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NXTinspect is an initiative that provides investors the necessary information to make informed trading decisions.  Our service looks to promote legitimate assets, while highlighting suspicious activity/ scams.

Services:
- Reviews
- Due diligence reports
- Consultations/ advice
- Audits
- Escrow
- Early access subscription

Pricing:
- Quotes

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- whale
- chanc3r
- jefdiesel

Partners:
- SuperNET
- NXTreporting
- BOOST
- More coming soon!

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NXTinspect ANN: https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/(ann)-nxtinspect-the-first-cryptoaudit-service/msg109524/#msg109524
« Last Edit: December 05, 2014, 11:04:42 am by chanc3r »
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Re: NXT AE Reviews and Due Diligence Reports
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2014, 04:47:17 am »

I'm glad to see something like this is in the works.  It'll be hard to root out all the scams.  Unfortunately, the best scams look legitimate.
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Re: NXT AE Reviews and Due Diligence Reports
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2014, 07:48:12 am »

wonderful! first asset rating organization. good luck!
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Re: NXT AE Reviews and Due Diligence Reports
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2014, 09:27:17 am »

Nice one. It's much needed.
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Re: NXT AE Reviews and Due Diligence Reports
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2014, 12:48:13 pm »

I've been really busy these last few days but we are on track. There will be some more information and a huge announcement very soon!
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Re: NXTinspect - Quality Assurance for the NXT Asset Exchange
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2014, 10:56:28 am »

Looking forward to your announcement regarding the project..

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Re: NXTinspect - Quality Assurance for the NXT Asset Exchange
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2014, 11:00:42 am »

haha  :) very soon is not soon enought for me :P
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Re: NXTinspect - Quality Assurance for the NXT Asset Exchange
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2014, 11:49:56 am »

haha  :) very soon is not soon enought for me :P

We've fast tracked our launch after that evolve incident and we will be offering double the amount of services than originally planned. I also have a number of partnerships to announce :)

Hoping to have everything finalized within 72 hours. Stay tuned!


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Re: NXTinspect - Quality Assurance for the NXT Asset Exchange
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2014, 12:04:07 pm »

This is very needed.
We will support your initiative.
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Re: NXTinspect - Quality Assurance for the NXT Asset Exchange
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2014, 12:31:11 am »

NXTInspect asset was released today, with 30% of shares listed at 1NXT.

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=5655.msg109465#msg109465

This initial offering immediately sold out, so it can be roughly assumed that some thinks we are on the right track.
Thanks and looking forward to working with you.

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Re: NXTinspect - Quality Assurance for the NXT Asset Exchange
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2014, 04:44:41 am »

How do you prove your correctness, only two individuals to buy.
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Re: NXTinspect - Quality Assurance for the NXT Asset Exchange
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2014, 05:11:42 am »

Cool project! :)
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Due to some confusion, I have temporarily disable the NXTinspect subscription thread. It will return with greater clarification shortly.
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Thanks for the clarifications!

I'm sorry you found my comments ill-informed 'conspiracy theories'. This is crypto, and I've been around a while. I did not mean to offend you, but insider trading is rife in all financial markets, and I can't remember you mentioning excluding jl777 assets in your previous posts, and he is a large shareholder in NXTinspect. I did assume you were involved with NXTventures as you are with SuperNET, but if that is incorrect then I have been enlightened, so thanks. I really don't think that error counts as a conspiracy theory, especially as you and jl777 are obviously working on many interrelated projects simultaneously, and you previously worked together on fuzon. You are connected, and their is *potential* for a conflict of interest. If you answer genuine queries as ill-informed conspiracy theories then you look far more paranoid than the questioner IMO.

I did not assume the early bird was compulsory, that's why I asked about it. If it's not then my own feeling is most asset issuers would probably avoid this option, as it offers them no advantages, but it could cause them problems with later buyers of their assets getting pissed at missing the better price. When and how assets are listed is obviously a touchy subject. The jinn dutch auction is probably the fairest version so far, plenty of advanced warning and very transparent.

I wish your venture all the best in the future.

edit: Oh, you deleted my original post and your reply.

edit2: Well here is my original "ill informed conspiracy post" which was still in my browser. Your deleted reply is gone though. Not good to delete honest posts made in good faith IMO, but it is your thread I guess.

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I thought  NXTinspect was going to be more like a third party rating agency trying to prevent scam assets. It sounds more like a subsidiary of NXTventures/SuperNET now. That might not be a bad thing, but same personnel heavily involved here, so I can't imagine Whale will ever write a bad review of an asset that Whale himself is pushing through NXTventures/SuperNET.

Is this really a NXTventure/SuperNET/NXTinspect commission. What if I create an asset and pay NXTinspect to vet my activities, but I don't want to give your subscribers the early bird access? Would that be possible, or is the early bird access for your customers compulsory? Is NXTinspect really interested in rating NXTventure assets only? This would be perfectly acceptable, but if that was true then I hope another group might consider setting up a more community based alternative. NXTinspect seems unambiguously 'for profit', which is fine, but a not-for-profit alternative (that still paid wages) would obviously be 100% impartial to ALL asset listings.

