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Re: SafeHash
« Reply #80 on: November 28, 2014, 02:02:51 pm »

are you going to openly ignore the fact that you are having
the same ideas
the same website
the same "brick & mortar" business that closed down in the same manner

with usagi?

People need to be aware of your past.
usagi scam accusation thread, all info in one place.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.0

usagi selling japanese flashcards, eternal mining bonds,  investment advice and subsription on kongzi.ca
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/kongzi-ca-going-live-investment-presales-opportunities.73238/

Talk to us about those links instead. They are interesting to both investors AND potential investors, dont you agree?

For god's sake, stfu. The post you link to is quoted as saying:

So how do you know I'm for real? Well first, I have a very good OTC rating (http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=usagi). Second, please visit the link above; http://kongzi.ca/wtj -- There are pictures of the book. Finally, I've done more than one complete and fully functional website before, including hotwallet.ca. So you know for a fact I can complete what I start.

I've already told you I bought his website and I have domain transfer records to prove it. He isn't even a scammer (again, read the post you quoted yourself) so I have absolutely no idea what your agenda is here anymore. You need to be banned.

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Re: SafeHash
« Reply #81 on: November 28, 2014, 02:08:34 pm »

my links point to TWO THREADS, not mere posts.

In the first thread there are 33 pages, of not only members BUT FORUM STAFF aswell, sharing evidence of your wrongdoing.

The second is showing that you and usagi have the same business idea.

Even if you bought the site(which you did not, but i'll play) WHY ON EARTH did you come up with the same JAPANESE FLASHCARDS?
WHY KEEPING THE OLD BUSINESS NAME ASSOCIATED WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNER?

not to mention the rest of the projects...
to freaking convenient, if you ask me, but i am an "incredulous sockpuppet troll".

Care to explain this coincinence?
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Re: SafeHash
« Reply #82 on: November 28, 2014, 02:31:21 pm »

In the first thread there are 33 pages, of not only members BUT FORUM STAFF aswell, sharing evidence of your wrongdoing.

The second is showing that you and usagi have the same business idea.

Even if you bought the site(which you did not, but i'll play) WHY ON EARTH did you come up with the same JAPANESE FLASHCARDS?

No, you're mis-stating things. Usagi's website was designed to teach people Japanese in a web browser. I am making "real" flashcards to teach people English. The fact that flashcards are being used by different people to teach different languages is not a coincidence which suggests I am usagi.

You also have gotten things terribly wrong with KPS and NxtGlaive. KPS isn't closing, it's being taken private. This was mentioned a few times. Don't know how you could have gotten this so wrong.

NxtGlaive has nothing to do with SafeHash other than we are going to be taking money from them and paying them a small amount over time. if they disappear it's in our favor since that means we don't have to pay them back. You are conflating things in order to try and make it look like I have the same "MO" as usagi, when I do not.

It also appears you have been lying to try and convince people. I went to bitcointalk scam accusations thread and typed in usagi. I found this post among others.

Apparently usagi has been investigated by both AugustoCroppo and BCB and both of them came to the conclusion that he wasn't a scammer.

What are you even doing here bro? A comedy routine?

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Re: SafeHash
« Reply #83 on: November 28, 2014, 05:12:51 pm »

Okaynow please remove the adverts from your post if you want to be taken seriously.
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Re: SafeHash
« Reply #84 on: November 29, 2014, 02:25:14 pm »

Why SafeHash?

Reason #2387: increasing difficulty and the inevitable selloff

LTC difficulty went up big time this week. :/

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Friday 21.11
0.00135356 LTC/day
Network difficulty 46816.02093


Thursday 27.11
0.00120365 LTC/day
Network difficulty 52646.50355

That's 12% decrease in profitability in one week. Makes me appreciate the re-investing model alot more.  :)

Ps. Payments are late this week, due to the LTCgear black friday sales, i think.

Over time, the difficulty will increase until mining profitability falls in line with the market average. In cases like this, mining tends to overshoot and become less profitable for a while until some new technology or coin is put forth and the blood starts flowing again. What happens in a situation like this? We can look at ASICMINER as an example. IPO at 0.1, rose to 3BTC, before crashing back down. A fund which reinvests will protect you from this in the short term, but not in the medium to long term as 50% extra profits mean little when profits fall by 98%.

