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« on: December 06, 2015, 06:28:21 pm »

The campaign is over, and it was overall a success!

We started it in December 6 2015  and ended in July 18 2016

The price in was 1659 satoshi, and now it is 3675 satoshi.

We achieved a 221% growth of price, not all directly caused by us, but we did influence it heavily as our campaign reached tens of thousands of people. We advertised NXT.org to literally tens of thousands of people.



If anyone wants to continue this campaign, I can assist him with advertising tips
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Re: NXT Revitalization Plan
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2015, 06:48:50 pm »

We need banners at coinmarketcap.com, like Neucoin and Shapeshift did. CMC is the place where the price addicted speculators go. Let's tell them that NXT is a good speculation.
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2015, 07:59:53 pm »

Good initiative, RealBitcoin. +1

Tennessee/Nxt Foundation is already planning to go for some advertising, just not quite yet. Nxt has aready run a couple of ad campaigns, with close to sod-all success, so we learned to be very careful about how we run and target campaigns.

Nxt.org, for example, is about to be completely renewed, and we are also looking at setting up lite wallets, and an easy-as-fuck tutorial for getting into NXT.
Once all of this is in place, an ad campaign to pull people in will have a much better chance of actually getting solid conversions, rather than just a couple of clicks. I think a good moment to run an ad campaign will be after the hardfork in January: we'll then have a shed-load of working features (including Shuffling/Account Control) together with both Windows and Mac signed installers, as well as the new Nxt.org.

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2015, 08:51:45 pm »

Great, RealBitcoin!

Good initiative, RealBitcoin. +1

Tennessee/Nxt Foundation is already planning to go for some advertising, just not quite yet. Nxt has aready run a couple of ad campaigns, with close to sod-all success, so we learned to be very careful about how we run and target campaigns.

Nxt.org, for example, is about to be completely renewed, and we are also looking at setting up lite wallets, and an easy-as-fuck tutorial for getting into NXT.
Once all of this is in place, an ad campaign to pull people in will have a much better chance of actually getting solid conversions, rather than just a couple of clicks. I think a good moment to run an ad campaign will be after the hardfork in January: we'll then have a shed-load of working features (including Shuffling/Account Control) together with both Windows and Mac signed installers, as well as the new Nxt.org.

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In the meantime we *could* discuss whether Nxt wants to attract speculators or programmers/businesses.
Do we want to sell coins or useful 2.0 tech?

Or both.   :)

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2015, 09:07:41 pm »

Good initiative, RealBitcoin. +1

Tennessee/Nxt Foundation is already planning to go for some advertising, just not quite yet. Nxt has aready run a couple of ad campaigns, with close to sod-all success, so we learned to be very careful about how we run and target campaigns.

Nxt.org, for example, is about to be completely renewed, and we are also looking at setting up lite wallets, and an easy-as-fuck tutorial for getting into NXT.
Once all of this is in place, an ad campaign to pull people in will have a much better chance of actually getting solid conversions, rather than just a couple of clicks. I think a good moment to run an ad campaign will be after the hardfork in January: we'll then have a shed-load of working features (including Shuffling/Account Control) together with both Windows and Mac signed installers, as well as the new Nxt.org.

Indeed that is one way of doing it. However I know very cheap CPC sources that are very effective and could get quick joiners.

We could also do it before X-mas, i dont think we should waste the holiday seasons because people could buy/spend more in these times.

I also think the NXT into video should be re-done since it's not that easily worded and doesnt emphasize enough on NXT specific features, rather just as on a cryptocurrency in general.

We shall see, I will measure it and see how it goes, it will be a great test sample and we can compare it with the Tenessee ad projects before and see how it's easier to advertise.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2015, 09:22:08 pm »

Yeah, we also need some better videos...... ;D

If you've got some good sources for cheap advertising....do it.
Maybe a little "Give the gift of NXT this Christmas..." would work well.
Let's co-ordinate on this, make sure that everything works smoothly together.

 
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2015, 10:06:30 pm »

Great idea.

You asked too little though. Send you 1 btc.  8)

Looking forward to your report.

Good luck.

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2015, 10:24:34 pm »

Great idea.

You asked too little though. Send you 1 btc.  8)

Looking forward to your report.

Good luck.
Thanks Marc For Support!!  ;)
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2015, 10:29:01 pm »

Great idea.

You asked too little though. Send you 1 btc.  8)

Looking forward to your report.

Good luck.

Great, but 0.1 would have been enough, since we will do a test phase first. Do you want me to send the 0.9 back ?

Now first we need to decide which link is more attractive to our potential new NXT users:

1) nxt.org/

or

2) nxt.org/about/

I was thinking about these 2 links.

Now we know for sure that a video is more appealing than a plain website. Thats why you see all those marketing sites trying to sell you something having a video on it. Although I personally think the  video itself doesn't emphasize on NXT's features enough.

Yet the first page nxt.org, has no video, but it's more visually appealing, and if people scroll down, then they can see NXT's features right on the spot explained with nice details.


I think option 1) is better, but I want to hear your opinions too.
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2015, 11:21:03 pm »

Please keep it as an advance for the NXT round 8)

Thanks for all your great posts on btt as well! :)

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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2015, 11:38:01 pm »

Please keep it as an advance for the NXT round 8)

Thanks for all your great posts on btt as well! :)

Alright cool, now let me gather the forum statistics so that we have a controlled variable. We will do an IFRAME based advertising, since it's the most efficient and cost effective in my opinion. Banner is ok, but CPM is fully of spam or clickbots, and CPC is pretty expensive with not that good results as I tried them for many bitcoin related things in the past.

The best bet I think is an Iframe AD campaign, and I just checked the websites they are all good, none of them break the frame so we can do it. The website I`m using is pretty safe and has captcha after timer runs out, so clickbots are filtered out and people can visually see what the site is about.

Now we only need to decide which link we will advertise the /about or the home page.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2015, 11:46:50 pm »

The homepage, imo.

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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2015, 12:33:30 am »

Yes that is going to be the first test round. Here is how the forum membership (which measures NXT users) has been doing in the past several months



Not very bright, it was stagnant pretty much all the way, with a slight growth measured by this exponential trendline.

Yet the past month we have been averaging around 10 new users /day. We need to double this atleast. So let's see.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2015, 12:52:15 am »

Alright first round is on it's way:
http://btcclicks.com/adpurchase?id=04354d95374c07cd47776c75841ce608

Cost: 0.03949 +miner fee

Clicks: 10,000

Duration of the ad: 20 second + site load time + Captcha

With no extra distractions feature. If the viewer clicks away or makes alt+tab then the timer freezes, so the viewer is forced to watch the site until the timer is off.

I suppose 10 second is enough to catch the viewer, but i wanted to make sure, since if they are forced to view it for 20 seconds, they will scroll down, and see the features of NXT on the bottom of the page (which should be on the top, but yes a new website design is probably needed as pointed out by EvilDave)

However I really like these icons , they are very pretty,so I think they should be kept in the future design:

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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2015, 01:08:50 am »

Farl4Bit is working on the site redesign for Nxt.org, so you'll have to ask him..... ;)

Nice work on getting this together, RBC.
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2015, 01:13:16 am »

Farl4Bit is working on the site redesign for Nxt.org, so you'll have to ask him..... ;)

Nice work on getting this together, RBC.

Well I`m not a design artist, I just see the icons pretty and very catchy from advertising viewpoints.

They are good but they are too down in the site, so the location and the layout of the site might be changed.

I think the NXT website should get inspiration from litecoin.com site's design.

That is the best cryptocurrency site design I have ever seen. Even the bitcoin.org is a crap design in my opinion, the current NXT site is way better than it :)
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2015, 08:38:34 am »

On which websites is the banner displayed?
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2015, 01:47:34 pm »

On which websites is the banner displayed?

What banner?
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2015, 06:59:20 pm »

On which websites is the banner displayed?

What banner?
Maybe I misunderstood. How do you exactly promote the site? Isn't it a banner ad?
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2015, 10:25:43 pm »


Maybe I misunderstood. How do you exactly promote the site? Isn't it a banner ad?

No, this is not a banner campaign, I used a  PTC site to promote NXT in the first round.
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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2015, 10:27:56 pm »

The campaign round 1 will probably be over in a few hours, so far not much results.

Although I will wait 2+ more days after the finish, to see if it needs more time to trickledown (people downloading NXT, and maybe later they join the forum)...