I look forward to following and watching what happens with this.
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Due to some confusion, I have temporarily disable the NXTinspect subscription thread. It will return with greater clarification shortly.

is "confusion" the part were you say :
Quote"There have been cases where initial asset offerings are being sold out instantly. With a subscription you will be notified about the assets launch and you will have fewer people competing for assets. You will have a 24 hour advantage to buy assets before they are released to the forum."UNQUOTE ?

Sure you will have to clarify if , wether or not, you intend to use you position in the forum organization to retain information from forum users during 24h to monetize it at your, or NXTInspect advantage.
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Id like to offer a constructive suggestion. I think the NXT ecosystem really needs a service like NXTinspect, but the problem is how does it generate an income to pay for the costs involved, including wages. IMO a good model to consider is coinssource.com. Those guys have very quickly established themselves as quality impartial information source for alt coins, and they use a combo of good free articles, and then a premium paid service. That combo works well and is more traditional for rating services. Coinssource have also issued their own alt coin (SRC) and they're in the process of integrating that into their website to monetise certain activities on the site. Maybe Coinssource version for NXT assets is a good model to consider.
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Id like to offer a constructive suggestion. I think the NXT ecosystem really needs a service like NXTinspect, but the problem is how does it generate an income to pay for the costs involved, including wages. IMO a good model to consider is coinssource.com. Those guys have very quickly established themselves as quality impartial information source for alt coins, and they use a combo of good free articles, and then a premium paid service. That combo works well and is more traditional for rating services. Coinssource have also issued their own alt coin (SRC) and they're in the process of integrating that into their website to monetise certain activities on the site. Maybe Coinssource version for NXT assets is a good model to consider.

Thanks for the constructive suggestion, we are looking at those models and think NXT has the ability to support monetisation without issuing another 'coin', the asset issue was to get us going, information is valuable and that is what we believe will create revenue if we get this right.

I can understand conspiracy theories and I will not argue with conspiracy theorists because that usually only convinces them that they are more right.

Regarding my personal position many analysts when they write have to declare what they hold, fortunately with NXT this is not necessary you can just look up my account in one of the explorers (no I don't have sock puppets can't be bothered), what you can't see is that this account is about 0.5% of my personal wealth, its the highest risk and has huge potential so I'm not going to game some small shares somewhere and screw it all up.

We are NOT a subsidiary of anyone, and anyone can ask us to produce an opinion but they can't tell us what that opinion should be, if they find the opinion valuable then maybe they will ask for more..

NXTventure bought the 250k assets, I didn't know when I listed it that was going to happen and we are determined when the rest is placed that does not happen. I hold NXTventure and SuperNET and I work on some of JL777 projects but mostly in support of my investments and if I think something of Jame's is crap I will say so because I will want him to fix it.

Some people will trust us and use our services, some won't, if enough do and we provide a good service this little business will generate a reasonable return, if they don't it will fold and others doubtless will come along and have a go but for now we are here and are busily working on getting this up and running.

Our communications are not perfect and sometimes like the one earlier which was removed get confused, ironically we QA and review each others analysis, we really should apply this to our forum posts about the service features and will be doing this in future.
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Thanks for the clarifications!

I'm sorry you found my comments ill-informed 'conspiracy theories'. This is crypto, and I've been around a while. I did not mean to offend you, but insider trading is rife in all financial markets, and I can't remember you mentioning excluding jl777 assets in your previous posts, and he is a large shareholder in NXTinspect. I did assume you were involved with NXTventures as you are with SuperNET, but if that is incorrect then I have been enlightened, so thanks. I really don't think that error counts as a conspiracy theory, especially as you and jl777 are obviously working on many interrelated projects simultaneously, and you previously worked together on fuzon. You are connected, and their is *potential* for a conflict of interest. If you answer genuine queries as ill-informed conspiracy theories then you look far more paranoid than the questioner IMO.

I did not assume the early bird was compulsory, that's why I asked about it. If it's not then my own feeling is most asset issuers would probably avoid this option, as it offers them no advantages, but it could cause them problems with later buyers of their assets getting pissed at missing the better price. When and how assets are listed is obviously a touchy subject. The jinn dutch auction is probably the fairest version so far, plenty of advanced warning and very transparent.

I wish your venture all the best in the future.

edit: Oh, you deleted my original post and your reply.

edit2: Well here is my original "ill informed conspiracy post" which was still in my browser. Your deleted reply is gone though. Not good to delete honest posts made in good faith IMO, but it is your thread I guess.

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I thought  NXTinspect was going to be more like a third party rating agency trying to prevent scam assets. It sounds more like a subsidiary of NXTventures/SuperNET now. That might not be a bad thing, but same personnel heavily involved here, so I can't imagine Whale will ever write a bad review of an asset that Whale himself is pushing through NXTventures/SuperNET.

Is this really a NXTventure/SuperNET/NXTinspect commission. What if I create an asset and pay NXTinspect to vet my activities, but I don't want to give your subscribers the early bird access? Would that be possible, or is the early bird access for your customers compulsory? Is NXTinspect really interested in rating NXTventure assets only? This would be perfectly acceptable, but if that was true then I hope another group might consider setting up a more community based alternative. NXTinspect seems unambiguously 'for profit', which is fine, but a not-for-profit alternative (that still paid wages) would obviously be 100% impartial to ALL asset listings.