The market will react by selling off mining shares, creating a supply glut (investopedia: oversupply). This will suddenly push the price of mining shares down. Your shares which you paid 50 for, will be worth 5 or less. Your shares which you paid 1 for will be worth pennies on the dollar as every single investor tries to sell first just so they can get something back.

Enter SafeHash.

When mining goes to zero -- and it will, eventually -- you will not lose your investment. We protect you by keeping 1 NXT in NXT and/or non-mining assets for every 1 NXT we sell and invest on your behalf into mining. When you think about it, 10% a week is crazy unsustainable -- but so is 5%. The question is, if you invest into mining, where is the guarantee you can take your money out? What will happen if people suddenly try to sell out 3 million shares of HRLTCGEAR? It will go to 0.01.

Don't get caught on the wrong side of the trade when the market shifts against you. Invest in SafeHash today, and be the smart money.

Run an investment fund? PM me for bulk order rates of 10% off or more!
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Re: SafeHash
« Reply #85 on: November 29, 2014, 02:32:49 pm »

Why SafeHash?

Reason #2387: increasing difficulty and the inevitable selloff

LTC difficulty went up big time this week. :/

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Friday 21.11
0.00135356 LTC/day
Network difficulty 46816.02093


Thursday 27.11
0.00120365 LTC/day
Network difficulty 52646.50355

That's 12% decrease in profitability in one week. Makes me appreciate the re-investing model alot more.  :)

Ps. Payments are late this week, due to the LTCgear black friday sales, i think.

Over time, the difficulty will increase until mining profitability falls in line with the market average. In cases like this, mining tends to overshoot and become less profitable for a while until some new technology or coin is put forth and the blood starts flowing again. What happens in a situation like this? We can look at ASICMINER as an example. IPO at 0.1, rose to 3BTC, before crashing back down. A fund which reinvests will protect you from this in the short term, but not in the medium to long term as 50% extra profits mean little when profits fall by 98%.

The market will react by selling off mining shares, creating a supply glut (investopedia: oversupply). This will suddenly push the price of mining shares down. Your shares which you paid 50 for, will be worth 5 or less. Your shares which you paid 1 for will be worth pennies on the dollar as every single investor tries to sell first just so they can get something back.

Enter SafeHash.

When mining goes to zero -- and it will, eventually -- you will not lose your investment. We protect you by keeping 1 NXT in NXT and/or non-mining assets for every 1 NXT we sell and invest on your behalf into mining. When you think about it, 10% a week is crazy unsustainable -- but so is 5%. The question is, if you invest into mining, where is the guarantee you can take your money out? What will happen if people suddenly try to sell out 3 million shares of HRLTCGEAR? It will go to 0.01.

Don't get caught on the wrong side of the trade when the market shifts against you. Invest in SafeHash today, and be the smart money.

Run an investment fund? PM me for bulk order rates of 10% off or more!

Quoting for science.

edit: adding the OP, it might disappear
-=+ SafeHash +=-

Welcome to SafeHash, a 100% owned and operated subsidiary of KNS.

With SafeHash, you cannot lose your initial investment. It's guaranteed.

Our mission statement is, "To Guarantee the Preservation of Investment Capital while providing a Competitive Return".



How we do this is not a trade secret at all. It's guts. Pure guts. Here's the plan:

1. Operations.
Goal: In the event of a collapse in the mining sector (for whatever reason) all investors will be able to get out at or above the IPO price of 1 NXT per share.
Plan: SafeHash will retain a minimum of 2 NXT in assets for every 1 NXT sold:
        a) We will initially back the company with NXT and dividend paying non-mining assets.
        b) SafeHash will sell shares into the bid at 1 NXT so long as it will always end up holding at least 2 NXT per 1 NXT sold.
        c) We will account for shares and backing via weekly announcements posted to nxtforum.org.
Conclusion: There will always be sufficient NXT to support a complete buyback at 1 NXT/share.



2. Profit from Operations.
Goal: Increase profits for shareholders and backers while continuing to mitigate risk.
Plan: 25% of profits from operations go to the backers (KNS and whomever), 50% will be paid as dividend, and 25% will back the sale of new shares into the future.
        a) The backers (KNS) profit on their investment once sales reach 4x our seed capital.
        b) Investors profit by retaining 50% of mining dividends, which is huge considering their capital is guaranteed.
Conclusion: Risk is mitigated by not selling more shares than we have capital to back.



