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So this is my proposal for how to handle application and approval. This is of course a work in progress and open to debate.

Application procedure:
I think I'm just going to allow this section to develop based on experience.

Approval/denial procedure:
  • Initiatives which receive an explicit veto from a TechDev committee member are considered to have failed
  • Initiatives which fail to receive a TechDev signatory with in 3 weeks of posting are considered to have failed
  • Initiatives which achieve a signature from all members of the committee are considered to have succeeded
  • Initiatives which achieve one or more signatures, no vetoes, but less than explicit consensus from all members will default to succeeded exactly 3 weeks after the time of the first signature
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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Proceedure (subject to change)
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2014, 03:46:33 pm »

Seems legit

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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Proceedure (subject to change)
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2014, 03:48:02 pm »

yay! thanks so much emoneyru! :) i could hug you right now.
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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Proceedure (subject to change)
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2014, 04:09:00 pm »

procedure....one 'e' in the middle.

oops typo. thanks for the catch.
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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Procedure (subject to change)
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2014, 04:11:54 pm »

Initiatives which receive an explicit veto from a TechDev committee member are considered to have failed


Am I right in assuming that this means one person can shoot down any plan?
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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Procedure (subject to change)
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2014, 04:15:38 pm »


I have to admit that I'd have a very severe bellyache with a 5/5 vote.

That has potential to stall things- we have seen this before, and I think this is dangerous.

My preference is 4/5

 

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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Procedure (subject to change)
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2014, 04:17:16 pm »

Initiatives which receive an explicit veto from a TechDev committee member are considered to have failed


Am I right in assuming that this means one person can shoot down any plan?

yes that is right but there are only 5 of us. there should be plenty of initiatives that 5 people can agree on. if we find out that this is not the case and too many initiatives are getting blocked than we will attempt to get consensus on the fact that the consensus requirement should be changed. If THAT gets blocked and we get completely stalled and nothing is getting funded than pouncer will have to decide how to handle that situation.
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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Procedure (subject to change)
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2014, 04:19:41 pm »

Initiatives which receive an explicit veto from a TechDev committee member are considered to have failed


Am I right in assuming that this means one person can shoot down any plan?

yes that is right but there are only 5 of us. there should be plenty of initiatives that 5 people can agree on. if we find out that this is not the case and too many initiatives are getting blocked than we will attempt to get consensus on the fact that the consensus requirement should be changed. If THAT gets blocked and we get completely stalled and nothing is getting funded than pouncer will have to decide how to handle that situation.

Just getting it out in the open  ;D

This was a major topic for us, too, I will freely admit.
I'll back out now. ;)
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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Procedure (subject to change)
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2014, 04:24:37 pm »


I have to admit that I'd have a very severe bellyache with a 5/5 vote.

That has potential to stall things- we have seen this before, and I think this is dangerous.

My preference is 4/5

Getting 5/5 on all issues will take a hell of a lot of discussion/persuasion/argument.
4/5 is much more practical, and will allow u to actually make some decisions within a reasonable timeframe. 
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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Procedure (subject to change)
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2014, 04:26:35 pm »


I have to admit that I'd have a very severe bellyache with a 5/5 vote.

That has potential to stall things- we have seen this before, and I think this is dangerous.

My preference is 4/5

Getting 5/5 on all issues will take a hell of a lot of discussion/persuasion/argument.

yep thats the idea :D
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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Procedure (subject to change)
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2014, 04:26:52 pm »


I have to admit that I'd have a very severe bellyache with a 5/5 vote.

That has potential to stall things- we have seen this before, and I think this is dangerous.

My preference is 4/5

Getting 5/5 on all issues will take a hell of a lot of discussion/persuasion/argument.
4/5 is much more practical, and will allow u to actually make some decisions within a reasonable timeframe.

