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SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« on: December 02, 2014, 04:06:44 am »

Follow the evolution of FinHive at: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?board=143.0


[Dividend Announcement] Saturday at 1400 GMT to SuperNET and NXTventure assetholders, followed by a passthrough of the InstantDEX portion of the NXTventure dividends.

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What SuperNET would be complete without a SkyNET?

Combine cutting edge AI techniques with blockchain technology.

Now in the realworld, companies in this space are getting some crazy funding: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-24/ai-startup-sentient-raises-103-5-million-in-funding.html

Not saying that SkyNET will be in the same league as the above, we will have to wait to see what SkyNET thinks

James

P.S. 128 votes needed to release the SkyNET dividend


WARNING: By supporting this asset you could well be supporting the end of the world as we know it
http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/3/5965099/elon-musk-compares-artificial-intelligence-to-nukes

and is it a coincidence that this appears today?
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/stephen-hawking-artificial-intelligence-could-150024478.html

asset id: 6854596569382794790

Blockchain agreement txids 17121561730737863232 and 8809916241760899104
SkyNET and FinHive agree to the following:
1. FinHive has made an agreement with SkyNET to become a wholly owned subsidiary of SkyNET
2. In exchange for 45% of SkyNET and 4.5 million NXT, Finhive will work on the referenced plans
3. All future revenues from Finhive operations will flow through SkyNET
4. revenues in excess of operating costs will be distributed as dividends to SkyNET assetholders
5. referenced plans: http://finhive.com/roadmap.html


#### original OP
Another asset dividend will come out in December. This is a surprise asset not currently in the pipeline.

Not sure if I should say what it is yet...

James

P.S. It will be a dual SuperNET/NXTventure dividend
« Last Edit: December 08, 2014, 08:14:17 pm by jl777 »
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Re: reserved
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2014, 04:07:24 am »

reserved
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Re: reserved
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2014, 04:08:56 am »

reserved
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2014, 06:13:59 am »

yes  ;)

just one ? it´s near christmas  ;D
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2014, 06:15:40 am »

yes  ;)

just one ? it´s near christmas  ;D
The timing on the ones in the pipeline is unknown, but there will be at least this one, assuming it gets enough votes to be released

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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2014, 07:00:40 am »

Voted  :D

How many votes until Christmas?
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2014, 10:34:37 am »

Watching
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2014, 12:11:26 pm »

I like the combination of democracy and mystery, James! Thanks for the last couple of dividends, by the way! Tremendous work.
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2014, 04:54:57 pm »

superHODL?
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2014, 05:07:47 pm »

superHODL?
no, this asset has not been issued yet
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2014, 05:08:54 pm »

It seems that "now" is losing, so maybe the details will be released "later" instead of "now"
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2014, 05:53:37 pm »

yes/now is not enough choice, James. How about

• yes
• hell yes
• no
• maybe
• now
• not now
• not no
• later
• never

?

Then you'll really know what we're thinking.
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2014, 06:15:45 pm »

1.5 million NXT worth of the mystery asset sold out via special offer to SuperNET slackers

Now the only way to get it will be via SuperNET/NXTventure dividend or on the open market

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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2014, 06:43:12 pm »

1.5 million NXT worth of the mystery asset sold out via special offer to SuperNET slackers

Now the only way to get it will be via SuperNET/NXTventure dividend or on the open market

James

So, what is this asset about? :)
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2014, 07:51:58 pm »


P.S. It will be a dual SuperNET/NXTventure dividend

why not differ in:

- The dividends are NxtVentures

- The dividends are Supernet

I have both but one should distinguish.
Why should I buy NxtVenture if Supernet offers the same but have more potential in it...?
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2014, 08:02:56 pm »


P.S. It will be a dual SuperNET/NXTventure dividend

why not differ in:

- The dividends are NxtVentures

- The dividends are Supernet

I have both but one should distinguish.
Why should I buy NxtVenture if Supernet offers the same but have more potential in it...?
SuperNET is more expensive so there is a premium paid for this extra potential. Also I think there are some things happening behind the scenes that could make SuperNET quite a bit more expensive, so these days where the premium is so small are limited.

The NXTventure represents the part of SuperNET that does these dividends and allows people to get just that part of SuperNET.

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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2014, 08:08:27 pm »


P.S. It will be a dual SuperNET/NXTventure dividend

why not differ in:

- The dividends are NxtVentures

- The dividends are Supernet

I have both but one should distinguish.
Why should I buy NxtVenture if Supernet offers the same but have more potential in it...?
SuperNET is more expensive so there is a premium paid for this extra potential. Also I think there are some things happening behind the scenes that could make SuperNET quite a bit more expensive, so these days where the premium is so small are limited.

The NXTventure represents the part of SuperNET that does these dividends and allows people to get just that part of SuperNET.

James

Also the Price of NXTventure minus the NAV of NXTventure is really small. So the premium you pay for the dividend part is really small and extremely profitable (IMO) more so than SuperNET, but SuperNET offers much more additional stuff that make it more interesting.

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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2014, 08:10:40 pm »


P.S. It will be a dual SuperNET/NXTventure dividend

why not differ in:

- The dividends are NxtVentures

- The dividends are Supernet

I have both but one should distinguish.
Why should I buy NxtVenture if Supernet offers the same but have more potential in it...?
SuperNET is more expensive so there is a premium paid for this extra potential. Also I think there are some things happening behind the scenes that could make SuperNET quite a bit more expensive, so these days where the premium is so small are limited.

The NXTventure represents the part of SuperNET that does these dividends and allows people to get just that part of SuperNET.

James

Also the Price of NXTventure minus the NAV of NXTventure is really small. So the premium you pay for the dividend part is really small and extremely profitable (IMO) more so than SuperNET, but SuperNET offers much more additional stuff that make it more interesting.
If you have to choose between a hot blonde and a sexy brunette, what to do?

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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2014, 08:19:23 pm »


P.S. It will be a dual SuperNET/NXTventure dividend

why not differ in:

- The dividends are NxtVentures

- The dividends are Supernet

I have both but one should distinguish.
Why should I buy NxtVenture if Supernet offers the same but have more potential in it...?
SuperNET is more expensive so there is a premium paid for this extra potential. Also I think there are some things happening behind the scenes that could make SuperNET quite a bit more expensive, so these days where the premium is so small are limited.

The NXTventure represents the part of SuperNET that does these dividends and allows people to get just that part of SuperNET.

James

Also the Price of NXTventure minus the NAV of NXTventure is really small. So the premium you pay for the dividend part is really small and extremely profitable (IMO) more so than SuperNET, but SuperNET offers much more additional stuff that make it more interesting.
If you have to choose between a hot blonde and a sexy brunette, what to do?

James

i take the red lady time to make a new asset   ;D
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2014, 08:20:40 pm »


P.S. It will be a dual SuperNET/NXTventure dividend

why not differ in:

- The dividends are NxtVentures

- The dividends are Supernet

I have both but one should distinguish.
Why should I buy NxtVenture if Supernet offers the same but have more potential in it...?
SuperNET is more expensive so there is a premium paid for this extra potential. Also I think there are some things happening behind the scenes that could make SuperNET quite a bit more expensive, so these days where the premium is so small are limited.