3. Exit Strategy. Because all good things must eventually come to an end.
Goal: Everybody Wins.
Plan: Once the IPO has completed, we will change the 25% used to "back new shares" to repurchase shares of the company *at any price* they are listed.
        a) We will act to raise the bid if there are no asks.
        b) If there are no bids we will bid 1 NXT/share.
        c) Shares repurchased in this way WILL BE BURNED (sent to genesis block).
        c) Sunset Clause: Should we have bids outstanding for 100% of the remaining shares at 100 NXT or higher we will leave the bids standing, close the company and walk away.
Conclusion: Fun times.

edit2: crossposting from the KPS thread, because you know, science:

Okaynow if you are serious about your accusations then please remove the adverts from your signature. You look like a troll.

whatnxt, if you can;t follow the point i am making because my sig distracts you and i "look like a troll", you should not take me seriously.
But, you can ask prinshop to pass you on a "SHORT ACCOUNT ID's, VANITY ID's (by KPS)"
he has promised that he "does not retain records of any kind regarding sold accounts."
source: https://nxtforum.org/aliases/for-sale-short-account-id%27s-vanity-id%27s-%28by-kps%29/
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to the rest, you have not been waiting in vain. The NXTGlaive Affair has more to show.

Apparently usagi has been investigated by AugustoCroppo and came to the conclusion that he wasn't a scammer.

erhh, no. Augusto Croppo says otherwise, along with the rest of the users and mods there:
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You should disclose to potential investors that you are not fully skilled for Japanese language teaching.
You have less than two years of Japanese language writing/speaking:
http://renli.wordpress.com/2011/06/
source: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/kongzi-ca-going-live-investment-presales-opportunities.73238/page-3#post-1259725
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Qualification is a piece of paper, skill is an empirical experience. You cannot obtain a skill without a long period of practice.
Moreover, feel free to prove you are qualified. You did not presented any evidence to back up your claim.
source: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/kongzi-ca-going-live-investment-presales-opportunities.73238/page-3#post-1260223
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No, usagi wasn't selling japanese flashcards, read the post.
source: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=4916.msg135371#msg135371

usagi among others was selling a "powerfull flashcard language learning program". So yes, technically he used code and printshop says he uses paper, for the same purpose, "japanese language learning"
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Kongzi is a powerful flashcard language learning program that works with many different languages. It is specially designed to meet the needs of Chinese, Japanese, Korean and English language learners
source: https://renli.wordpress.com/kongzi/
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NXTGlaive(printshop) insured Safehash(an "investment" company investing in the mining sector run by printshop) against mining profits going down using as collateral the profits of KPS(printshop)
source: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=6474.msg133770#msg133770

CPA(usagi) insured BMF(a bitcoin mining fund run by usagi) against BMF losing NAV. (NAV tanked, BMF, CPA holders burned, usagi profit!)
source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115284.msg1242916#msg1242916
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28 September 2012
Oliver Richman, aka Serena, Usagi & al had been operating a number of various assets (NYAN.A, .B, .C purporting to be some sort of bonds ; CPA purporting to be some sort of insurer ; BMF purporting to be some sort of mining thing). Appaling accounting practices, cross-deals and inter-asset gifts in disregard of shareholder's rights, solidly reinforced by completely insane business moves (buying things known to be worthless for singificant premiums etc) pretty much ensured a complete loss for investors.

The holder proceeded to have a complete mental meltdown in the forum (posts since deleted), declared famously that milk is a scammer, possibly made some efforts to repay his investors out of selling his guitar and in any event was conveniently rescued by the collapse of GLBSE and ensuing drama the next week.

Total loss : 1k BTC (estimated).

source: http://trilema.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/
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but we have been using our own in-house flashcard program. It's written in Java and it's called Kongzi.
https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/%28ann%29-kongzi-print-shop/msg108332/#msg108332

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Kongzi Beta-7 has been in classroom-use testing for about 6 months now and it seems pretty solid
https://renli.wordpress.com/2012/03/19/kongzi-pre-beta-8-progreess-report/
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I am mainly concerned with producing for the schools I already produce for, and expanding from there into the production of our own educational materials.
source: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=4740.msg98114#msg98114

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We also publish and sell our own language textbooks
source: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/kongzi-ca-going-live-investment-presales-opportunities.73238/
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The school I work for in the evenings
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=4740.msg97224#msg97224

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I've been a professional in-the-classroom language teacher for 7 years now.
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/kongzi-ca-going-live-investment-presales-opportunities.73238/page-3#post-1260423
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I am making "real" flashcards
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=6474.msg135370#msg135370

