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Quote from: XIII on November 09, 2015, 06:50:51 am

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Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on November 09, 2015, 05:20:23 am

If Supernet splits from NXT, it'll be Supernet that fails not NXT.

SuperNET is not going to 'split' from NXT. SuperNET will natively implement some functionality that it is currently accessing on the NXT API.

The assets and the fee, dividend and revenue stream structures remain.

Well why is James "rage selling" his NXT?

As was talked on slack, he is emotionally trying to show, that he can dump the price significantly, so this is a protest to core devs. Also consider the price of this millions, now he bids 20K NXT for BTC, no one will buy that, so for now this is just a protest.

A little hotheaded over an API change don't you think?  His blackmail attempts don't inspire a lot of confidence in him or his software.  Maybe we should just play out this game of mutually assured destruction that he's started and anybody who holds his assets should dump them.  A lot more NXTers hold his "assets" than he holds NXT.  Let's push the button and see who survives.  Hint: It won't be James or Supernet.

No, I think the truth is in remarks from both sides - core devs have made a mistake while changing API and so giving a reason to eveyone not to believe NXT at all and not to build serious corporative platforms on top of it. They should be considered like guys who have largest NXT stakes, so they are feeling technical and economical power (but saying that I am not going to hurt them, I respect their continous hardworking on the core features). And I should say, this facts could kill NXT. Like mentionally-caught parents could kill their child with infinite love.

Second side is James. He is advanced and very creative, open-mind dev of SuperNET, which could be considered like "such large corporative project on top of nxt" which is very useful and important for NXT platform. And after changing API - it fails. There is no matter, whether it is easy to fix or not (this is the argues of core devs, that the fixing is extremley simple). Now his work is failed due to risk of API changing, it will take him more work to fix the code and to put away some technical nxt dependancies.

SO. It is clear, that James is very important to our community, and thus, to a price o NXT, James will not leave SuperNET from NXT completley it is for sure, but this act of selling 20M nxt - is an act of protest and demand for core devs to mention and to respect the users of the core (cause building a systems on top of the nxt - it is also - a "using a system" of NXT). But his dumping... Don't like this to be real dump

So there is no need to talk about is he survives after his dump. I also think, that it is crucial for one man to rebuild the SuperNET, it is crucial for everybody - cause NXT platform and SuperNET - are losing clients and investors both. I think the way of both sides is to respect  each other and produce a synergy, not competition.

James is being too emotional and showing his immaturity.  He is costing NXT and SuperNet investors money because he is upset.  All of his investors are NXT investors also.  How is intentionally trying to suppress the price in anyone's best interest?

James is obviously too immature to handle this situation and the amount of money under his control.  I will never purchase an asset that is associated with James and if I hear anyone else thinking about purchasing any of his assets, I will strongly warn them against it.  James is only hurting himself with these hissy fits.  NXT will survive; James won't.

I would have found it a little easier to believe that BTER was really hacked before their involvement in the BitBay scam came out.  Now that they are blatantly involved in other scams and thefts, you'd have to be an idiot to trust them and take their word as the truth.

I'm going to start a rumor.  The reason the Supernet IPO needs to be so big is that lots of LTC needs to be acquired before its rapid rise.  LTC will be putting NXT Inside, in order to add 2.0 features and stave off its demise.

disclaimer: I am inventing this rumor.  I've got no information about this.  I'm not even buying LTC myself.

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Quote from: mikesbmw on August 20, 2014, 08:18:09 am

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Btw: do you have enough NXT in your accounts for everyone to withdraw?

It is well known that they are 8M short.  This fee reduces the incentive to withdraw, and gives BTER some time to earn this 8M.

Is it well known? Where does Bter state that they are short 8m NXT?

domsch, aren't you the nxthaus guy? I might be confusing the name. What happened to nxthaus?

A hard fork can only hurt NXT for several reasons:

1.  The public needs to know that their NXT are fungible.

2.  If we hard fork now, what about the people who got hacked for much less NXT?  The public needs to know that their 1 NXT has the same "value" as another person that has 50 million of them.  If not this will defeat the purpose of having a crypto currency.

3.  Worst of all, major supporters/promoters/evangelists etc of NXT will abandon ship because NXT will no longer have credibility because at any time, one individual or party can come in and force the community to fork.

It's tragic that bter lost 50 million nxt in the short term... to ensure the long term survival of NXT, we can not afford to hard fork.

For these reasons and many others I DO NOT support a hard fork of the NXT blockchain.

Enjoy.
Tai Zen

james is a machine and a gentleman.