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« on: October 29, 2014, 06:54:56 pm »

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Re: This project is over
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2014, 06:57:12 pm »

That it? God, I was waiting for news concerning the project. What is going on?
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2014, 06:58:56 pm »

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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2014, 07:11:30 pm »

BCNext has spoken.
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2014, 07:11:58 pm »

Relax. The project is not over. Stark is going to post an update soon. I am also working on something that Stark wanted, so there are going to be more updates.

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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2014, 07:13:04 pm »

Relax. The project is not over. Stark is going to post an update soon. I am also working on something that Stark wanted, so there are going to be more updates.

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So what this topic is about?
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2014, 07:18:52 pm »

It's a post by a random person.

lol, if it's thís easy to confuse people, we're going to have a lot of fun :D
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2014, 07:20:30 pm »

Relax. The project is not over. Stark is going to post an update soon. I am also working on something that Stark wanted, so there are going to be more updates.

Isildur

So what this topic is about?

I don't know why @4passion decided to make it. He is not part of the project.
I guess he expected more updates. Soon, we will see them :)

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2014, 07:20:39 pm »

It's a post by a random person.

lol, if it's thís easy to confuse people, we're going to have a lot of fun :D

Still wondering why someone post this. I saw after reading his first post the guy was not related to Nxtpoker.
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2014, 07:24:19 pm »

It's a post by a random person.

lol, if it's thís easy to confuse people, we're going to have a lot of fun :D

I hope we are not going to have thàt fun  :D
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2014, 10:31:31 pm »

There is everyone...now where is the dialog?
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2014, 10:32:34 pm »

There is everyone...now where is the dialog?

Well, you start the topic so start the dialog.
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2014, 10:59:14 pm »

I need the most knowledgeable person here we have access to about bitcoin and poker...

otherwise you can kiss this project good bye, it won't launch.

Have we seen how many poker sites are failing these days, and failing to launch?

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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2014, 11:05:12 pm »

I need the most knowledgeable person here we have access to about bitcoin and poker...

otherwise you can kiss this project good bye, it won't launch.

Have we seen how many poker sites are failing these days, and failing to launch?

You might want to create a new topic with a more descriptive title. Only few people will read this thread, imo. Especially since the first post of the topic mean nothing.
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2014, 11:45:22 pm »

I need the most knowledgeable person here we have access to about bitcoin and poker...

otherwise you can kiss this project good bye, it won't launch.

Have we seen how many poker sites are failing these days, and failing to launch?

You might want to create a new topic with a more descriptive title. Only few people will read this thread, imo. Especially since the first post of the topic mean nothing.
ya, no responses, gl project, ive got logic that shows this can't launch.
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2014, 11:47:07 pm »

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Today’s global poker network might not be readily comparable to Nick Szabo’s extension of Metcalf’s Law:

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    Metcalfe’s Law states that a value of a network is proportional to the square of the number of its nodes. In an area where good soils, mines, and forests are randomly distributed, the number of nodes valuable to an industrial economy is proportional to the area encompassed.

However if we assume a global internet landscape of Ideal Poker and the general goal is to facilitate the “probabilistic” exchange of chips from the less efficient players to the more efficient players, then the value of the Ideal Poker network becomes comparable to Nick Szabo’s formalization of Adam Smith’s works:
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    The number of such nodes that can be economically accessed is an inverse square of the cost per mile of transportation. Combine this with Metcalfe’s Law and we reach a dramatic but solid mathematical conclusion: the potential value of a land transportation network is the inverse fourth power of the cost of that transportation. A reduction in transportation costs in a trade network by a factor of two increases the potential value of that network by a factor of sixteen. While a power of exactly 4.0 will usually be too high, due to redundancies, this does show how the cost of transportation can have a radical nonlinear impact on the value of the trade networks it enables.

The networks’ value, is the value  that Ideal (and therefore Moral) Poker brings to our society and how Ideal and how Moral the poker network is. The “transportation” cost in the trade network then becomes the “effective rake” (ie site profits per “transaction”).

So the potential value of an Ideal Poker network is the inverse fourth power of the “effective rake”.