I look forward to following and watching what happens with this.

John if you insist on trolling our thread, you will find all of your posts deleted. If you simply took the time to read my post above yours, it states why the thread was deleted.

I stated your post was a conspiracy theory because it was not supported with any substance behind your claims other than I am a friend of James. Everything you 'questioned' has not been mentioned anywhere, therefore why would you bring this up? At no point have we said that we are owned by anyone. Here's more enlightenment for you (as you put it). I'm only working on SuperNET with James so I don't understand what this means "especially as you and jl777 are obviously working on many interrelated projects simultaneously".

I agree. I haven't been following the Jinn sale too much but I like the idea. It lets the market decide what it is worth. It could definitely be an option for our second offering.

Thank you for your support. If you need further clarification or have any other questions, please don't hesitate to message me.

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Thanks for the clarifications!

I'm sorry you found my comments ill-informed 'conspiracy theories'. This is crypto, and I've been around a while. I did not mean to offend you, but insider trading is rife in all financial markets, and I can't remember you mentioning excluding jl777 assets in your previous posts, and he is a large shareholder in NXTinspect. I did assume you were involved with NXTventures as you are with SuperNET, but if that is incorrect then I have been enlightened, so thanks. I really don't think that error counts as a conspiracy theory, especially as you and jl777 are obviously working on many interrelated projects simultaneously, and you previously worked together on fuzon. You are connected, and their is *potential* for a conflict of interest. If you answer genuine queries as ill-informed conspiracy theories then you look far more paranoid than the questioner IMO.

I did not assume the early bird was compulsory, that's why I asked about it. If it's not then my own feeling is most asset issuers would probably avoid this option, as it offers them no advantages, but it could cause them problems with later buyers of their assets getting pissed at missing the better price. When and how assets are listed is obviously a touchy subject. The jinn dutch auction is probably the fairest version so far, plenty of advanced warning and very transparent.

I wish your venture all the best in the future.

edit: Oh, you deleted my original post and your reply.

edit2: Well here is my original "ill informed conspiracy post" which was still in my browser. Your deleted reply is gone though. Not good to delete honest posts made in good faith IMO, but it is your thread I guess.

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I thought  NXTinspect was going to be more like a third party rating agency trying to prevent scam assets. It sounds more like a subsidiary of NXTventures/SuperNET now. That might not be a bad thing, but same personnel heavily involved here, so I can't imagine Whale will ever write a bad review of an asset that Whale himself is pushing through NXTventures/SuperNET.

Is this really a NXTventure/SuperNET/NXTinspect commission. What if I create an asset and pay NXTinspect to vet my activities, but I don't want to give your subscribers the early bird access? Would that be possible, or is the early bird access for your customers compulsory? Is NXTinspect really interested in rating NXTventure assets only? This would be perfectly acceptable, but if that was true then I hope another group might consider setting up a more community based alternative. NXTinspect seems unambiguously 'for profit', which is fine, but a not-for-profit alternative (that still paid wages) would obviously be 100% impartial to ALL asset listings.

I look forward to following and watching what happens with this.

John if you insist on trolling our thread, you will find all of your posts deleted. If you simply took the time to read my post above yours, it states why the thread was deleted.

I stated your post was a conspiracy theory because it was not supported with any substance behind your claims other than I am a friend of James. Everything you 'questioned' has not been mentioned anywhere, therefore why would you bring this up? At no point have we said that we are owned by anyone. Here's more enlightenment for you (as you put it). I'm only working on SuperNET with James so I don't understand what this means "especially as you and jl777 are obviously working on many interrelated projects simultaneously".

I agree. I haven't been following the Jinn sale too much but I like the idea. It lets the market decide what it is worth. It could definitely be an option for our second offering.

Thank you for your support. If you need further clarification or have any other questions, please don't hesitate to message me.

I'm so sorry you think I was trolling your thread. My intention was to get more information on your plans for NXTinspect as my first impression from your original announcement was the goal was to create more of a community focused rating agency, but your subsequent post regarding the subscription and early bird access for your subscribers had a very different tone. I did not mean to imply I thought any of the people involved were dishonest, far from it I think the members of your team have very good reputations that have been well earned. jl777 has always acted honestly, and he's set a new standard in the crypto industry for transparency and honest dealings. I have no doubt you will act honestly, but I do think you have overreacted to my post, but I can understand why.

This is a small community, and people will perform many functions at the same time, that is understandable, but when there is a 'potential' conflict of interest the best approach IMO is communication. I'll leave it for others to judge, but you edited your original subscription post to remove the early bird references, and you later clarified that jl777 assets will not be reviewed by NXTinspect. I think if those two changes were in the original announcement I would not have been so strong in my original post, and the 'potential' for even a perceived conflict of interest would have been greatly reduced.

