Topic: Pokereum Crowdfunding (Read 63999 times)

pokerlover · « **Reply #160 on:** August 08, 2015, 09:21:27 am »

When can I start playing poker with your software?

JohnHolmes · « **Reply #161 on:** November 23, 2015, 05:46:25 am »

Quote from: pokerlover on August 08, 2015, 09:21:27 am

When can I start playing poker with your software?

Is pokereum still being developed?

innovator256 · « **Reply #162 on:** November 23, 2015, 12:47:43 pm »

Quote from: JohnHolmes on November 23, 2015, 05:46:25 am

Quote from: pokerlover on August 08, 2015, 09:21:27 am
When can I start playing poker with your software?

Is pokereum still being developed?

Yep very much so, but entirely under Ethereum, and under a grand new scheme

...Although I doubt nxters would support. Looks like most here suffer under the rabbit tunnel vision of "Nxt maximalism" and fail to see the innovation that Ethereum brings, when in fact we can all work together...I once pleaded with devs to make smart contracts a priority....

In any case there could still be a portion of the Grand new scheme and its tokens which pokereum is a part of, sold through The Nxt asset exchange...All depends on interest though. And I hope I don't get crucified for making the factual statement above...

innovator256 · « **Reply #163 on:** November 23, 2015, 12:51:29 pm »

Quote from: pokerlover on August 08, 2015, 09:21:27 am

When can I start playing poker with your software?

Very soon..It is a long term project and it took some reorganizing and moving to another platform (Ethereum smart contracts) that enables the functionality we need...But you will here soon of the some releases

innovator256 · « **Reply #164 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:13:07 pm »

This is in relation to the statement I made above, if anyone would like early access or early backing to our grand scheme, similar to the infamous supernet, but with actually deflationary mutual fund like dapps, funneling actual profits to one set off tokens, Pokereum is just one of the dapps funeling into one set of 100 million tokens, there are others too already with working prototypes on the precipice of unvieling

someone say slack?

...let me know, show some support or you can tell me to piss off...

I have waited very long to see what the angle of attack is and how Pokereum fits into the grand scheme of things...It has materialized and we are ready, even though some of our team has been decimated over the months.

Just to be clear, this is an Ethereum MEGA project, but I was there at the very beginning of NXT so I have a special attachment for the model type of community nxt brings. We can all work together if you want. There are one set of tokens which already have value (I am sure one of our early backers can testify to this if he or she chooses to

quote this if you see this post to confirm... ) multiple dapp projects, free bounties (marketing, development, comunity org etc..) Early backing discounts, things I hoped Nxt would have enabled through smart contracts. Nevertheless I think Nxters can benefit from early involvement now if they so choose to.

This is the plan :

If there is enough support I will write some discounts into smart contract tokens to interested parties, then get a list of people willing to be active for bounties and someone here can keep track of these interested people. Then we can have a more clear discussion and give early access.

I have waited very long and watched this space beofore moving, taking my time and not issuing and selling worthless assets that have no potential for realistic Profits/dividends, the time is now and you are welcome to inquire more. I am even semi public follow me and ask questions here :https://twitter.com/cryptoInnovator

If not, I will gladly leave you die hard nxters alone. Congrats to cfb on tangle...

Edit : Forgot to add that...if there is any significant support / commitment at all, I will post the site here first before any other communities which is a pointer to all the information location ( explanation, demos, discussion etc...) I discussed above. Thanks

Alfred Dulaire · « **Reply #165 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:28:08 pm »

Quote from: innovator256 on November 23, 2015, 01:13:07 pm

I have waited very long and watched this space before moving, taking my time and not issuing and selling worthless assets that have no potential for realistic Profits/dividends, the time is now and you are welcome to inquire more. I am even semi public follow me and ask questions here :https://twitter.com/cryptoInnovator

If not, I will gladly leave you die hard nxters alone. Congrats to cfb on tangle...

It is a very interesting project!