The NXTventure represents the part of SuperNET that does these dividends and allows people to get just that part of SuperNET.

James

Also the Price of NXTventure minus the NAV of NXTventure is really small. So the premium you pay for the dividend part is really small and extremely profitable (IMO) more so than SuperNET, but SuperNET offers much more additional stuff that make it more interesting.
If you have to choose between a hot blonde and a sexy brunette, what to do?

James

Trying to not wake up.

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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2014, 08:23:51 pm »


P.S. It will be a dual SuperNET/NXTventure dividend

why not differ in:

- The dividends are NxtVentures

- The dividends are Supernet

I have both but one should distinguish.
Why should I buy NxtVenture if Supernet offers the same but have more potential in it...?
SuperNET is more expensive so there is a premium paid for this extra potential. Also I think there are some things happening behind the scenes that could make SuperNET quite a bit more expensive, so these days where the premium is so small are limited.

The NXTventure represents the part of SuperNET that does these dividends and allows people to get just that part of SuperNET.

James

Also the Price of NXTventure minus the NAV of NXTventure is really small. So the premium you pay for the dividend part is really small and extremely profitable (IMO) more so than SuperNET, but SuperNET offers much more additional stuff that make it more interesting.
If you have to choose between a hot blonde and a sexy brunette, what to do?

James

Trying to not wake up.

Haha, nice one
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2014, 09:01:49 pm »

Also I think there are some things happening behind the scenes that could make SuperNET quite a bit more expensive, so these days where the premium is so small are limited.

Still hoping that 2014 bonus works out for you (it will work out quite well for us, too).
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2014, 10:49:46 pm »

Also I think there are some things happening behind the scenes that could make SuperNET quite a bit more expensive, so these days where the premium is so small are limited.

Still hoping that 2014 bonus works out for you (it will work out quite well for us, too).
It would take at least 100 BTC to get to the price needed, so not sure if that sort of influx is realistic during this bear market. No matter, I will continue to do what I can to help SuperNET. With almost 200 people in the slack, this is so much more than just me now, so I know it is just a matter of time.

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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2014, 10:50:16 pm »

People with detective skills can now figure out more about the mystery asset and post here.

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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2014, 10:59:13 pm »

Is it NXThaus ?  ???
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2014, 11:09:32 pm »

6854596569382794790

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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2014, 11:12:27 pm »

SKYnet ! LOL
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2014, 11:13:42 pm »

ultraNet?!? lol  ;)
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2014, 11:14:30 pm »

Didn't Coinomat talk about a neural net bot?
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2014, 11:28:39 pm »

Didn't Coinomat talk about a neural net bot?

This mystery asset in itself is not trading bot, but the foundation for one (and many other things)

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2014, 12:19:46 am »

Voted yes  :)
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2014, 12:23:05 am »

No fair. The vote reset.
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2014, 02:20:23 am »

What SuperNET would be complete without a SkyNET?

Combine cutting edge AI techniques with blockchain technology.

Now in the realworld, companies in this space are getting some crazy funding: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-24/ai-startup-sentient-raises-103-5-million-in-funding.html

Not saying that SkyNET will be in the same league as the above, we will have to wait to see what SkyNET thinks

James

P.S. 128 votes needed to release the SkyNET dividend, the vote was reset as it is a new poll


WARNING: By supporting this asset you could well be supporting the end of the world as we know it
http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/3/5965099/elon-musk-compares-artificial-intelligence-to-nukes

and is it a coincidence that this appears today?
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/stephen-hawking-artificial-intelligence-could-150024478.html
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« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2014, 02:29:41 am »

yes
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2014, 02:48:24 am »


P.S. It will be a dual SuperNET/NXTventure dividend

why not differ in:

- The dividends are NxtVentures

- The dividends are Supernet

I have both but one should distinguish.
Why should I buy NxtVenture if Supernet offers the same but have more potential in it...?
SuperNET is more expensive so there is a premium paid for this extra potential. Also I think there are some things happening behind the scenes that could make SuperNET quite a bit more expensive, so these days where the premium is so small are limited.

The NXTventure represents the part of SuperNET that does these dividends and allows people to get just that part of SuperNET.

James

Also the Price of NXTventure minus the NAV of NXTventure is really small. So the premium you pay for the dividend part is really small and extremely profitable (IMO) more so than SuperNET, but SuperNET offers much more additional stuff that make it more interesting.
If you have to choose between a hot blonde and a sexy brunette, what to do?

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Sexy brunette  :-X
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2014, 03:35:44 am »

Is anyone else sort of put off by skynet, its like were asking for trouble by way of selfaware computing.

but its James so he can make self aware ai that destroys the world profitable for shareholders at least  ;D
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2014, 03:48:26 am »

Is anyone else sort of put off by skynet, its like were asking for trouble by way of selfaware computing.

but its James so he can make self aware ai that destroys the world profitable for shareholders at least  ;D

it's an inevitable/unavoidable component of human evolution
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2014, 05:21:55 am »

The servant becomes the master

Even malicious code is probably nicer than central bankers
« Last Edit: December 03, 2014, 05:27:38 am by maurover »
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2014, 05:35:02 am »

Even malicious code is probably nicer than central bankers

that basically describes why cryptocurrencies exist.
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2014, 05:38:22 am »

I, for one, welcome our new AI overlord!

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2014, 06:57:39 am »

could be the skynet of several trading bots asset, backed by the supernet  ???
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2014, 08:29:55 am »

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2014, 10:01:18 am »

James could you give some description what you have in mind with SkyNET? I've been doing neural nets for years, this is a very interesting topic for me, something incredible can come out of the neural blockchains :)
Actually neural nets can be computed in a distributed way very efficiently, probably you can even do mining through training classical backpropogation nets, this is the same kind of repetitive calculations as calculating hashes.
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2014, 10:08:43 am »

James could you give some description what you have in mind with SkyNET? I've been doing neural nets for years, this is a very interesting topic for me, something incredible can come out of the neural blockchains :)
Actually neural nets can be computed in a distributed way very efficiently, probably you can even do mining through training classical backpropogation nets, this is the same kind of repetitive calculations as calculating hashes.

Is NODE choose their path of neural nets?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg9699682#msg9699682
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2014, 11:03:30 am »

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2014, 11:26:35 am »

voted yes   ;)
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2014, 11:47:24 am »

voted yes on the condition you add an 'upload me' to the list of features.
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2014, 12:09:47 pm »

So is this about the idea of using the blockchain to establish consensus for giving instructions to distributed bots to create emergent intelligence?
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Re: Asset Dividend coming in December
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2014, 06:21:49 pm »

People with detective skills can now figure out more about the mystery asset and post here.