Perceived conflicts of interest, whether real or not can cause perception problems. Hank Paulson may well be a very honest person, but most reasonable people would argue that there clearly existed a perception of a potential conflict of interest when he left as chairman of Goldman Sachs to become Secretary of the Treasury, and then later crafted the bank bailouts of 2009. To raise that possibility when seeking clarification might be trolling, but maybe it's genuine concern to see what's really going on. Paulson probably thought those who enquired of his potential conflict were just ill-informed conspiracy theorists, but I think most reasonable people would acknowledge that it wasn't 'a good look'. That doesn't mean they are accusing him of anything, just pointing out a possibility.

Anyway, I will not post again in any of your threads, and I do sincerely wish you well as NXT needs to limit future scam assets. Just to be very clear about things, I think NXTinspect is being run by honest people. Good luck!
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I bought the NXTinspect totally on my own without any notice to or from the NXTinspect team
I knew they were coming out with something and when they did, I pounced at the good deal. I invest in good people, and they are all good people. When I see good trades, I just automatically click, click, done. So I didnt even think about the potential for looking like conflict of interest.

However, it seems there could be an appearance of conflict since I am involved in dozens of different projects. So I will divest NXTventure of all NXTinspect assets as follows:

5% -> JLH (I hope nobody sees any conflict with this!)
5% -> SuperNET dividend
5% -> NXTventure dividend
10% -> AE sales at 2.5 NXT

As soon as the AE assets are sold, I will start the dividend process. If you do the math you will see that this will all be NXT neutral and after this I will have no NXTinspect, nor will I have made any gains from this, other than the indirect gain of JLH NAV which I have some indirect beneficial ownership of and whatever goodwill SuperNET and NXTventure assets get from this surprise dividend

James
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I bought the NXTinspect totally on my own without any notice to or from the NXTinspect team
I knew they were coming out with something and when they did, I pounced at the good deal. I invest in good people, and they are all good people. When I see good trades, I just automatically click, click, done. So I didnt even think about the potential for looking like conflict of interest.

However, it seems there could be an appearance of conflict since I am involved in dozens of different projects. So I will divest NXTventure of all NXTinspect assets as follows:

5% -> JLH (I hope nobody sees any conflict with this!)
5% -> SuperNET dividend
5% -> NXTventure dividend
10% -> AE sales at 2.5 NXT

As soon as the AE assets are sold, I will start the dividend process. If you do the math you will see that this will all be NXT neutral and after this I will have no NXTinspect, nor will I have made any gains from this, other than the indirect gain of JLH NAV which I have some indirect beneficial ownership of and whatever goodwill SuperNET and NXTventure assets get from this surprise dividend

James

I know I said I would not post again in this thread, but I just want to say I DO NOT think jl777 needs to do this!! Whale has made it clear that NXTinspect will not be rating any NXTventure assets, so I do not think there is a potential for a conflict of interest now.

When the original NXTinspect announcement was made I assumed NXTventure assets would be rated, but that assumption was false.

I'm sorry if I caused a fuss.
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I bought the NXTinspect totally on my own without any notice to or from the NXTinspect team
I knew they were coming out with something and when they did, I pounced at the good deal. I invest in good people, and they are all good people. When I see good trades, I just automatically click, click, done. So I didnt even think about the potential for looking like conflict of interest.

However, it seems there could be an appearance of conflict since I am involved in dozens of different projects. So I will divest NXTventure of all NXTinspect assets as follows:

5% -> JLH (I hope nobody sees any conflict with this!)
5% -> SuperNET dividend
5% -> NXTventure dividend
10% -> AE sales at 2.5 NXT

As soon as the AE assets are sold, I will start the dividend process. If you do the math you will see that this will all be NXT neutral and after this I will have no NXTinspect, nor will I have made any gains from this, other than the indirect gain of JLH NAV which I have some indirect beneficial ownership of and whatever goodwill SuperNET and NXTventure assets get from this surprise dividend

James

I know I said I would not post again in this thread, but I just want to say I DO NOT think jl777 needs to do this!! Whale has made it clear that NXTinspect will not be rating any NXTventure assets, so I do not think there is a potential for a conflict of interest now.

When the original NXTinspect announcement was made I assumed NXTventure assets would be rated, but that assumption was false.

I'm sorry if I caused a fuss.
Dont worry, it was my fault.

I want to use NXTinspect services and clearly it wont have much value if there is this appearance that I am having some sort of undue influence over them. I can tell you these guys dont really listen to me if they dont agree, in fact chanc3r's main contributions to the tech is telling me all the ways I messed up during his source code reviews :)

The amount of money we are talking about here is less that 0.1% of the value of my assets and the last thing I want is to hamper NXTinspect with any sort of appearance of conflict of interest.

I dont want or need "yes" men, what good is that? It is getting unbiased clear feedback that leads to the best results in all areas. That is my goal

James
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I bought the NXTinspect totally on my own without any notice to or from the NXTinspect team
I knew they were coming out with something and when they did, I pounced at the good deal. I invest in good people, and they are all good people. When I see good trades, I just automatically click, click, done. So I didnt even think about the potential for looking like conflict of interest.