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We no longer create flashcards directly from dictionary entries on the fly. Instead we allow users to create and edit their own personal flashcards with an innovative drag 'n drop flashcard creator.
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/kongzi-ca-going-live-investment-presales-opportunities.73238/page-6#post-1670046
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There's no modern Japanese textbook in English which is targeted for the modern N5 except the one we have.
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=4740.msg97224#msg97224

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This will be one of the only JLPT N5 textbooks in English, in the world.
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/kongzi-ca-going-live-investment-presales-opportunities.73238/page-3#post-1260437
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I am learning Japanese and Chinese myself
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=4740.msg98114#msg98114

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I finally decided to start learning Japanese. I've been learning Chinese for 20 years
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/kongzi-ca-going-live-investment-presales-opportunities.73238/page-3#post-1259725
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awesome snippet taken from irc, usagi/prinshop trying to hire trolls

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110350.msg1222147#msg1222147
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reading material aka food for thought

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/kongzi-ca-going-live-investment-presales-opportunities.73238/

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/critique-of-the-various-businesses-run-by-usagi.68808/#post-1167603

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/usagi-falsifying-navs-manipulating-share-prices-and-misleading-investors.68085/#post-1154884

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/glbse-bitcoin-mining-fund-see-post-2-for-faq.52782/
(heavily redacted by the OP, usagi himself)

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.martial-arts/ly5cmb5i8bc/aBX3EztwQ4YJ

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/sign-up-to-iknow-jp-for-me-60-for-7-bitcoins.71567/#post-1225056

https://renli.wordpress.com/kongzi/
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What was that again, printshop? Oh right, coincidences.

And an appeal to the mods: You should rethink the policy of giving mod rights to asset issuers.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2014, 02:50:53 pm by okaynow »
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Re: SafeHash
« Reply #86 on: November 30, 2014, 02:52:20 am »

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636.00000000   SAAS (trading profit)
326.36000000   HRNXTPool Mining and Dividends
157.09198676   ltc2nXt
4,858.44748858   ltc2nXt2
11,114.81839769   HRLTCGEAR Dividend Account
286.78000000   iHash
         
Total      17,379.49787303   
         
To Be Paid:      8,689.74893652   
To Be Kept:      8,689.74893652   
         
(Payable) Issued Shares      139,127   
Div/Share      0.062459112   


Payout per share will therefore be 6.25% this week, and here are some other notes on changes we are making to how we manage the fund.

  • We will be selling out all our HRLTCPool as it's not a pure miner, but suffers the risk that comes from exposure to HRLTCGEAR.
  • We have also sold out our SAAS at a profit this week, So I have decided to put the profit from the trade as dividends.
  • As a result of not having any SAAS or HRLTCPool, we now pay our dividends on Sunday (and not Monday). SUPRISE!
  • Dividends will be going out in about 2 hrs. Company bids and asks have been temporarily pulled -- do not panic.
  • We are in discussions with mining share issuers on a new and special mining asset tailormade for SafeHash.
  • Changes to backing: I've decided to just screw it and send 50,000 shares back to SafeHash (Transaction ID 2460635555429380310). Too much complex accounting otherwise.
  • Next week's dividends are projected to be the same or higher as we continue to increase our leverage to mining while maintaining a strong backing.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2014, 03:26:21 am by printshop »
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Re: SafeHash
« Reply #87 on: November 30, 2014, 03:49:43 am »

