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Trading & Exchanges / Re: DGEX shares
« on: March 22, 2016, 08:08:47 am »
DGEX shares can now be withdrawn from DGEX accounts to the NXT Asset Exchange, where they can be sold against our remaining buy wall of 16.5 NXT a piece.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: DGEX shares
« on: March 16, 2016, 02:21:34 pm »
I'll take the 200 bucks return on 10000
The DGEX share buyback is about 16% of the original price. That's a respectable level considering the circumstances, there have been much worse "deals" on the NXT AE.

If you get 1/50 of the USD value you used to buy DGEX shares back in the age, blaming me for that fully is delusional. You do realize BTC value decreased -50% and NXT rate declined -85%? Combine those and you would have lost more than 90% of your investment in the case DGEX share price remained stable. Or you would have lost about 70% of your USD if the DGEX share price tripled during the two years, due to the BTC and NXT vs. USD rates.

It's so easy to blame someone for your own failures.

any updates ?
Please have a little more patience, the DGEX withdrawals will be enabled by the end of this week.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: DGEX shares
« on: March 07, 2016, 08:11:31 am »
It should again be possible to withdraw DGEX shares to NXT Asset Exchange within approximately a week from now. The share buyback period will be extended to offer the late withdrawals sufficient time to redeem.

ok with my other computer i can logged in... it is possible to make a withdrawal from dgex?
I don't think anyone managed to do it in ages.
Fortunately this time, that is a mislead thought. NXT and BTC withdrawals from DEGX accounts have been possible to submit all the time and are paid on more or less regular intervals. The latest payment was made on March 2nd.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: Whats going on with DGEX?
« on: December 31, 2015, 04:27:18 pm »
I have or had some NXT and shares in DGEX, but it seems I can't trade them now.
Do you know how I can get them out?

Latest info regarding shares: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=377.msg204749#msg204749

You can withdraw NXT normally on the DGEX site. Also shares withdrawal to NXT Asset Exchange, where you can sell them, should be possible.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: DGEX shares
« on: December 31, 2015, 04:25:17 pm »
As promised to be done by the end of 2015, DGEX has now submitted a buyback offer of 16.50 NXT each for all the outstanding 46,256 shares on the NXT exchange.

Opportunity to redeem shares still residing on the DGEX member site will be arranged promptly in January 2016.

This buyback offer is not necessarily final, but it could be. We are still venturing to arrange a more favorable resolution, most likely through exchange of shares to another business. If such arrangements go through, the value of each share would be expected to be higher than this buyback offer.

The buyback price of 16.50 NXT is evaluated on what we consider possible and a fair estimate, taking into account existing business liabilities and that a significant portion of customer funds are still outstanding at DGEX's custody. It is unknown what portion of these will eventually be claimed until DGEX closes the possibility. This could possibly give us some leeway in pursuing the eventual share exchange arrangements later for a better rate.

The buyback offer will remain as is on the NXT Decentralized Asset Exchange until at least March 31st 2016, after which it may be withdrawn at our discretion.

We wish all DGEX customers, followers, and the NXT owners Happy and Successful new year 2016!

Trading & Exchanges / Re: DGEX shares
« on: November 20, 2015, 03:06:36 pm »
I'm still waiting for a withdrawal of 52'000 NXT ordered by August 26. Graviton didn't give me any answer.
You have been replied to in the other thread.

Quote from: LibertyNow
But not really because we'll have another convenient excuse by then
I am not quite sure why you attempt to hasten us to use customer funds still in the system for making the share buyback offer. Maybe you think your share holdings are prioritized ahead of customers funds and that you would be entitled to be paid first? I can tell you they are not, and that DGEX settles customer holdings to a reasonable level before making the buyback offer for shareholders.

As for your other comments LibertyNow, I have told you this before in many different ways: DGEX was high risk business that thrived for a while, spiralled NXT from nothingness to its massive upswing that it's still descending from, raking hundreds of people beautiful profits, then DGEX failed. Not totally, as we are able to fulfill most customer obligations and even offer compensation for shareholders, but failed nevertheless like Icarus flying too high too quickly. You invested in business that failed. Like I did with some DGEX business choices, You especially made a failing business decision with your share purchase. There is no swindle involved (except for DGEX as the victim of numerous fraud cases, that were indeed the primary reason for its failure). You should really take due responsibility for your failure to invest your funds wisely. Let this long dragging "circus" settlement of shares be the learning of such responsibility for you, which - exceptionally in the crypto scene - will be completed decently in not too distant future.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: Whats going on with DGEX?
« on: November 20, 2015, 02:48:02 pm »
If he just could tell us what is happening
DGEX is clarifying its accounting and helping customers to withdraw their funds, to be able to decide about future operations and submit the buyback offer for shareholders.

someone else has actually deleted my account, hence the error message upon trying to reset my password.
Good conclusion but not quite there. No DGEX accounts are deleted, however I know of a couple dozen cases where accounts were breached into and their email address changed, from the time when the 2-factor login procedure with email confirmations was not implemented earlier in 2014. Please send me any details you have about your account to admin at dgex dot com and we will try to track it. Many of such hacked accounts were milked empty before we were able to intervene, but we also halted numerous withdrawals pending clarification.