Can't we make some copy/pasta of it and adapt it to NXT so we run our own poker stuff ?
I think you'll make even more money see how low NXT is actually ! And these games are always a massive hit.

innovator256 · « **Reply #166 on:** November 23, 2015, 01:36:01 pm »

Quote from: Alfred Dulaire on November 23, 2015, 01:28:08 pm

Quote from: innovator256 on November 23, 2015, 01:13:07 pm
I have waited very long and watched this space before moving, taking my time and not issuing and selling worthless assets that have no potential for realistic Profits/dividends, the time is now and you are welcome to inquire more. I am even semi public follow me and ask questions here :https://twitter.com/cryptoInnovator

If not, I will gladly leave you die hard nxters alone. Congrats to cfb on tangle...

It is a very interesting project!

Can't we make some copy/pasta of it and adapt it to NXT so we run our own poker stuff ?
I think you'll make even more money see how low NXT is actually ! And these games are always a massive hit.

Well you could, but it would be of no use...also I doubt the Nxt devs would write custom transaction types to support just one application into the core of Nxt software...You would need to write your own meta scheme on top of nxt. A good example is the supernet project and you can see that it doesn't touch NXT core at all even though it is of great benefit to Nxt

Alfred Dulaire · « **Reply #167 on:** November 23, 2015, 02:23:46 pm »

Quote from: innovator256 on November 23, 2015, 01:36:01 pm

Quote from: Alfred Dulaire on November 23, 2015, 01:28:08 pm
Quote from: innovator256 on November 23, 2015, 01:13:07 pm
I have waited very long and watched this space before moving, taking my time and not issuing and selling worthless assets that have no potential for realistic Profits/dividends, the time is now and you are welcome to inquire more. I am even semi public follow me and ask questions here :https://twitter.com/cryptoInnovator

If not, I will gladly leave you die hard nxters alone. Congrats to cfb on tangle...

It is a very interesting project!

Can't we make some copy/pasta of it and adapt it to NXT so we run our own poker stuff ?
I think you'll make even more money see how low NXT is actually ! And these games are always a massive hit.

Well you could, but it would be of no use...also I doubt the Nxt devs would write custom transaction types to support just one application into the core of Nxt software...You would need to write your own meta scheme on top of nxt. A good example is the supernet project and you can see that it doesn't touch NXT core at all even though it is of great benefit to Nxt

Is the smart contract really still dead for NXT?
You state in your white paper that you may move from ethereum to NXT once this is made.
It may be a smart move!

innovator256 · « **Reply #168 on:** November 23, 2015, 02:34:26 pm »

Quote from: Alfred Dulaire on November 23, 2015, 02:23:46 pm

Quote from: innovator256 on November 23, 2015, 01:36:01 pm
Quote from: Alfred Dulaire on November 23, 2015, 01:28:08 pm
Quote from: innovator256 on November 23, 2015, 01:13:07 pm
I have waited very long and watched this space before moving, taking my time and not issuing and selling worthless assets that have no potential for realistic Profits/dividends, the time is now and you are welcome to inquire more. I am even semi public follow me and ask questions here :https://twitter.com/cryptoInnovator

If not, I will gladly leave you die hard nxters alone. Congrats to cfb on tangle...

It is a very interesting project!

Can't we make some copy/pasta of it and adapt it to NXT so we run our own poker stuff ?
I think you'll make even more money see how low NXT is actually ! And these games are always a massive hit.

Well you could, but it would be of no use...also I doubt the Nxt devs would write custom transaction types to support just one application into the core of Nxt software...You would need to write your own meta scheme on top of nxt. A good example is the supernet project and you can see that it doesn't touch NXT core at all even though it is of great benefit to Nxt

Is the smart contract really still dead for NXT?
You state in your white paper that you may move from ethereum to NXT once this is made.
It may be a smart move!