Code: [Select]
TX ID Paid Account
8154629917825210000 1 New DORCS
4485272330214220000 2 NXT-MAX4-6ZDE-3QVX-CDMY9
140037334012926000 1 blackyblack
18257380682364700000 1 NXT-D47S-W3YE-VT3G-5KV96
18133654070868200000 1 sv3n
8899243072796100000 12 NXT-A3CC-YG8Z-HNFP-23QMS
7741745477546940000 16 moNom
7299694746506280000 93.75 NXT-ZZ4W-YB6N-2TPJ-7EUY9
6699187391540900000 62.5 NXT-NH53-QEG6-NG4U-6D9DZ
5512032548721700000 12.5 clubnxt
3782822803185740000 51.25 NXT-JGKG-5VF4-CCZS-HTSY3
1987591131505510000 46.88 NXT-8T88-RJHB-QE2X-H4TXW
1985552933375830000 62.5 NXT-XLR8-66PW-253Z-3T5M8
420666408938336000 142.25 NXT-J2UZ-G2D2-V6X9-G2JMD
18372337315777100000 12 NXT-7G7H-BE28-B967-FTBWW
16073900238325600000 62.5 nerv76
15632425976914700000 125 NXT-7PJE-3NSH-C7W5-GU4FT
15602918638930400000 62.5 yidao
14817106256166300000 125 Klaus Alexander Seistrup
14723383577264600000 6 NXT-4ATT-SD4C-VGD4-BYRBY
10655995438923100000 12 NXT-47L4-3ZFH-VP8P-2EA84
3177943560354450000 182.63 NXT-P44H-3ZA6-TQBD-FESF3
1364104307559690000 218.75 2B<3d
10567630159539800000 250 Peggy Chan
2750705441621190000 250 NXT-8D65-AVB7-X8SM-2JTX4
11697233692775000 312.5 NXT-3KVZ-NF4B-36V2-7B9YA
14204058407272300000 365.63 Satoshi Personal
5064447964455050000 625 NXT-234E-3WCH-RN8G-DPHCT
1289168279589400000 634.94 STSH
17588100733587100000 487.5 NXT-CSMZ-VJV5-YVVP-5FZQU
16543522450202500000 433.06 NXT-UAPC-3T43-FFT6-HW5BZ
6659474944101340000 998.5 Zhuan_Shu
6552167852192580000 937.5 NXT-SU7K-QRWR-KF84-32ELE
16856205927139900000 2117.56 NXT-TU23-XMYB-722V-5LWVC

Done! See you next week. Oh, and please report any posts which are off-topic for this thread, thanks.

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Re: SafeHash
« Reply #88 on: November 30, 2014, 12:41:50 pm »

I have personally bought out the backing for SafeHash. 50,000 of my personal shares will not receive dividends and the money represented by those shares will instead be used to back SafeHash. Meaning, if SafeHash collapes, those shares will be returned to the company without being repurchased. I can get out of this restriction by giving SafeHash 50,000 NXT.

  • Changes to backing: I've decided to just screw it and send 50,000 shares back to SafeHash (Transaction ID 2460635555429380310). Too much complex accounting otherwise.

You just changed your own rules within 4 days of announcing them. Again.

You had your own "get-out-clause", stating that you(safehash) would have to be paid 50.000NXT(from yourself, printshop) to get out of your backing.

So it is safe for us to assume that you are a person that holds up to his word.

I am sure you are compiling a huge essay explaining this awesome investment sttrategy, that will render us speechless.

Have you bought those shares back, or did you just xfered them?
Will you be receiving divs for those shares?

You stated that if safehash collapses, those 50.000 shares would be a back-up. How is that plan affected now?
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Re: SafeHash
« Reply #89 on: November 30, 2014, 02:32:46 pm »

I have personally bought out the backing for SafeHash.
  • Changes to backing: I've decided to just screw it and send 50,000 shares back to SafeHash (Transaction ID 2460635555429380310). Too much complex accounting otherwise.

You just changed your own rules within 4 days of announcing them. Again.

No, I didn't change my plan. I executed my plan.

Think.

It's easier to just send the shares back. Holding them in my account was more difficult because I had to account for them separately. One of my management guidelines is never to have to account for shares specially. As soon as you start accounting for "special shares" things go awry.

Do you really not understand this? It's really easy to understand.

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Re: SafeHash
« Reply #90 on: November 30, 2014, 03:52:12 pm »

I have personally bought out the backing for SafeHash. 50,000 of my personal shares will not receive dividends and the money represented by those shares will instead be used to back SafeHash. Meaning, if SafeHash collapes, those shares will be returned to the company without being repurchased. I can get out of this restriction by giving SafeHash 50,000 NXT.
  • Changes to backing: I've decided to just screw it and send 50,000 shares back to SafeHash (Transaction ID 2460635555429380310). Too much complex accounting otherwise.

You just changed your own rules within 4 days of announcing them. Again.

No, I didn't change my plan. I executed my plan.

Think.

It's easier to just send the shares back. Holding them in my account was more difficult because I had to account for them separately. One of my management guidelines is never to have to account for shares specially. As soon as you start accounting for "special shares" things go awry.

Do you really not understand this? It's really easy to understand.

i understand more than you might hope, your responses are a testimony to this.
I never said you changed your plan, i am sure your plan remains the same from the start.

