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Re: jl777 availability status
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2014, 02:48:35 pm »

For example a company that charges a percentage of business as fees in nxt should grow right along with nxt

Just if the business is backed up by nxt?

Otherwise the amount of nxt dividends will get smaller with a higher price for every nxt and the dividends would be shrinking with nxt growing.
A business that is nxt based will grow with nxt

Yes, but not 1 to 1. If a business is successful competition arises and eats away profit margins. Even if you have your earnings and profits in nxt, it is very hard to keep the same volume and profit if nxt tenfolds or hunderfolds in fiat value.
Well if nxt hundredfolds, assets underperforming nxt will be a small concern :)
With assets tending to trade opposite of nxt price it seems to offer a natural hedge that keeps overall portfolio value less volatile

Anyway i am used to beating the odds and i intend to do this

Let us meet here in one year and see who is right

James
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2014, 03:05:17 pm »

For example a company that charges a percentage of business as fees in nxt should grow right along with nxt

Just if the business is backed up by nxt?

Otherwise the amount of nxt dividends will get smaller with a higher price for every nxt and the dividends would be shrinking with nxt growing.
A business that is nxt based will grow with nxt

Yes, but not 1 to 1. If a business is successful competition arises and eats away profit margins. Even if you have your earnings and profits in nxt, it is very hard to keep the same volume and profit if nxt tenfolds or hunderfolds in fiat value.
Well if nxt hundredfolds, assets underperforming nxt will be a small concern :)
With assets tending to trade opposite of nxt price it seems to offer a natural hedge that keeps overall portfolio value less volatile

Anyway i am used to beating the odds and i intend to do this

Let us meet here in one year and see who is right

James

Well, I've seen some make a fortune though on those crypto stock markets. The trick is to be the issuer of the stocks. And then hold all those cryptocoins you get while the shares you sold tank into oblivion.

Hell, trow in some insider trading while your at it, and even when the SEC comes knocking on your door, you will be fined $30k or something, and can keep the millions.   

You are definitely not beating the odds by being the one who issues and sells stocks. You made your fortune already. Your investors are though.
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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2014, 03:09:55 pm »


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Anyway i am used to beating the odds and i intend to do this

Let us meet here in one year and see who is right

James

+1

Me too. Entrepreneurial spirit.

Anything that you want to last and stand for a long time, it's requires nurturing, experienced hands, careful decision making, time to develop and a balanced environment. It's a long term venture this one.
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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2014, 03:29:45 pm »

For example a company that charges a percentage of business as fees in nxt should grow right along with nxt

Just if the business is backed up by nxt?

Otherwise the amount of nxt dividends will get smaller with a higher price for every nxt and the dividends would be shrinking with nxt growing.
A business that is nxt based will grow with nxt

Yes, but not 1 to 1. If a business is successful competition arises and eats away profit margins. Even if you have your earnings and profits in nxt, it is very hard to keep the same volume and profit if nxt tenfolds or hunderfolds in fiat value.
Well if nxt hundredfolds, assets underperforming nxt will be a small concern :)
With assets tending to trade opposite of nxt price it seems to offer a natural hedge that keeps overall portfolio value less volatile

Anyway i am used to beating the odds and i intend to do this

Let us meet here in one year and see who is right

James

Well, I've seen some make a fortune though on those crypto stock markets. The trick is to be the issuer of the stocks. And then hold all those cryptocoins you get while the shares you sold tank into oblivion.

Hell, trow in some insider trading while your at it, and even when the SEC comes knocking on your door, you will be fined $30k or something, and can keep the millions.   

You are definitely not beating the odds by being the one who issues and sells stocks. You made your fortune already. Your investors are though.
I have sold very little of my assets, other than to pre-ae private investors
I am holding and bulding value
I also reinvested almost all of what i did sell into assets, mine and other issuers

Having paper market cap of staggering amount is certainly better than not having it, but until my assets are generating regular dividends and this creates a lot more liquidity, i am really not that much better off. I have been able to give away about twenty million nxt worth of assets, that is good to make dozens of people more vested in nxt.