If i can't be put in touch with someone that can understand that, then there is not point, you can't launch.
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Re: This project is over
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2014, 06:50:50 am »

stop creating useless threads...it because of distractions like these that I refrain from public commentrries and endless discussions...there is an update coming soon!
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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2014, 06:52:50 am »

It's a post by a random person.

lol, if it's thís easy to confuse people, we're going to have a lot of fun :D

Damelon pleas prevent non moderators from creating fud like these on this board, there is some organizing on my part which takes time..also stark is just waiting on me now to post more info, ..valuable info that isildur can attest to..I will ring him to delete this board if Damelon does not do it in time...to the trolls go build something or troll elsewhere
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Re: This project is over
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2014, 06:56:22 am »

Say what about what then?
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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2014, 07:13:56 am »

wasn't trolling, was looking for intelligent discussion, can't really understand how we expect to launch if we can't at least to that...
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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2014, 07:25:19 am »

wasn't trolling, was looking for intelligent discussion, can't really understand how we expect to launch if we can't at least to that...

Why not change the subject of the thread to "What's the current status?" or the like?

Exactly...we can theorize and discuss logic all day once I release, I have a working client already, but not to long for a release now. I guess i am just trying to get a coordinated effort going devs, client, other info, more info..stark has his work cutout also


I am also looking for a solution to game asset protection...I have got code obfuscation done
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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2014, 07:44:28 am »

wasn't trolling, was looking for intelligent discussion, can't really understand how we expect to launch if we can't at least to that...

Why not change the subject of the thread to "What's the current status?" or the like?
Firstly I'm not a mod, secondly, I started some dialog but no one was there...

I simply knocked louder to see if any one was home, then a bunch of elves popped up...

I'm looking for the head elf or santa tho...
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« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2014, 07:46:40 am »



Exactly...we can theorize and discuss logic all day once I release, I have a working client already, but not to long for a release now. I guess i am just trying to get a coordinated effort going devs, client, other info, more info..stark has his work cutout also


I am also looking for a solution to game asset protection...I have got code obfuscation done

I need dialog with the person that will understand this:

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=6282.msg124863#msg124863
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« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2014, 07:48:20 am »

wasn't trolling, was looking for intelligent discussion, can't really understand how we expect to launch if we can't at least to that...

Why not change the subject of the thread to "What's the current status?" or the like?
Firstly I'm not a mod, secondly, I started some dialog but no one was there...

I simply knocked louder to see if any one was home, then a bunch of elves popped up...

I'm looking for the head elf or santa tho...

ok santa found...we can have fireside chat at christmas (release day) not too long, hint is when you see other developers I have been recruiting post on here (next week it seems)
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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2014, 08:23:27 am »



Exactly...we can theorize and discuss logic all day once I release, I have a working client already, but not to long for a release now. I guess i am just trying to get a coordinated effort going devs, client, other info, more info..stark has his work cutout also


I am also looking for a solution to game asset protection...I have got code obfuscation done

I need dialog with the person that will understand this:

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=6282.msg124863#msg124863

Just to answer breifly..What he is proposing has no bearing on this project whatsoever, that theory is making a case for a new coin and that just maybe 1 other solution to dec poker,  doesn't take into consideration embedded systems, or other networks within networks based on NXT for example

also ideal and morality comes down to one thing transparency (provable fairness etc...), its then up to the users to add value to the network by joining based on their perception.
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« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2014, 08:51:32 am »

Its faster if we don't start out with the assumption and then conclusion I am wrong.  What is being proposed is the merging of ALL poker networks and projects, and does not need your project whatsoever.  Provided you can begin to comprehend what we are reading and discussing there maybe a future for Nxt in such a concept.

I think what has happened is everyone has taken the new concept of Satoshi decentralization and attempted to apply it in different forms, while simultaneously ignoring the Nashian Economics that is the fundamental foundation for this entire movement.

Morality does encompass provable fairness, but when it comes to the community "joining", they not are going to move a "chip" unless you are inline with Nashian Economics:

http://sites.stat.psu.edu/~babu/nash/money.pdf

So far I'm not sure we are speaking on the same level.
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« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2014, 09:15:57 am »

Its faster if we don't start out with the assumption and then conclusion I am wrong.  What is being proposed is the merging of ALL poker networks and projects, and does not need your project whatsoever.  Provided you can begin to comprehend what we are reading and discussing there maybe a future for Nxt in such a concept.

I think what has happened is everyone has taken the new concept of Satoshi decentralization and attempted to apply it in different forms, while simultaneously ignoring the Nashian Economics that is the fundamental foundation for this entire movement.

Morality does encompass provable fairness, but when it comes to the community "joining", they not are going to move a "chip" unless you are inline with Nashian Economics:

http://sites.stat.psu.edu/~babu/nash/money.pdf

So far I'm not sure we are speaking on the same level.