I am pointing out that you changed the rules, the goal posts if you please, again.
Changing the rules as you go, seems to be the norm with you.

On November 26th, you announced that you are buying 50.000 shares of safehash, and they are to be used as a backup.
According to your announced plan, that has not changed as you said, those shares were the backup, against the collapse of safehash.
According to your announced plan, on November 26th, you would get out of that spot by giving safehash 50.000 NXT.

On November 30th, you said "screw it". Still sticking with your original masterplan, as you say, you sent those shares back to yourself, because "management is a pain" and you have "guidelines".

Since the Nov26th Announcement is part of your plan, and the Nov30th announcement is also part of the same plan,
and the latter announcement is completely cancelling out the former, more clarification is needed.

i am asking these questions, try to answer them directly:

Question number one:
When you announced on the 26th that you bought the shares, was your plan to return them to yourself on the 30th already in effect?

Question nuber two:
Have you bought those shares back, or did you just xfered them?

uestion number three:
Will you be receiving divs for those shares?

Question number four:
You stated that if safehash collapses, those 50.000 shares would be a back-up. How is that plan affected now?

I know you hate it when people repeat questions, but i dont see anything remotely relevant to an answer in your previous post.

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« Reply #91 on: November 30, 2014, 04:02:58 pm »

I never said you changed your plan

I didn't say you said I changed my plan.

i am asking these questions, try to answer them directly:

First tell us who you are and what your interest is in SafeHash. Are you a shareholder? An investigator? Is someone paying you to write these posts? Why are you ignoring hard evidence that your claims against me are false? Would you agree to arbitration? Thanks for your time.
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« Reply #92 on: November 30, 2014, 04:13:50 pm »

wow, another set of legit, valid and relevant questions, ignored and deflected. You should report me too.

Answering relevant on-topic questions regarding peoples' funds with irrelevant distractions, one more time XD

You are once again on the record ignoring valid questions, changing the subject, trying actively to shift attention away from your practices/
Thank you for validating my posts.

Would you agree on a request to the moderators, from the both of us, to release a copy of the few pm we have between us?
I would love to see those messages, GPG signed and verified by an administrator.

For now, i'll just leave those here, for scientific purposes.
i am asking these questions, try to answer them directly:

Question number one:
When you announced on the 26th that you bought the shares, was your plan to return them to yourself on the 30th already in effect?

Question nuber two:
Have you bought those shares back, or did you just xfered them?

uestion number three:
Will you be receiving divs for those shares?

Question number four:
You stated that if safehash collapses, those 50.000 shares would be a back-up. How is that plan affected now?

I know you hate it when people repeat questions, but i dont see anything remotely relevant to an answer in your previous post.


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« Reply #93 on: November 30, 2014, 04:44:21 pm »

wow, another set of legit, valid and relevant questions, ignored and deflected. You should report me too.

Why would I report your post? There's nothing in the post you just made which is reportable. You're just asking questions. I can respect that.

Answering relevant on-topic questions regarding peoples' funds with irrelevant distractions, one more time XD

Please tell us how your questions are relevant and on-topic. What is your interest in SafeHash? Are you an investor or potential investor?

Would you agree on a request to the moderators, from the both of us, to release a copy of the few pm we have between us?

Would you agree to arbitration by the moderators on the issues you have accused me of? Specifically that I am running a ponzi, and/or that I am a scammer?

You seem to think you are playing some sort of game with me, but you cannot win because I am not playing your game. You are playing my game, and you will tell us who you are and what your interest is in SafeHash, or you will be ignored (I'm guessing, by everyone).

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« Reply #94 on: November 30, 2014, 04:49:12 pm »

Aaaaand one more time, printshop tries to avoid being questioned on cancelling his own statements.

You are too funny to be taken seriously. I will just repeat the questions you are trying to avoid.
The ones you asked me are already answered, all you have to do is read.

For now, i'll just leave those here, for scientific purposes.
i am asking these questions, try to answer them directly:

Question number one:
When you announced on the 26th that you bought the shares, was your plan to return them to yourself on the 30th already in effect?

Question nuber two:
Have you bought those shares back, or did you just xfered them?

uestion number three:
Will you be receiving divs for those shares?

Question number four:
You stated that if safehash collapses, those 50.000 shares would be a back-up. How is that plan affected now?

I know you hate it when people repeat questions, but i dont see anything remotely relevant to an answer in your previous post.