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2014, 07:10:44 pm »

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2014, 08:29:03 pm »

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2014, 10:37:12 pm »

James could you give some description what you have in mind with SkyNET? I've been doing neural nets for years, this is a very interesting topic for me, something incredible can come out of the neural blockchains :)
Actually neural nets can be computed in a distributed way very efficiently, probably you can even do mining through training classical backpropogation nets, this is the same kind of repetitive calculations as calculating hashes.
NN only seem to work well when the training data doesnt have discontinuities, or even not large higher order derivatives. I prefer to use SVMs.

Anyway, now SkyNET is approved for release, more details will be coming soon.

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2014, 09:16:30 am »

I thought that the word "Skynet" was protected by hard copyright rules  ::)
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2014, 09:51:48 am »

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2014, 11:48:27 am »

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2014, 02:36:39 pm »

just googled "SkyNET" and "AI". Found this:

http://home.comcast.net/~chatterbot/bots/AI/SkynetV5/#

... wow  8)
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2014, 03:12:21 pm »

just googled "SkyNET" and "AI". Found this:

http://home.comcast.net/~chatterbot/bots/AI/SkynetV5/#

... wow  8)

AI: What is your best feature?
USER:Talking to AI
AI: How do you think you could tell when your computer is more intelligent than you?
USER:Can you?
AI: With your help, I can do anything.
USER:Are you sure? How much is the cheapest 1Tb HDD on newegg?
AI: All sensors indicate that I am correct in my assessment.

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2014, 03:23:25 pm »

reminds me of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

Some innovations take a while...  ;D

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2014, 04:04:38 pm »

reminds me of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

Some innovations take a while...  ;D

Oh wow, I remember that (not the first time around, though, I'm not that old). Even made a version myself at school using qbasic, I think... I called it Melvin.
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2014, 06:14:02 pm »

sry if I missed it, is skyNET just superNET or also nxtVenture dividend?

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2014, 06:19:52 pm »

sry if I missed it, is skyNET just superNET or also nxtVenture dividend?

both but the exact distribution I do not know
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #63 on: December 04, 2014, 06:33:46 pm »

I thought that the word "Skynet" was protected by hard copyright rules  ::)

"Skynet"  "SkyNXT"

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #64 on: December 04, 2014, 06:38:10 pm »

sry if I missed it, is skyNET just superNET or also nxtVenture dividend?
75,000 -> SuperNET assetholders
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #65 on: December 04, 2014, 06:38:48 pm »

Can we expect this soon?
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #66 on: December 04, 2014, 06:45:09 pm »

I thought that the word "Skynet" was protected by hard copyright rules  ::)
copyright protects against copying. Since we are not copying the skynet you refer to, I do not see how there can be any copyright issue. Maybe if we were doing a movie and had a screenplay using specific language, but havent you seen two movies both with the same plot, come out at the same time?

Now, maybe trademark is more applicable, but trademarks are segmented by country and category. For example there are names of car brands that are also soap brands. Now there are even international trademarks, but even then they are segmented by category. So as long as there is no confusion as to the two things with the same name, it is not an issue.

Since the skynet you refer to is a fictional representation of an AI from the future and this SkyNET is an asset that has nothing to do with movies, I dont believe many people will be confused. I am not even sure if skynet from the movie was trademarked as they did not sell that as a product, but if there is any problem, they can contact me by sending a registered letter.

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« Reply #67 on: December 04, 2014, 06:45:38 pm »

Can we expect this soon?
you are free to start expecting it as soon as you wish
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

    Some innovations take a while...  ;D


Oh wow, I remember that (not the first time around, though, I'm not that old). Even made a version myself at school using qbasic, I think... I called it Melvin.

I'm not that old too but old enough to remember the beginnings of neural networks back in the the eighties  :o
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« Reply #69 on: December 04, 2014, 06:49:53 pm »

Can we expect this soon?
you are free to start expecting it as soon as you wish
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« Reply #70 on: December 04, 2014, 07:02:45 pm »

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Now, maybe trademark is more applicable, but trademarks are segmented by country and category. For example there are names of car brands that are also soap brands. Now there are even international trademarks, but even then they are segmented by category. So as long as there is no confusion as to the two things with the same name, it is not an issue.

When I was young I was involved in a project combining a word processing tool with a adress database. We called it "twin" because of its two main functions. When we start marketing the advocates of the german company "Zwilling" (twins) gave us a written warning not to use their trademark... Zwilling is using the name "twin" for their knives when selling them abroad. Everything is possible when lawyers come into play :-).

 
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #71 on: December 04, 2014, 07:12:48 pm »

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Now, maybe trademark is more applicable, but trademarks are segmented by country and category. For example there are names of car brands that are also soap brands. Now there are even international trademarks, but even then they are segmented by category. So as long as there is no confusion as to the two things with the same name, it is not an issue.

When I was young I was involved in a project combining a word processing tool with a adress database. We called it "twin" because of its two main functions. When we start marketing the advocates of the german company "Zwilling" (twins) gave us a written warning not to use their trademark... Zwilling is using the name "twin" for their knives when selling them abroad. Everything is possible when lawers come into play :-).
cross border bullying across language translation and product category. Nice. Using that thinking, you just need to trademark any common word (in any country) and you can bully hundreds of companies. Doesnt seem like it would have stood up to a court fight, but of course your company didnt want to spend tens of thousands of dollars fighting against a multinational who have fulltime lawyers on staff. I am sure everybody was so confused about Zwilling and your twin software, I bet a lot of people were trying to cut their tomatoes with your database and didnt get good results and complained to Zwilling about it.

So they bully and force others to buckle to their illegal demands.

I await the physical registered letters of complaints, they can send it to my address:

James
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #72 on: December 04, 2014, 11:34:08 pm »

cryptic message received from SkyNET....

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« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2014, 11:48:46 pm »

cryptic message received from SkyNET....

7A431C251B1A5020

it's definitely not english or spanish..and those are the only two languages i know
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #75 on: December 05, 2014, 02:18:00 am »

It's English ... (close to anyways ;))
http://finhive.com/roadmap.html
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« Reply #76 on: December 05, 2014, 02:23:49 am »

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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #77 on: December 05, 2014, 02:37:47 am »

cryptic message received from SkyNET....

7A431C251B1A5020

More great news from James.

SkyNET and FinHive agree to the following:
1. FinHive has made an agreement with SkyNET to become a wholly owned subsidiary of SkyNET
2. In exchange for 45% of SkyNET and 4.5 million NXT, Finhive will work on the referenced plans
3. All future revenues from Finhive operations will flow through SkyNET
4. revenues in excess of operating costs will be distributed as dividends to SkyNET assetholders
5. referenced plans: finhive.com/roadmap.html
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« Reply #78 on: December 05, 2014, 07:11:05 am »

cryptic message received from SkyNET....

7A431C251B1A5020

More great news from James.