However, it seems there could be an appearance of conflict since I am involved in dozens of different projects. So I will divest NXTventure of all NXTinspect assets as follows:

5% -> JLH (I hope nobody sees any conflict with this!)
5% -> SuperNET dividend
5% -> NXTventure dividend
10% -> AE sales at 2.5 NXT

As soon as the AE assets are sold, I will start the dividend process. If you do the math you will see that this will all be NXT neutral and after this I will have no NXTinspect, nor will I have made any gains from this, other than the indirect gain of JLH NAV which I have some indirect beneficial ownership of and whatever goodwill SuperNET and NXTventure assets get from this surprise dividend

James

Wait so this only looks like 25% of that assets. Where is the other 75% going?
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I bought the NXTinspect totally on my own without any notice to or from the NXTinspect team
I knew they were coming out with something and when they did, I pounced at the good deal. I invest in good people, and they are all good people. When I see good trades, I just automatically click, click, done. So I didnt even think about the potential for looking like conflict of interest.

However, it seems there could be an appearance of conflict since I am involved in dozens of different projects. So I will divest NXTventure of all NXTinspect assets as follows:

5% -> JLH (I hope nobody sees any conflict with this!)
5% -> SuperNET dividend
5% -> NXTventure dividend
10% -> AE sales at 2.5 NXT

As soon as the AE assets are sold, I will start the dividend process. If you do the math you will see that this will all be NXT neutral and after this I will have no NXTinspect, nor will I have made any gains from this, other than the indirect gain of JLH NAV which I have some indirect beneficial ownership of and whatever goodwill SuperNET and NXTventure assets get from this surprise dividend

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I know I said I would not post again in this thread, but I just want to say I DO NOT think jl777 needs to do this!! Whale has made it clear that NXTinspect will not be rating any NXTventure assets, so I do not think there is a potential for a conflict of interest now.

When the original NXTinspect announcement was made I assumed NXTventure assets would be rated, but that assumption was false.

I'm sorry if I caused a fuss.
Dont worry, it was my fault.

I want to use NXTinspect services and clearly it wont have much value if there is this appearance that I am having some sort of undue influence over them. I can tell you these guys dont really listen to me if they dont agree, in fact chanc3r's main contributions to the tech is telling me all the ways I messed up during his source code reviews :)

The amount of money we are talking about here is less that 0.1% of the value of my assets and the last thing I want is to hamper NXTinspect with any sort of appearance of conflict of interest.

I dont want or need "yes" men, what good is that? It is getting unbiased clear feedback that leads to the best results in all areas. That is my goal

James

It does make more sense that you can use NXTinspect too. A wise decision then!!
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Thanks for the clarifications!

I'm sorry you found my comments ill-informed 'conspiracy theories'. This is crypto, and I've been around a while. I did not mean to offend you, but insider trading is rife in all financial markets, and I can't remember you mentioning excluding jl777 assets in your previous posts, and he is a large shareholder in NXTinspect. I did assume you were involved with NXTventures as you are with SuperNET, but if that is incorrect then I have been enlightened, so thanks. I really don't think that error counts as a conspiracy theory, especially as you and jl777 are obviously working on many interrelated projects simultaneously, and you previously worked together on fuzon. You are connected, and their is *potential* for a conflict of interest. If you answer genuine queries as ill-informed conspiracy theories then you look far more paranoid than the questioner IMO.

I did not assume the early bird was compulsory, that's why I asked about it. If it's not then my own feeling is most asset issuers would probably avoid this option, as it offers them no advantages, but it could cause them problems with later buyers of their assets getting pissed at missing the better price. When and how assets are listed is obviously a touchy subject. The jinn dutch auction is probably the fairest version so far, plenty of advanced warning and very transparent.

I wish your venture all the best in the future.

edit: Oh, you deleted my original post and your reply.

edit2: Well here is my original "ill informed conspiracy post" which was still in my browser. Your deleted reply is gone though. Not good to delete honest posts made in good faith IMO, but it is your thread I guess.

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I thought  NXTinspect was going to be more like a third party rating agency trying to prevent scam assets. It sounds more like a subsidiary of NXTventures/SuperNET now. That might not be a bad thing, but same personnel heavily involved here, so I can't imagine Whale will ever write a bad review of an asset that Whale himself is pushing through NXTventures/SuperNET.

Is this really a NXTventure/SuperNET/NXTinspect commission. What if I create an asset and pay NXTinspect to vet my activities, but I don't want to give your subscribers the early bird access? Would that be possible, or is the early bird access for your customers compulsory? Is NXTinspect really interested in rating NXTventure assets only? This would be perfectly acceptable, but if that was true then I hope another group might consider setting up a more community based alternative. NXTinspect seems unambiguously 'for profit', which is fine, but a not-for-profit alternative (that still paid wages) would obviously be 100% impartial to ALL asset listings.

I look forward to following and watching what happens with this.

John if you insist on trolling our thread, you will find all of your posts deleted. If you simply took the time to read my post above yours, it states why the thread was deleted.

I stated your post was a conspiracy theory because it was not supported with any substance behind your claims other than I am a friend of James. Everything you 'questioned' has not been mentioned anywhere, therefore why would you bring this up? At no point have we said that we are owned by anyone. Here's more enlightenment for you (as you put it). I'm only working on SuperNET with James so I don't understand what this means "especially as you and jl777 are obviously working on many interrelated projects simultaneously".

I agree. I haven't been following the Jinn sale too much but I like the idea. It lets the market decide what it is worth. It could definitely be an option for our second offering.