I've been waiting for a withdrawal of 52'000 nxt since August 26th. Graviton didn't answer  any ticket i sent him.
We currently don't have any pending NXT withdrawals that we haven't requested clarification on. Please email details of your withdrawal, your dgex account number and email address to admin at dgex dot com and I will address your situation. The ticketing system has been for a long time working one way only, so that we can read tickets but can not respond to them.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: Whats going on with DGEX?
« on: November 08, 2015, 08:50:57 pm »
The email login procedure has been fixed since a few weeks already and withdrawals are processed at limited time intervals.

When do you think it will be extended to November and then when do you think it'll be extended to December?
Indeed, the withdrawal period has been extended for now, simply because customers have not, or haven't been able to withdraw their funds. Would you prefer the withdrawal period to be closed? Eventually it will be, but for now I have to be sorry we can't fulfill all of the strangest wishes of our customers :)

Trading & Exchanges / Re: DGEX shares
« on: November 08, 2015, 08:47:22 pm »
Shares buyback is delayed because customer withdrawals have not completed and we don't know the amount of funds available for proceeds. Buyback offer will be published probably this month, at the latest by the end of the year. It will not be a high offer, but we may offer an option for shareholders to carry their stake over to a new venture.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: Whats going on with DGEX?
« on: September 15, 2015, 05:47:54 pm »
The email verification system is malfunctioning since a while now. The withdrawal period has been extended to October so all customers will have a chance to access their DGEX balance when the email login procedure has been fixed.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: DGEX shares
« on: July 29, 2015, 08:43:32 pm »
Plans for the future are still open. The crypto exchange adventure has been exhausting. I might return to my other core competences of games production or other related opportunities. Exchanging is not out of the question totally, but centralized exchange entwined with the responsibility for customer funds likely is. Fortunately in these times we have a variety of possibilities, some of which may still be viable for such an old gaffer :)

In addition to the buyback offer (which will necessarily be at loss to most but those who have purchased from the market at some of the lower rates) to be posted for the holders of the DGEX virtual shares, I will attempt to arrange an alternative option to choose from.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: Whats going on with DGEX?
« on: July 29, 2015, 08:33:31 pm »
We have reactivated the old DGEX user interface and account logins are again operational.

All other functions except for Withdrawals, History and Contact have been disabled. Existing orders have been cancelled and funds returned to the user accounts. Unfortunately, trading on DGEX is over for now.

If you have funds at DGEX, please log in and submit a withdrawal by September 1st 2015. Withdrawals are paid weekly, apart from NAS which we still have trouble with. If the NAS blockchain works, we expect to be eventually able to honor all NAS withdrawals also.

If you have any trouble with your account you can again use the contact page on the site to submit a ticket that will be responded to when possible.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: Whats going on with DGEX?
« on: July 24, 2015, 09:31:52 am »
The current problems with the web site login screen are known. Standard web site logins will be again accessible in 3-4 days.

The DGEX virtual shares are currently traded on the NXT AE since about 1 year. Profits from withdrawal fees are still incurred and dividends from Q2 2015 are planned to be distributed to shareholders by August 15th. Like described earlier on this forum we will post a large buyback offer on the NXT AE this autumn, likely in September - October when all incoming withdrawals by then have been processed in full and the total amount of available funds for buyback is known.

Deadline for withdrawals will be extended to at least September 1st. Withdrawals are generally performed once a week.

DGEX has not yet decided whether to continue operations after the buyback is completed and in which form.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: DGEX shares
« on: June 25, 2015, 08:03:16 am »
is it possible to deactivate the miniumum whitdraw amount for NXT? I only have 156 NXT on DGEX but I don't want to spend you just 1 NXT for your bad performance in the last year!!!
Excuse me but I found that funny :)

The purpose of the fee is not "spending" for "our bad performance". If it was real fee, it would be the fee for storing your NXT securely for a length of time. But in the case where the fee is only 1 NXT, it is required as a transfer fee by the NXT network and the storage and DGEX services in that case are free. Even when we cannot offer the charity any more, at an earlier phase we opted to pay the transfer fee for thousands of payments from our own pockets. The answer to your question is no.