We have a mix: 3/5 for normal cases and 4/5 for proposals by Committee members
No veto, as that, as the Roman plebeian tribunes taught us, can stall everything. :)
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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Procedure (subject to change)
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2014, 04:32:11 pm »


We have a mix: 3/5 for normal cases and 4/5 for proposals by Committee members
No veto, as that, as the Roman plebeian tribunes taught us, can stall everything. :)


You mean these guys?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribune#Plebeian_tribune

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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Procedure (subject to change)
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2014, 06:30:03 pm »

i think its super fun and interesting how we are developing our own unique body of commonlaw
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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Procedure (subject to change)
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2014, 06:56:19 pm »


We have a mix: 3/5 for normal cases and 4/5 for proposals by Committee members
No veto, as that, as the Roman plebeian tribunes taught us, can stall everything. :)

I like this idea. Definitely not go for 5/5, this will definitely stall things.

3/5 for normal ideas and 4/5 for proposals from committee members seems ideal imo.

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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2014, 08:41:10 pm »


We have a mix: 3/5 for normal cases and 4/5 for proposals by Committee members
No veto, as that, as the Roman plebeian tribunes taught us, can stall everything. :)

I like this idea. Definitely not go for 5/5, this will definitely stall things.

3/5 for normal ideas and 4/5 for proposals from committee members seems ideal imo.

well yea but thats the idea. we want some things to stall. we want the right things to stall. all im asking is that we try it. if its ridiculous and things are never getting funded than sure we will have to revisit it. what do you say?
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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Procedure
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2014, 06:26:17 am »


- this is a beta version and again a shameless copy&paste from the Marketing Committee. They have really spent quite some consideration on this!

I just moved this over here from where I originally started it so that we can compare.

We have not decided yet on the specifics of the procedure.

Since TD is a bunch of TechnoGeeks who are otherwise a bit slow on the uptake, we are trying to mimic MC and IC. [shshsh: it's almost like a 'class Factory'! don't mention it, or they'll sic their lawyers on us!]

MC and IC are run by some serious badass mover&shaker pros, and they have already spent serious time and thought on this topic. And come up with solutions for this.
 

I just want to post an update about the MC voting procedure, so all can know what to expect:

1) The MC receives a proposal, which needs to be in the format posted in this thread: https://nxtforum.org/marketing-committee/%28mc%29-nxt-marketing-fund-committee-applications/

2) If the proposal isn't clear or does not conform to the standards we need, it is sent back to the proposer to rework, after which he or she can resubmit it.

3) If accepted, the proposal will be under discussion for a maximum of a week. This is to both make the MC effective and also to do what it needs to do, which is to create momentum.

4) During this week we will ask questions, propose changes and see how the plan can be improved. We also discuss the proposal amongst ourselves.

5) After one week, we will vote on the proposal. The vote needs to get a simple majority (three out of five: 3/5) in the case where the proposal is made by someone not on the MC and a unanimous vote (5/5, so all other four MC members in favour) if the proposal is made by an MC member.

5b) We also allow MC members to enter proposals, as we feel that doing otherwise would effectively deprive the community of five talented people. We do not consider this to be in the spirit of the Commitees.

6) When the vote is passed, we will inform the proposers of the result of the vote. The votes will also be visible on our MC forum: http://www.damelon.nl/mcforum/index.php?board=6.0

7) Damelon, as spokesperson, will then direct neer.g to disburse the funds if needed or do this at the appropriate time.
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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Procedure (subject to change)
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2014, 06:27:55 am »


Just moved over here from where I originally started it - a bit of house keeping!
edit: work in progress...  ;D

On behalf of the Nxt Marketing Committee I want to make you all aware that we (allwelder, joefox, salsacz, jefdieseland Damelon), have met and are now open to receive your plans for Marketing proposals.

The Marketing Committee has at its disposal 2,654,774 Nxt, which are meant for projects to promote Nxt.

Everyone can propose plans to the Committee, but the plans need to meet certain criteria to be considered. Key factors in getting your proposal accepted is by making it clear, organised and accountable. This means you know what you are going to do, how you are going to do it, and that it must be possible to check what your results are.

After submitting your plan, we will consider it by the parameters posted below and discuss it for at most one week, in which time we can ask you to clarify points that are not clear or would need changing. Then we will vote. We have decided to use a simple majority vote of three out of five to be sufficient to approve a project.