Not sure about the status of smart contracts on nxt, although at one point cfb was building a sql based abstraction for smart contracts on nxt db. In anycase, it would have a lot of usefulness to Nxt if it was still implemented. But I suspect there is a lot of risk and not enough man power to asses the risk of unleashing turing completeness on a ~ $6 mill live blockchain...

Well the move was the next logical conclusion. Smart contracts was a unique feature I was waiting for since 2013, rather than trying to manipulate cryptographic primitives myself or noob-launch my own blockchain . I wait for the best implemetation, then implement application layers on top and see how to try to provide access to the whole cryto economy united for easier mainstream adoption rather than a maximalist idealogy...

Alfred Dulaire · « **Reply #169 on:** November 23, 2015, 02:39:43 pm »

Quote from: innovator256 on November 23, 2015, 02:34:26 pm

try to provide access to the whole cryto economy united for easier mainstream adoption

This is something I'd like to read more often

innovator256 · « **Reply #170 on:** November 23, 2015, 03:20:06 pm »

Quote from: Alfred Dulaire on November 23, 2015, 02:39:43 pm

Quote from: innovator256 on November 23, 2015, 02:34:26 pm
try to provide access to the whole cryto economy united for easier mainstream adoption

This is something I'd like to read more often

I'd like to see more of this as well, in the wake of cooption of the crypto distruption mainstream narrative by the private blockchain folks...

MadCow · « **Reply #171 on:** November 25, 2015, 12:53:40 pm »

Quote from: innovator256 on November 23, 2015, 01:13:07 pm

This is in relation to the statement I made above, if anyone would like early access or early backing to our grand scheme, similar to the infamous supernet, but with actually deflationary mutual fund like dapps, funneling actual profits to one set off tokens, Pokereum is just one of the dapps funeling into one set of 100 million tokens, there are others too already with working prototypes on the precipice of unvieling someone say slack? ...let me know, show some support or you can tell me to piss off...

I have waited very long to see what the angle of attack is and how Pokereum fits into the grand scheme of things...It has materialized and we are ready, even though some of our team has been decimated over the months.

Just to be clear, this is an Ethereum MEGA project, but I was there at the very beginning of NXT so I have a special attachment for the model type of community nxt brings. We can all work together if you want. There are one set of tokens which already have value (I am sure one of our early backers can testify to this if he or she chooses to quote this if you see this post to confirm... ) multiple dapp projects, free bounties (marketing, development, comunity org etc..) Early backing discounts, things I hoped Nxt would have enabled through smart contracts. Nevertheless I think Nxters can benefit from early involvement now if they so choose to.

This is the plan :

If there is enough support I will write some discounts into smart contract tokens to interested parties, then get a list of people willing to be active for bounties and someone here can keep track of these interested people. Then we can have a more clear discussion and give early access.

I have waited very long and watched this space beofore moving, taking my time and not issuing and selling worthless assets that have no potential for realistic Profits/dividends, the time is now and you are welcome to inquire more. I am even semi public follow me and ask questions here :https://twitter.com/cryptoInnovator

If not, I will gladly leave you die hard nxters alone. Congrats to cfb on tangle...

Edit : Forgot to add that...if there is any significant support / commitment at all, I will post the site here first before any other communities which is a pointer to all the information location ( explanation, demos, discussion etc...) I discussed above. Thanks

I would like to confirm that I purchased 1 million Pokereum tokens under the original NXTpoker roadmap, and subsequently purchased another ~750K tokens in two batches after the change from NXT platform to Ethereum. All three purchases came with nice early-bird discounts, which I believe are still available, although reduced from the levels I received ~12 months ago now that the Pokereum launch date is imminent.

I've been around NXT since (almost) the beginning, and have been fortunate enough to be an early investor in many NXT related projects over the last 24 months, and I believe NXT has a very bright future ahead (I always like the 'NXT is the Linux of crypto' analogy - great tech, great community, decentralised & open development).