I am not sure but it is possible that i have given away more nxt value than anybody other than bcnext
I could have just kept it all and slowly sold off daily to hoard mor nxt, but i have always been working toward making nxt as valuable as i can

This requires as many people who are highly motivated to improve nxt as possible
This is why i am confident that nxt will beat the 100:1 odds, we have an unfair advantage of highly qualified people who are fully motivated. Very power combination

James

P.s. I also find you insinuation of insider trading a bit offensive, why do you make such personal attack claims without evidence? I thought you were an honorable guy, not a name caller
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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2014, 04:30:21 pm »

For example a company that charges a percentage of business as fees in nxt should grow right along with nxt

Just if the business is backed up by nxt?

Otherwise the amount of nxt dividends will get smaller with a higher price for every nxt and the dividends would be shrinking with nxt growing.
A business that is nxt based will grow with nxt

Yes, but not 1 to 1. If a business is successful competition arises and eats away profit margins. Even if you have your earnings and profits in nxt, it is very hard to keep the same volume and profit if nxt tenfolds or hunderfolds in fiat value.
Well if nxt hundredfolds, assets underperforming nxt will be a small concern :)
With assets tending to trade opposite of nxt price it seems to offer a natural hedge that keeps overall portfolio value less volatile

Anyway i am used to beating the odds and i intend to do this

Let us meet here in one year and see who is right

James

Well, I've seen some make a fortune though on those crypto stock markets. The trick is to be the issuer of the stocks. And then hold all those cryptocoins you get while the shares you sold tank into oblivion.

Hell, trow in some insider trading while your at it, and even when the SEC comes knocking on your door, you will be fined $30k or something, and can keep the millions.   

You are definitely not beating the odds by being the one who issues and sells stocks. You made your fortune already. Your investors are though.
I have sold very little of my assets, other than to pre-ae private investors
I am holding and bulding value
I also reinvested almost all of what i did sell into assets, mine and other issuers

Having paper market cap of staggering amount is certainly better than not having it, but until my assets are generating regular dividends and this creates a lot more liquidity, i am really not that much better off. I have been able to give away about twenty million nxt worth of assets, that is good to make dozens of people more vested in nxt.

I am not sure but it is possible that i have given away more nxt value than anybody other than bcnext
I could have just kept it all and slowly sold off daily to hoard mor nxt, but i have always been working toward making nxt as valuable as i can

This requires as many people who are highly motivated to improve nxt as possible
This is why i am confident that nxt will beat the 100:1 odds, we have an unfair advantage of highly qualified people who are fully motivated. Very power combination

James

P.s. I also find you insinuation of insider trading a bit offensive, why do you make such personal attack claims without evidence? I thought you were an honorable guy, not a name caller

I'm sorry you feel offended. I wasn't refering to you about the insider trading but to some I have seen making a fortune in the bitcoin world. On top of selling loads of shares for btc, they would use their insider knowledge as CEO to buy or sell stock at the expense of their investors. I can see how it looked I was insinuating you do this too. I'm sorry. I don't think that. I have no opinion on that.

I do see that you are getting a lot of nxt from investors, and I think that you will very likely not be able to grow those nxt into more nxt.

I haven't followed your assets in detail but for example Graviton is clearly such a sharp entrepreneur. I think he got 20 million nxt or something by selling 30% of his company. This 20 million nxt is not for the company but for him. It is extremely likely that those investors will never see those nxt back because of their shares tanking in nxt value the moment nxt goes up.

Are your assets the same structure? The nxt you get in return for the shares, do they become yours (company structure), or are they owned by the asset (fund structure)?
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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2014, 03:19:54 am »

For example a company that charges a percentage of business as fees in nxt should grow right along with nxt

Just if the business is backed up by nxt?

Otherwise the amount of nxt dividends will get smaller with a higher price for every nxt and the dividends would be shrinking with nxt growing.
A business that is nxt based will grow with nxt

Yes, but not 1 to 1. If a business is successful competition arises and eats away profit margins. Even if you have your earnings and profits in nxt, it is very hard to keep the same volume and profit if nxt tenfolds or hunderfolds in fiat value.
Well if nxt hundredfolds, assets underperforming nxt will be a small concern :)
With assets tending to trade opposite of nxt price it seems to offer a natural hedge that keeps overall portfolio value less volatile

Anyway i am used to beating the odds and i intend to do this

Let us meet here in one year and see who is right

James

Well, I've seen some make a fortune though on those crypto stock markets. The trick is to be the issuer of the stocks. And then hold all those cryptocoins you get while the shares you sold tank into oblivion.