Thank you for your support. If you need further clarification or have any other questions, please don't hesitate to message me.

I'm so sorry you think I was trolling your thread. My intention was to get more information on your plans for NXTinspect as my first impression from your original announcement was the goal was to create more of a community focused rating agency, but your subsequent post regarding the subscription and early bird access for your subscribers had a very different tone. I did not mean to imply I thought any of the people involved were dishonest, far from it I think the members of your team have very good reputations that have been well earned. jl777 has always acted honestly, and he's set a new standard in the crypto industry for transparency and honest dealings. I have no doubt you will act honestly, but I do think you have overreacted to my post, but I can understand why.

This is a small community, and people will perform many functions at the same time, that is understandable, but when there is a 'potential' conflict of interest the best approach IMO is communication. I'll leave it for others to judge, but you edited your original subscription post to remove the early bird references, and you later clarified that jl777 assets will not be reviewed by NXTinspect. I think if those two changes were in the original announcement I would not have been so strong in my original post, and the 'potential' for even a perceived conflict of interest would have been greatly reduced.

Perceived conflicts of interest, whether real or not can cause perception problems. Hank Paulson may well be a very honest person, but most reasonable people would argue that there clearly existed a perception of a potential conflict of interest when he left as chairman of Goldman Sachs to become Secretary of the Treasury, and then later crafted the bank bailouts of 2009. To raise that possibility when seeking clarification might be trolling, but maybe it's genuine concern to see what's really going on. Paulson probably thought those who enquired of his potential conflict were just ill-informed conspiracy theorists, but I think most reasonable people would acknowledge that it wasn't 'a good look'. That doesn't mean they are accusing him of anything, just pointing out a possibility.

Anyway, I will not post again in any of your threads, and I do sincerely wish you well as NXT needs to limit future scam assets. Just to be very clear about things, I think NXTinspect is being run by honest people. Good luck!

It was only a misunderstanding. This is a community driven project and I want you to be involved (just like everyone else). Like I said, if you have any personal issues, just send me a message and I will do my best to sort it out.

It seems that James has taken the steps to ensure this kind of confusion is not repeated (thank you James).

No hard feelings :)

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5% -> JLH (I hope nobody sees any conflict with this!)
5% -> SuperNET dividend
5% -> NXTventure dividend
10% -> AE sales at 2.5 NXT

James

And,  the game begins. James, with all due respect you should have ignored all them talk, you know better then all of us how it works... Do we have P-phase? Probably. What will D-phase do?

I will HODL till the last share is sold by the issuer, no matter what.
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Wait so this only looks like 25% of that assets. Where is the other 75% going?

NXTinspect's IPO offer was for 300,000 asset tokens, which is 30% of all the tokens. James bought 250,000 of them, which is 25% of total. (RAlex bought the other 5%) I think that's what James meant by 25%.


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but when there is a 'potential' conflict of interest the best approach IMO is communication.

+1. And the communication here has been exemplary.


Seems like new asset issuers could use help and advice with how to go about their share offerings, e.g. pricing, preannouncement, buyback, dividend structure, there could be demand for such a service. And I'd like to see approaches other than 'fixed price IPO' being tried, because that pits the few asset issuers against the entire Nxt marketplace when valuating the shares, the asset issuers are likely to sell out too low and fast, or too high and not sell.

Unfortunately the Nxters most experienced in all this (in the context of this thread I'm thinking of James and jef, I don't know much about everyone else yet) will also want to be grabbing those offered shares. Is there some way to provide such a service without even perceived conflict of interest?

For a start, maybe a stickied thread with suggestions and 'best practices' contributions from everyone? Personally I think preannouncing IPOs is always a good idea.
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I am very disappointed that the Asset Issuer raise prices from 1nxt to 2.5nxt and then to 5nxt, and he still holds 30%.
It's unfair to investors >:(
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I am very disappointed that the Asset Issuer raise prices from 1nxt to 2.5nxt and then to 5nxt, and he still holds 30%.
It's unfair to investors >:(

+1

edit: But some would simply say my choice of timezones to live in is terrible to buy NXTinspect!

I wake up yesterday and all shares for 1 NXT have been gone for 5 hours. This morning, all shares at 2.5 NXT sold!

Oh, how the asset issuers have behaved raising 5X in 48 hours simply due to the hype. I would have purchased at 2.5 but I'll not support this asset at 5x IPO BY THE ISSUER. I can understand if it's second market but whale et al!

Come on! Yes, you are offering a needed service and your reputations proceed you but the way you have issued your assets speaks loudly as to who you really are. Very disappointed.

Any numbers to support the need to do this to the community members who live in the wrong timezone and other than oh, well you were just late to the party!?



Edit2: decided to stay out of this.
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The asset issuer hasn't raised the price. They cannot raise the price of what they're not selling at the moment.

