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I agree to build software to the Tech Dev committee.

James issues shares, sends me a payment, then sells the shares.  I sell none of them.

Suddenly I am responsible for everyone who is unhappy here.  There is a guy here who might have screwed you and it isn't me.

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bm you agreed to work on NxtAutoDAC, then reneged. As a major holder of the NxtAutoDAC asset and insider and lead dev for NxtAutoDAC; you better believe you have fiduciary responsibility.

Yeah, well tell that to the NxtAutoDAC Asset holders you personally hosed today with your antics and complete lack of fiduciary responsibility.

I have no fiduciary responsibility. 

1) I did not issue the asset

2) I did not sell anyone the asset.

It simply had my login name on it, which I protested.  I decided not to make this protest public in order to preserve shareholder equity.  This thread is my reward.

It was these obvious issues that were emerging which inspired me to try and start such standards with the AE.

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bm has made 0 (zero) commits to the NxtAutoDAC project.

Just to know as an outsider. how much work on this project is done?
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Let's read back where this started today.
Darkhorse expressed concern whethet you were still on the project.
This question arose directly from post made on this forum and BCT forum regarding Nxt.
There were and are legitimate doubts that anyone with such a negative view of the system he is working on will actually deliver the project he is involved in. These questions are legitimate from an investor's standpoint.

As someone who works on a project, you do have a responsibility to uphold the integrity of a project. That is normal in any project.

Your posts lead directly to uncertainty amongst the investors, leading to a loss of trust, leading to questions asked and leading to a situation where the tension became so high that it was impossible to maintain a good working relationship.

Those issues are not "absolutes", they are perceptions, and by posting this way, you are at least co responsible for the image you created of yourself, and thus legitimate doubt about your commitment to a project people invested in.

I summarise the position I read:

1 You will not return the 1 million Nxt that was paid for rendering a service, even if this service has not been rendered
2. You dispute you have ANY responsibility here, even though the posts that clearly show your negative view of the whole Nxt project and people associated are to be found easily
3. You focus on technicatilities that do not have to to with this direct issues, but rather on how different persons may read posts.

From my personal perspective, not as an admin, I see someone who is constantly not seeing that his actions, that are clearly visible, may have wider repercussions from the other responsibilities he has accepted to take on. You seem to deny the fact that trust given gives people any claim on you and refuse to accept that people may have a different opinion than yourself, especially since they placed their trust in you. Personally, I find that a naive and childisch view of the world. Adolescents may evade their responsibilities so easily and choose to think that their actions will not have repercussions. Adults should be wiser.

I sincerely hope you will choose the third road and seek an equitable solution with the best interests of the people who invested in you in mind.


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the simple fact is that James issued this asset and he sold you this asset.

I never sold any, I didnt agree to the description, I attempted to faithfully meet my obligations anyway.  James then destroyed the project, carelessly, then subsequently went and requested that I pay for the damages he caused.

A key fact here I never sold a single share.  Thus any share anyone may hold was sold by James(or distributed directly).  No where was it stated or implied that I was somehow responsible for your investment.  A telling point here is that you all disclaim any culpability from James when clearly at least SOME does exist.

More kangaroo court and blaming whomever is most easily blamed.  Obviously it's not a situation anyone wants to stay in.

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Hi, I'm Jay and I came here from Bitcointalk.

Just letting you guys know that me and my brothers are going to pay REMOVED  a visit tonight/tomorrow. I reside near REMOVED which is not too far from Mr. REMOVED. I read this post with his address.

I am not a fan of the police as I like to take care of things on my own.  Will report back.

Jay

Just let you know, the forum rules do not allow you post like this, you may be banned later.   ;)

JayM = bluemeanie1

Yep, we told you previously he had some psychological issues, hopefully he can soon buy some Prozac with NXT.
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Quote from: bluemeanie1
earlier in this thread, Evil Dave made an excuse for the theft of 1/4 million dollars.  I just couldn't stomach that at all.  This was some clueless kid's life savings no doubt.

Now, fuck me, that really is close to libel.......it's this kind of total distortion of the truth that characterises BM's interactions with everyone.

heres the original BTT post of mine:

Lots of people have represented NXT.....and John has represented more than NXT as well. Johns done NXT promo at Miami Bitcoin, TrekCon and PayExpo, so he's been present at less than 50% of the conferences NXT has attended, and always as part of a team. There's no way i'd call him the public face of NXT, let alone leader.

He and Cointropolis do have their own agenda, but up until now Cointrop and NXT worked well together. Hopefully still will in the future.
Personally, I find it very hard to believe that he ran the scam himself. Even if he netted the full 400 BTC he was aiming for, thats still only $240,000.
It's enough to have to run quite a long way to get away, but not enough to get you very far.