Having said that, I initially decided to get into NXT as a hedge against Bitcoin, and I see Ethereum based projects like Pokereum as a hedge against NXT & Bitcoin. None of us know how the future will play out. As a NXTer I was initially disappointed when I heard the news that NxtPoker was not going to be possible within the current smart contracts roadmap for NXT, but later I came to see this as a benefit to me personally as it diversified my crypto portfolio into another strong crypto contender, Ethereum, which at that stage I had not invested in.

My strategy with crypto has always been to build a diversified portfolio that gives me the best chance of satisfying my investment goal - "if crypto takes off, I do well", so that means holding a diversified range of coins & assets that have good chances of achieving mainstream success. I prefer that strategy to betting everything on one crypto project. I think many crypto investors are the same. Speculators and traders will dance with anything 'hot', but investment is a long-term game, and with crypto it makes sense to invest in quality projects with good people behind them.

Pokereum ticks a lot of boxes in my otherwise heavily NXT oriented portfolio:
- Poker has obvious mass adoption appeal
- Ethereum platform is a good hedge for NXT
- Pokereum is a good hedge for Pangea (I also own a good sized investment in Pangea)

So I hodl Pangea on NXT, and Pokereum on Ethereum - whatever happens (and I honestly believe both projects will succeed) I have my decentralised poker bases covered! Decentralised Poker as the first crypto 'killer app' seems very likely in the next phase of crypto development over the next 1-2 years.

I'm more than satisfied with all my dealings to date with innovator256, and I'm happy to confirm any further details to any interested parties.

innovator256 · « **Reply #172 on:** November 25, 2015, 02:52:38 pm »

Quote from: MadCow on November 25, 2015, 12:53:40 pm

Quote from: innovator256 on November 23, 2015, 01:13:07 pm
This is in relation to the statement I made above, if anyone would like early access or early backing to our grand scheme, similar to the infamous supernet, but with actually deflationary mutual fund like dapps, funneling actual profits to one set off tokens, Pokereum is just one of the dapps funeling into one set of 100 million tokens, there are others too already with working prototypes on the precipice of unvieling someone say slack? ...let me know, show some support or you can tell me to piss off...

I have waited very long to see what the angle of attack is and how Pokereum fits into the grand scheme of things...It has materialized and we are ready, even though some of our team has been decimated over the months.

Just to be clear, this is an Ethereum MEGA project, but I was there at the very beginning of NXT so I have a special attachment for the model type of community nxt brings. We can all work together if you want. There are one set of tokens which already have value (I am sure one of our early backers can testify to this if he or she chooses to quote this if you see this post to confirm... ) multiple dapp projects, free bounties (marketing, development, comunity org etc..) Early backing discounts, things I hoped Nxt would have enabled through smart contracts. Nevertheless I think Nxters can benefit from early involvement now if they so choose to.

This is the plan :

If there is enough support I will write some discounts into smart contract tokens to interested parties, then get a list of people willing to be active for bounties and someone here can keep track of these interested people. Then we can have a more clear discussion and give early access.

I have waited very long and watched this space beofore moving, taking my time and not issuing and selling worthless assets that have no potential for realistic Profits/dividends, the time is now and you are welcome to inquire more. I am even semi public follow me and ask questions here :https://twitter.com/cryptoInnovator

If not, I will gladly leave you die hard nxters alone. Congrats to cfb on tangle...

Edit : Forgot to add that...if there is any significant support / commitment at all, I will post the site here first before any other communities which is a pointer to all the information location ( explanation, demos, discussion etc...) I discussed above. Thanks

I would like to confirm that I purchased 1 million Pokereum tokens under the original NXTpoker roadmap, and subsequently purchased another ~750K tokens in two batches after the change from NXT platform to Ethereum. All three purchases came with nice early-bird discounts, which I believe are still available, although reduced from the levels I received ~12 months ago now that the Pokereum launch date is imminent.