EDIT: This is wrong! I realized this after I posted.

jl777 bought up most of the initial offer. To dispel suspicions of 'conspiracy', 'conflict of interest', etc, jl777 divested the shares from NXTventures (which aims to invest in startups which NXTinspect will likely also be auditing, hence the potential for conflict of interest). Some of that went back to the market, @ 2.5 nxt per share. (I don't expect jl to sell at cost, he has a responsibility to his NXTventure asset holders to make $ for them as well). Then some people bought those up and resold at higher prices (I'm late to the party again! I picked a little up @ 4.5, I feel it's slightly overvalued right now, since there are no actual reviews out yet.)

tank, if you're an investor, you should have done your homework, checked the blockchain, read the threads, and you should know all this. (This also applies to anyone else looking to invest.)

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To me, nothing was "unfair" about the intial offer. They didn't have to make it a public offer in the first place, they could have raised funds privately outside of the AE instead. It's their business, their tokens, their right to do what they want with it. They don't owe it to anyone to sell their assets cheaply. But if their goal was also to try to distribute the shares and have more folks with a stake in their service, then there were better ways to do it, preannouncement would be one. (Nxt seems to keep having problems with initial distribution :D)

EDIT: You guys are right, the sale @ 5 is by the asset issuer! txid 9180901517660582655  I bought someone else's resell, and I started my reply to tank before Breasal posted.
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I am very disappointed that the Asset Issuer raise prices from 1nxt to 2.5nxt and then to 5nxt, and he still holds 30%.
It's unfair to investors >:(

+1

But some would simply say my choice of timezones to live in is terrible to buy NXTinspect!

I wake up yesterday and all shares for 1 NXT have been gone for 5 hours. This morning, all shares at 2.5 NXT sold!

Oh, how the asset issuers have behaved raising 5X in 48 hours simply due to the hype. I would have purchased at 2.5 but I'll not support this asset at 5x IPO BY THE ISSUER. I can understand if it's second market but whale et al!

Come on! Yes, you are offering a needed service and your reputations proceed you but the way you have issued your assets speaks loudly as to who you really are. Very disappointed.

Any numbers to support the need to do this to the community members who live in the wrong timezone and other than oh, well you were just late to the party!?

Oh come on! Stop these complaints already. I didn't notice to buy the shares on time either, that's fine there'll be other opportunities. Wasn't it you who asked the coinevolve guy to issue evolve2, then grabbed a large share of that asset and dumped on others at a higher price? How is that different from what NXTInspect just did? It's all about economic benefit, not some sort of charity activity, so stop complaining like a baby.
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5% -> JLH (I hope nobody sees any conflict with this!)
5% -> SuperNET dividend
5% -> NXTventure dividend
10% -> AE sales at 2.5 NXT

James

And,  the game begins. James, with all due respect you should have ignored all them talk, you know better then all of us how it works... Do we have P-phase? Probably. What will D-phase do?

I will HODL till the last share is sold by the issuer, no matter what.

What are you talking about!?

James is very generous with every asset in all cases that I've observed, even when he is not in the wrong. In other words, he makes money while making others money...

So I was not able to buy in at a lower price. I'm a modest investor and disappointed in how this has played out. No big deal. I know you hold 50,000 NXT invest and is exactly why I will not keep pumping this price so you can then sell at 5-10X for what you bought. Good luck though I'm sure someone else will make you rich.


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I am very disappointed that the Asset Issuer raise prices from 1nxt to 2.5nxt and then to 5nxt, and he still holds 30%.
It's unfair to investors >:(

+1

But some would simply say my choice of timezones to live in is terrible to buy NXTinspect!

I wake up yesterday and all shares for 1 NXT have been gone for 5 hours. This morning, all shares at 2.5 NXT sold!

Oh, how the asset issuers have behaved raising 5X in 48 hours simply due to the hype. I would have purchased at 2.5 but I'll not support this asset at 5x IPO BY THE ISSUER. I can understand if it's second market but whale et al!

Come on! Yes, you are offering a needed service and your reputations proceed you but the way you have issued your assets speaks loudly as to who you really are. Very disappointed.

Any numbers to support the need to do this to the community members who live in the wrong timezone and other than oh, well you were just late to the party!?

Oh come on! Stop these complaints already. I didn't notice to buy the shares on time either, that's fine there'll be other opportunities. Wasn't it you who asked the coinevolve guy to issue evolve2, then grabbed a large share of that asset and dumped on others at a higher price? How is that different from what NXTInspect just did? It's all about economic benefit, not some sort of charity activity, so stop complaining like a baby.

Fair enough. It's not the end of the world. I am disappointed I did not buy in earlier that's all. And for what it's worth, I put offers up for sale (1.5 or 2x), I dumped nothing.
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I am very disappointed that the Asset Issuer raise prices from 1nxt to 2.5nxt and then to 5nxt, and he still holds 30%.
It's unfair to investors >:(

+1

But some would simply say my choice of timezones to live in is terrible to buy NXTinspect!

I wake up yesterday and all shares for 1 NXT have been gone for 5 hours. This morning, all shares at 2.5 NXT sold!

Oh, how the asset issuers have behaved raising 5X in 48 hours simply due to the hype. I would have purchased at 2.5 but I'll not support this asset at 5x IPO BY THE ISSUER. I can understand if it's second market but whale et al!

Come on! Yes, you are offering a needed service and your reputations proceed you but the way you have issued your assets speaks loudly as to who you really are. Very disappointed.