Hell, trow in some insider trading while your at it, and even when the SEC comes knocking on your door, you will be fined $30k or something, and can keep the millions.   

You are definitely not beating the odds by being the one who issues and sells stocks. You made your fortune already. Your investors are though.
I have sold very little of my assets, other than to pre-ae private investors
I am holding and bulding value
I also reinvested almost all of what i did sell into assets, mine and other issuers

Having paper market cap of staggering amount is certainly better than not having it, but until my assets are generating regular dividends and this creates a lot more liquidity, i am really not that much better off. I have been able to give away about twenty million nxt worth of assets, that is good to make dozens of people more vested in nxt.

I am not sure but it is possible that i have given away more nxt value than anybody other than bcnext
I could have just kept it all and slowly sold off daily to hoard mor nxt, but i have always been working toward making nxt as valuable as i can

This requires as many people who are highly motivated to improve nxt as possible
This is why i am confident that nxt will beat the 100:1 odds, we have an unfair advantage of highly qualified people who are fully motivated. Very power combination

James

P.s. I also find you insinuation of insider trading a bit offensive, why do you make such personal attack claims without evidence? I thought you were an honorable guy, not a name caller

I'm sorry you feel offended. I wasn't refering to you about the insider trading but to some I have seen making a fortune in the bitcoin world. On top of selling loads of shares for btc, they would use their insider knowledge as CEO to buy or sell stock at the expense of their investors. I can see how it looked I was insinuating you do this too. I'm sorry. I don't think that. I have no opinion on that.

I do see that you are getting a lot of nxt from investors, and I think that you will very likely not be able to grow those nxt into more nxt.

I haven't followed your assets in detail but for example Graviton is clearly such a sharp entrepreneur. I think he got 20 million nxt or something by selling 30% of his company. This 20 million nxt is not for the company but for him. It is extremely likely that those investors will never see those nxt back because of their shares tanking in nxt value the moment nxt goes up.

Are your assets the same structure? The nxt you get in return for the shares, do they become yours (company structure), or are they owned by the asset (fund structure)?
I did not do IPO for my assets (InstantDEX, NXTcoinsco, NXTventure)
I sold privately to a small number of investors and all funds were put into the asset itself. I did not personally get the NXT from the investors.
I did put relatively small amounts for sale on AE and all proceeds went back into the asset.
Since the operating companies currently dont have much cash expenses, I consolidated the NXT in the assets mostly into sharkfund0, again I am not personally getting the NXT.

I have been very careful to segregate my personal trading from the company tradings. A few times I made mistakes thinking I was in one acct and not the other, but I made corrections and I also do any asset exchanging at then current market prices

You are welcome to analyze the activity of any of my assets.

The bulk of my personal NXT gains came from my DRK and XCP investments, which netted me over 400 BTC, plus I had sold all my other assets to buy NXT and worked hard to get bounties, etc. I have put most of this into sharkfund0 also.

Whatever performance sharkfund0 gets for the investors, I will personally be getting the same results, along with the asset companies that consolidated into it. So, while you could be right about not being able to match NXT, especially if it goes up 100-fold, investors in sharkfund0 will get the same result as I do. I think aligning the financial interests of the management with the investors is a critical factor in the long term success of any for-profit enterprise.

I am currently taking a salary of 0 NXT per month and as long as I have personal liquidity, I dont expect that I will take a salary. The total overhead of all my asset companies is less than $1500 per month and I am planning on reducing that by cutting down the number of dedicated servers now that there are virtual servers that can be paid for in NXT

James

P.S. bithaus asset is the only exception as that is a passthru asset and I am not managing the nxthaus operating co in any way, I am just a passive investor in it.
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« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2014, 10:17:33 pm »

I'm sorry you feel offended. I wasn't refering to you about the insider trading but to some I have seen making a fortune in the bitcoin world. On top of selling loads of shares for btc, they would use their insider knowledge as CEO to buy or sell stock at the expense of their investors. I can see how it looked I was insinuating you do this too. I'm sorry. I don't think that. I have no opinion on that.

I do see that you are getting a lot of nxt from investors, and I think that you will very likely not be able to grow those nxt into more nxt.