SkyNET and FinHive agree to the following:
1. FinHive has made an agreement with SkyNET to become a wholly owned subsidiary of SkyNET
2. In exchange for 45% of SkyNET and 4.5 million NXT, Finhive will work on the referenced plans
3. All future revenues from Finhive operations will flow through SkyNET
4. revenues in excess of operating costs will be distributed as dividends to SkyNET assetholders
5. referenced plans: finhive.com/roadmap.html

Very ambitious project, I like it!  :D

Here is the clickable link again: http://finhive.com/roadmap.html
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« Reply #79 on: December 05, 2014, 07:21:29 am »

Here's a fun and short horror story:

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« Reply #80 on: December 05, 2014, 07:47:27 am »

James,

Can you update the first post of the thread?

I believe there is an asset ID now? Maybe nice if you add it there as well.

EDIT: seeing the Asset ID now. Never mind.
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« Reply #81 on: December 05, 2014, 08:06:47 am »

James,

Can you update the first post of the thread?

I believe there is an asset ID now? Maybe nice if you add it there as well.

EDIT: seeing the Asset ID now. Never mind.
too late
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« Reply #82 on: December 05, 2014, 08:17:18 am »

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« Reply #84 on: December 05, 2014, 08:25:03 am »

Nexern. The style of the page gives him away too, same feel as his block explorer  :D
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« Reply #85 on: December 05, 2014, 08:25:22 am »

It's English ... (close to anyways ;))
http://finhive.com/roadmap.html

who is the dev?
nexern and he will be having a team
He did the first NXT blockexplorer, over a year ago

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« Reply #86 on: December 05, 2014, 08:26:13 am »

oh nice, he made a good work with his blochain explorer.
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« Reply #87 on: December 05, 2014, 09:54:42 am »

yes, this is a ambitious project and even more so when you see how it unfolds in size
and density with each dev stage. as far as i know, no one has built something like
this on this large scale before.

there is a pretty big market for financial analytics/algorithmic trading and the goal
is to enter this external market, generating a constant revenue stream for SkyNET and
it's shareholders. merging crypto and traditional finance resources is promising.

the tech and data is available and tested. dev resources are already allocated and
i don't expect any real problems developing this beast. sure, the workload is huge,
because nearly all components are custom built at low level but that's all been taken
into account. it is quite clear to us, we are building something big and unique here.

on the roadmap, sorry for the laborious english but as a non native speaker it is
difficult sometimes to express as precise as desired. in case you have any questions,
suggestions for improvements, i am here to do my best to answer them.
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« Reply #88 on: December 05, 2014, 10:26:43 am »

oh nice, he made a good work with his blochain explorer.

thx youyou. yes, the explorer did well in three aspects.

1. at the beginning nxt was in the need for this, not only for users but also for exchanges.
2. used as a testbed, i was able to test different databases and code under real world conditions
    and variable workload (remember the botnet attacks last year?).
3. and a year ago i wasn't very familiar with blockchain related tech, now i know more.

these real wold experiences flowing into SkyNET/FinHive development now.
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« Reply #89 on: December 05, 2014, 10:32:26 am »

oh nice, he made a good work with his blochain explorer.

thx youyou. yes, the explorer did well in three aspects.

1. at the beginning nxt was in the need for this, not only for users but also for exchanges.
2. used as a testbed, i was able to test different databases and code under real world conditions
    and variable workload (remember the botnet attacks last year?).
3. and a year ago i wasn't very familiar with blockchain related tech, now i know more.

these real wold experiences flowing into SkyNET/FinHive development now.

i would add i love the "style" of your pages: very clear, no useless fancy stuffs, nice fonts.

ps: what's your native language?
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« Reply #90 on: December 05, 2014, 10:42:23 am »

oh nice, he made a good work with his blochain explorer.

thx youyou. yes, the explorer did well in three aspects.

1. at the beginning nxt was in the need for this, not only for users but also for exchanges.
2. used as a testbed, i was able to test different databases and code under real world conditions
    and variable workload (remember the botnet attacks last year?).
3. and a year ago i wasn't very familiar with blockchain related tech, now i know more.

these real wold experiences flowing into SkyNET/FinHive development now.

i would add i love the "style" of your pages: very clear, no useless fancy stuffs, nice fonts.

ps: what's your native language?

grown up in different countries, best/native language i speak is german.
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« Reply #91 on: December 05, 2014, 01:34:48 pm »

So Saturday i can buy SkyNET asset?
And how much will be available for sale at 15 nxt?
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« Reply #92 on: December 05, 2014, 01:44:45 pm »


#### original OP
Another asset dividend will come out in December. This is a surprise asset not currently in the pipeline.

Not sure if I should say what it is yet...

James

P.S. It will be a dual SuperNET/NXTventure dividend

I consulted with a few specialist and it was confirmed that you indeed should.
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« Reply #93 on: December 05, 2014, 02:57:21 pm »

nexern, nice to hear you are involved in this project.

I will be waiting on all you SkyNET hodlers to put up some sells in a decent price ;)
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« Reply #94 on: December 05, 2014, 08:26:50 pm »

First steps of SkyNET  ;D: http://youtu.be/pgaEE27nsQw?t=53s
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« Reply #95 on: December 05, 2014, 09:02:21 pm »

So Saturday i can buy SkyNET asset?
And how much will be available for sale at 15 nxt?
The market will set the price.
since the highest bid is already 29, I am thinking not many will be sold at 15

There are a few SkyNET whales who might be looking to recoup their capital, not sure. It is always difficult to properly predict price trajectory.

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« Reply #96 on: December 05, 2014, 09:13:35 pm »

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« Reply #97 on: December 05, 2014, 09:29:06 pm »

So Saturday i can buy SkyNET asset?
And how much will be available for sale at 15 nxt?
The market will set the price.
since the highest bid is already 29, I am thinking not many will be sold at 15

There are a few SkyNET whales who might be looking to recoup their capital, not sure. It is always difficult to properly predict price trajectory.

James

This bid from jl777b account seems to set a floor price...

NXT-SQ9J-JCAN-8XVY-5XN7K    10'000.0000    25.0000    250'000.00
When it got oversubscribed in slack in the first 12 hrs, I decided to release my stake so everyone who sent NXT would get their SkyNET. So I am having to buy on open market

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« Reply #98 on: December 05, 2014, 10:04:16 pm »

So Saturday i can buy SkyNET asset?
And how much will be available for sale at 15 nxt?
The market will set the price.
since the highest bid is already 29, I am thinking not many will be sold at 15

There are a few SkyNET whales who might be looking to recoup their capital, not sure. It is always difficult to properly predict price trajectory.

James

This bid from jl777b account seems to set a floor price...

NXT-SQ9J-JCAN-8XVY-5XN7K    10'000.0000    25.0000    250'000.00
When it got oversubscribed in slack in the first 12 hrs, I decided to release my stake so everyone who sent NXT would get their SkyNET. So I am having to buy on open market

James

I'm confused, everyone who sent NXT where? Was there some kind of secret sale for this asset through arranged through Slack or something?
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« Reply #99 on: December 05, 2014, 10:31:27 pm »

So Saturday i can buy SkyNET asset?
And how much will be available for sale at 15 nxt?
The market will set the price.
since the highest bid is already 29, I am thinking not many will be sold at 15

There are a few SkyNET whales who might be looking to recoup their capital, not sure. It is always difficult to properly predict price trajectory.

