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Nxt General Discussion / Re: Decentralized Digital Goods
« on: June 13, 2014, 10:55:05 am »
Okay, let's put it this way. Take what anon is doing with silver, what prevents anybody from doing the same with drugs? What prevents somebody to use the encrypted AM (when they will be) to communicate with assassins/terrorists? Should we remove AM and AE?

My point being, if SilkRoad wants to build their system on top on Nxt they can do it regardless of DGS and there is nothing you could do about it. By its very nature, Nxt as a platform (and all its features AM, AE, DGS, ... ) are neutral. The moment you start putting constraints (not that you could), the whole idea of a decentralized crypto falls. How do you enforce these constraints? Who gets to decide what is "good" for the image (whatever that means) and what is not?

It is a whole package deal. Either you offer a platform (Nxt) knowing someone will abuse it and you count on the fact that the majority will not or you do not offer it at all. I am afraid there is no middle ground. People sell drugs and weapons using Fiat, does that undermine dollars? If a centralized system failed at addressing this issue, expecting a decentralized system to do it seems rather silly.

If the dark market decides to move to Nxt they already can and there is nothing we can do about it. I do not like it either, but this is the cost of a decentralized system.

Nxt Helpdesk / Re: Why two different Account Numbers?
« on: June 13, 2014, 09:52:56 am »
They represent both the same "information". The NXT-... is the same as the ID but expressed in Reed Solomon format which among other things has these benefits:

1. It can handle up to 2 typos, not that you should purposefully type it wrong, but if you write one or two wrong digits, your funds will still go to the designated account. It is not infallible but it gives an additional layer of "confidence".
2. It is easier to read. A long string of numbers is not the easiest thing to read/digit, you leave a digit behind or type one wrong and your transaction goes to somebody else.

more info:

Nxt General Discussion / Re: Decentralized Digital Goods
« on: June 13, 2014, 09:01:14 am »
weapons, drugs
digital goods.

Besides, even if somebody were to sell this kind of stuff, it is not anybody's business. As far as I understood it, 1 account is 1 shop. You will not see anything unless you specifically want to (in other words, unless you "add" the vendor's shop to your list pretty much as you now have to add an "asset" in order to trade it. Sure, those would come up by searching the whole blockchain (I guess ? not even sure exactly what you would "see") but it honestly seems to be a non-problem. DGS is a tool, you are not forcing stuff down people's throats. If they do not like it, they simply will not use it. It is like saying I do not like Arbitrary Messages because somebody will curse on them.

Now, the only reason I would understand their feelings towards DGS is either:
1. They have not really understood what DGS is.
2. DGS will allow people to offer a better service than their system does, so it is either laziness or greed.

Now, do we have to stop the development of DGS because "some people" fall into these two categories? I see absolutely no reason why. Some will love it, other will not. Nxt does not depend on these specific individuals IMHO, you cannot please everybody either way.

Nxt Community News and Announcements / Re: NXT.org is live!
« on: June 13, 2014, 08:39:11 am »
Could someone please take the time to fix the outdated info on the site as suggested in this thread? It has been weeks now. If there needs to be something up to date is this.

Just to be clear, whatever the implementation, by default there would be nothing right? It is up to the user to search, download, install these plugins right? There is no list of "preloaded" plugins, right?

In theory the block time is 60s, in practice more like 90s. Considering the current low number of daily transactions, it is not that bad that it takes longer, it decreases the number of empty blocks wasting space on the blockchain.
Either way, it is an average. So 10 minute blocks will happen and so will 10 second ones. If you are curious about the forging algorithm you can read this: https://nxtforum.org/proof-of-stake-algorithm/forging-2088/

Nxt General Discussion / Re: Forging confusion/bug
« on: June 07, 2014, 04:50:55 pm »
Chances are you are on a fork, what is the latest block number? It should be 155752 or around that.

Nxt Whitepaper Discussion / Re: How Exactly...
« on: June 06, 2014, 06:10:46 pm »
DoctorEvil made a review of Curve25519. Cannot find it right now. Anybody has the link?

Nxt Whitepaper Discussion / Re: How Exactly...
« on: June 06, 2014, 05:56:05 pm »

and a few others. The info is mostly outdated/scattered/unfinished hence the necessity to prepare a proper one.