I haven't followed your assets in detail but for example Graviton is clearly such a sharp entrepreneur. I think he got 20 million nxt or something by selling 30% of his company. This 20 million nxt is not for the company but for him. It is extremely likely that those investors will never see those nxt back because of their shares tanking in nxt value the moment nxt goes up.

Are your assets the same structure? The nxt you get in return for the shares, do they become yours (company structure), or are they owned by the asset (fund structure)?
I did not do IPO for my assets (InstantDEX, NXTcoinsco, NXTventure)
I sold privately to a small number of investors and all funds were put into the asset itself. I did not personally get the NXT from the investors.
I did put relatively small amounts for sale on AE and all proceeds went back into the asset.
Since the operating companies currently dont have much cash expenses, I consolidated the NXT in the assets mostly into sharkfund0, again I am not personally getting the NXT.

I have been very careful to segregate my personal trading from the company tradings. A few times I made mistakes thinking I was in one acct and not the other, but I made corrections and I also do any asset exchanging at then current market prices

You are welcome to analyze the activity of any of my assets.

The bulk of my personal NXT gains came from my DRK and XCP investments, which netted me over 400 BTC, plus I had sold all my other assets to buy NXT and worked hard to get bounties, etc. I have put most of this into sharkfund0 also.

Whatever performance sharkfund0 gets for the investors, I will personally be getting the same results, along with the asset companies that consolidated into it. So, while you could be right about not being able to match NXT, especially if it goes up 100-fold, investors in sharkfund0 will get the same result as I do. I think aligning the financial interests of the management with the investors is a critical factor in the long term success of any for-profit enterprise.

I am currently taking a salary of 0 NXT per month and as long as I have personal liquidity, I dont expect that I will take a salary. The total overhead of all my asset companies is less than $1500 per month and I am planning on reducing that by cutting down the number of dedicated servers now that there are virtual servers that can be paid for in NXT

James

P.S. bithaus asset is the only exception as that is a passthru asset and I am not managing the nxthaus operating co in any way, I am just a passive investor in it.

Good to hear James. Great actually.

I haven't invested in your assets, it's too complicated for me, and it makes me suspect you are trying to fool me.

I get the impression with your answers here that you are honest. I hope you succeed in making your offerings easy to understand.

Genius, and beauty, is in simplicity, not complexity.
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« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2014, 10:46:16 pm »

I'm sorry you feel offended. I wasn't refering to you about the insider trading but to some I have seen making a fortune in the bitcoin world. On top of selling loads of shares for btc, they would use their insider knowledge as CEO to buy or sell stock at the expense of their investors. I can see how it looked I was insinuating you do this too. I'm sorry. I don't think that. I have no opinion on that.

I do see that you are getting a lot of nxt from investors, and I think that you will very likely not be able to grow those nxt into more nxt.

I haven't followed your assets in detail but for example Graviton is clearly such a sharp entrepreneur. I think he got 20 million nxt or something by selling 30% of his company. This 20 million nxt is not for the company but for him. It is extremely likely that those investors will never see those nxt back because of their shares tanking in nxt value the moment nxt goes up.

Are your assets the same structure? The nxt you get in return for the shares, do they become yours (company structure), or are they owned by the asset (fund structure)?
I did not do IPO for my assets (InstantDEX, NXTcoinsco, NXTventure)
I sold privately to a small number of investors and all funds were put into the asset itself. I did not personally get the NXT from the investors.
I did put relatively small amounts for sale on AE and all proceeds went back into the asset.
Since the operating companies currently dont have much cash expenses, I consolidated the NXT in the assets mostly into sharkfund0, again I am not personally getting the NXT.

I have been very careful to segregate my personal trading from the company tradings. A few times I made mistakes thinking I was in one acct and not the other, but I made corrections and I also do any asset exchanging at then current market prices

You are welcome to analyze the activity of any of my assets.

The bulk of my personal NXT gains came from my DRK and XCP investments, which netted me over 400 BTC, plus I had sold all my other assets to buy NXT and worked hard to get bounties, etc. I have put most of this into sharkfund0 also.

