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10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« on: June 18, 2014, 02:31:04 pm »

After reading threads about Nxt on BTT I noticed one guy - TaunSew. His writing style (wording and political ideas) sounds very similar to the style of another guy - UtopianFuture. Quick check of their stats showed that it can be the same guy - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=182582;sa=statPanel and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=230227;sa=statPanel. More interesting that his speech when he writes nonsense about Nxt is similar to speech of that UF's sockpuppet he was caught using.

I'm on vacation now and my abilities r very limited, so I decided to put a bounty of 10'000 NXT for analysis that will confirm or counter the claim that UtopianFuture and TaunSew is the same person. Anyone who is interested in the reward must post there their analysis till 27th of June. After I'm back home I'll pay the money to one who provides the best from my PoV analysis.
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2014, 02:38:35 pm »

Yeah, my analysis: You are more often right than wrong. So he's UP.

Let's see who can make a better analysis. Right now, the 10,000 goes to me ;D
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2014, 02:47:48 pm »

I don't think it's him, UP always writes "Nxt", never "NxT", TaunSwe uses almost always "NxT". My 10k ;)
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2014, 02:49:12 pm »

This post proves it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651057.msg7361552#msg7361552


Quote from: ShroomsKit_Disgrace
Quote from: TaunSew
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TaunSew = UtopianFuture = 3000NEM stakeholders.

As well as other issues  :D
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2014, 02:57:05 pm »

I don't think it's him, UP always writes "Nxt", never "NxT", TaunSwe uses almost always "NxT". My 10k ;)

I have seen Nxters try to correct him with this, he does it deliberately to try to annoy.

But a rose by any other name would smell as sweet  ;D  "Not if you called it StinkBlossom. Or Crapweed." - The Simpsons  :D :D :D
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2014, 03:59:18 pm »

Im confident they are not the same person.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2014, 12:31:39 am by Steve »
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2014, 04:29:03 pm »

Reserved.. I think this might take a lot
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2014, 04:38:50 pm »

I'm on vacation now and my abilities r very limited, so I decided to put a bounty of 10'000 NXT for analysis that will confirm or counter the claim that UtopianFuture and TaunSew is the same person.

Hi CfB, ok. Is utopianfuture from Canada (I thought Russia, don't know where I picked this up)? Here's what I did in four images:

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Have a nice vacation.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2014, 12:14:01 pm by instacash »
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2014, 05:11:58 pm »

A few interesting posts about TS of which he deleted some(all?) on Bitcointalk for unknown reasons:

Using bitcointa.lk archive:

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/is-college-worth-it-so-many-graduates-in-debt-underemployed.284318/page-3#post-5692948
=> he was born between 1980-2000, probably 1990ish

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/nem-nem-new-economy-movement-no-envy-movement-updates-discussion-thread.242825/page-245#post-5714321
=> he claims having requested one NEM stake in total

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/nem-nem-new-economy-movement-no-envy-movement-updates-discussion-thread.242825/page-245#post-5713180
=> he registered on BCT for the NEMstake, which explains his first post.

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/is-college-worth-it-so-many-graduates-in-debt-underemployed.284318/page-3#post-5696547
=> he has a degree

random:
dox.log shows he's using SGH-I337M == Samsung Galaxy S4. He was browsing from this device without any proxy using his local IP.


addendum:
  if UP's claim back in December 2013 is correct, he's from Massachusetts, MA:
  https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,28.msg8236.html#msg8236
« Last Edit: June 28, 2014, 09:27:16 am by instacash »
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2014, 05:48:28 pm »

i am looking at conducting speech analyzis.

~CfA~
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2014, 06:14:08 pm »

i am looking at conducting speech analyzis.

~CfA~

Lol, I'd put money on it that you ARE Taunsew  :D
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2014, 06:16:14 pm »

instacash, what app is that to view the code? Looks like Sublime Text with Yosemite?
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2014, 06:27:54 pm »

Sublime Text with Yosemite?

Yeah, almost: TextMate 2.0 + Yosemite

=> http://i.imgur.com/9OhniAy.png
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2014, 06:30:10 pm »

i am looking at conducting speech analyzis.

~CfA~
I'm also taking a look at pure text analysis on the posts of UF and TaunSew.
My impression has always been, up until now, that UF and TaunSew are not the same person.

I've been doing a small amount of research on text analysis, and it does seem to be a fairly powerful tool, but it is best suited to proving a negative: ie that A and B are not the same person. Proving that A is B via text analysis alone is a lot more difficult, if not impossible.

Give me a few hours and I'll come up with an initial conclusion, then we can discuss my fee...... ::)
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2014, 06:32:04 pm »

I feel certain that UF is not TS after my investigation.

Looking forward to more community input as well as the next bounty: identify and prove potential existence of actual Bitcointalk alts/sockpuppets of utopianfuture other than ghosthouse .. . anyone? ;D

(I am not against NEM, just having fun)
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2014, 09:02:49 pm »

Not the same person. TaunSew used a word a couple of time "$hitcoin" never used by UF
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2014, 09:08:43 pm »

I don't think it's him, UP always writes "Nxt", never "NxT", TaunSwe uses almost always "NxT". My 10k ;)

I totally agree with you that UP and TS are not the same person. I just wanted to bring up again who concluded that first...  ;D
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2014, 09:14:20 pm »

Not the same person. TaunSew used a word a couple of time "$hitcoin" never used by UF
I don't think it's him, UP always writes "Nxt", never "NxT", TaunSwe uses almost always "NxT". My 10k ;)

Eadeqa & cc001, I agree with your conclusion. However, we should never forget that merely analysing speech doesn't say all too much: one can select a certain way of writing on purpose to appear as a different person. For this very reason I chose and endorse a different approach not relying merely on speech analysis.
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2014, 09:31:35 pm »

Yep....I'm voting for UF not being TaunSew.

After some not very deep analysis of around 1000 words of text from both accounts, using:
http://textalyser.net/index.php?lang=en
I can find almost no similarities between the two.

The only connection I can find is that both are not native English speakers, though TaunSew has a much better command of English.

That's it, my conclusion is that Utopianfuture is not TaunSew.
(I cant be 100% certain on this, but it is very difficult for people to consistently fake their writing style, so I'm going for 95% certainty)
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Re: 10'000 NXT for speech analysis
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2014, 09:39:30 pm »

(I cant be 100% certain on this, but it is very difficult for people to consistently fake their writing style, so I'm going for 95% certainty)
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