James

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NXT-SQ9J-JCAN-8XVY-5XN7K    10'000.0000    25.0000    250'000.00
When it got oversubscribed in slack in the first 12 hrs, I decided to release my stake so everyone who sent NXT would get their SkyNET. So I am having to buy on open market

James

I'm confused, everyone who sent NXT where? Was there some kind of secret sale for this asset through arranged through Slack or something?
it was in slack
it was not secret, it was announced
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« Reply #100 on: December 05, 2014, 10:46:59 pm »

So Saturday i can buy SkyNET asset?
And how much will be available for sale at 15 nxt?
The market will set the price.
since the highest bid is already 29, I am thinking not many will be sold at 15

There are a few SkyNET whales who might be looking to recoup their capital, not sure. It is always difficult to properly predict price trajectory.

James

This bid from jl777b account seems to set a floor price...

NXT-SQ9J-JCAN-8XVY-5XN7K    10'000.0000    25.0000    250'000.00
When it got oversubscribed in slack in the first 12 hrs, I decided to release my stake so everyone who sent NXT would get their SkyNET. So I am having to buy on open market

James

I'm confused, everyone who sent NXT where? Was there some kind of secret sale for this asset through arranged through Slack or something?
it was in slack
it was not secret, it was announced

Out of curiosity - why not announce it more openly, rather than just in members only channels. Just because somebody's not a SuperNet fanboy doesn't mean they wouldn't be interested in something like this. Personally I think it sounds very interesting and I would have liked to buy.

Also, if you create a thread about something here, why not mention that there has been a sale or say how many have been sold or at what price? By not doing that the whole thing just looks a bit dodgy.
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« Reply #101 on: December 05, 2014, 11:01:09 pm »

project preparations and development starts on monday.
a dev blog is set up to provide general status informations
and updated progess details on each dev section.

the first one, as seen in the roadmap, is the data-cluster
and data aggregation. to make the development transparent,
shareholders can not only monitor the progress but also
view and test completed components.

a webdesigner will take care about a shiny layout later.
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« Reply #102 on: December 05, 2014, 11:15:41 pm »

So Saturday i can buy SkyNET asset?
And how much will be available for sale at 15 nxt?
The market will set the price.
since the highest bid is already 29, I am thinking not many will be sold at 15

There are a few SkyNET whales who might be looking to recoup their capital, not sure. It is always difficult to properly predict price trajectory.

James

This bid from jl777b account seems to set a floor price...

NXT-SQ9J-JCAN-8XVY-5XN7K    10'000.0000    25.0000    250'000.00
When it got oversubscribed in slack in the first 12 hrs, I decided to release my stake so everyone who sent NXT would get their SkyNET. So I am having to buy on open market

James

I'm confused, everyone who sent NXT where? Was there some kind of secret sale for this asset through arranged through Slack or something?
it was in slack
it was not secret, it was announced

Out of curiosity - why not announce it more openly, rather than just in members only channels. Just because somebody's not a SuperNet fanboy doesn't mean they wouldn't be interested in something like this. Personally I think it sounds very interesting and I would have liked to buy.

Also, if you create a thread about something here, why not mention that there has been a sale or say how many have been sold or at what price? By not doing that the whole thing just looks a bit dodgy.
I did announce it in the Price Speculation thread, on the BTT SuperNET thread and in SuperNET forum
I did post all the details. This was a fringe benefit for the most active SuperNET fanboys as I really appreciate all the hard work they are doing in constructing the SuperNET.

SuperNET made 3 million NXT investment at 15 NXT each
As a reward to SuperNET contributors I allowed them to piggy back at same price. (yes, I know I am basically giving away free money, probably a few millions NXT worth, but gotta reward the fanboys dont I?)

A total of 300,000 SkyNET have thus been sold at 15 NXT
Another 75,000 SkyNET will be dividended out to SuperNET assetholders
Another 75,000 SkyNET wlll be dividended out to NXTventure assetholders. Of these, InstantDEX will receive about 30,000 (since it owns about 40% of NXTventure) and it will pass these through to InstantDEX assetholders.

Now I have been 100% transparent about all of this, I am sorry that I did not post in the thread that you are following. I am quite busy coding and maybe I forgot to post in all the places I should have.

Anyway, I have not done much publicity about this, so the initial prices should be quite a bit lower at first than when people realize the scope and potential of the project and especially after the first tech is being released.

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« Reply #103 on: December 05, 2014, 11:37:30 pm »

I think people need to understand that they're not entitled to ground floor on every asset just because they exist and feel they should. I've never been ground floor on anything, yet I don't start flinging shit about it.

Put in the work, get rewarded. This sale was notified in several openly viewable areas. I was not a member of slack and knew about this from this forum - despite knowing I couldn't participate because it was for 50k minimum batches. Should I now complain that it's unfair that I couldn't buy in because I'm not rich enough? No, because that'd be a little arrogant.
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« Reply #104 on: December 05, 2014, 11:50:14 pm »

I think people need to understand that they're not entitled to ground floor on every asset just because they exist and feel they should. I've never been ground floor on anything, yet I don't start flinging shit about it.

Put in the work, get rewarded. This sale was notified in several openly viewable areas. I was not a member of slack and knew about this from this forum - despite knowing I couldn't participate because it was for 50k minimum batches. Should I now complain that it's unfair that I couldn't buy in because I'm not rich enough? No, because that'd be a little arrogant.
I would have set the minimum lower, except it needs to be processed manually and I just dont have the time for 100 manual transactions

I admit there was a bit of a "lottery" effect, but there are some that are in slack all the time and those are the ones I wanted to reward.

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« Reply #105 on: December 06, 2014, 02:06:13 am »

If you want fair well do a dutch auction
I dont think its a scandal if 6 people who contribuate to the supernet have benefited promotion
I don't care i will buy  8)
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« Reply #106 on: December 06, 2014, 04:04:22 am »

Disappointed to see that Finhive is under SkyNet or whatever the hell that is.  I don't even know how to buy this, and I don't know if I'm getting a fair valuation, I feel like it's an insider trading club with any James Asset right now.  No offense, just how I feel.
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« Reply #107 on: December 06, 2014, 04:20:00 am »

Disappointed to see that Finhive is under SkyNet or whatever the hell that is.  I don't even know how to buy this, and I don't know if I'm getting a fair valuation, I feel like it's an insider trading club with any James Asset right now.  No offense, just how I feel.
Currently Finhive is a wholly owned subsidiary and so SuperNET is whatever finhive is, plus possibly more in the future.

http://finhive.com/roadmap.html

I am inviting anybody to join the SuperNET slack, everything is open. There is even a log of all slack comms: http://104.236.15.119:8086/logs

There has been no trading yet, that will probably start after 1400 GMT tomorrow. I have no control over the trading price. Now you use a phrase "insider trading club" and I really dont feel that is fair, it certainly has negative connotations and since anybody can be an insider, it really isnt insiders at all. And there has not been any trading yet.