Whatever performance sharkfund0 gets for the investors, I will personally be getting the same results, along with the asset companies that consolidated into it. So, while you could be right about not being able to match NXT, especially if it goes up 100-fold, investors in sharkfund0 will get the same result as I do. I think aligning the financial interests of the management with the investors is a critical factor in the long term success of any for-profit enterprise.

I am currently taking a salary of 0 NXT per month and as long as I have personal liquidity, I dont expect that I will take a salary. The total overhead of all my asset companies is less than $1500 per month and I am planning on reducing that by cutting down the number of dedicated servers now that there are virtual servers that can be paid for in NXT

James

P.S. bithaus asset is the only exception as that is a passthru asset and I am not managing the nxthaus operating co in any way, I am just a passive investor in it.

Good to hear James. Great actually.

I haven't invested in your assets, it's too complicated for me, and it makes me suspect you are trying to fool me.

I get the impression with your answers here that you are honest. I hope you succeed in making your offerings easy to understand.

Genius, and beauty, is in simplicity, not complexity.
I know, anybody can create a complicated solution to a complicated problem, but only a genius can create a simple solution to a complicated problem.

So we have proof that I am not a genius. I never claimed to be.

I am a generalist that works many, many hours. Sometimes things get complicated as I am not smart enough to see the simple solution.

James
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« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2014, 01:39:23 am »

I'm sorry you feel offended. I wasn't refering to you about the insider trading but to some I have seen making a fortune in the bitcoin world. On top of selling loads of shares for btc, they would use their insider knowledge as CEO to buy or sell stock at the expense of their investors. I can see how it looked I was insinuating you do this too. I'm sorry. I don't think that. I have no opinion on that.

I do see that you are getting a lot of nxt from investors, and I think that you will very likely not be able to grow those nxt into more nxt.

I haven't followed your assets in detail but for example Graviton is clearly such a sharp entrepreneur. I think he got 20 million nxt or something by selling 30% of his company. This 20 million nxt is not for the company but for him. It is extremely likely that those investors will never see those nxt back because of their shares tanking in nxt value the moment nxt goes up.

Are your assets the same structure? The nxt you get in return for the shares, do they become yours (company structure), or are they owned by the asset (fund structure)?
I did not do IPO for my assets (InstantDEX, NXTcoinsco, NXTventure)
I sold privately to a small number of investors and all funds were put into the asset itself. I did not personally get the NXT from the investors.
I did put relatively small amounts for sale on AE and all proceeds went back into the asset.
Since the operating companies currently dont have much cash expenses, I consolidated the NXT in the assets mostly into sharkfund0, again I am not personally getting the NXT.

I have been very careful to segregate my personal trading from the company tradings. A few times I made mistakes thinking I was in one acct and not the other, but I made corrections and I also do any asset exchanging at then current market prices

You are welcome to analyze the activity of any of my assets.

The bulk of my personal NXT gains came from my DRK and XCP investments, which netted me over 400 BTC, plus I had sold all my other assets to buy NXT and worked hard to get bounties, etc. I have put most of this into sharkfund0 also.

Whatever performance sharkfund0 gets for the investors, I will personally be getting the same results, along with the asset companies that consolidated into it. So, while you could be right about not being able to match NXT, especially if it goes up 100-fold, investors in sharkfund0 will get the same result as I do. I think aligning the financial interests of the management with the investors is a critical factor in the long term success of any for-profit enterprise.

I am currently taking a salary of 0 NXT per month and as long as I have personal liquidity, I dont expect that I will take a salary. The total overhead of all my asset companies is less than $1500 per month and I am planning on reducing that by cutting down the number of dedicated servers now that there are virtual servers that can be paid for in NXT

James

P.S. bithaus asset is the only exception as that is a passthru asset and I am not managing the nxthaus operating co in any way, I am just a passive investor in it.

Good to hear James. Great actually.

I haven't invested in your assets, it's too complicated for me, and it makes me suspect you are trying to fool me.

I get the impression with your answers here that you are honest. I hope you succeed in making your offerings easy to understand.

Genius, and beauty, is in simplicity, not complexity.
I know, anybody can create a complicated solution to a complicated problem, but only a genius can create a simple solution to a complicated problem.

So we have proof that I am not a genius. I never claimed to be.

I am a generalist that works many, many hours. Sometimes things get complicated as I am not smart enough to see the simple solution.

James
James, you are right to support you.
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