I wish there was a statistics of the number of  downloads of the NXT wallet from the nxt.org site :)
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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2015, 03:17:52 pm »

Actually I mislooked, we still have more than half of the clicks left, I think it will take the entire week to finish with this speed.

http://btcclicks.com/adpurchase?id=04354d95374c07cd47776c75841ce608

Then in the weekend I will analyze how much exposure did NXT get. Looks like we didnt got much forum signups, but maybe there is a way to detect the newcomers with other methods.

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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2015, 12:49:04 am »

We need banners at coinmarketcap.com, like Neucoin and Shapeshift did. CMC is the place where the price addicted speculators go. Let's tell them that NXT is a good speculation.

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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2015, 06:54:07 am »

Would price addicted speculators invest in NXT when they only look at the price/volume graphs? ;)
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2015, 08:25:39 pm »

Would price addicted speculators invest in NXT when they only look at the price/volume graphs? ;)

hard to say, but when i bought NXT, price did not bother me, and i could have dumped everything over a year ago. It seems most people are just dumping alot of coins when they increase, and then move on to another one.

Once all this day trading settles down and people look to the technology rather than the price will things change for the better.

NXT is not probably much interest to traders, as most people are holding for long term.
In saying that, there is a steady volume, so it is slowly being spread around.

I think for anything to take BTC on we need to target people new to crypto as our audience, and there is a fair amount of people that know nothing about BTC let alone NXT.
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« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2015, 09:50:43 pm »

Would price addicted speculators invest in NXT when they only look at the price/volume graphs? ;)

If you believe that NXT price will rise, formulate that belief in a nice headline and make a banner - at CMC. Looking at the price and graphs will the speculators than just tell: "Cheap. Buying opportunity." Make different banners. Use the current buzzwords. Tell them why NXT is awesome, why it is smart or good for their ego, I don't know. But we have some money for marketing. Why not copy what Neucoin did successfully: Banners at CMC.
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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2015, 07:02:24 pm »

Sorry I was not active past days. First round is over, I`ll analyze the progress we made.



Analysis Done, so the campaign is over and everybody had enough time to react to it, weather use NXT or not interested in the first place, so here is my analysis



The blue chart line is the signups before the campaign and the red dotted one is after.

I drawn an exponential trendline to measure the differences, and the difference is small but nontheless we made progress.


The yellow trendline represents the growth we achieved with the campaign, and the green was the growth before that. Yes we had some success.

Yellow: 11.12
Green: 11.39

Therefore, with the campaign: +0.27/day new signups have been achieved to the forum. Now this is not much, and we dont know how much it trickes down from nxt.org pageviews to people who download NXT blockchain, etc etc, but my theory was based that they will need to signup to the forum. Now they might not, and we did achieve more new users, but we can only measure it via the forum signup so, thats that.

Now I`ll do a part 2 soon, of similar size, on another website, which is far more popular, to see which one is more useful.
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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2015, 08:09:11 pm »

Ok ROUND 2
http://bitter.io/campaign/34UZS5ZyGEdqEWTua92gV36jFVdPBa4uRm

This costs a bit more than round 1, however this website has really easy user-friendly base of PTC clickers. It also has a feature where people can favorite the link, and we can actually see feedback from them, so they can visit it later.

The same campaign , 20 second timer, 10,000 views + captcha and they got IP filter, so no double count /day. It's basically the same, however I believe we will achieve bigger success here and we can see the feedback too.

So let's see
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« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2015, 08:29:49 pm »

Also in the meantime guys, if anybody can design good 728x90 , 468x60 , 300x250, 250x250, and 160x600 ads.

I think we will do a banner ad campaign too, to compare the results, so while ROUND 2 is running, if anybody is talented enough to draw those banners, feel free to do so.

Otherwise I`ll have to draw them myself.
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« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2015, 09:52:03 pm »

I can take care of the banners. What slogan should they contain?
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« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2015, 02:29:29 am »

I can take care of the banners. What slogan should they contain?

I`m not sure but for now a static banner is enough, we can try with animated banners another time. (or only little animations like light flashes and other small enhancements, but i would like i without a slideshow type banner, slideshows usually draw away attention)

Use the NXT logo, and a big text saying that NXT is the next evolution of cryptocurrencies or something like that.

And then perhaps insert little icons below that illustrates the decentralization, asset exchange, alias system and other features as shown on NXT.org.

Perhaps if you can use the colors and the style and the theme of this picture found on nxt.org :



That picture has a very appealing contrast and coloring, perhaps you can use those colors as an inspiration for the logos :)
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« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2015, 08:54:09 am »

Started with 250x250. Two styles. Vote for one and I'll continue with that.

A. Mono Blue


B. Multi color
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« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2015, 09:00:59 am »

I prefer multicolor.
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« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2015, 09:09:55 am »

Multicolor.
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« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2015, 09:15:54 am »

Same Multicolor  :)

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« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2015, 09:38:26 am »

+1 multicolour :)

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« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2015, 11:21:06 am »

Yep B) looks very elegant and more visually spicy.
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« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2015, 11:54:46 am »

Keep on rolling,  RealBTC, +1

For the ad (my 2 cents): use a very simple and very obvious slogan.
"Decentralised Financial Platform" might be true for Nxt, but it's vague and not very exciting......you need clickbait, or people won't click.

We had a competition for slogans a while back, so grab one of those and use it, or try something that directly appeals to people:
"NXT: the best f**king crypto-currency evah!" works for me..... ;)

Or look through this lot:
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/nxt-slogans-poll-%287th-round%29/

(and, yeah, multicolor B looks sweet.)
   
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« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2015, 01:10:31 pm »

Here we go. A set of banners for NXT. I hope you'll like it.
http://imgur.com/a/Z2i0L
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« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2015, 02:41:45 pm »

I think NXT marketing should be focused on the asset exchange. It's the feature that succeeded in having adoption and where Nxt still is leader.

A banner/ad attracting investors to the assets, and/or attracting asset issuers, is what I would love to see.

Where to put them is another question.


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« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2015, 02:53:05 pm »

A good slogan for NXT could be this:

...for assets
...for crowdfunding
...for people
- NXT


This slogan focuses on the strenghts of NXT (assets and crowdfunding) and at the same time says that NXT is for everyone.

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« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2015, 10:51:33 pm »

Keep on rolling,  RealBTC, +1

For the ad (my 2 cents): use a very simple and very obvious slogan.
"Decentralised Financial Platform" might be true for Nxt, but it's vague and not very exciting......you need clickbait, or people won't click.

We had a competition for slogans a while back, so grab one of those and use it, or try something that directly appeals to people:
"NXT: the best f**king crypto-currency evah!" works for me..... ;)

Or look through this lot:
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/nxt-slogans-poll-%287th-round%29/

(and, yeah, multicolor B looks sweet.)
 

Yes, the future of money is really good. In my opinion NXT should already be NR 3 after litecoin. It is soo feature rich.

Here we go. A set of banners for NXT. I hope you'll like it.
http://imgur.com/a/Z2i0L

Pretty good, it's simple, elegant, and has nice colors.

I think we will have good success with  it.
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« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2015, 12:31:05 am »

Yeah, I like NXT: the future of money a lot.........and I love the banners phideas has created. They are really, really good.











Damn, they are good. Another +1  :D going out....

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« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2015, 08:33:36 am »

The Future of Finance?
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« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2015, 06:43:38 pm »

I also think that the future of money is a good slogan.
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« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2015, 08:23:08 am »

Ok the campaign is 27% completed, and so car the conversion ratio seems like:  136.45  :  1  , so every 136th visitor likes NXT ,which is pretty good.

Thats in % a  0.732% conversion rate. Whic is the average, as campaigns tend to have a 0.5-2% conversion rate.

Let's see if it gets better.

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« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2015, 08:40:21 am »

The Future of Finance?
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That may be more accurate, but it's not as catchy as future of money, so I think future of money is better.

Here is a chart of the results so far, it seems like ROUND 2 will be more effective than ROUND 1, its is already more effective and we are only at 27% now

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« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2015, 09:45:53 am »

The banners look great but it's the wrong direction in my opinion.

Instead of shooting wide 'future of money, lots of features', we should focus on 'the best asset exchange'.