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« Reply #95 on: November 30, 2014, 05:11:11 pm »

Aaaaand one more time, printshop tries to avoid being questioned on cancelling his own statements.

You are too funny to be taken seriously. I will just repeat the questions you are trying to avoid.
The ones you asked me are already answered, all you have to do is read.

"I've bought the safehash back up my self,  hurr durr, you are in a safe boat, hurry up and buy my ponzi" is part of your routine.
Scammers like you are here only to milk this cow.
You are changing assets so soon only to keep the ponzi alive.

I hereby demand that you apologize for and retract your statements, specifically that I am running a ponzi or that I am a scammer. You may issue your statement in response to this demand via a reply to this post, via e-mail to printshop@kongzi.ca, or to Alexandros D. Tsagkalidis, a Criminal Law, Cyber Crime and Defamation lawyer in Athens, Greece. His phone number is +30-210-729-2010. Please understand that I will be unable to contact you again other than through Mr. Tsagkalidis and will no longer be able to respond to your posts on this forum.

The Greek Penal Code makes libel a criminal offense. Insult is punishable by imprisonment not exceeding one year and/or with a pecuniary penalty (from GDR 50,000 to GDR 5 million, as defined in Art. 57 of the Penal Code, PC) (PC, Art. 361, Paragraph 1). Unprovoked insult is punishable by imprisonment of at least three months (PC, Art. 361A, Paragraph 1).

Defamation is punishable by imprisonment not exceeding two months and/or with a pecuniary penalty. Aggravated defamation is punishable by imprisonment of at least three months (PC, Art. 363), to which a pecuniary penalty can be added. The offender can also be punished with deprivation of his/her civil rights. Defamation of a corporation is punishable by imprisonment up to one year or with a pecuniary penalty (PC, Art. 364, Paragraph 1), while aggravated defamation of a corporation is necessarily punished by imprisonment (PC, Art. 364, Paragraph 2).

The cases are always initiated following the private complaint of an injured person (PC, Art. 68, Paragraph 1).
The law provides for more severe sentences in cases of libel and defamation of public officials than of ordinary citizens. Libel and defamation of the President of the Republic and to the Parliament are punishable by imprisonment of not less than three months (PC, Art. 157, Paragraph 3; PC, Art. 168, Paragraph 2). Insult to board councils of the county, municipal or community councils is punishable by imprisonment for up to two years (PC, Art. 157, Paragraph 3). Attacks against the honour of a Head of a foreign state are punishable by imprisonment (PC, Art. 153, Paragraph 1b).

Journalists can invoke good faith and public interest in their defense against charges of insult or defamation. According to the Penal Code, if defamation is based on true information that affects the public interest, defamation is not punished (PC, Art. 366, Paragraph 1), although punishment for insult is not excluded, if the intent to insult has been proven beyond reasonable doubt (PC, Art. 366, Paragraph 3).

Libel and defamation can also be dealt with in the Civil Code. Under Article 920 (“Defamatory rumors”), one who intentionally disseminates lies that can hurt someone else is liable to fines. In addition, Article 57 (“Right to personality”) provides that one whose personality is offended has the right to ask for the offense to be withdrawn, as well as for the promise that this would not be repeated in the future. Under Article 59 (“Satisfaction for moral abuse”), the court, upon request of the plaintiff, can also impose compensation or order the publication of the revocation of the offense. The obligation to compensate is also provided under Article 919 (“Offence to morals”) and Article 932 (“Satisfaction for moral abuse” for an unjustified act).
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« Reply #96 on: November 30, 2014, 07:52:05 pm »

Hello!

Thank you for dividends. I have a question: What max ratio Div/Share do you expect in few weeks? I know that you arent fortuneteller but anway. :)
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« Reply #97 on: November 30, 2014, 08:32:35 pm »

Hello!

Thank you for dividends. I have a question: What max ratio Div/Share do you expect in few weeks? I know that you arent fortuneteller but anway. :)

Hello madawc, you are welcome :) I absolutely love to send out dividends. It's my favorite time of the whole week! I just know that people will be very happy to get them.

Re: max div/share ratio. The short answer is that we aim to provide "direct rates" (i.e. as if you had invested directly into HRLTCGear) by the end of the year, and after that we will only increase the rate to remain competitive with other funds.