I am familiar with nash equilibrium and you are right I have no idea what you are "proposing", you can theorize and predict who will or who will not join or "move a chip", the few fundamental principles the projects is built on will show otherwise...I am done with this, back to work
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« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2014, 03:40:04 pm »



I am familiar with nash equilibrium and you are right I have no idea what you are "proposing", you can theorize and predict who will or who will not join or "move a chip", the few fundamental principles the projects is built on will show otherwise...I am done with this, back to work
Listen.  Carefully.

I need someone, from this project, that understands what I wrote in that link.  Not someone that doesn't understand it, or cannot understand it, and therefore judges it as irrelevant and with ignorance. 

Nash has been touring the world talking about a new kind of money technology and how it is going to creating a "money printing" revolution.  I have taken that works and extended it out to poker as a network.  Don't bother going back to work on this project, if you ignore this, I already told you...there is no substance here.

Good luck.
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« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2014, 03:57:48 pm »



I am familiar with nash equilibrium and you are right I have no idea what you are "proposing", you can theorize and predict who will or who will not join or "move a chip", the few fundamental principles the projects is built on will show otherwise...I am done with this, back to work
Listen.  Carefully.

I need someone, from this project, that understands what I wrote in that link.  Not someone that doesn't understand it, or cannot understand it, and therefore judges it as irrelevant and with ignorance. 

Nash has been touring the world talking about a new kind of money technology and how it is going to creating a "money printing" revolution.  I have taken that works and extended it out to poker as a network.  Don't bother going back to work on this project, if you ignore this, I already told you...there is no substance here.

Good luck.

good luck and good bye
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« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2014, 05:05:35 pm »


good luck and good bye
I am a professional poker player and have written extensively on the economics of the game.  You have made a grave error in the outline of your project, and I meant to point it out and work towards realignment.

Of course if there is no one here with the capacity to understand the economic theories I am referring to then it would be difficult for me to reason with you wouldn't it? Nonetheless this serve as a perfect confession that those involved in this project may know what poker is, may know what crypto is, may know what decentralization and autonomous means, but they are clearly lack the economic fundamentals of the poker economy that would bring the necessary cohesiveness needed for a successful project.

You can be as rude and unbecoming as you want, but ignorance doesn't change the fact that you have a clear logical flaw in the project design... I came to help fix it...but there is no one here to talk to about it.
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« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2014, 05:08:16 pm »



I am familiar with nash equilibrium and you are right I have no idea what you are "proposing", you can theorize and predict who will or who will not join or "move a chip", the few fundamental principles the projects is built on will show otherwise...I am done with this, back to work
Listen.  Carefully.

I need someone, from this project, that understands what I wrote in that link.  Not someone that doesn't understand it, or cannot understand it, and therefore judges it as irrelevant and with ignorance. 

Nash has been touring the world talking about a new kind of money technology and how it is going to creating a "money printing" revolution.  I have taken that works and extended it out to poker as a network.  Don't bother going back to work on this project, if you ignore this, I already told you...there is no substance here.

Good luck.

  Yeh dude..  we all understand you..  but I tell ya there ain't nothing worse then an elitest philosopher or economist or  that pisses in the face of those that are working instead of working...

   What is your cause to aid here? Do you have one?

 Right.  A universal poker game? Is that what you would like?  That's brilliant! *applause*

   In case my intelligence is far below yours.. A little elf as you say.  Do humor Me and speak down to me.  Come on down from there.  I'm short.  I'm an elf.  I need to grasp thy grand wisdom.. that way I can put it into my little elf plans to show santy clause.



 
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« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2014, 05:10:52 pm »


good luck and good bye
I am a professional poker player and have written extensively on the economics of the game.  You have made a grave error in the outline of your project, and I meant to point it out and work towards realignment.

Of course if there is no one here with the capacity to understand the economic theories I am referring to then it would be difficult for me to reason with you wouldn't it? Nonetheless this serve as a perfect confession that those involved in this project may know what poker is, may know what crypto is, may know what decentralization and autonomous means, but they are clearly lack the economic fundamentals of the poker economy that would bring the necessary cohesiveness needed for a successful project.

You can be as rude and unbecoming as you want, but ignorance doesn't change the fact that you have a clear logical flaw in the project design... I came to help fix it...but there is no one here to talk to about it.

  Please please.  Get all that dick out of your mouth.  I need to understand you oh great one. What's coming out of your mouth makes no sense for my little mind with all that cock flapping around.
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« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2014, 05:12:37 pm »


Intelliwhat now?
What is this, am I supposed to address this?

  Yeh dude..  we all understand you..  but I tell ya there ain't nothing worse then an elitest philosopher or economist or  that pisses in the face of those that are working instead of working...