Made new video to explain better:
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« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2015, 10:31:36 am »

we should focus on 'the best asset exchange'.
+1440
Totaly agree, good promotion for asset exchange and crowdfunding  :)
several project are in the process of being created which creating promotion for nxt  ;D
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« Reply #51 on: December 14, 2015, 10:44:36 am »

The problem is that the asset exchange cannot work as a crowdfunding platform when you have no liquidity. See Jinn. I think we should focus on NXT delivering better all that what the average crypto guy is looking for: no inflation (we have inflation in BTC), no centralization (no mining, "nothing at stake" is wrong), maybe also mention that we are green (but no need to piss off those who don't believe in man-made climate change). And on top of that we are 2.0, have features and will have more. But first we have to show that we are the better money in everything except liquidity and price ;)

I mean the way CfB promoted NXT. Because that is the reason why we are here after all, right? So CfB has been the best NXT marketing guy so for. LOL, but it's true. So do it like CfB, just use better understandable language.

Marc, would you yourself buy NXT (if you heard about it today for the first time) becaue of the AE? Or would you buy it because of the POS, no inflation and 2.0 on top?

P.S.: Focussing on AE instead of the basic features CfB promoted would imply that we believe new users will not be as smart as old ones (not have the same fundamental reasons for crypto). But IMO new users (in the next bubble) will be smarter: Why? Because they have more and better information after 6 years of cryptocurrency.

P.P.S.: But I could be wrong. Maybe crypto marketcap will not grow due to more people with the same ideology. Because most of the people with the ideology of the old crypto people are already in. What do you think?
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« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2015, 11:04:50 am »

In short terms: More crypto guys need to realize what CfB realized in 2013: NXT is the answer to the downsides of BTC. This has to be the centre of NXT marketing. Maybe the old crypto people will never realize that. Therefore we need to focus on the newbies during the next crypto bubble. With the old arguments of CfB.
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« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2015, 12:09:51 pm »

durerus, I totally bought into your approach but we did this for 2 years now and where are we?

Imagine 2 years ago end 2013 I would have said to you, nxt will be valued $5 million end 2015, will be the 10th position in market cap, will have around 2000 transactions per day, and a community of about 100 active people.  Would you have considered that a success or a failure?

I think it is time to admit that we have largely failed. Most importantly to put Nxt as the alternative to Bitcoin in people's mind. We invested in it for that at the time but the message only reached us, not the masses, not even the crypto community. We have met too much resistance and were too late to the scene. Litecoin already took that position as 'the alternative to bitcoin' and we never succeeded in kicking Litecoin off that throne.   


I think our long term goal should remain the same, to be 'the future of money/finance', but in order to get there and one day be seen as 'the alternative to bitcoin' we will have to approach it via focus on a niche that we dominate without question. And from there build it out.

Amazon started with - only - books. Google with only search. Ebay with only auctioning collectibles. Facebook, only harvard social network. It's by only doing that small niche, and nothing else, that they succeeded in dominating a niche and be the best without question, and only then expanding slowly into other niches, with again the same approach, first be the unquestionable leader in the new niche before expanding into other niches.

Some great links in support of focusing on a niche:
Peter Thiel - Competition is for Losers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLWyP83iU5M
Clayton Christensen - Disruptive Innovation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5FxFfymI4g
22 Immutable Laws of Marketing: http://www.amazon.com/22-Immutable-Laws-Marketing-Violate/dp/0887306667/


 
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« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2015, 01:36:18 pm »

So do you want to open the AE to BTC-assets like SUPER-BTC to solve the liquidity issue with the NXT token? I am speaking of implementing the possibility to buy an asset via BTC. But then again: Why should I as an investor buy NXT the token if on the AE it is needed only for transaction fee? And, if I wanted BTC I would rather use counterparty: no need to rely on MGW, no need to use another blockchain.

Liquidity (the ability to convert the NXT you got from crowdfunding your business into fiat to make necessary investments) is THE issue of the AE! But you also don't want price fluctuations. So: Since BTC is less volatile than NXT BTC will always be the better choice for business founders looking for crypto crowdfunding.

Many NXT whales saw buying assets as a way to donate to the community (and even have the chance to make some money on top of that). Then came those who bought into assets to make more NXT via ever rising prices of assets. The asset bubble grew bigger. The asset sellers and receivers of NXT sold their NXT, of course. That added a new sell pressure on the NXT token additional to the crazy selling of whales here and there. Most businesses on AE never made money from outside the system. So there was no buying of NXT with fresh fiat to pay dividends to assetholders.

So why should I speculate that the price of NXT token will rise due to AE? And why should a wider use of AE lead to a higher NXT price?
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« Reply #55 on: December 14, 2015, 02:19:04 pm »

Whether asset to asset trading is a good idea, I'm not sure anymore. I thought at first not, but maybe it is.


My point is that these are the questions we should indeed focus on, as they are crucial to remain/become leader in the 'decentralised asset exchange' niche.

At the same time we should get rid of, or certainly stop investing more development and marketing, in all our other features that failed to find adoption (marketplace, monetary system, messaging, aliases, etc) or where we lost leadership already (decentralised app platform, ethereum is leader in mind of people).

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« Reply #56 on: December 14, 2015, 03:03:23 pm »

Whether asset to asset trading is a good idea, I'm not sure anymore. I thought at first not, but maybe it is.


My point is that these are the questions we should indeed focus on, as they are crucial to remain/become leader in the 'decentralised asset exchange' niche.

At the same time we should get rid of, or certainly stop investing more development and marketing, in all our other features that failed to find adoption (marketplace, monetary system, messaging, aliases, etc) or where we lost leadership already (decentralised app platform, ethereum is leader in mind of people).

Asset to asset trading is by definition a virtual form of barter. It could work, but it's not there in the real world in masive scale, because it's hard to do price discovery that way.

From economic standpoint a currency based economy is always superior to a barter economy, because of liquidity and ease of price discovery.

So I personally don't think A/A is efficient, however, it could still be implemented for those that would like to use it. The more features the better.
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« Reply #57 on: December 14, 2015, 03:19:20 pm »

Good point you made about asset to asset trading.

The more features the better.

No, most often, less is more.



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« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2015, 04:03:30 pm »

Nxt future rely on successfull business using it and preferably making money from the outside world. It does not matter people know about it or not, it just matter that it is used to store or transfer value and how much.

Is Ethereum better ? Which one is the best platform to built buisness upon ? May bitcoin be good enough after all ?

We do not know, only statistics on success of business ventures will tell. You can have great features that do not transform into comercial success before decades... only real world of business experimentation can tell.

We are still in the speculative an theoritical age  (wich does not play for us anymore) but no altcoin has true business supporting it yet (gridcoin may be).

To help Nxt, buy asset of companies that you think will succeed to profit from attracting a lot of value from the outside world and crucially needs NXT security for their product/service production.
Prefer those who have already invested / developped to those who are only emerging ideas. 
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« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2015, 05:38:57 pm »

Whether asset to asset trading is a good idea, I'm not sure anymore. I thought at first not, but maybe it is.


My point is that these are the questions we should indeed focus on, as they are crucial to remain/become leader in the 'decentralised asset exchange' niche.

At the same time we should get rid of, or certainly stop investing more development and marketing, in all our other features that failed to find adoption (marketplace, monetary system, messaging, aliases, etc) or where we lost leadership already (decentralised app platform, ethereum is leader in mind of people).

Asset to asset trading is by definition a virtual form of barter. It could work, but it's not there in the real world in masive scale, because it's hard to do price discovery that way.

From economic standpoint a currency based economy is always superior to a barter economy, because of liquidity and ease of price discovery.

So I personally don't think A/A is efficient, however, it could still be implemented for those that would like to use it. The more features the better.

You completely missed the point. Asset/Asset is not a "form of barter, thats inefficent". A/A will allow each asset to be traded against BTC, instead of that unstable underlying NXT currency that keeps many asset issuers away.

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« Reply #60 on: December 14, 2015, 06:03:20 pm »

the Asset/Asset thing seems to be a common misunderstanding, as I posted earlier, and was quickly corrected by TwinN, same as he wrote above.

sorry guys, I think this is nonsense. Walk through it: Money emerges as a base reference value token naturally (Kauri shells, Gold, BTC) exactly because it is needed as an intermediary abstract valuation step when comparing the value of different things with each other.

Example: You may be able to valuate a deal goat vs sheep- as in 3 goats vs 2 sheeps as perceived fair value both partied agree upon.
You may also go for chicken vs geese, and for Heineken vs Vodka, but these already prove difficult.