I've been around NXT since (almost) the beginning, and have been fortunate enough to be an early investor in many NXT related projects over the last 24 months, and I believe NXT has a very bright future ahead (I always like the 'NXT is the Linux of crypto' analogy - great tech, great community, decentralised & open development).

Having said that, I initially decided to get into NXT as a hedge against Bitcoin, and I see Ethereum based projects like Pokereum as a hedge against NXT & Bitcoin. None of us know how the future will play out. As a NXTer I was initially disappointed when I heard the news that NxtPoker was not going to be possible within the current smart contracts roadmap for NXT, but later I came to see this as a benefit to me personally as it diversified my crypto portfolio into another strong crypto contender, Ethereum, which at that stage I had not invested in.

My strategy with crypto has always been to build a diversified portfolio that gives me the best chance of satisfying my investment goal - "if crypto takes off, I do well", so that means holding a diversified range of coins & assets that have good chances of achieving mainstream success. I prefer that strategy to betting everything on one crypto project. I think many crypto investors are the same. Speculators and traders will dance with anything 'hot', but investment is a long-term game, and with crypto it makes sense to invest in quality projects with good people behind them.

Pokereum ticks a lot of boxes in my otherwise heavily NXT oriented portfolio:
- Poker has obvious mass adoption appeal
- Ethereum platform is a good hedge for NXT
- Pokereum is a good hedge for Pangea (I also own a good sized investment in Pangea)

So I hodl Pangea on NXT, and Pokereum on Ethereum - whatever happens (and I honestly believe both projects will succeed) I have my decentralised poker bases covered! Decentralised Poker as the first crypto 'killer app' seems very likely in the next phase of crypto development over the next 1-2 years.

I'm more than satisfied with all my dealings to date with innovator256, and I'm happy to confirm any further details to any interested parties.

Thanks for your light

. Just to be clear early-bird discounts are still available but reduced from the time of early involvement of Madcow and other earlies. There is a total of 100 million tokens of this mega umbrella project one of which is pokereum dapp, there is another dapp with a working prototype and potential for other new ones, funneling profits to one set of tokens. The Price is 0.000221btc/token and there is also only 5 million tokens left for anymore backer activity, the other 85% goes toward DAO budget activity... Inquire or make yourself known if interested. Dont wait till this is public.

Also I thought nxters love free stuff? These tokens already have value that will be confirmed by early backer last price smart contract claim. Will you wait till its public or in another comunity to act? The plan for interested parties in bounties is to see or get a list of people willing to be active for bounties and someone here can keep track of these interested people....let yourselfs be known...

Pokereum is also just one dapp other dapps under one Governance DAO..think of supernet but in a DAO form with multiple dapps funneling excess profits to one set of 100 million tokens...thats as far I say for now...

blackyblack1 · « **Reply #173 on:** November 26, 2015, 07:49:00 am »

Quote from: MadCow on November 25, 2015, 12:53:40 pm

I'm more than satisfied with all my dealings to date with innovator256, and I'm happy to confirm any further details to any interested parties.

Could you please inform us what milestones are achieved by Pokereum project? Did you see working prototype? Source code? Video of the gameplay?
I do not know anything about Pokereum progress so far but you should be really aware of anything going on. So please let us know what is the current progress from your point of view.

blackyblack1 · « **Reply #174 on:** November 26, 2015, 07:54:24 am »

Quote from: innovator256 on November 25, 2015, 02:52:38 pm

There is a total of 100 million tokens of this mega umbrella project one of which is pokereum dapp, there is another dapp with a working prototype and potential for other new ones, funneling profits to one set of tokens. The Price is 0.000221btc/token and there is also only 5 million tokens left for anymore backer activity, the other 85% goes toward DAO budget activity...

So you estimate the marketcap of Pokereum at 7000000 USD. What can you show to the investors to claim so high marketcap? It is bigger than marketcap of NXT and it is 10% of Ethereum to compare with.

Quote from: innovator256 on November 25, 2015, 02:52:38 pm

Also I thought nxters love free stuff? These tokens already have value that will be confirmed by early backer last price smart contract claim.