   What is your cause to aid here? Do you have one?

 Right.  A universal poker game? Is that what you would like?  That's brilliant! *applause*

   In case my intelligence is far below yours.. A little elf as you say.  Do humor Me and speak down to me.  Come on down from there.  I'm short.  I'm an elf.  I need to grasp thy grand wisdom.. that way I can put it into my little elf plans to show santy clause.

No you clearly don't understand me.  I don't want to talk to rando trolls I want dialog with the person that understand this https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=6282.msg124863#msg124863

If you cannot produce such a person...we have an issue here at nxt...

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« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2014, 05:13:25 pm »

  Please please.  Get all that dick out of your mouth.  I need to understand you oh great one. What's coming out of your mouth makes no sense for my little mind with all that cock flapping around.
Ha, is this your team?

Seriously tho, dear other people here, I am looking for an honest intelligent man...
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« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2014, 05:14:49 pm »

please state the flaw in common word so I could understand. Thanks
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« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2014, 05:14:56 pm »

  Please please.  Get all that dick out of your mouth.  I need to understand you oh great one. What's coming out of your mouth makes no sense for my little mind with all that cock flapping around.
Ha, is this your team?

 Nope I'm just a nxter.  Who the fck are you? Seem like a pompous prick.   
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« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2014, 05:16:26 pm »

please state the flaw in common word so I could understand. Thanks

  That's the nice way of saying it.  I prefer sarcasm to gobbling elitest ego.  But these folks are nice here.  Care to step of the throne for a moment?
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« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2014, 05:20:01 pm »

please state the flaw in common word so I could understand. Thanks

  That's the nice way of saying it.  I prefer sarcasm to gobbling elitest ego.  But these folks are nice here.  Care to step of the throne for a moment?

Sorry I don'T understand your statement (I'm not english native).
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« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2014, 05:22:22 pm »

please state the flaw in common word so I could understand. Thanks

  That's the nice way of saying it.  I prefer sarcasm to gobbling elitest ego.  But these folks are nice here.  Care to step of the throne for a moment?

Sorry I don'T understand your statement (I'm not english native).

 Lol.  I'm saying you are a nicer man then me.  Quoted you, but directed at 4passion.
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« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2014, 05:24:52 pm »

please state the flaw in common word so I could understand. Thanks

  That's the nice way of saying it.  I prefer sarcasm to gobbling elitest ego.  But these folks are nice here.  Care to step of the throne for a moment?

Sorry I don'T understand your statement (I'm not english native).

 Lol.  I'm saying you are a nicer man then me.  Quoted you, but directed at 4passion.

ha, I see now.  :D
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« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2014, 05:25:08 pm »

please state the flaw in common word so I could understand. Thanks
I'm leaving.

Common flaw: design was created inside a box.
Implementation is intended where there is no box.

Analysis was done in a vacuum, economy doesn't function in a vacuum

This is all you get https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=6282.msg124863#msg124863

There is no one here to save you.
(ie nxtpoker cannot launch because no players community will support it)

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« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2014, 05:26:42 pm »

please state the flaw in common word so I could understand. Thanks
I'm leaving.

Common flaw: design was created inside a box.
Implementation is intended where there is no box.

Analysis was done in a vacuum, economy doesn't function in a vacuum

This is all you get https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=6282.msg124863#msg124863

There is no one here to save you.

I'm sorry to hear that you don't want to take the time to explain yourself in more words.
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« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2014, 05:31:17 pm »

I'm sorry to hear that you don't want to take the time to explain yourself in more words.

Would you stay:

  Please please.  Get all that dick out of your mouth.  I need to understand you oh great one. What's coming out of your mouth makes no sense for my little mind with all that cock flapping around.

My words fall on deaf ears.  This project knows everything about crypto and design, but nothing about the poker economy and the community that holds it together.  hundreds of linking papers would show the obvious result...this project will not attract players it will be a different decentralized project with PROPER implementation.

Think about that every time people ask for an update, and all they get is a deadline extension.
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« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2014, 05:32:59 pm »

   In regards to esoteric keys, you would be Concerned as professional poker player and accomplished economist, journaling and perhaps authoring several great works?
 
   That you discovered a fatal flaw... your chips might not be worth the same amount of usd as when you cashed in, hence making it intellectually impossible to decide what to bet as a 'professional' poker player.

  And so brought up the idea there should be in game chips perhaps valued slightly higher to mitigate that risk and also be honored and tradable to many currencies including fiat.

  Of course your economics study seems to have missed political and legislative barriers such as money transmission laws and such..