Now we get messy: How many bicycles vs a car? or how many bicycles vs an Airbus 380? How many hair dryers vs a flat screen TV?
How many flasks of perfume vs a Lambo?

This is total nonsense, the only way to compare value of flasks of perfume vs Lambo is via that intermediate step called 'money': 1 flask of SmellyOtter No5 = 19.95Euro,
1 Lambo = 250,000Euro , hence 1 Lambo = 12531.328320802006 flasks of SmellyOtter No5

Now, class: Who would have known that without using the intermediary Euro prices?  ::)

No objective valuation <-> it won't happen.

Don't fool yourselves: If you evaluate 1GOOG=10MSFT then only because you implicitly do that step 1MSFT=$100, 1GOOG=$1000, hence the ratio 1/10

Could be good to think about some less ambiguous terminology  ...
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« Reply #61 on: December 15, 2015, 04:35:16 am »


You completely missed the point. Asset/Asset is not a "form of barter, thats inefficent". A/A will allow each asset to be traded against BTC, instead of that unstable underlying NXT currency that keeps many asset issuers away.

Oh, I see then, well if it can be traded against BTC, directly, not via an internediary asset like mBTC, that would be really great.

It could bring many people in who would like to invest directly with BTC, due to lazyiness or whatever (dont want exposure to NXT).

Good point you made about asset to asset trading.

The more features the better.

No, most often, less is more.


Depends on the quality of the feature. Less junk more good stuff. There is nothing wrong with good features, but if there is an abundance of junk features, that can hurt because it makes the new NXT user disoriented and confused.

NXT doesnt have to be hard to learn, because we know that simple and elegant stuff is the key to success, but a few new hot features never hurt in my opinion.

So more good stuff, less bad stuff :)
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« Reply #62 on: December 15, 2015, 08:09:33 am »

come to think of it- it looks like the gold rush is over, and now it boils down to creating actually something useful.

which is quite difficult, and not many people are up for that.

all the more reason to support and encourage the people that do- and there is quite a bunch of dedicated and competent people around the Nxt ecosystem that do exactly that.

bottom line: no gold rush here, but a lot of time consuming work, that will take time to get to finished products.
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« Reply #63 on: December 15, 2015, 10:12:35 am »

come to think of it- it looks like the gold rush is over, and now it boils down to creating actually something useful.

which is quite difficult, and not many people are up for that.

all the more reason to support and encourage the people that do- and there is quite a bunch of dedicated and competent people around the Nxt ecosystem that do exactly that.

bottom line: no gold rush here, but a lot of time consuming work, that will take time to get to finished products.

Or it just needs proper marketing, I explained it here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=587007.msg13242519#msg13242519

And not just me but everyone should be promoting NXT on social media 24/7. Let people know about NXT and it's features. Social media promotion is FREE!
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« Reply #64 on: December 15, 2015, 11:39:49 am »

One of Bitcoin developers, Cory Fields, points in this video at 1:27:30 that Bitcoin is very poorly suited for hackathons. If NXT is better suited, the marketing team should leverage this advantage as one of the points of the revitalization plan.
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« Reply #65 on: December 15, 2015, 05:10:52 pm »

One of Bitcoin developers, Cory Fields, points in this video at 1:27:30 that Bitcoin is very poorly suited for hackathons. If NXT is better suited, the marketing team should leverage this advantage as one of the points of the revitalization plan.
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« Reply #66 on: December 15, 2015, 06:22:38 pm »

One of Bitcoin developers, Cory Fields, points in this video at 1:27:30 that Bitcoin is very poorly suited for hackathons. If NXT is better suited, the marketing team should leverage this advantage as one of the points of the revitalization plan.
+1440

NXT is the Linux of crypto, a real dev's platform :P

yes and Linux runs most supercomputers and simulation clusters in the world - correct me if I am wrong there.
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« Reply #67 on: December 15, 2015, 10:25:01 pm »


You completely missed the point. Asset/Asset is not a "form of barter, thats inefficent". A/A will allow each asset to be traded against BTC, instead of that unstable underlying NXT currency that keeps many asset issuers away.

Oh, I see then, well if it can be traded against BTC, directly, not via an internediary asset like mBTC, that would be really great.

It could bring many people in who would like to invest directly with BTC, due to lazyiness or whatever (dont want exposure to NXT).

I don't think Twin meant trading BTC directly against AE assets, because for starters that would require cross-chain support in the Nxt client. Using BTC in Asset/Asset trading requires by definition a BTC asset, a BTC token in the AE like currently superBTC is.
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« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2015, 04:14:49 am »


You completely missed the point. Asset/Asset is not a "form of barter, thats inefficent". A/A will allow each asset to be traded against BTC, instead of that unstable underlying NXT currency that keeps many asset issuers away.

Oh, I see then, well if it can be traded against BTC, directly, not via an internediary asset like mBTC, that would be really great.

It could bring many people in who would like to invest directly with BTC, due to lazyiness or whatever (dont want exposure to NXT).

I don't think Twin meant trading BTC directly against AE assets, because for starters that would require cross-chain support in the Nxt client. Using BTC in Asset/Asset trading requires by definition a BTC asset, a BTC token in the AE like currently superBTC is.

Ok that is also a possibility, but then NXT will need a high liquidity superBTC <-> BTC exchange.

Last time I checked the maximum transaction size for that exchange wasn't that big. So traders who would want to join might not because the liquidity is small.
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« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2015, 02:25:28 pm »


You completely missed the point. Asset/Asset is not a "form of barter, thats inefficent". A/A will allow each asset to be traded against BTC, instead of that unstable underlying NXT currency that keeps many asset issuers away.

Oh, I see then, well if it can be traded against BTC, directly, not via an internediary asset like mBTC, that would be really great.

It could bring many people in who would like to invest directly with BTC, due to lazyiness or whatever (dont want exposure to NXT).

I don't think Twin meant trading BTC directly against AE assets, because for starters that would require cross-chain support in the Nxt client. Using BTC in Asset/Asset trading requires by definition a BTC asset, a BTC token in the AE like currently superBTC is.

Ok that is also a possibility, but then NXT will need a high liquidity superBTC <-> BTC exchange.

Last time I checked the maximum transaction size for that exchange wasn't that big. So traders who would want to join might not because the liquidity is small.
You have to see superBTC as a normal Bitcoin. If you have superBTC, you can either exchange it for NXT on the AE or you withdraw it to any Bitcoin address. So, you could also send the BTC to an exchange with high liquidity and sell them there.

This is why asset-to-asset trading is essential for Nxt as crowdfunding platform. Someone could create an easy-to-use crowdfunding platform on top of Nxt/SuperNET and make use of the SuperBTC token. These can then be used to fund a project directly in Bitcoin.
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« Reply #70 on: December 16, 2015, 03:02:16 pm »

 
You have to see superBTC as a normal Bitcoin. If you have superBTC, you can either exchange it for NXT on the AE or you withdraw it to any Bitcoin address. So, you could also send the BTC to an exchange with high liquidity and sell them there.
 

Indeed. For every superBTC there is a real BTC in one of the MGW BTC accounts, superBTC is 100% backed by 'real' BTC!

Also, this can be verified at all times by simply looking at the BTC address.
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« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2015, 09:41:30 pm »

Indeed. For every superBTC there is a real BTC in one of the MGW BTC accounts, superBTC is 100% backed by 'real' BTC!

Also, this can be verified at all times by simply looking at the BTC address.

The first part is correct - but the second (verifying the superBTC you have are backed by BTC by checking your BTC address) is not.

For instance, I can buy superBTC in the AE, and redeem them for BTC, without even having a MGW deposit address for that account. Most importantly, all the MGW multisig address are handled internally like addresses in a distributed multisig wallet. This means that the input from a deposit a user made will be used for a multisig withdraw from another user, and this eventually leads to balances being internally distributed between all the active multisig addresses. The important point is that the total of unspents in all the MGW addresses will match the amount of superBTC in circulation. As stated in the asset description, "The balances in the multi-signature accounts will change internally and do not represent the amount of BTC in your account, the superBTC assets you own do".
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« Reply #72 on: December 17, 2015, 09:59:30 am »

Great topic Realbitcoin! Love your enthusiasm!  :)

I have been in Nxt from december 2013 and I have seen everything happen. The one thing that surprised me all the time is that every time we create new features, the price of NXT is hardly climbing. I found it very strange in a volatiel market as crypto's. Normally every fart changes the price of a cryptocoin. Nxt was different than the rest and that has been a downside of being a pioneer in crypto.

