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Many here will disagree with me, but this is an issue between James and BM.  I don't see why the community is spending so much time on this.  I understand the Asset losses, but everyone should be prepared to lose anything invested in any Asset or Crypto for that matter.  James hired BM as a contractor for a specific project and then issued an Asset based on that project.  BM decided he didn't want to finish the project and he needs to settle that with James in private.  James will make this right because he has many Assets and a reputation to keep.  We can't, as a community, witch hunt for every Asset that turns out to be a dud.  You can't assume that any of your Assets hold some value because they were issued by someone in particular or you were promised something.  BM wants to move on, that is fine, and he owes James some Nxt, but it's not a matter we should all be involved in right now.
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Many here will disagree with me, but this is an issue between James and BM.  I don't see why the community is spending so much time on this.  I understand the Asset losses, but everyone should be prepared to lose anything invested in any Asset or Crypto for that matter.  James hired BM as a contractor for a specific project and then issued an Asset based on that project.  BM decided he didn't want to finish the project and he needs to settle that with James in private.  James will make this right because he has many Assets and a reputation to keep.  We can't, as a community, witch hunt for every Asset that turns out to be a dud.  You can't assume that any of your Assets hold some value because they were issued by someone in particular or you were promised something.  BM wants to move on, that is fine, and he owes James some Nxt, but it's not a matter we should all be involved in right now.

I do agree that this is between James and I.  I have reached out to him and got no response.  Part of what he's doing is conscripting the community by telling them that there is a dispute between the community and me- when there isn't.  Again, I offered a full refund to the TD- and I never wavered on that.

Secondly I am not responsible for this asset because 1) I didnt issue it  2) I didnt sell it.  I did detect this possible outcome and thus decided not to personally profit from the sale of shares.  Others did warn me about James but I decided otherwise and to pursue this opportunity.  I thought it could help to make a better feature.

I'd like to know- what happened to all the money people spent on NXTautoDAC?  At least one person decided that I had it, even though that I made it clear I never sold a share.

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Many here will disagree with me, but this is an issue between James and BM.  I don't see why the community is spending so much time on this.  I understand the Asset losses, but everyone should be prepared to lose anything invested in any Asset or Crypto for that matter.  James hired BM as a contractor for a specific project and then issued an Asset based on that project.  BM decided he didn't want to finish the project and he needs to settle that with James in private.  James will make this right because he has many Assets and a reputation to keep.  We can't, as a community, witch hunt for every Asset that turns out to be a dud.  You can't assume that any of your Assets hold some value because they were issued by someone in particular or you were promised something.  BM wants to move on, that is fine, and he owes James some Nxt, but it's not a matter we should all be involved in right now.

Very true.

BM needs to pay back any community funds, in NXT, for not continuing with the project. Anything else, was a risk taken by shareholders.

BM, what was your vision for DAC? How did it differ from James'?
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Many here will disagree with me, but this is an issue between James and BM.  I don't see why the community is spending so much time on this.  I understand the Asset losses, but everyone should be prepared to lose anything invested in any Asset or Crypto for that matter.  James hired BM as a contractor for a specific project and then issued an Asset based on that project.  BM decided he didn't want to finish the project and he needs to settle that with James in private.  James will make this right because he has many Assets and a reputation to keep.  We can't, as a community, witch hunt for every Asset that turns out to be a dud.  You can't assume that any of your Assets hold some value because they were issued by someone in particular or you were promised something.  BM wants to move on, that is fine, and he owes James some Nxt, but it's not a matter we should all be involved in right now.

Very true.

BM needs to pay back any community funds, in NXT, for not continuing with the project. Anything else, was a risk taken by shareholders.

BM, what was your vision for DAC? How did it differ from James'?

no problems paying back the TD.  I made that clear from the start.

James had a confused vision of some sort of automated companies.  I really can't quite make any sense of it.  I had an issue early on with it, voiced it with some people and got some council and decided that its best not to disrupt(in the way James just did).  James even agreed that things 'were confusing' at the start and consented to the plan to restate the company purpose- thus he acknowledged that the stated purpose was inadequate.  James unfortunately is trying to convert his own personal losses(due to his own actions) into some sort of community issue.

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Many here will disagree with me, but this is an issue between James and BM.  I don't see why the community is spending so much time on this.  I understand the Asset losses, but everyone should be prepared to lose anything invested in any Asset or Crypto for that matter.  James hired BM as a contractor for a specific project and then issued an Asset based on that project.  BM decided he didn't want to finish the project and he needs to settle that with James in private.  James will make this right because he has many Assets and a reputation to keep.  We can't, as a community, witch hunt for every Asset that turns out to be a dud.  You can't assume that any of your Assets hold some value because they were issued by someone in particular or you were promised something.  BM wants to move on, that is fine, and he owes James some Nxt, but it's not a matter we should all be involved in right now.

Very true.

BM needs to pay back any community funds, in NXT, for not continuing with the project. Anything else, was a risk taken by shareholders.