  The world is bigger then your mind friend.  So when making suggestions, it is always good to do so assuming you're not an intellectual grandmaster who speaks above his lowly subjects. 

  That way people can speak with you. Else.  Well, its just trolling. 

  I would love to have a game of poker with you when this is finished. 

Re: 4passion
"I don't know where to write this, but I am holding the "esoteric keys" to this nxtPoker project.  I need to know who to give them to..."
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« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2014, 05:36:59 pm »

Well, I do understand that you feel that not being listen. The guy at nxtpoker are not the most communicative people that I saw in the Nxt community (sorry for the arrow, but I'm still waiting some answers from you guys  ;)). There is improvement on their part that could be done. That is true.

I do think however, that on your part 4passion, you seem to take your words as god words  :D. Please simply be kind and ask for specific question instead of trowing a philo speak. You are in a forum, it is better to do short statement and get the info you need step by step.

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« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2014, 05:39:59 pm »

I'm sorry to hear that you don't want to take the time to explain yourself in more words.

Would you stay:

  Please please.  Get all that dick out of your mouth.  I need to understand you oh great one. What's coming out of your mouth makes no sense for my little mind with all that cock flapping around.

My words fall on deaf ears.  This project knows everything about crypto and design, but nothing about the poker economy and the community that holds it together.  hundreds of linking papers would show the obvious result...this project will not attract players it will be a different decentralized project with PROPER implementation.

Think about that every time people ask for an update, and all they get is a deadline extension.

  Now you're really not making sense.  I was starting to feel bad that maybe you were one of those helplessly smart people that forgot to shower or wipe their ass.  Now seems the latter. 

  Cmon man.  Stand up and explain yourself.  Quit quoting somebody else and speak your own words.  I know this is cryptos but stop being cryptic and rolling your eyes.  Give it a conversation.  Aka - get all that cock out of your mouth

  If you're as brilliant as self - proclaimed as you are, try speaking.   If  no one can understand your greatness.  There is no greatness.   

  There's nothing worse then philosophers arguing how to swing a hammer in front of the guy swinging the hammer, who have never swung a hammer before.
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Re: This project is over
« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2014, 09:49:37 pm »

update?
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« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2014, 11:06:47 pm »

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« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2014, 12:13:19 am »

Hi,
Stark is very busy now, but there will be an update soon.
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« Reply #50 on: November 16, 2014, 02:51:31 pm »

update?


Just to provide a meta update
-stark is basically waiting until I complete my assigned tasks, before he posts more important info...He said he will post other info this week

-My tasks :
 
 1) organize devs to jump into the project for when the crowdsale ends
      We a have a 6 dev team, plus me which is 7 in total. I was able to get 8 initially, but 2 dropped out due to uncertainty of crypto land
        this is me recruiting the past 3 weeks --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs    :D

2) media redesign update

3) several other releases (very exciting but will refrain from the cliche exact dates...but before Nxt's Birthday)

It is my goal to update the board with the Dev details, and get the devs signed up on here confirming my post late next week.
Everyone of them are excited about the project

Ps- code base is now far from a demo, basically 65% complete from and actual alpa product (I know bad way to develop. But I thought its necessary to show more functionality, the devs will follow a more frequent iterative-release cycle model )
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« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2015, 04:20:33 pm »

Bump for truth.  You need people and discussion to make a concept like this work.

Promises and promises and fancy stuff won't do it.

Where is the discussion?
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« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2015, 05:01:02 pm »

Bump for truth.  You need people and discussion to make a concept like this work.

Promises and promises and fancy stuff won't do it.

Where is the discussion?

"Passion..whatever", "jal Toorey" or "john smith" ...we are all aware of your aliases and disruptive efforts (ideal popker/this project is over/naj-whatever) and your effort to start Fud internally. And we have plans for trolls like these...

This is a community project and it will very clear with the next set of releases. There is a lot we could have put out which will drive hype, but we felt its best now to set the foundation to enable those kinds of community discussions.

Right now the team is growing and foundation is being set. So if you are truly interested in contributing have some patience. You will see soon
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« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2015, 07:21:59 pm »

I'm glad ur aware, but I don't mean to disrupt anything but the centralized models.  I find "FUD" posts seem to attract a quick response (or any response at all). 

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And we have plans for trolls like these...
I hope it involves letting others into the discussion so they might contribute in any way they can.

All I get is messages saying there can be discussion, but seemingly never any dialog.

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If you are aware of me then you know I support these projects wholeheartedly.  I do think though that the conversation should be mainstream, and for example most sites these days are unplayable due to (alleged?) ddos attacks. 
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