Nxt was hardly accepted on the major exchanges, because they only accepted clones of Bitcoin. I really think if we had that exposure and buy/sell power, Nxt would be very big (in the top3)! In the world of crypto a lot of things change quickly and the exchange operators were very busy keeping up with the competition and making sure they did not get hacked. Only a few exchanges accepted Nxt (and still do....).

But being different than the rest also has it's benefits. We have working features for a long time which the other crypto's don't have. We only need to create demand! Why would someone new want to join Nxt?

Nxt has to be easy and bring ease and value to someones live. I think we really need to work on ease to use in reallife instead of creating extra features from which I don't even know what they mean, let alone outside-crypto people will... There is not much demand for that.

People want a simple app on there phone to send encrypted messages, forge, send Nxt , monitor there assets and buy/sell them. That would be nice. When things starting to be difficult for outside-crypto-people they bounce back and never try it again.

There needs to be incentive too. What attracts people to Nxt? People all wanted to mine for Bitcoins, it's like a gold fever, the idea to make money with your computer is like magic! That attracted me too, not sending BTC (my bankaccount and app works like the best, better than every crypto).

Love your marketing campaign Realbitcoin  :) , but I think it's not the right time now. We need to set up the new website (working on it), create a app, better video's, incentive (giveaways, bounties, etc..) and demand first. When people than see Nxt, they maybe think: This is what I need now!

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« Reply #73 on: December 17, 2015, 03:07:18 pm »

We haven't even tried to make a bigger marketing campaign based on CfBish arguments on why NXT is the answer to Bitcoin's downsides.

There has been such a campaign in the early days conducted by CfB himself. It was a success: The community now and the money invested in NXT since then are more or less the result of that campaign. But it took place on the Bitcoin forum and had no money to spread the word in a more hearable way. Now we have that money!

But it seems that the community today thinks that potential newcomers to NXT cannot grasp what they grasped back then when CfB told them on bitcointalkforum. That implies that they believe to be smarter than the audience they are marketing NXT to. And that other crypto friends cannot understand the real reasons for NXT. I think this assumption is very wrong.

No hate guys. I just try to make my point: We shouldn't give up before we haven't tried to promote NXT professionally (which we can now because we have the money, CfB couldn't) based on its advantages over Bitcoin. Newbs will be able to understand what we understood. They just need to hear the basic arguments. Holding NXT and waiting for the price to rise, i.e. others to buy without them knowing the reason why we are holding NXT and not something else, is a self-contradiction. My only premise is that if only a few more percent of CMC users knew what many of us learned from CfB, the price of NXT could turn north. Which would be the best marketing of all.

There is no real use case for crypto right now besides speculation. (Marc said that in earlier videos. I don't understand why he now thinks that the AE is the answer to the marketing question. If it is despair, I don't think that we should be desperate before we even tried.) And speculators in crypto are looking for the best form of money and finance solutions. We have something better to offer here than the market leader. Let's tell the crypto community. Let's have banners on CMC.

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« Reply #74 on: December 17, 2015, 03:40:47 pm »


You have to see superBTC as a normal Bitcoin. If you have superBTC, you can either exchange it for NXT on the AE or you withdraw it to any Bitcoin address. So, you could also send the BTC to an exchange with high liquidity and sell them there.

This is why asset-to-asset trading is essential for Nxt as crowdfunding platform. Someone could create an easy-to-use crowdfunding platform on top of Nxt/SuperNET and make use of the SuperBTC token. These can then be used to fund a project directly in Bitcoin.

Well its not.

It's like BTC is M0, bitcoin deposits in exchanges or sites are M1, and bitcoin claimable assets are M2/M3 depending on liquidity

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/m3.asp


superBTC is only BTC if it can be claimed for BTC in a short time, and with larger volume (I mean if NXT really gets out, expect to see millions of $ / minute flowing in and out of NXT via that gateway)

So you will need a high liquidity, fast processing system to handle BTC conversions.
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« Reply #75 on: December 17, 2015, 03:47:45 pm »

Let's have banners on CMC.

I think their prices are ludicrious

http://cointelegraph.com/advertise-with-bitcoins

100,000 impressions = 450 clicks = 1000$?

I know sites where you can get 1000 banner clicks for 20$ and they are high quality too. I`m testing them right now, so I`ll do ROUND 3 pretty soon :)
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« Reply #76 on: December 17, 2015, 05:50:31 pm »

Let's have banners on CMC.

I think their prices are ludicrious

http://cointelegraph.com/advertise-with-bitcoins

100,000 impressions = 450 clicks = 1000$?

I know sites where you can get 1000 banner clicks for 20$ and they are high quality too. I`m testing them right now, so I`ll do ROUND 3 pretty soon :)

I completely agree with this assessment.
To show how ridiculous spending money on this (and why we aren't doing this) a few observations:

1. The aim of advertising is attracting new users (as an example). It is VERY normal to set an amount of money you would be willing to spend on that goal. Let's go with a fairly standard metric of 1% conversion of clicks. The above example would mean we'd get 4.5 new users per 100,000 impressions. This would mean 1000/4.5=$ 222,22 per new user. Erm, I don't think so.

2. The ad that is most seen on CMC is Neucoin. I would like to claim "Enough said" about how effective they are in creating a better image by banners. Nope, not going to work.

3. By advertising on CMC, you are trying to convert the converted, which means the metrics for CTR and CPA need to be even lower because there is a lot more resistance. So the $222,22 per user is probably even optimistic...

Very happy with the work you are doing here, RealBitcoin!
It's good to have someone doing this and as I said in PM, the effects are very visible on the site traffic :)
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« Reply #77 on: December 18, 2015, 09:26:09 am »

Let's have banners on CMC.

I think their prices are ludicrious

http://cointelegraph.com/advertise-with-bitcoins

100,000 impressions = 450 clicks = 1000$?

I know sites where you can get 1000 banner clicks for 20$ and they are high quality too. I`m testing them right now, so I`ll do ROUND 3 pretty soon :)

I completely agree with this assessment.
To show how ridiculous spending money on this (and why we aren't doing this) a few observations:

1. The aim of advertising is attracting new users (as an example). It is VERY normal to set an amount of money you would be willing to spend on that goal. Let's go with a fairly standard metric of 1% conversion of clicks. The above example would mean we'd get 4.5 new users per 100,000 impressions. This would mean 1000/4.5=$ 222,22 per new user. Erm, I don't think so.

2. The ad that is most seen on CMC is Neucoin. I would like to claim "Enough said" about how effective they are in creating a better image by banners. Nope, not going to work.

3. By advertising on CMC, you are trying to convert the converted, which means the metrics for CTR and CPA need to be even lower because there is a lot more resistance. So the $222,22 per user is probably even optimistic...

Very happy with the work you are doing here, RealBitcoin!
It's good to have someone doing this and as I said in PM, the effects are very visible on the site traffic :)

With my current estimations the maximum you can reasonably allocate is about 12 cents/ visitor. Anything above that is crazy and it wont achieve better results.

Just because an ad campain is more expensive, doesnt mean anything. Like how TV ads are usually 50x more expensive than newspaper ads, yet i bet it's hardly efficient, since TV ads are like a hypnotization now and people have really became immune to it, or you go to the bathroom when a commercial appears so nobody really listens, while a newspaper ad is voluntary, it's before your eyes and you can read it if you want, or if not then just turn to another page.

So for this my strategy I believe is more voluntary ads, like banner.

I might have been wrong about banner ads earlier, but we shall see soon.
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« Reply #78 on: December 18, 2015, 10:03:16 am »

Hi :D
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With my current estimations the maximum you can reasonably allocate is about 12 cents/ visitor. Anything above that is crazy and it wont achieve better results.

12 cents/ account activation! mean download the wallet + get some free nxt from the forum  ;)

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100,000 impressions = 450 clicks = 1000$?
inastall ABP (AdBlock) plug-in in your browser... if the ads spaces are blocked by ABP... even if you offer me
100,000 impressions = 450 clicks = 1$ i dont take  ;)

explore the "backlinks" way! this is a long term advertising and not blocked but you have to select wisely and intelligently the sites where you will place them... trafic, activity...

thank you and good continuation  :D
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« Reply #79 on: December 18, 2015, 01:09:15 pm »

Hi :D
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With my current estimations the maximum you can reasonably allocate is about 12 cents/ visitor. Anything above that is crazy and it wont achieve better results.