BM, what was your vision for DAC? How did it differ from James'?

no problems paying back the TD.  I made that clear from the start.

James had a confused vision of some sort of automated companies.  I really can't quite make any sense of it.  I had an issue early on with it, voiced it with some people and got some council and decided that its best not to disrupt(in the way James just did).  James even agreed that things 'were confusing' at the start and consented to the plan to restate the company purpose- thus he acknowledged that the stated purpose was inadequate.  James unfortunately is trying to convert his own personal losses(due to his own actions) into some sort of community issue.

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regardless, any decent & honest person would just return the assets since you wont be doing the work.
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regardless, any decent & honest person would just return the assets since you wont be doing the work.

the "solution" that I am supposed to pay for all these damages might seem acceptable to you, however it erodes just about every standard of business I can think of.

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regardless, any decent & honest person would just return the assets since you wont be doing the work.

the "solution" that I am supposed to pay for all these damages might seem acceptable to you, however it erodes just about every standard of business I can think of.

-bm

His point is that James gave you assets and 1million NXT for developing DAC. If you didn't complete or develop a finished DAC, then you  should return the portion of the 1million NXT to James. For example, if you only completed 10% of the DAC you should return 900k of NXT to James. Does that make sense?
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BM, please complete the following sentence:

"I deserve to keep the 1M NXT for work on NXTautoDAC, even though I did very little work on it and made no commits, because ___________________________________."

I am only somewhat sarcastic here. I genuinely do not understand how you can feel good about keeping payment for a project that you did not in fact do much work on. (And don't mention the NXTautoDAC assets, and how you didn't sell any. That's not what this question is about.)
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I own 10% of NXTautoDAC which I bought from James. It is clear to me that bluemeanie suffers from a mental illness. People on forums like to insult others by calling them names, but I honestly believe bluemeanie is probably a psychopath or a sociopath.

This thread is his 'trophy', and anyone who engages with him is giving him EXACTLY what he wants. The money isn't the only motivator here. Bluemeanie wants to feel powerful, in control, and smarter than the rest of us. He will no doubt read this thread over and over, so he can re-experience his 'victory', his 'power'

As someone who lost a lot of money over this, I ask that you refrain from giving bluemeanie MORE. Lock this thread and forget about him. Move on. Don't give this psychopath anything more.

A normal scammer lurks in the shadows, takes your money, and tries their hardest to remain anonymous. A psychopath like this guy NEEDS a trophy, he needs to witness all the fuss he has created. This is the motivation. He wants to be endlessly debated, and in all honesty reading this thread is getting him off.

DON'T GIVE HIM WHAT HE WANTS.
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regardless, any decent & honest person would just return the assets since you wont be doing the work.

the "solution" that I am supposed to pay for all these damages might seem acceptable to you, however it erodes just about every standard of business I can think of.

-bm

You got this wrong - you are not "paying", you are returning money for a job someone paid you to do, but then reneged on.

You say you cashed out $15k, where is the rest? 1 mil NXT, at the time you sent the funds, was worth $50k.

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MadCow, you are right, perhaps we should just stop. BlueMeanie1 already has shown his true colors.
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Why all the banter back and forth? If you think you were scammed, and the alleged perpetrator lives in the USA, file a complaint.
Contact numbers are at the bottom of this pdf
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Why all the banter back and forth? If you think you were scammed, and the alleged perpetrator lives in the USA, file a complaint.
Contact numbers are at the bottom of this pdf
http://www.sec.gov/investor/alerts/ia_virtualcurrencies.pdf

I did not issue the asset, thus making such a filing will probably bring attention to James(and probably many more on this forum).

I did not market these assets, and I did not sell them.

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I own 10% of NXTautoDAC which I bought from James. It is clear to me that bluemeanie suffers from a mental illness. People on forums like to insult others by calling them names, but I honestly believe bluemeanie is probably a psychopath or a sociopath.

This thread is his 'trophy', and anyone who engages with him is giving him EXACTLY what he wants. The money isn't the only motivator here. Bluemeanie wants to feel powerful, in control, and smarter than the rest of us. He will no doubt read this thread over and over, so he can re-experience his 'victory', his 'power'

As someone who lost a lot of money over this, I ask that you refrain from giving bluemeanie MORE. Lock this thread and forget about him. Move on. Don't give this psychopath anything more.

A normal scammer lurks in the shadows, takes your money, and tries their hardest to remain anonymous. A psychopath like this guy NEEDS a trophy, he needs to witness all the fuss he has created. This is the motivation. He wants to be endlessly debated, and in all honesty reading this thread is getting him off.

DON'T GIVE HIM WHAT HE WANTS.



who is anonymous here?