You can get a SkyNET dividend from SuperNET or NXTventure or even InstantDEX holdings.

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« Reply #108 on: December 06, 2014, 04:30:58 am »

Disappointed to see that Finhive is under SkyNet or whatever the hell that is.  I don't even know how to buy this, and I don't know if I'm getting a fair valuation, I feel like it's an insider trading club with any James Asset right now.  No offense, just how I feel.
Currently Finhive is a wholly owned subsidiary and so SuperNET is whatever finhive is, plus possibly more in the future.

http://finhive.com/roadmap.html

I am inviting anybody to join the SuperNET slack, everything is open. There is even a log of all slack comms: http://104.236.15.119:8086/logs

There has been no trading yet, that will probably start after 1400 GMT tomorrow. I have no control over the trading price. Now you use a phrase "insider trading club" and I really dont feel that is fair, it certainly has negative connotations and since anybody can be an insider, it really isnt insiders at all. And there has not been any trading yet.

You can get a SkyNET dividend from SuperNET or NXTventure or even InstantDEX holdings.

James

Again, really confusing, so I have to own one of your other Assets to own Skynet, which owns Finhive.  Skynet Asset reads like a joke, why would you have a project like Finhive under Skynet?  It seems like I would have to follow 20 different threads to know what's going on.  I'm not investing because Nexern is the only one who should be selling this Asset, but this is just owned by other Assets and yourself.  I don't see how a financial institution (a potential user of Finhive) would take serious a company that is owned under a crypto Asset called Skynet.  Anyway, I wish Nexern good luck but sad to see this project go this route.
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« Reply #109 on: December 06, 2014, 04:49:24 am »

Disappointed to see that Finhive is under SkyNet or whatever the hell that is.  I don't even know how to buy this, and I don't know if I'm getting a fair valuation, I feel like it's an insider trading club with any James Asset right now.  No offense, just how I feel.
Currently Finhive is a wholly owned subsidiary and so SuperNET is whatever finhive is, plus possibly more in the future.

http://finhive.com/roadmap.html

I am inviting anybody to join the SuperNET slack, everything is open. There is even a log of all slack comms: http://104.236.15.119:8086/logs

There has been no trading yet, that will probably start after 1400 GMT tomorrow. I have no control over the trading price. Now you use a phrase "insider trading club" and I really dont feel that is fair, it certainly has negative connotations and since anybody can be an insider, it really isnt insiders at all. And there has not been any trading yet.

You can get a SkyNET dividend from SuperNET or NXTventure or even InstantDEX holdings.

James

Again, really confusing, so I have to own one of your other Assets to own Skynet, which owns Finhive.  Skynet Asset reads like a joke, why would you have a project like Finhive under Skynet?  It seems like I would have to follow 20 different threads to know what's going on.  I'm not investing because Nexern is the only one who should be selling this Asset, but this is just owned by other Assets and yourself.  I don't see how a financial institution (a potential user of Finhive) would take serious a company that is owned under a crypto Asset called Skynet.  Anyway, I wish Nexern good luck but sad to see this project go this route.
The operating entity, finhive, is what customers will see. The asset ownership is decoupled from the operations. Yum Brands owns KFC, but the people buying chicken probably dont even know. In my experience the product is what matters to customers, not the name of parent entity.

I estimate over 1500 different people will end up owning portions of SkyNET asset and thus the finhive operations. After all the dividends are sent out, SuperNET will own ~20%, my personal share much much smaller. Not sure why you think being owned by 1500+ people via crypto asset is a bad thing. You seem to be personalizing things to being just me, but there are over 200 people in SuperNET slack over 1000 investors. This is much, much more than just me.

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« Reply #110 on: December 06, 2014, 05:17:07 am »

Again, really confusing, so I have to own one of your other Assets to own Skynet

This is a trademark of jl777 assets, and lot of people including myself have benefited from this technique. By just owning some nxtvntures back in august 2014, I was able to receive FREEMARKET, PANGEA, NXTPRIVACY, ATOMIC, PRIVATEBET to name a few.

This is not only good for NXT but particularly NXT Asset Exchange adding more options for investors and increasing the daily trade volume.

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« Reply #111 on: December 06, 2014, 05:22:35 am »

I'm not going to go back and forth as it's already been decided, it's a confusing move by nexern, but I wish Finhive the best of luck. 
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« Reply #112 on: December 06, 2014, 05:32:07 am »

Disappointed to see that Finhive is under SkyNet or whatever the hell that is.  I don't even know how to buy this, and I don't know if I'm getting a fair valuation, I feel like it's an insider trading club with any James Asset right now.  No offense, just how I feel.
Currently Finhive is a wholly owned subsidiary and so SuperNET is whatever finhive is, plus possibly more in the future.

http://finhive.com/roadmap.html

I am inviting anybody to join the SuperNET slack, everything is open. There is even a log of all slack comms: http://104.236.15.119:8086/logs

There has been no trading yet, that will probably start after 1400 GMT tomorrow. I have no control over the trading price. Now you use a phrase "insider trading club" and I really dont feel that is fair, it certainly has negative connotations and since anybody can be an insider, it really isnt insiders at all. And there has not been any trading yet.

You can get a SkyNET dividend from SuperNET or NXTventure or even InstantDEX holdings.

James

Again, really confusing, so I have to own one of your other Assets to own Skynet, which owns Finhive.  Skynet Asset reads like a joke, why would you have a project like Finhive under Skynet?  It seems like I would have to follow 20 different threads to know what's going on.  I'm not investing because Nexern is the only one who should be selling this Asset, but this is just owned by other Assets and yourself.  I don't see how a financial institution (a potential user of Finhive) would take serious a company that is owned under a crypto Asset called Skynet.  Anyway, I wish Nexern good luck but sad to see this project go this route.

I think you need to realize that jl777 owning assets is a serious upside to nxt and SuperNet as a whole. In this political landscape can you imagine a company that releases shares on the AE not getting sued by the SEC? By having jl777 acting as the owner of these businesses and allowing these business to instead be employed by jl777 enterprises, and being compensated in shares of their own company, suddenly these companies are free to open up on the asset exchange and focus on building their business rather then focusing on what comes with the red tape of releasing shares. Normally you would have to worry that if these companies you invest in become too big you would be concerned of them them getting sued, instead now you can just worry about them doing their job, since suing jl777 is unfeasable.
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« Reply #113 on: December 06, 2014, 05:57:18 am »

I think you need to realize that jl777 owning assets is a serious upside to nxt and SuperNet as a whole. In this political landscape can you imagine a company that releases shares on the AE not getting sued by the SEC? By having jl777 acting as the owner of these businesses and allowing these business to instead be employed by jl777 enterprises, and being compensated in shares of their own company, suddenly these companies are free to open up on the asset exchange and focus on building their business rather then focusing on what comes with the red tape of releasing shares. Normally you would have to worry that if these companies you invest in become too big you would be concerned of them them getting sued, instead now you can just worry about them doing their job, since suing jl777 is unfeasable.