12 cents/ account activation! mean download the wallet + get some free nxt from the forum  ;)

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100,000 impressions = 450 clicks = 1000$?
inastall ABP (AdBlock) plug-in in your browser... if the ads spaces are blocked by ABP... even if you offer me
100,000 impressions = 450 clicks = 1$ i dont take  ;)

explore the "backlinks" way! this is a long term advertising and not blocked but you have to select wisely and intelligently the sites where you will place them... trafic, activity...

thank you and good continuation  :D

I dont think people visiting faucets have adblock because they are required to disable, plus I dont think adblock blocks bitcoin ad networks.

It is only for google ads mostly.

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« Reply #80 on: December 21, 2015, 08:19:05 pm »

Ok 2nd round is finished, i recalculated the daily difference between the method, and seems like round 2 was more effective but only by a little so its hard to tell, it can just be noise or fake forum accounts.

So I think we can try a banner campaign too: https://coinad.com/?a=Advertise

They are giving huge amounts of impressions, and even if the imps dont convert to clicks  , we can still get the brand out, because of the nice logos.

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« Reply #81 on: December 21, 2015, 08:32:30 pm »

ROUND 3

This time we try out a nice banner campaign, more for NXT brand promotion, even if the CTR is small, if we can influence the NXT logo and theme into the minds of viewers then they will be more interested in it in the future. So this is a visual memorization test, that is why i selected a big juicy 160x600 ad for this.

Here is the tracker:  https://coinad.com/?a=Ad&b=A4UFT6RLXCN3Z

Details:  150,000 impressions ,  160x600 banner ,  0.05 btc cost
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« Reply #82 on: December 25, 2015, 07:20:31 pm »

Merry Christsmas guys.

I was thinking about real hard about NXT, and how can we really increase membership.

It looks like direct advertising is not an option. It could work, but it's not the holy grail and it would cost unproportionally big compared to the results. So why waste bitcoins on that.

In fact I figured out how can we really get people to join NXT, and i found the ultimate solution which summed up is like this:

"In order to get something , you have to give something"

So advertising nxt.org is not the most efficient thing we can do. I`m looking for the cheapest method with the highest results, that is what efficiency means.

So instead of advertising NXT itself, we need an NXT service that gives out NXT and we need to advertise that instead. So an NXT faucet, an NXT task site, or any other NXT service that gives out NXT, even an NXT gambling site. Anything more attractive than just a plain website.

I was browsing through all BTC ads, and 99% of them are just Bitcoin faucets, why not do the same for NXT? It is a proven marketing strategy because it works for bitcoin. Probably a faucet or a gambling game, or both.


So what do you think about my plan. If you agree, please list here all NXT website services that we can use, because I`m not familiar with  all of them. So please give me a list of all NXT services that can be advertised, and through that we will achieve bigger success than just advertising a website.
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« Reply #83 on: December 25, 2015, 07:41:10 pm »

All NXT needs is a cutting edge, userfriendly, and nice design gambling game, just like this was:

https://nxtbubble.com  @TwinWinNerD


How do I know for sure? Simple just look at satoshidice:

https://www.satoshidice.com/

Since 2012 working gambling site, that played an enormous part in bitcoin's history ,and in my opinion it was one of the main reasons why bitcoin went so popular. Therefore a similar but even more exciting gambling game can make NXT go popular too.

It is the utmost importance to restore that NXT bubble game, or something similar. NXT really needs a popular casino to become mainstream :)
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« Reply #84 on: December 25, 2015, 08:04:38 pm »

To put it in perspective, if we can setup a succesful NXT gambling site, it can easily push a 10-20 million $ volume, like any other major crypto gambling site.

So what if bitcoin loses 20,000,000$ in value, thats nothing, it's less 0.3% in price, nobody  will care.

But if NXT gains 20,000,000$ in value, that is a +407.69% gain for NXT, and it needs only a good casino!

Think about it guys :)
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« Reply #85 on: January 02, 2016, 07:32:41 am »

Happy new year guys!!

So what about my suggestions, did anyone consider making a gambling game?
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« Reply #86 on: January 02, 2016, 09:36:22 am »

Happy New Year to you too!!   8)

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« Reply #87 on: January 03, 2016, 11:26:38 am »

just a thought - why not ask these guys:

https://www.crypto-games.net/slot.aspx?coin=BTC

they already have games set up and running, maybe getting them on board to integrating NXT will be more efficient than reinventing the wheel game of chance?

in fact, creating a game of chance from scratch ain't as easy as it looks- the devil is in the details...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750760.0
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« Reply #88 on: January 03, 2016, 12:40:29 pm »

you probably have to look towards the supernet team in terms of gambling. i dont know about their progress, afaik they only post updates on slack these days.

https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/%28pre-ann%29-neodice/
https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/pangea-poker/
https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/privatebet-fully-decentralized-peer-to-peer-betting/
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« Reply #89 on: January 03, 2016, 12:55:36 pm »

just a thought - why not ask these guys:

https://www.crypto-games.net/slot.aspx?coin=BTC

they already have games set up and running, maybe getting them on board to integrating NXT will be more efficient than reinventing the wheel game of chance?

in fact, creating a game of chance from scratch ain't as easy as it looks- the devil is in the details...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750760.0

That is a great idea, i will drop them an e-mail asking them to add NXT, but the problem is that that game is not exclusively for NXT.

If it would be only for NXT it would give us a marketing advantage. If we start advertising them, then we advertise their service not NXT.

I would like a casino only for NXT, with which if we advertise that, we passively advertise NXT and create demand for it.

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« Reply #90 on: January 03, 2016, 12:56:58 pm »

you probably have to look towards the supernet team in terms of gambling. i dont know about their progress, afaik they only post updates on slack these days.

https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/%28pre-ann%29-neodice/
https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/pangea-poker/
https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/privatebet-fully-decentralized-peer-to-peer-betting/

Yes the pangea could be a winner, I had my eye on them for a few days now but after I read up on them i didnt saw them finish.

Or am I wrong on that, is it ready to play on it?
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« Reply #91 on: January 03, 2016, 01:13:33 pm »

the supernet stuff will not be nxt exclusive. my guess is it will be for the pool of supernet coins + bitcoin (superBTC?).
afaik none of it is finished. neodice is/was live, but without any GUI. if they dont have already, they might add neodice to the supernet client soon.

since all those supernet offerings are more or less decentralized i would assume they won't be running on a website (at most as a centralized gateway). that creates another hurdle to actually get people who click the adds to download a client. not sure if that makes for a good entry point in terms of advertising.
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« Reply #92 on: January 03, 2016, 01:17:57 pm »

the supernet stuff will not be nxt exclusive. my guess is it will be for the pool of supernet coins + bitcoin (superBTC?).
afaik none of it is finished. neodice is/was live, but without any GUI. if they dont have already, they might add neodice to the supernet client soon.

since all those supernet offerings are more or less decentralized i would assume they won't be running on a website (at most as a centralized gateway). that creates another hurdle to actually get people who click the adds to download a client. not sure if that makes for a good entry point in terms of advertising.

Yes maybe but it's more NXT oriented, the other coins from supernet are also similar to NXT like syscoin are almost complimentary

But yeah advertising Supernet can also be a good idea, because it is like a parent organization for NXT and the others.
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« Reply #93 on: January 03, 2016, 03:54:33 pm »

how much of the 1btc marc send did you spent so far? is it all gone? how many new users did we gain? if you could take a guess: what exactly was the conversion in user/btc (or users/mbtc).
i thought this thing had some success. is it really not worth it to continue for now and move on to better adds when gambling or something else worth advertising is there?
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« Reply #94 on: January 03, 2016, 08:32:18 pm »

how much of the 1btc marc send did you spent so far? is it all gone? how many new users did we gain? if you could take a guess: what exactly was the conversion in user/btc (or users/mbtc).
i thought this thing had some success. is it really not worth it to continue for now and move on to better adds when gambling or something else worth advertising is there?

Check out the first post, or look at the btc address, about 0.2 [btc] was spent so far.