General / Re: Up-to-date Peers
« on: June 06, 2014, 04:10:07 pm »
Same here, not bad considering even the main site is not up to date, it still mentions the 1.1.3.
However I honestly think something should be done about peers that are not up to date. The client says I am currently connected with a client NRS 0.4.7e. Like, really?
Could this be the reason of the recent problems where new users, downloading the blockchain for the first time, end up in forks?

I think the client should not allow to receive data from clients that have a version prior to a hard fork. I still see plenty of 0.4.x, 0.7.x and 0.8.x. I am connected to a good number of them. They should not appear on my peer list, much less being connected with them. Maybe I am not really communicating with them, but they definitely take up one of the 20 slots.

Peers I am connected to:
1.1.4 = 10 peers
1.1.3 = 2 peers
1.1.2 = 1 peer
1.0.1 = 1 peer
0.8.13 = 1 peer
0.7.6 = 1 peer
0.7.4 = 1 peer
0.6.0 = 1 peer
0.5.5 = 1 peer
0.4.7e = 1 peer

Nxt is like Solar Freakin' Roadways!!!


I honestly hope not, from an engineering perspective is bad on so many levels it makes me cry.

Nxt General Discussion / Re: FORGING Question
« on: June 06, 2014, 02:32:17 am »
You can lease your forging power to someone or a forging pool.
Of the three options the most cost-effective is the raspberry pi. It requires very little effort to maintain.

Nxt General Discussion / Re: Development visibility
« on: June 05, 2014, 04:26:00 pm »
The reason is private is because of what happened with wesley's client and AE. Clones do not give a damn if things are tested, if they are ready and safe, they thrive on "new stuff". NXT does not have that luxury. Keep it open source entirely during the development phase and by the time DGS is fully prepared and ready to be shipped and there are already 10 out there.
I do not like it either, but I see why this is necessary for now.

What I hope is that at least we will have a middle-ground. So 1 week before every release there should be a test version, regardless of the amount of content changed, where all the changes in the source code should be available. So that we can test it properly for 1 week before making the change on the main net. Simply for security concerns, they are a bunch of bright people but they are not infallible either, I doubt they have the time to test it out properly and that would be a waste given how many people are willing to help out.

Old Nxt Promotion Topics / Re: [HELP] ShareXcoin Exchange voting!
« on: June 05, 2014, 05:31:23 am »
Something does not add up, he went through the hassle (figuratively speaking) to add NXT to leave it running for one day? NXT the little it stayed there had 1 btc of volume, Qora around 20 if I remember correctly. If that was the purpose he clearly knows how to waste time efficiently. It just seems odd.

Nxt General Discussion / Re: The Nxt Wiki WorkThread
« on: June 05, 2014, 04:36:32 am »
It seems to be a day of surprises, thanks a lot!  :D

Nxt Community News and Announcements / Re: NXT.org is live!
« on: June 04, 2014, 11:37:25 pm »
So, to make things easier, who would be best to contact directly next time?

Nop, you clearly were on a fork, your blockchain is 500 blocks ahead. How you got there I do not know, but the last block as of few seconds ago is the 153'517, your screenshot shows 154'047.
The balance is shown straight away, with blocks being generated on average every minute that is. You can be unlucky and end up waiting for a slow block though. However if you wanted to forge with those coins in theory you would need 1440 confirmations. That does not imply you cannot spend them before though.

Nxt Community News and Announcements / Re: NXT.org is live!
« on: June 04, 2014, 10:15:55 pm »
Also, we should probably add sharexcoin.com (which for some reason is currently down) to the list of exchanges.

Nxt General Discussion / Re: Units of Nxt
« on: June 04, 2014, 09:47:02 pm »
NQT was always meant to be temporary, in the end they may simply end up being referred as quants. Which is just fine if you ask me.

Nxt Asset Exchange / Re: Asset richlist
« on: June 04, 2014, 09:25:08 pm »
If I understood correctly what he wants, he is looking for the list of the asset holders for a specific asset. By using jl777's script to pay dividends you should be achieve the same result, from there you can know how much every asset holder has.
Did I understand correctly?

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