But: He and Cointropolis stand to gain so much more than that over the next few years, as crypto hits the mainstream. Even if NXT disappeared up it's own Genesis block tomorrow, Cointropolis could move on to represent other coins, 'coz thats what they do: alt-coin PR agency.
Being caught scamming so openly would be the end of their reputation and business, and that biz could be huge.
Johns not stupid, I can't see him throwing away massive longterm potential for short term gain and a massive shitstorm.

I'm going for the sneaky NXT insider/hack theory, until I see any actual evidence one way or the other.

BM loses yet more credibility, if that were possible.
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Hi, I'm Jay and I came here from Bitcointalk.

Just letting you guys know that me and my brothers are going to pay REMOVED a visit tonight/tomorrow. I reside near REMOVED which is not too far from Mr. REMOVED . I read this post with his address.

I am not a fan of the police as I like to take care of things on my own.  Will report back.

Jay

If anything should happen to bluemeanie, I will happily report you to the police myself.
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So it's "only $240,000" in the case of Cointropolis, but this situation, where liability has not even come close to being established, it's some sort of cardinal sin(the sum was, at most $15k).

There is a reason why no one trusts this project and this is why.  Who would risk getting entangled in this garbage?

it's like Sodom and Gomorrah in here.

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bm has made 0 (zero) commits to the NxtAutoDAC project.

Just to know as an outsider. how much work on this project is done?
Nothing done, all money spend. this is a real shame.
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Nxt will find another way; like water cutting away mountainsides into valleys.


bm has made 0 (zero) commits to the NxtAutoDAC project.

Just to know as an outsider. how much work on this project is done?
Nothing done, all money spend. this is a real shame.
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bm has made 0 (zero) commits to the NxtAutoDAC project.

Just to know as an outsider. how much work on this project is done?
Nothing done, all money spend. this is a real shame.

the only money that was spent was by the TD and I offered to refund it.

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So it's "only $240,000" in the case of Cointropolis, but this situation, where liability has not even come close to being established, it's some sort of cardinal sin(the sum was, at most $15k).

There is a reason why no one trusts this project and this is why.  Who would risk getting entangled in this garbage?

it's like Sodom and Gomorrah in here.

-bm

Except without all the arse-shagging fun....

So, does any of this ring a bell, BM, on the "at most $15k" front:

33700 Tech fund https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/10278516869046547041
1000000 NXTVenture https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/9677367184378728685
33700 Communit Fund https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/16689648276761346571
5000 jl777 https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/213921033998505729
Rest Raised with Asset and most likely you have control of that funds too still (or sold them)

First: why am I not addressing the John and "sockpuppet" issue anymore?
A1: because I already given my view on how "innocent until proven guilty" works and because "prove to me to the standards I set, or you are a sockpuppet" does not make logical sense.
A2: Because I want to address this issue:

no idea what all that stuff is.  A payment form NXTVenture to me is a 'community payment'?  how do you figure that works?

there was a community tech dev payment that I have already claimed I am willing to refund(even though I dont think I'm liable).  That was really the only credible body that was involved in this and I only intend to cooperate with them.

I am going to use this account here: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-BKPE-L5KH-2C5D-BKDXS

It's all open and for all to see:

All these payments came into your account, bluemeanie. Every single one.
Now, I find it passingly strange that if you wondered where these payments were coming from, that you stíll decided to cash out all of them not two weeks ago to bter.
The Assets were put on sale and 419333 Nxt was sent to NXT-WEC8-EV23-6U2M-2EHLP and then on to https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-AY5L-JF5R-DULG-6VQ8B, from where it was sent to https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-LSC3-VB9T-2W3V-BH7FB which is the bter account.

1'049'995 NXT was sent to bter, and yet you claim that you had no idea where it came from...

As to the Assets:

The NxtAutoDAC assets were sent on 15-05 and 01-06:
http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=6996594153988857002
http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=17775780885241000806

Bar a few, they were moved to the "intermediate" account on 02-06: http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=1871213445535284844
They are still there.

The NxtVenture Assets were sold off.

So, the question that bugs me here is that you are so adamant in attacking people and apparently baffled by people questioning your taking of funds and then bailing is such a surprising manner, killing people's investments in the process, I might add.

You yourself have made a killing two weeks ago. Some of that MAY have been legitimate wages, they MAY be not.
I dó think it's suggestive.

My last question would be: if you didn't know where those funds came from, did you think a fairy donated them?
I find that hard to believe. In our talks you have proven to be a highly intelligent person, so that just doesn't wash with me.

Edit: also, I find the message attached to this transaction very, véry sad in light of what is happening now: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/17375996629400525041



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bm has made 0 (zero) commits to the NxtAutoDAC project.

Just to know as an outsider. how much work on this project is done?
Nothing done, all money spend. this is a real shame.

the only money that was spent was by the TD and I offered to refund it.