We did have some progress but not that big, that is why i thought making an NXT gambling site and advertising that would be better
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« Reply #95 on: January 03, 2016, 10:38:12 pm »

sorry, didn't check the first post.

i personally think that you should keep going. i don't see any nxt gambling offerings around the corner.

coin shuffling is going live towards the end of january. that could make for a good ad. we could create specific banners and most importantly a simple/better/shuffling specific landing page. just html/css would work. maybe nxt.org could host such a site.

http://jnxt.org/countdown/?block=621000
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« Reply #96 on: January 04, 2016, 06:06:23 am »

(crosspost)

I think it seems so hard to create successful projects in the cryptosphere because in the fiat world it seems to be too easy- which still does not make it viable.

http://markstcyr.com/2016/01/03/why-silicon-valley-may-be-at-defcon-1-status/

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Uber™ for all intents and purposes; is an app that let’s you hail a cab. Current valuation? $50+ BILLION dollars looking to finance another round bringing it up to over $60 BILLION. The reaction, analysis and commentary? “Absolutely! Sounds logical and reasonable. After all They’re killing it!” Fair enough. I’ll just ask you this:
 
This business model and plan is worth more than 80% of all the companies listed in the S&P?

REALLY?  ::)

So the reason why NXTers are finding it hard to developing economically successful projects based in the cryptocurrency ecosystems is- that it is hard!
On the other hand, cryptocurrency ecosystems offer an evolutionary conduit into the real world, the real world as in opposed to fiat bloated central bank controlled economy.

Which means that it is far more healthy to start a project in the cryptocurrency sphere, because the metrics here are gauging the real world, and not the prancing unicorn lala-land.

So let's just see it this way, and not bemoan how hard it seems to be to get a project going!
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« Reply #97 on: January 04, 2016, 08:32:24 am »

you mean we should advertise to startups?
its not very convincing right now to use nxt. the token is just too volatile. with the bear market possibly coming to an end, that could turn into a positive thing. i still think asset/asset trading would be beneficial. unfortunately the devs can't be bother to even post their stance on it.

another idea: has there been an asset faucet yet? instead of giving out tokens, we could give a couple of nxt + an asset. it might spark some interest.

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« Reply #98 on: January 04, 2016, 10:03:05 am »

We did have some progress but not that big, that is why i thought making an NXT gambling site and advertising that would be better

I think your work is quite good, we started with NXT at 0.005 and we had two high at 0.006 & 0.007 with a positive trend on the last month! Maybe you are not the only parameters in this fresh air but you defenitly have your part of responsibility. keep the good work :)
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« Reply #99 on: January 04, 2016, 10:13:59 am »


We did have some progress but not that big, that is why i thought making an NXT gambling site and advertising that would be better

I think your work is quite good, we started with NXT at 0.005 and we had two high at 0.006 & 0.007 with a positive trend on the last month! Maybe you are not the only parameters in this fresh air but you defenitly have your part of responsibility. keep the good work :)
To be frank, the price spike is mostly due to cryptsy. Apparently, NXT withdrawals still work so people buy NXT, transfer to another exchange and sell again.
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« Reply #100 on: January 04, 2016, 09:52:03 pm »

Only way forward (with any crypto) is marketing, getting mass adoption.

We can all do our bit, but what we really need is to get business' to partner up and use NXT.

Its not easy, but the best thing you can do is spread the word.

Look at all the hard yards Makoto has been doing with NEM, he has got banks signed up to use their own private blockchain which can connect to NEM.

We could do something similar, but it does not have to be banks.

Think outside the box.
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« Reply #101 on: January 05, 2016, 06:55:51 am »

Start businesses that need NXT and market them.

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« Reply #102 on: January 05, 2016, 01:00:42 pm »


another idea: has there been an asset faucet yet? instead of giving out tokens, we could give a couple of nxt + an asset. it might spark some interest.

Well at the moment we dont have any services at all. The only ones that are used are coinomat and coinimal, and a few extras here and there.

That might explain why NXT is going down, we really need more services, even if they are just faucets, we need to expand somehow :)
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« Reply #103 on: January 05, 2016, 01:04:06 pm »

sorry, didn't check the first post.

i personally think that you should keep going. i don't see any nxt gambling offerings around the corner.

coin shuffling is going live towards the end of january. that could make for a good ad. we could create specific banners and most importantly a simple/better/shuffling specific landing page. just html/css would work. maybe nxt.org could host such a site.

http://jnxt.org/countdown/?block=621000

Ok I will continue in the meantime, and see if I can find a cheaper ad solution. I think the cheapest is about 76 clicks for 0.01 so that is about 7600 interested folks with 1 BTC.

Tell me if that is reasonable, because a banner ad is more selective and it can select interested people more easily.

If we can boost membership with 7600 interested folks, what impact will that have on NXT?
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« Reply #104 on: January 05, 2016, 09:26:42 pm »

Yup, keep on rolling. Maybe wait a bit until the new nxt.org goes live (which will be soon), and we've got the 1.7.4 hardfork out of the way (which will mean that CoinShuffling will also be live).

The first ad campaign was definitely generating more traffic to nxt.org, but way too many people bailed before getting further into the site.
The new version of nxt.org will be explicitly set up to funnel people into actually using Nxt, so more of the traffic will convert into actual users.
So, go for it, mate.
Tennessee will probably be able to sort out some funds to cover advertising costs, once Marcs Bitcoin runs out.
(need to discuss this with Damelon and RealBitcoin, but it seems like an easy decision right now.)

For the rest: just keep on spreading the word, posting/Tweeting/making contacts and promoting Nxt wherever you can, guys.
Every little bit helps, even if it doesn't seem immediately useful. Any complex project is just a collection of little pieces.... ;D
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« Reply #105 on: January 05, 2016, 09:39:29 pm »


Every little bit helps, even if it doesn't seem immediately useful.
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« Reply #106 on: January 05, 2016, 09:56:35 pm »

Yup, keep on rolling. Maybe wait a bit until the new nxt.org goes live (which will be soon), and we've got the 1.7.4 hardfork out of the way (which will mean that CoinShuffling will also be live).

The first ad campaign was definitely generating more traffic to nxt.org, but way too many people bailed before getting further into the site.
The new version of nxt.org will be explicitly set up to funnel people into actually using Nxt, so more of the traffic will convert into actual users.
So, go for it, mate.
Tennessee will probably be able to sort out some funds to cover advertising costs, once Marcs Bitcoin runs out.
(need to discuss this with Damelon and RealBitcoin, but it seems like an easy decision right now.)

For the rest: just keep on spreading the word, posting/Tweeting/making contacts and promoting Nxt wherever you can, guys.
Every little bit helps, even if it doesn't seem immediately useful. Any complex project is just a collection of little pieces.... ;D

Did a little research on banner ad campaigns, and it turns out that bitmedia.io is the cheapest for banner advertising.

And quality really doesn't matter with banner ads, because the users click voluntarly on the banner, so if the ad its on the top of the page or at bottom doesnt matter, 1 click is still 1 click, an interested person curious about NXT and wanting to learn more about it.

So I just created a bitmedia campaign for NXT, which will be soon online after the ads are approved. Let's see how it turns out!

There are my target countries, here I can geo-filter visitors, i have selected them based on bitcointalk activity in local threads, tell me if you agree or disagree with the list

Australia
Canada
China
France
Germany
Greece
Hong Kong
India
Indonesia
Italy
Netherlands
New Zealand
Portugal
Spain
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States

(I have not added east european countries because many botnets come from there and can hurt our efficiency)
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« Reply #107 on: January 06, 2016, 03:24:45 am »

Yup, keep on rolling. Maybe wait a bit until the new nxt.org goes live (which will be soon), and we've got the 1.7.4 hardfork out of the way (which will mean that CoinShuffling will also be live).

The first ad campaign was definitely generating more traffic to nxt.org, but way too many people bailed before getting further into the site.
The new version of nxt.org will be explicitly set up to funnel people into actually using Nxt, so more of the traffic will convert into actual users.
So, go for it, mate.
Tennessee will probably be able to sort out some funds to cover advertising costs, once Marcs Bitcoin runs out.
(need to discuss this with Damelon and RealBitcoin, but it seems like an easy decision right now.)

For the rest: just keep on spreading the word, posting/Tweeting/making contacts and promoting Nxt wherever you can, guys.
Every little bit helps, even if it doesn't seem immediately useful. Any complex project is just a collection of little pieces.... ;D

Did a little research on banner ad campaigns, and it turns out that bitmedia.io is the cheapest for banner advertising.