To apply for funds, please make a separate topic in this subforum. Start the topic name with [MC] so we will recognise it. Then use the format below to outline the project. Feel free to add necessary documents by the use of links. The idea is to make it very easy to get an overview of your project.

FORMAT FOR PROPOSALS:
Proposals need the following details. We will not accept proposals without these:

1. Nxt account and userID/contact info for submitter

2. Submission date

3. A short description of the project with your goals very clearly specified(three sentences max.)
Make an outline so it's easy to see what your basic plan is
3b. Long description as needed
You can of course describe your plan in full, if needed!
 
5. Budget
Be as specific as possible. Try to use accepted costs as CPM/CPC and CPA. (Cost met mille (views/impressions), Cost per Click, Cost Per Acquisition).
Sloppy budgets will not be accepted for a vote.

6. Specify deadlines
No project can be without a specific time limit. We need to know when you plan to either implement it, or when a project is supposed to go live.
 
If you have any questions, please ask them in this thread, so we can answer them in public.
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Re: TechDev Statement of Policy and Procedure (subject to change)
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2014, 06:31:04 am »


We have a mix: 3/5 for normal cases and 4/5 for proposals by Committee members
No veto, as that, as the Roman plebeian tribunes taught us, can stall everything. :)

I like this idea. Definitely not go for 5/5, this will definitely stall things.

3/5 for normal ideas and 4/5 for proposals from committee members seems ideal imo.

well yea but thats the idea. we want some things to stall. we want the right things to stall. all im asking is that we try it. if its ridiculous and things are never getting funded than sure we will have to revisit it. what do you say?

Sorry -guys to demand a 100% vote for every decision is highly unrealistic. I would like to vote on this, but we need to get the TechDev committee running in the first place.

I am quite relieved that antanst wishes to replase JL - but now we have the next issue right away, because I understood from EmonRu that he has some real world issues and does not really have time to take care of NXT.

I would like to ask him if he would not rather step back if he cant make the time - nobody would blame him...


Three weeks is OK for some things, but for other things oit will be way too long.

We have to make some urgent decisions regarding hiring Devs now, so we need to get more flexible regarding timing.


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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2014, 02:50:55 pm »


We have a mix: 3/5 for normal cases and 4/5 for proposals by Committee members
No veto, as that, as the Roman plebeian tribunes taught us, can stall everything. :)

I like this idea. Definitely not go for 5/5, this will definitely stall things.

3/5 for normal ideas and 4/5 for proposals from committee members seems ideal imo.

well yea but thats the idea. we want some things to stall. we want the right things to stall. all im asking is that we try it. if its ridiculous and things are never getting funded than sure we will have to revisit it. what do you say?

Sorry -guys to demand a 100% vote for every decision is highly unrealistic. I would like to vote on this, but we need to get the TechDev committee running in the first place.

I am quite relieved that antanst wishes to replase JL - but now we have the next issue right away, because I understood from EmonRu that he has some real world issues and does not really have time to take care of NXT.

I would like to ask him if he would not rather step back if he cant make the time - nobody would blame him...


Three weeks is OK for some things, but for other things oit will be way too long.

We have to make some urgent decisions regarding hiring Devs now, so we need to get more flexible regarding timing.

Anon, I take your point but I have to agree that demanding 5/5 is not going to work. Why don't we do the other way around, we go for 3/5 and 4/5 and if we see that we are being too generous, we reconsider?

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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2014, 03:03:20 pm »

Ok so i guess we better talk about this. A 5/5 consensus must be reached inorder to change the 5/5 consensus requirement. In light of the fact that there seems to be such strong opposition to the 5/5 consensus requirement i am willing to change my position. If the other 4 committee members vote in favor of changing the 5/5 consensus requirement to 4/5 than I will vote in favor of that change as well thus giving us a 5/5 consensus on the initiative to change the consensus to 4/5.

First some concerns as to whether emoneyru is still on the TechDev committee have been raised. Lets settle that question and then talk about changing the consensus requirement.
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