-bm

Then you should do this and pls keep the 1m nxt for your good work and your passion for nxt and being long and strong in Autodac shares. sounds fair enough.
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basically, James just caused massive destruction with his actions and he convinced all of you that this was my fault.

who sold the shares?

who issued the asset?

these facts are inadmissible?  the only loss to the community was the TD funds which, again I offered to refund.  Again if you want to recover your money, ask James what happened to the revenues of his sale of NXTautoDAC shares.

here is the sum total of BM's revenues from the sale of NXTautoDAC: 0.000000 NXT.

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bm has made 0 (zero) commits to the NxtAutoDAC project.

Just to know as an outsider. how much work on this project is done?
Nothing done, all money spend. this is a real shame.

the only money that was spent was by the TD and I offered to refund it.

-bm

Then you should do this and pls keep the 1m nxt for your good work and your passion for nxt and being long and strong in Autodac shares. sounds fair enough.

I DID make an agreement with the TD.  I am very open to working things out with them and I'm willing to offer a full refund.

That was the 'community funds', not anything that transacted between James and I.  Again: I'm willing to offer FULL REIMBURSEMENT for community expenditures, even though I had real costs.

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bm has made 0 (zero) commits to the NxtAutoDAC project.

Just to know as an outsider. how much work on this project is done?
Nothing done, all money spend. this is a real shame.

the only money that was spent was by the TD and I offered to refund it.

-bm

Then you should do this and pls keep the 1m nxt for your good work and your passion for nxt and being long and strong in Autodac shares. sounds fair enough.

I DID make an agreement with the TD.  I am very open to working things out with them and I'm willing to offer a full refund.

That was the 'community funds', not anything that transacted between James and I.  Again: I'm willing to offer FULL REIMBURSEMENT for community expenditures, even though I had real costs.

-bm

Just return funds. You are the good guy. Maybe little bit overpayed for what you did but no problem was just money of nxtventure shareholders. Keep on with your good work. I am out.
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So it's "only $240,000" in the case of Cointropolis, but this situation, where liability has not even come close to being established, it's some sort of cardinal sin(the sum was, at most $15k).

There is a reason why no one trusts this project and this is why.  Who would risk getting entangled in this garbage?

it's like Sodom and Gomorrah in here.

-bm

Except without all the arse-shagging fun....

So, does any of this ring a bell, BM, on the "at most $15k" front:


I don't really know what all that is.  I received a payment from James.  We've already established what transacted between the 'community' and what is James' transactions that he wants people to think is really their liability, when it is not.  I offered an optimally generous settlement for any community transactions that transpired.

You should all also be clear: I was not in the least bit secretive about these factors brought to light here, certainly not with James. 

James:  what happened to all the revenues from the sale of all those IPO shares?

Basically James convinced everyone here that I was responsible for their investment when I wasn't.  Just because James sold you a share backed by my name doesn't make liable.  It is impossible that you bought a share from me.  If our rubric here is 'who made money'?  lets hear James' explanation of what happened to the sales revenue.

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Just return funds. You are the good guy. Maybe little bit overpayed for what you did but no problem was just money of nxtventure shareholders. Keep on with your good work. I am out.

a $1000 is overpaying?  some of the devs on the TD even admitted this was incredibly low and even offered more later on.

try thinking next time you try and blame an innocent person for cheating you.

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Just return funds. You are the good guy. Maybe little bit overpayed for what you did but no problem was just money of nxtventure shareholders. Keep on with your good work. I am out.

a $1000 is overpaying?  some of the devs on the TD even admitted this was incredibly low and even offered more later on.

try thinking next time you try and blame an innocent person for cheating you.

-bm

Sorry your so right 1000 USD for no work is not enough. But I meant the 1m nxt from nxtventure shareholders as you might know.  You call it the transaction with James and you do not want to discuss about that. Please no answer required!
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Just return funds. You are the good guy. Maybe little bit overpayed for what you did but no problem was just money of nxtventure shareholders. Keep on with your good work. I am out.

a $1000 is overpaying?  some of the devs on the TD even admitted this was incredibly low and even offered more later on.

try thinking next time you try and blame an innocent person for cheating you.

-bm

Sorry your so right 1000 USD for no work is not enough. But I meant the 1m nxt from nxtventure shareholders as you might know.  You call it the transaction with James and you do not want to discuss about that. Please no answer required!

I don't appreciate you claiming I did no work, because it's simply not true.

This other sum of money could have turned into much more if James was a bit more tactful in settling his issues.

What you are all doing is accepting an invalid storyline that is convenient, and as I've established here- untrue.  The fact is Im not appreciative at all of how things are handled in this forum, and I stated that long before these undue charges were brought against me.

So let me get your story straight?  James has ZERO culpability here?  even though he sold the shares and I cautiously kept those I had in my possession out of fear that something like this would happen.  Apparently taking these precautions has no bearing on this discussion.

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