Right now our stats are essentially 200,000 mining shares and 160,000 shares sold, providing an extra 25%. Our goal is to increase this "extra 25%" until it is an "extra 100%" which means investing in SafeHash will return the same or greater profits than investing into any other mining asset (specifically the highest paying assets).

If you want to know how this will tend to change over time, we make about 10% and retain about 25% of that. So on 200,000 in mining we add about 5,000 per week to our leverage right now. At this rate it will take us 3 months to get to the point where we pay more than direct investment into mining.

But, there is a silver bullet here. The NxtGlaive loan. Once the money comes in over the next few weeks we will be able to move to 200% leverage (i.e. effective 100% payouts) before the end of December. So that is basically how I am estimating we will get there by the end of the year.
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« Reply #98 on: November 30, 2014, 10:46:01 pm »

I hereby demand that you apologize for and retract your statements, specifically that I am running a ponzi or that I am a scammer. You may issue your statement in response to this demand via a reply to this post, via e-mail to printshop@kongzi.ca, or to Alexandros D. Tsagkalidis, a Criminal Law, Cyber Crime and Defamation lawyer in Athens, Greece. His phone number is +30-210-729-2010. Please understand that I will be unable to contact you again other than through Mr. Tsagkalidis and will no longer be able to respond to your posts on this forum.

The Greek Penal Code makes libel a criminal offense. Insult is punishable by imprisonment not exceeding one year and/or with a pecuniary penalty (from GDR 50,000 to GDR 5 million, as defined in Art. 57 of the Penal Code, PC) (PC, Art. 361, Paragraph 1). Unprovoked insult is punishable by imprisonment of at least three months (PC, Art. 361A, Paragraph 1).

Defamation is punishable by imprisonment not exceeding two months and/or with a pecuniary penalty. Aggravated defamation is punishable by imprisonment of at least three months (PC, Art. 363), to which a pecuniary penalty can be added. The offender can also be punished with deprivation of his/her civil rights. Defamation of a corporation is punishable by imprisonment up to one year or with a pecuniary penalty (PC, Art. 364, Paragraph 1), while aggravated defamation of a corporation is necessarily punished by imprisonment (PC, Art. 364, Paragraph 2).

The cases are always initiated following the private complaint of an injured person (PC, Art. 68, Paragraph 1).
The law provides for more severe sentences in cases of libel and defamation of public officials than of ordinary citizens. Libel and defamation of the President of the Republic and to the Parliament are punishable by imprisonment of not less than three months (PC, Art. 157, Paragraph 3; PC, Art. 168, Paragraph 2). Insult to board councils of the county, municipal or community councils is punishable by imprisonment for up to two years (PC, Art. 157, Paragraph 3). Attacks against the honour of a Head of a foreign state are punishable by imprisonment (PC, Art. 153, Paragraph 1b).

Journalists can invoke good faith and public interest in their defense against charges of insult or defamation. According to the Penal Code, if defamation is based on true information that affects the public interest, defamation is not punished (PC, Art. 366, Paragraph 1), although punishment for insult is not excluded, if the intent to insult has been proven beyond reasonable doubt (PC, Art. 366, Paragraph 3).

Libel and defamation can also be dealt with in the Civil Code. Under Article 920 (“Defamatory rumors”), one who intentionally disseminates lies that can hurt someone else is liable to fines. In addition, Article 57 (“Right to personality”) provides that one whose personality is offended has the right to ask for the offense to be withdrawn, as well as for the promise that this would not be repeated in the future. Under Article 59 (“Satisfaction for moral abuse”), the court, upon request of the plaintiff, can also impose compensation or order the publication of the revocation of the offense. The obligation to compensate is also provided under Article 919 (“Offence to morals”) and Article 932 (“Satisfaction for moral abuse” for an unjustified act).


Nice, legal threats, these questions must have really pushed a nerve, i guess.
Another quote for science.

I advise everyone to read up all the posts so far, aswell as the ones in the other threads.
 
Post the public case protocol number your lawyer gave you when he filed your request,
i supposed he explained to you how this will work.

Or just show everyone that you are full of hot air.
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« Reply #99 on: December 01, 2014, 12:14:06 am »

The thought that printshop has retained legal counsel and is squandering away hundreds of dollars for every hour of "legal advice" is horrifying to me.  I think anyone that has read up on the Ryan Kennedy/Alex Green debacle has been left with a bad taste in their mouths for people who cry lawyer.

Although I agree with okaynow that this is likely just hot air.  If not, it definitely is a good mis-use of funds.
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