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Close this thread and deal with this privately, I guarantee you will get more resolved with BM if you Skype him.  James made a business decision to hire BM, it didn't work out, BM already cashed out 1Mil Nxt, he obviously doesn't have interest in Nxt.  If his intentions were to walk away the whole time, then hiring him was a very bad decision and his reputation will suffer.  This isn't the community's responsibility to recover funds from bad business decisions. 
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Close this thread and deal with this privately, I guarantee you will get more resolved with BM if you Skype him.  James made a business decision to hire BM, it didn't work out, BM already cashed out 1Mil Nxt, he obviously doesn't have interest in Nxt.  If his intentions were to walk away the whole time, then hiring him was a very bad decision and his reputation will suffer.  This isn't the community's responsibility to recover funds from bad business decisions.

the very fact is that I never reneged on anything.  People seem to have quickly forgotten the backdrop here: remember the missing 200BTC which Evil Dave thought was not a big deal?

again: I cashed out on NXT because NXT is not spendable.

James created a cryptoasset with my name on it, convinced you I would be liable for it, I never agreed to this in any way- and in addition I never profited from it.  You were fooled by James, not by me.

Again:  what happened to the revenues from the sale of the shares?

moral of the story: dont do business with anonymous people.  There is a perfect reason why James made sure to stick my loginid in the asset descriptor.  I had an issue with it from the start.

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Many here will disagree with me, but this is an issue between James and BM.  I don't see why the community is spending so much time on this.  I understand the Asset losses, but everyone should be prepared to lose anything invested in any Asset or Crypto for that matter.  James hired BM as a contractor for a specific project and then issued an Asset based on that project.  BM decided he didn't want to finish the project and he needs to settle that with James in private.  James will make this right because he has many Assets and a reputation to keep.  We can't, as a community, witch hunt for every Asset that turns out to be a dud.  You can't assume that any of your Assets hold some value because they were issued by someone in particular or you were promised something.  BM wants to move on, that is fine, and he owes James some Nxt, but it's not a matter we should all be involved in right now.

Very true.

BM needs to pay back any community funds, in NXT, for not continuing with the project. Anything else, was a risk taken by shareholders.

BM, what was your vision for DAC? How did it differ from James'?

no problems paying back the TD.  I made that clear from the start.


When are you paying back to TD?

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also I want to add, I suspect that James was churning the price of the asset.  When I suspected this, I decided not to sell any and work on resolving the other issues.  The fact is he moves very quickly.  How many of these assets and companies did he form in the past few weeks?  so many I can't even count.

It's surprising how so far no one has found a single fault with James here.

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Many here will disagree with me, but this is an issue between James and BM.  I don't see why the community is spending so much time on this.  I understand the Asset losses, but everyone should be prepared to lose anything invested in any Asset or Crypto for that matter.  James hired BM as a contractor for a specific project and then issued an Asset based on that project.  BM decided he didn't want to finish the project and he needs to settle that with James in private.  James will make this right because he has many Assets and a reputation to keep.  We can't, as a community, witch hunt for every Asset that turns out to be a dud.  You can't assume that any of your Assets hold some value because they were issued by someone in particular or you were promised something.  BM wants to move on, that is fine, and he owes James some Nxt, but it's not a matter we should all be involved in right now.

Very true.

BM needs to pay back any community funds, in NXT, for not continuing with the project. Anything else, was a risk taken by shareholders.

BM, what was your vision for DAC? How did it differ from James'?

no problems paying back the TD.  I made that clear from the start.


When are you paying back to TD?


we'll settle it ASAP.

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Close this thread and deal with this privately, I guarantee you will get more resolved with BM if you Skype him.  James made a business decision to hire BM, it didn't work out, BM already cashed out 1Mil Nxt, he obviously doesn't have interest in Nxt.  If his intentions were to walk away the whole time, then hiring him was a very bad decision and his reputation will suffer.  This isn't the community's responsibility to recover funds from bad business decisions.

I agree. Close the thread. Leave this one for karma to work out. Endless discussion is what BM wants. I lost a lot, but I'm realistic, crypto is risky territory. There's no way to get the money back, and knowing bluemeanie's name & address can't help me as I live in another country.

Please lock this thread.

Support the people who are obviously trying to get things done. I support James. James might have made some bad decisions along the way, but he made them in good faith, and I believe he is an honest person trying to work constructively with other parties. He doesn't hide the fact that he wants to make money and is supremely motivated & hard working, but he's not trying to rip people off either.

Bluemeanie appears to be motivated by other things, including attention, so lock this thread and move on. By all means make contact with BM in private (I tried but could see it was going nowhere fast), but lock this 'trophy' thread asap.

We've all seen the psycho movies. This thread is like a handbag or a pair of panties to a serial killer rapist (it's a psycho trophy), and every post is giving BM a psycho rush.

The best way to get him back is to ignore him, which I'll do from now.
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'looking for attention'?

Yes, I enjoy being accused of all sorts of fraud and spending all day responding to random accusations from anonymous forum posters.

You all seem to be unable to accept my innocence.  Already you have tried to accuse me of being some supremely clever mastermind capable of captivating audiences with mysterious powers- when really all Im doing to explaining what happened.   Most of you, as of now, are unable to accept the truth of the matter.  I did absolutely nothing.

There is a lot of activity happening in these circles I don't agree with.

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