Could you please elaborate what is this value the tokens have? I do not understand this "early backer last price smart contract claim" - it does not make any sense to me. And where is this "free stuff"? Can I have some of this "free stuff"?

MadCow · « **Reply #175 on:** November 28, 2015, 12:30:57 pm »

Quote from: blackyblack1 on November 26, 2015, 07:49:00 am

Quote from: MadCow on November 25, 2015, 12:53:40 pm
I'm more than satisfied with all my dealings to date with innovator256, and I'm happy to confirm any further details to any interested parties.
Could you please inform us what milestones are achieved by Pokereum project? Did you see working prototype? Source code? Video of the gameplay?
I do not know anything about Pokereum progress so far but you should be really aware of anything going on. So please let us know what is the current progress from your point of view.

I'm a first stage investor only and not involved in the dev side of pokereum, so I'll leave it to innovator256 to comment on the progress of coding work and such to date. The point of my earlier post was mainly to confirm my purchase price of 0.000221btc/token (less discount) for the purposes of bootstrapping the DAO.

I did my research into innovator256 and Nxtpoker/pokereum before I invested 12 months ago when there was just an idea, and I came to the conclusion this was a serious project with potential (i.e NOT a scam), and the early bird discount I received made it a good risk:reward investment for my portfolio. It's similar to other first round investments I've made in NXT and crypto where you're basically judging the potential of an unknown forum 'personality' with an idea before much dev work has happened. There's a large risk of failure, but also the potential for large rewards that increase the earlier you invest when uncertainty and risk are the greatest (e.g. BCNext & his 73 investors).

I've read the white paper, seen some screen shots, and had regular communication with pokereum people over 12 months, so my pokereum first round investment feels similar to others I've made (mynxt.info, DORCS, NXTprivacy, Privatebet, NXTcoinsco etc) in that progress can be be slow without tangible milestones for long periods, and risk of failure is very high, but that doesn't mean things aren't happening, and people aren't working hard. Investing in long term crypto projects requires patience, and cojones.

I certainly don't advise anyone invest in pokereum (or any other crypto project) without doing a lot of research, but if you're going to get an early-bird discount that means you probably wont have all the details, coz once there's a working product the doubt evaporates and everyone wants in.

The failure rate for non-scams is still going to be very high, but with a working decentralised poker app a marketcap of 7M USD will suddenly look very small. I don't know exactly how close we are to a release, but innovator256 seems to be suggesting it's not too far away.

JohnHolmes · « **Reply #176 on:** November 30, 2015, 07:04:17 am »

Quote from: innovator256 on November 23, 2015, 12:47:43 pm

Quote from: JohnHolmes on November 23, 2015, 05:46:25 am
Quote from: pokerlover on August 08, 2015, 09:21:27 am
When can I start playing poker with your software?

Is pokereum still being developed?

Yep very much so, but entirely under Ethereum, and under a grand new scheme ...Although I doubt nxters would support. Looks like most here suffer under the rabbit tunnel vision of "Nxt maximalism" and fail to see the innovation that Ethereum brings, when in fact we can all work together...I once pleaded with devs to make smart contracts a priority....

In any case there could still be a portion of the Grand new scheme and its tokens which pokereum is a part of, sold through The Nxt asset exchange...All depends on interest though. And I hope I don't get crucified for making the factual statement above...

I'd be interested in buying a small amount of pokereum if sold on NXT asset exchange. Would there still be discounts for smaller investors, or do we have to wait for an exchange? I think you'd find interest from NXTers but people want details.

JohnHolmes · « **Reply #177 on:** January 16, 2016, 02:33:26 am »

Quote from: JohnHolmes on November 30, 2015, 07:04:17 am

Quote from: innovator256 on November 23, 2015, 12:47:43 pm
Quote from: JohnHolmes on November 23, 2015, 05:46:25 am
Quote from: pokerlover on August 08, 2015, 09:21:27 am
When can I start playing poker with your software?

