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Transparent Forging / Re: Transparent Forging - the latest info
« on: December 15, 2016, 03:03:31 pm »
I was skeptical, although silent about feasibility of transparent forging from the very beginning.
It's now about a year or more, since they say that TF needs Economic Clustering. Now my questions are:
1) How different is Economic Clustering from Ripple consensus system (at least as it was devised in 2011)
2) Since they are probably quite different, after all Ripple wasn't a PoS crypto, aren't those differences unnecessary superstructures complicating things over Economic Clustering trust layer?
3) Is TF still in plans for Ardor/Ignis?
It's now about a year or more, since they say that TF needs Economic Clustering. Now my questions are:
1) How different is Economic Clustering from Ripple consensus system (at least as it was devised in 2011)
Quote from: jed link=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=10193.0
Let’s say a node has a public key that the client generates for them. There is no connection between this key and a wallet key. It just allows you to be sure you are talking to the node you think you are.
So when you run a node you choose which other nodes you trust. So you could say “I trust my 3 friends’ nodes, Gavin’s node, and these 5 businesses’ nodes.” This trust just means that you believe these people will never participate in a double spend attack or otherwise manipulate the ledger.
The ledger would basically be like the current bitcoin block chain but it would also have a list of what nodes believe the current ledger to be valid. <hash of current ledger signed by node’s public key> (This list doesn’t have to be complete. Nodes can just collect this list as needed. They could even just ask the nodes they trust if they think the current ledger is valid since those are the only ones they care about)
Transactions are still sent to all nodes connected to the network. There would be a network wide timestamp. Transactions would only be accepted if they were within a certain time period of the network timestamp. So you would need to wait maybe 10min before you could fully trust a given transaction. After this waiting period you could be sure those coins weren’t double spent.
If a node ever encounters two conflicting ledgers it would just go with the one that was validated by more nodes that it trusts.
So there should always be a consensus among the trusted members of the network.
There would be a way to look up particular nodes in the network and ask them questions. (I’m imagining this whole thing running on Kademlia, a DHT)
2) Since they are probably quite different, after all Ripple wasn't a PoS crypto, aren't those differences unnecessary superstructures complicating things over Economic Clustering trust layer?
3) Is TF still in plans for Ardor/Ignis?