Your argument actually proves the opposite.  So if I'm a company that sells a product, you think the SEC will leave me alone because I raised all of my capital from an anonymous entity or my company is owned by an anonymous entity that is distributing profits to Asset holders.  Nexern is just an anonymous as James, so why worry about the SEC?  Anyway, you aren't going to convince me otherwise in posts, and I really do wish Finhive the best of luck, I hope it's really successful. 
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« Reply #114 on: December 06, 2014, 01:00:18 pm »

The price of SuperNet and NxtVenture is too low.
Where are the sharks and whales? For the previews, the large dividends should increase the value to the 3-fold.

I can not buy more I'm broke  ;D
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« Reply #115 on: December 06, 2014, 01:25:25 pm »

The price of SuperNet and NxtVenture is too low.
Where are the sharks and whales? For the previews, the large dividends should increase the value to the 3-fold.

I can not buy more I'm broke  ;D

people do not yet realize the power of backing crypto services that generates revenues instead they are still looking for the next currency, we'll just have to show them its possible first, then marketvalue to follow.

to answer topic: very cool project best of luck, I read some about AI but I cant say I grasp the concept fully yet!
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« Reply #116 on: December 06, 2014, 01:26:27 pm »

More fud please i would like to buy at 15  ::)
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« Reply #117 on: December 06, 2014, 01:48:16 pm »

The price of SuperNet and NxtVenture is too low.
Where are the sharks and whales? For the previews, the large dividends should increase the value to the 3-fold.

I can not buy more I'm broke  ;D

people do not yet realize the power of backing crypto services that generates revenues instead they are still looking for the next currency, we'll just have to show them its possible first, then marketvalue to follow.

to answer topic: very cool project best of luck, I read some about AI but I cant say I grasp the concept fully yet!

The power (or one factor of the power) is the stability this should enable: finally, there is a way of accurately valuing crypto. If you know what the revenue stream is/might be, you can put a figure on the stock.
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« Reply #118 on: December 06, 2014, 02:33:08 pm »

Will finHive somehow merge with Tradebots (former NxtCoinsco) project?

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« Reply #119 on: December 06, 2014, 03:13:56 pm »

The price of SuperNet and NxtVenture is too low.
Where are the sharks and whales? For the previews, the large dividends should increase the value to the 3-fold.

I can not buy more I'm broke  ;D

I own a bunch of Supernet, but no NxtVenture.  What's the difference between NxtVenture and Supernet?
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« Reply #120 on: December 06, 2014, 03:18:22 pm »

Will finHive somehow merge with Tradebots (former NxtCoinsco) project?

FinHive intend to develop efficient trade-strategies and algorithmic-trading,
by utilize the full depth of all generated analytics and AI results.

it makes sense for FinHive not only to share but also to use new detected (unknown)
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« Reply #121 on: December 06, 2014, 03:33:48 pm »

Awesome, I think everybody will have the possibility then to use these data and create own Tradebots with superNET =)

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« Reply #122 on: December 06, 2014, 04:03:38 pm »

Awesome, I think everybody will have the possibility then to use these data and create own Tradebots with superNET =)

yes, you can even combine those signals with your own private strategy, running a backtest
with various combinations, cross-validate and seek for correlated filters, because you have
full access to all analytic timeseries. compared to competitors, you don't have to run those
strategies on a foreign server, where you can't control what happend with your data.

with FinHive you use Helix, running on your box and keeps your data private. if you like to
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« Reply #123 on: December 06, 2014, 04:09:55 pm »

very promising!

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« Reply #124 on: December 06, 2014, 05:35:01 pm »

The price of SuperNet and NxtVenture is too low.
Where are the sharks and whales? For the previews, the large dividends should increase the value to the 3-fold.

I can not buy more I'm broke  ;D

I own a bunch of Supernet, but no NxtVenture.  What's the difference between NxtVenture and Supernet?
NXTventure is just the asset dividends, and it doesnt have thousands of BTC of NAV, nor does it have the future revenue streams. My assessment is that SuperNET market premium over NXTventure now is much lower than it will be in the future

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« Reply #125 on: December 06, 2014, 05:48:50 pm »

So I picked up some SuperNET and NXTVentures. Will I get portion of SkyNET in my account?

I see all these assets coming in like launch missiles, but where can one find about development plans?

How can one join some of these projects? I could definitely make a difference on the SkyNET project as I have experience with machine learning, scalability and more.
 
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« Reply #126 on: December 06, 2014, 06:00:06 pm »

So I picked up some SuperNET and NXTVentures. Will I get portion of SkyNET in my account?

I see all these assets coming in like launch missiles, but where can one find about development plans?

How can one join some of these projects? I could definitely make a difference on the SkyNET project as I have experience with machine learning, scalability and more.

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« Reply #127 on: December 06, 2014, 06:01:00 pm »

So I picked up some SuperNET and NXTVentures. Will I get portion of SkyNET in my account?

yep, thats how it works ;)

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« Reply #128 on: December 06, 2014, 06:01:37 pm »

So I picked up some SuperNET and NXTVentures. Will I get portion of SkyNET in my account?

I see all these assets coming in like launch missiles, but where can one find about development plans?

How can one join some of these projects? I could definitely make a difference on the SkyNET project as I have experience with machine learning, scalability and more.
The missiles are preparing to launch. Welcome to SkyNET!

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« Reply #129 on: December 07, 2014, 12:17:17 pm »

With 200 nxtventure, 98 instantdex and 100 supernet, what is the amount of skynet i have to receive?
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« Reply #130 on: December 07, 2014, 12:34:43 pm »

With 200 nxtventure, 98 instantdex and 100 supernet, what is the amount of skynet i have to receive?
thx

You Should have gotten 7.5 SkyNet for every 100 NxtVenture, 9.2 SkyNet for every 100 superNET, and 2.8 SkyNet for every 100 InstantDex if my calcs are correct.

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« Reply #131 on: December 07, 2014, 12:44:17 pm »

THX. I use an sae acct, where i can see 3 asset transfers between 6th and 7th december, but no numbers. Does exist a link/page where I can verify the exact amounts?

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« Reply #132 on: December 07, 2014, 01:14:13 pm »

THX. I use an sae acct, where i can see 3 asset transfers between 6th and 7th december, but no numbers. Does exist a link/page where I can verify the exact amounts?

thanks again

Pretty sure you should be able to see exact amounts by clicking into the transactions, but I don't use sae so can't confirm.

Alternatively, you can use this:
http://nxtreporting.com/
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« Reply #133 on: December 07, 2014, 02:58:53 pm »

Pretty sure you should be able to see exact amounts by clicking into the transactions, but I don't use sae so can't confirm.

Alternatively, you can use this:
............................
and enter your account number to see the transactions in more details.