Is pokereum still being developed?

Yep very much so, but entirely under Ethereum, and under a grand new scheme ...Although I doubt nxters would support. Looks like most here suffer under the rabbit tunnel vision of "Nxt maximalism" and fail to see the innovation that Ethereum brings, when in fact we can all work together...I once pleaded with devs to make smart contracts a priority....

In any case there could still be a portion of the Grand new scheme and its tokens which pokereum is a part of, sold through The Nxt asset exchange...All depends on interest though. And I hope I don't get crucified for making the factual statement above...

I'd be interested in buying a small amount of pokereum if sold on NXT asset exchange. Would there still be discounts for smaller investors, or do we have to wait for an exchange? I think you'd find interest from NXTers but people want details.

Any response here? I thought Pokereum would launch before Pangea but now I'm not sure ....

innovator256 · « **Reply #178 on:** January 24, 2016, 11:14:05 pm »

Quote from: blackyblack1 on November 26, 2015, 07:49:00 am

Quote from: MadCow on November 25, 2015, 12:53:40 pm
I'm more than satisfied with all my dealings to date with innovator256, and I'm happy to confirm any further details to any interested parties.
Could you please inform us what milestones are achieved by Pokereum project? Did you see working prototype? Source code? Video of the gameplay?
I do not know anything about Pokereum progress so far but you should be really aware of anything going on. So please let us know what is the current progress from your point of view.

I have been off nxt threads for a while, just focusing on Ethereum tech... I am sure he can confirm this... I showed him the video of a partially completed front end in action back then...

innovator256 · « **Reply #179 on:** January 24, 2016, 11:35:59 pm »

Quote from: blackyblack1 on November 26, 2015, 07:54:24 am

Quote from: innovator256 on November 25, 2015, 02:52:38 pm
There is a total of 100 million tokens of this mega umbrella project one of which is pokereum dapp, there is another dapp with a working prototype and potential for other new ones, funneling profits to one set of tokens. The Price is 0.000221btc/token and there is also only 5 million tokens left for anymore backer activity, the other 85% goes toward DAO budget activity...
So you estimate the marketcap of Pokereum at 7000000 USD. What can you show to the investors to claim so high marketcap? It is bigger than marketcap of NXT and it is 10% of Ethereum to compare with.

Quote from: innovator256 on November 25, 2015, 02:52:38 pm
Also I thought nxters love free stuff? These tokens already have value that will be confirmed by early backer last price smart contract claim.
Could you please elaborate what is this value the tokens have? I do not understand this "early backer last price smart contract claim" - it does not make any sense to me. And where is this "free stuff"? Can I have some of this "free stuff"?

Answer1
xcuse my lateness, 7000000 USD at the time of your writing was the notional value as per last price from each backer... and the then ~7000000 USD is irrelevant now considering the evolution of the nature of the project (its not just pokereum now). There is research, development in front and back-end (smart contract) that are available to the next set of private commitments before we go public, once its public its a different pricing point. But right now the holidays took the gas out of our devs and I am back hearding cats and training a new set to take over and priv backers to bring back confidence in old devs...Also its not about the platform, its the potential value and ROI of the project on top and the technical development to probability market entry...

Answer2

Well I tried to explain in the previous thread, I guess it wouldn't make sense till the last minute....Every token has a price based on it usability...the value here is that these tokens are non inflationary, they are a set number, and they are a used for decentralized decision making see boardroom.io. Plus there are multiple Dapps(not just Pokereum) that will return value (ie some will call this dividends) to these one set of tokens...More so the price of each token is been set by the last backers (some are anonynous, others have made it know, see above) just like the last price of a coin when you buy it on an exchange...

There is a builtin plan to reward work contribution which will be public soon, so there are different ways of acquiring the tokens. ie you can help keep a list of interested parties? there there is a reward schedule for that... hope it helps

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