When is the buy share back start?
Share buyback offer will be published / posted on the NXT Asset Exchange after the summer when customers have withdrawn their funds, likely in September.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: Whats going on with DGEX?
« on: June 25, 2015, 07:51:21 am »
Hello folks. I do not frequent the nxtforum any more at this time. However abctc's quote of my previous post sums it up: DGEX is not actively operating exchange currently. Withdrawals are done approx. once a week until the end of July, maybe end of August, after which DGEX's current operations are taken offline for a while. Some form of business may continue. I said we will stop trading in May but it's not technically prevented, it's still possible to trade if you find a suitably priced counteroffer. Because there is no active staff, crediting deposits may easily take a week or two.

We are trying to enable NAS withdrawals when possible. NAS facilities on DGEX were dismantled long ago, the possibility of NAS blockchain resurrection was quite an unlikely anomaly indeed for which a business could not reasonably be prepared.

Jokes about DGEX have been around as long as the site itself. Unlike most of the crypto exchanges all of which stop operating at some point, all customer funds are intact and accessible and will be credited upon request, although not necessarily as quickly as one would prefer.

Why don't I use this forum much any more? One of the reasons can be directly seen from this thread; a guy receives several karma points for spamming the thread with a days counter of his deposit credit delay. In nutshell and no offense intended, too much unconstructive waste of time. Thank you.

Unfortunately it happened again. 14,503 FIMK deposit, message V4Q-3M5O, at 2015-06-09 11:03:44. Transaction 5345746889845581047. Still seat in dgex's wallet FIM-JAK4-3H54-S65C-B4P94.
11 days.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: Whats going on with DGEX?
« on: May 08, 2015, 07:17:41 pm »
Quote from: LibertyNow
Just a heads up, May 2nd was 5 days ago.

Dividends were announced on May 2nd here in the DGEX shares thread

They were paid last night.

History shows only these details in DGEX:
- Type
- Amount
- Date
Where can I see the account from / to the money was transferred?

Some details are available to DGEX staff from the backend when needed for closer inspection.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: DGEX shares
« on: May 08, 2015, 07:11:49 pm »
mean: 0.06096?
No, the amount is 0.60968 BTC but there was an error when converting that to NXT. The amounts have been amended. Dividends have been paid yesterday.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: DGEX updates
« on: May 02, 2015, 12:58:19 pm »
Profit statement for Q1 2015 and information about actions to come in 2015 have been posted here:


Trading & Exchanges / Re: DGEX shares
« on: May 02, 2015, 12:38:35 pm »
DGEX shareholder dividends for January, February and March 2015

Profit from Jan 1st through Mar 31st:

NXT fees accrued: 6348.17 NXT
FIMK fees accrued: 2794.16 FIMK
BTC fees accrued: 0.60968211 BTC

Gamule.com profits:

Dice: 544.73 NXT
        1028.98 FIMK

Cards: 238.08 NXT
         15519.38 FIMK

Ship: 8433.46 NXT
        1703.79 FIMK

FIMK fees converted to NXT @0.00000150 BTC / FIMK, @0.00004000 BTC / NXT: 789.24 NXT
BTC fees converted to NXT @ 0.00004000 BTC / NXT: 15242.05 NXT

Total fees accrued and converted to NXT: 31595.73 NXT

All profits have been converted to NXT and are paid in NXT only.

Profits will be distributed to shareholders unadjusted. All operating costs for the time period are absorbed by Graviton. Losses from July 2014 are carried over to the next period:

Total NXT left to compensate for the attack loss in July 2014: -1160117,61 NXT.
Total BTC left to compensate for the attack loss in July 2014: -43.727 BTC.

NXT profit per share: 17877.89 NXT / 330 000 shares = 0.0957 NXT / share

Dividends will be paid to the shareholder DGEX accounts NXT balance for those holders with shares still in the DGEX system.

AE shareholder profits will be paid to the NXT accounts of the shareholders.

Date for the distribution of profits: May 7th 2015

DGEX will temporarily stop trading on May 18th and will after that be considering buyback offer for any outstanding shares that will be published during August - September 2015.

Except for trading, the DGEX site will be operational also during the trading closure. During the time period from May 18th through July 31st all fund withdrawal requests will be honored weekly at the current rates. Withdrawal fees will be accrued and distributed to shareholders as usual, as will be any profits from the 50% ownership of gamule.com.

After July 31st 2015 the operations of DGEX will change considerably and withdrawal requests may or may not be honored as per the discretion and possibilities available for DGEX. In any case, due to the dismantlement of current operational facilities and standby accounts database the cost for fulfilling a cryptocurrency withdrawal after that date will be significant.

DGEX aims to purge and clear its customer reserves in order to start fresh with a new suite of services that involve direct p2p trading of cryptocurrencies, effectively eliminating the hazards of centralized exchange. Funds left on DGEX customer accounts on the old system will be used towards compensation of company losses, and towards the benefit of shareholders in the buyback / carryover offer in August - September 2015.

Trading & Exchanges / Re: Whats going on with DGEX?
« on: April 27, 2015, 11:39:10 am »
Earnings for Q1 2015 will be announced by May 2nd.

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