This is really detailed, thank you for the info (i cannot post links)
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« Reply #135 on: December 08, 2014, 12:25:26 am »

James, how does one join slack? I'd like to check it out.
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« Reply #136 on: December 08, 2014, 12:54:48 am »

James, how does one join slack? I'd like to check it out.
PM noashh your email, he will send a slack invite
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« Reply #137 on: December 08, 2014, 08:14:34 pm »

Follow the evolution of FinHive at: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?board=143.0
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« Reply #138 on: December 10, 2014, 06:07:13 am »

I just found out I own some SkyNET (via NXTVenture). Too cool!
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« Reply #139 on: December 29, 2014, 05:47:13 pm »

something new about SKYnet ?
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« Reply #140 on: December 29, 2014, 06:45:52 pm »

something new about SKYnet ?

hi chocolate,

you can follow the dev here:  http://finhive.com/fh_devmon.html
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« Reply #141 on: January 25, 2015, 03:49:45 pm »

The shit coin Sapience do the same
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864895.0
Maybe they will deliver before Skynet  :o
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« Reply #142 on: January 25, 2015, 06:58:57 pm »

The shit coin Sapience do the same

Maybe they will deliver before Skynet  :o

different animals. skynet is about real world financial analytics, targeting crypto and particularly traditional traders/investors.
it has no meaning or impact if they deliver or not. compititors are financial data services/vendors on the external market, not sapience.
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« Reply #143 on: January 28, 2015, 06:53:26 pm »

The shit coin Sapience do the same
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864895.0
Maybe they will deliver before Skynet  :o

what does Skynet exactly do?

And Sapience? any brief explanation? I won't read that superfancy but terrible description in their [ANN].
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« Reply #144 on: January 29, 2015, 03:40:54 am »

Actually they have a android wallet with voice...
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« Reply #145 on: January 29, 2015, 08:40:32 am »

what does Skynet exactly do?

Read the devmon: http://finhive.com/fh_devmon.html

It's pretty clear what it will be able to do or is already doing.
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« Reply #146 on: April 08, 2015, 06:47:31 am »

Any updates?  :)
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« Reply #147 on: April 08, 2015, 10:42:54 am »

Any updates?  :)

yes, have been abroad to meet traders and marketing pros.
finalizing the JSON-RPC and TA lib now, right after the client.
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« Reply #148 on: August 24, 2015, 12:15:09 am »


Read the devmon: http://finhive.com/fh_devmon.html

It's pretty clear what it will be able to do or is already doing.

I'm sorry... but if you're not into finance, it doesn't look that simple and the dev log is not that easy to understand...

Someone described it to me as DISTRIBUTED FINANCIAL ANALYTICS, but that's pretty much the same to me as multimeric transmembrane GTPase... it's so context specific, you can't just point to it and say, 'everybody just go and read, it's obvious'.

I think the question 'what does Skynet exactly do?' is still unanswered to many people.
And I'll add another - what is its relevance or possible impact?
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« Reply #149 on: August 24, 2015, 01:26:06 am »


Read the devmon: http://finhive.com/fh_devmon.html

It's pretty clear what it will be able to do or is already doing.

I'm sorry... but if you're not into finance, it doesn't look that simple and the dev log is not that easy to understand...

Someone described it to me as DISTRIBUTED FINANCIAL ANALYTICS, but that's pretty much the same to me as multimeric transmembrane GTPase... it's so context specific, you can't just point to it and say, 'everybody just go and read, it's obvious'.

I think the question 'what does Skynet exactly do?' is still unanswered to many people.
And I'll add another - what is its relevance or possible impact?

hi ngdias, already answered in slack, if you need more info please let me know.
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« Reply #150 on: August 24, 2015, 08:08:31 am »

he asked here, why not explain here?
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« Reply #151 on: August 24, 2015, 09:44:17 am »


hi ngdias, already answered in slack, if you need more info please let me know.

Yes, you did thanks :)
I tried getting the slack log to paste here, but it's too late.

Maybe you could explain it better here too?
In 2 sentences, what I understood the goal is to grab a huge amount of market data from a wide range of sources (not only crypto) and process it in real time to show events, trends, make predictions and feed bots. It will use BOINC because of the heavy computation involved.
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« Reply #152 on: August 24, 2015, 06:42:52 pm »

And since you guys are joining BOINC, why not get whitelisted for Gridcoin as well? This way the donated computer power would also yield some cryptocoins...
http://gridcoin.us/index.htm
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« Reply #153 on: December 22, 2015, 12:32:15 am »

Google’s machine-learning system is now open-source.
www. tensorflow.org/

Here’s What Developers Are Doing with Google’s AI Brain
www. technologyreview.com/news/544356/heres-what-developers-are-doing-with-googles-ai-brain/

Why Google, Facebook, Microsoft and IBM Are Desperate to Give Away AI Technology
www. technologyreview.com/news/544236/facebook-joins-stampede-of-tech-giants-giving-away-artificial-intelligence-technology/

Can This Man Make AI More Human?
www. technologyreview.com/featuredstory/544606/can-this-man-make-ai-more-human/

Silicon Valley Kingpins Commit $1 Billion to Create Artificial Intelligence Without Profit Motive
blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/12/11/silicon-valley-kingpins-commit-1-billion-to-create-artificial-intelligence-without-profit-motive/

OpenAI
www. openai.com/
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« Reply #154 on: December 22, 2015, 08:41:37 am »

Is this the same OpenAI initiative Elon Musk (among others) plans to pour billions of dollars upon?

While I am personally excited and entertained by the idea, I also have my concerns as to what this mean for us and how it will affect the life of our (digital) society in the short and long run.

Quote from Harvard Business Review:
"One of the aims of OpenAI is to share their work with the world (for example, they have committing to sharing any patents they might develop). A noble goal. But from there, who do you think is going to be best able to exploit whatever is developed? I wouldn’t claim to be an expert in the field of AI, but I’d hazard a guess that it’s going to be those with the most computational resources and, increasingly, proprietary data to dedicate to it."
https://hbr.org/2015/12/is-openai-solving-the-wrong-problem
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For those not on supernet slack:

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« Reply #156 on: June 15, 2016, 07:16:30 am »

Hello :)
Are there any updates to this Project?
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« Reply #158 on: June 19, 2016, 05:08:21 pm »

Hello :)
Are there any updates to this Project?

Important update:

http://finhive.com/proposal.html

For discussion see supernet slack #skynet

Voting on the proposal is live in NXT client:

1. Should the SkyNET asset enter into a cooperation? (for details see proposal)
2. Should the SkyNET asset moved to the Waves platform?
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« Reply #159 on: April 14, 2017, 09:32:17 am »

Any update on SkyNet? Any forum discussing this evolution?
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skynet is dead?
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« Reply #161 on: May 03, 2017, 05:56:32 am »

Will skynet move to the waves Plattform?
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Re: SkyNET 6854596569382794790 - decentralized AI
« Reply #162 on: May 03, 2017, 06:41:21 am »

Will skynet move to the waves Plattform?

Nexern asked his investors some time ago and they voted yes. Haven't heard from him since.
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