Any numbers to support the need to do this to the community members who live in the wrong timezone and other than oh, well you were just late to the party!?

Oh come on! Stop these complaints already. I didn't notice to buy the shares on time either, that's fine there'll be other opportunities. Wasn't it you who asked the coinevolve guy to issue evolve2, then grabbed a large share of that asset and dumped on others at a higher price? How is that different from what NXTInspect just did? It's all about economic benefit, not some sort of charity activity, so stop complaining like a baby.
It was only a misunderstanding,I was connected by James link and not to do my homework.This is a community driven project,it's great, At least we don't worry about scam like evolve, in the future there will be more of the same assets like james issued that trustworthy,NXTinspect will be more valuable :D
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I am very disappointed that the Asset Issuer raise prices from 1nxt to 2.5nxt and then to 5nxt, and he still holds 30%.
It's unfair to investors >:(

+1

But some would simply say my choice of timezones to live in is terrible to buy NXTinspect!

I wake up yesterday and all shares for 1 NXT have been gone for 5 hours. This morning, all shares at 2.5 NXT sold!

Oh, how the asset issuers have behaved raising 5X in 48 hours simply due to the hype. I would have purchased at 2.5 but I'll not support this asset at 5x IPO BY THE ISSUER. I can understand if it's second market but whale et al!

Come on! Yes, you are offering a needed service and your reputations proceed you but the way you have issued your assets speaks loudly as to who you really are. Very disappointed.

Any numbers to support the need to do this to the community members who live in the wrong timezone and other than oh, well you were just late to the party!?

Oh come on! Stop these complaints already. I didn't notice to buy the shares on time either, that's fine there'll be other opportunities. Wasn't it you who asked the coinevolve guy to issue evolve2, then grabbed a large share of that asset and dumped on others at a higher price? How is that different from what NXTInspect just did? It's all about economic benefit, not some sort of charity activity, so stop complaining like a baby.
It was only a misunderstanding,I was connected by James link and not to do my homework.This is a community driven project,it's great, At least we don't worry about scam like evolve, in the future there will be more of the same assets like james issued that trustworthy,NXTinspect will be more valuable :D
I am disappointed that I didn't buy it in earlier
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If you haven't read James' intentions, please see his post at the top. We have only put a sell wall up at 5 Nxt to stop people from causing a bubble in our asset price. We do not want to hurt investors and right now there is a lot of speculative hype surrounding NXTinspect.

We had nothing to do with the 2.5 Nxt sale, it was entirely James' decision.

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If you haven't read James' intentions, please see his post at the top. We have only put a sell wall up at 5 Nxt to stop people from causing a bubble in our asset price. We do not want to hurt investors and right now there is a lot of speculative hype surrounding NXTinspect.

We had nothing to do with the 2.5 Nxt sale, it was entirely James' decision.

Thanks for the clarification whale. I missed that very important point earlier today!  :-[

I think many others did as well as there are less than 8,000 stakes remaining in the wall...lol   :o
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Whale has made it clear that NXTinspect will not be rating any NXTventure assets, so I do not think there is a potential for a conflict of interest now.

This comment disturbed me so greatly that I went and read whale's last 50-60 posts, and I couldn't see anywhere he has said that.

Whale, can you confirm whether or not you will be giving guidance on nxtventure and 'hodl' supported securities? Thanks.

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EDIT: You guys are right, the sale @ 5 is by the asset issuer! txid 9180901517660582655  I bought someone else's resell, and I started my reply to tank before Breasal posted.

See my posts in the asset's thread -
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=5655.msg111432#msg111432

I put up the 50k sell wall @ 5 thinking to stop a bubble in the price.

We are damned whichever way we go it seems - so I give up, I am getting out of this debate and getting on with some work.

There is little liquidity and people seem to want a stake which is flattering and I didn't expect the 50k wall to be taken down.

If I placed another 50k at 1 NXT some one would have bought it up in one go and then resold it at 3/4/5 or more

It now seems there have been lots of individual buys given the 5NXT price.

Also James is now dispersing the shares through NXT venture so that will create more shareholders so I will not be placing any more for sale unless the share price continues to spiral - which is just plain stupid!
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Whale has made it clear that NXTinspect will not be rating any NXTventure assets, so I do not think there is a potential for a conflict of interest now.

This comment disturbed me so greatly that I went and read whale's last 50-60 posts, and I couldn't see anywhere he has said that.

Whale, can you confirm whether or not you will be giving guidance on nxtventure and 'hodl' supported securities? Thanks.

Whale has personally excluded from reviewing James' assets, as he is "employed" by james in negotiating deals for SuperNet acquisitions.
I personally hold a large amount of James' assets, but as I am invested, I am also interested in their worth.
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Hey people, the most important aspect of a rating agency is the trust in them that they are impartial. NxtInspect will do everything they can to be impartial and gain the trust of the people. This trust is much more important than some short-time gains because of some gamed reports. They would be very stupid if they would risk this trust, because they can become very big. I'm 99.999% sure (100% never exists in the real world) that NxtInspect will be as impartial and trustworthy as possible!! I don't care about who of them owns how much of which asset...
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I confirm that I won't be doing any of James' assets.
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ANNOUNCEMENT: We're now on poloniex!

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