And quality really doesn't matter with banner ads, because the users click voluntarly on the banner, so if the ad its on the top of the page or at bottom doesnt matter, 1 click is still 1 click, an interested person curious about NXT and wanting to learn more about it.

So I just created a bitmedia campaign for NXT, which will be soon online after the ads are approved. Let's see how it turns out!

There are my target countries, here I can geo-filter visitors, i have selected them based on bitcointalk activity in local threads, tell me if you agree or disagree with the list

Australia
Canada
China
France
Germany
Greece
Hong Kong
India
Indonesia
Italy
Netherlands
New Zealand
Portugal
Spain
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States

(I have not added east european countries because many botnets come from there and can hurt our efficiency)

Good to see New Zealand here, i want to see our NXT community grow some more.
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« Reply #108 on: January 06, 2016, 07:57:21 pm »


Good to see New Zealand here, i want to see our NXT community grow some more.

I dont know about NZ, but  I added all major english speaking countries, USA,UK,AU,NZ etc..

Then I checked the activity in the bitcointalk forums, from what countries do most bitcoiners come, and added those too, with the exception of Ukraine and Russia because there are many russians in bitcoin, however there are also very many botnets from those places, so I rather not want traffic from bots.

Here are my targets, I like how they geo targeting features and a map to show it



We will do a campaign of 0.2btc , but in smaller increments probably 0.05 and see how it goes, it is currenly the cheapest banner CPM that I`ve encountered, and i tested many ad networks.

So let's see how it goes
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« Reply #109 on: January 06, 2016, 09:01:55 pm »


Good to see New Zealand here, i want to see our NXT community grow some more.

I dont know about NZ, but  I added all major english speaking countries, USA,UK,AU,NZ etc..

Then I checked the activity in the bitcointalk forums, from what countries do most bitcoiners come, and added those too, with the exception of Ukraine and Russia because there are many russians in bitcoin, however there are also very many botnets from those places, so I rather not want traffic from bots.

Here are my targets, I like how they geo targeting features and a map to show it



We will do a campaign of 0.2btc , but in smaller increments probably 0.05 and see how it goes, it is currenly the cheapest banner CPM that I`ve encountered, and i tested many ad networks.

So let's see how it goes

Sounds good.

I was thinking of a proposal to advertise on trademe.co.nz, since its the busiest site in NZ.
I dont know the costs involved, but since its an online auction site, people would be attracted to instant payments for auctions.
Trademe has none of the restrictions to paypal like ebay does.
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« Reply #110 on: January 06, 2016, 11:30:07 pm »


Sounds good.

I was thinking of a proposal to advertise on trademe.co.nz, since its the busiest site in NZ.
I dont know the costs involved, but since its an online auction site, people would be attracted to instant payments for auctions.
Trademe has none of the restrictions to paypal like ebay does.

Oh no i dont think it is efficient to advertise it to non-bitcoin people. At the moment bitcoin is the only gateway to crypto, if people dont know what bitcoin is, then dont even bother with NXT, i dont think NXT has enough marketing appeal yet to be advertised separately from BTC.

Those guys will have no idea how NXT works and how to use it, and i dont think until Supernet is ready, we should do that.

After it becomes 1 click to use it with a non-beta supernet, then we can talk about it ;)
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« Reply #111 on: January 07, 2016, 09:04:03 pm »


Sounds good.

I was thinking of a proposal to advertise on trademe.co.nz, since its the busiest site in NZ.
I dont know the costs involved, but since its an online auction site, people would be attracted to instant payments for auctions.
Trademe has none of the restrictions to paypal like ebay does.

Oh no i dont think it is efficient to advertise it to non-bitcoin people. At the moment bitcoin is the only gateway to crypto, if people dont know what bitcoin is, then dont even bother with NXT, i dont think NXT has enough marketing appeal yet to be advertised separately from BTC.

Those guys will have no idea how NXT works and how to use it, and i dont think until Supernet is ready, we should do that.

After it becomes 1 click to use it with a non-beta supernet, then we can talk about it ;)

Yeah possibly, although there a a few on trademe aware of bitcoin and crypto.

Anyway, if NXT can be used as an attractive means to shopping on online auctions, i think it would be great.

I know that Ebay itself is really concerned about bitcoin as a threat to paypal, although i see that Ebay recently sold off paypal.
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« Reply #112 on: January 08, 2016, 12:53:29 am »

Only way forward (with any crypto) is marketing, getting mass adoption.

We can all do our bit, but what we really need is to get business' to partner up and use NXT.

Its not easy, but the best thing you can do is spread the word.

Look at all the hard yards Makoto has been doing with NEM, he has got banks signed up to use their own private blockchain which can connect to NEM.

We could do something similar, but it does not have to be banks.

Think outside the box.

Totally Agree with these points.
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« Reply #113 on: January 08, 2016, 06:57:41 am »

Sponsoring crypto podcasts like LetsTalkBitcoin or The Daily Decrypt would be a great way to go. Currently NuBits and Dash have been advertising on her show.
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« Reply #114 on: January 08, 2016, 07:43:32 am »


I believe that the OpenSIM venue offers tremendous potential:

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/(white-rabbit)-nxt-opensimulator!!-what-we-can-do-with/

For some reasons, cryptocurrencies are totally ignorant of these virtual worlds- whereas it seems obvious to me that cryptos should go hand in glove with them!

These are not major obstacles, and we can easily overcome them!

Establishing the NXT ecosystem in these sim worlds may put us way ahead of all others in terms of utility!

What are your thoughts? 
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« Reply #115 on: January 08, 2016, 07:53:00 am »

Before NXT has Asset to Asset trading I don't think anything really good can happen to NXT ecosystem.
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« Reply #116 on: January 08, 2016, 07:32:02 pm »


I believe that the OpenSIM venue offers tremendous potential:

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/(white-rabbit)-nxt-opensimulator!!-what-we-can-do-with/

For some reasons, cryptocurrencies are totally ignorant of these virtual worlds- whereas it seems obvious to me that cryptos should go hand in glove with them!

These are not major obstacles, and we can easily overcome them!

Establishing the NXT ecosystem in these sim worlds may put us way ahead of all others in terms of utility!

What are your thoughts?

Yes definitely that can become a billion $ market.

I expect a crypto twin to Secondlife game, although i hardly play games anymore, i would easily try that one out if it would become available in cryptocurrencies.
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« Reply #117 on: January 08, 2016, 08:07:30 pm »


I believe that the OpenSIM venue offers tremendous potential:

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/(white-rabbit)-nxt-opensimulator!!-what-we-can-do-with/

For some reasons, cryptocurrencies are totally ignorant of these virtual worlds- whereas it seems obvious to me that cryptos should go hand in glove with them!

These are not major obstacles, and we can easily overcome them!

Establishing the NXT ecosystem in these sim worlds may put us way ahead of all others in terms of utility!

What are your thoughts?

Yes definitely that can become a billion $ market.

I expect a crypto twin to Secondlife game, although i hardly play games anymore, i would easily try that one out if it would become available in cryptocurrencies.
second life and it's owner linden lab dont allow other currencies into them virtual world! even them own currency (L$) you have to be authorized to exchange it to fial to do... second life is not the metaverse under opensim!

the virtual worlds are not games but an evolution of the web and the social networking technologies , the difference is that is in 3D and offers more possibilities than the normal web, we can call it the Web 3.0 or the Web3D... the limit of the applications is your own imagination and the server power (CPU/RAM...) you can use it like you want and opensimulator is open source and free.

i invite you to join my initiative by renting a land in the community virtual world, will cost you only 3000 NXT per year (+5 to 10$ for the building) and will be a very good starting point for all the crypto-currencies communitys not only the NXT... we will promote the project as proof of concept and work...
(i recommand you one of the yellow lands in the topic map)

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« Reply #118 on: January 08, 2016, 10:05:38 pm »


second life and it's owner linden lab dont allow other currencies into them virtual world! even them own currency (L$) you have to be authorized to exchange it to fial to do... second life is not the metaverse under opensim!

the virtual worlds are not games but an evolution of the web and the social networking technologies , the difference is that is in 3D and offers more possibilities than the normal web, we can call it the Web 3.0 or the Web3D... the limit of the applications is your own imagination and the server power (CPU/RAM...) you can use it like you want and opensimulator is open source and free.

i invite you to join my initiative by renting a land in the community virtual world, will cost you only 3000 NXT per year (+5 to 10$ for the building) and will be a very good starting point for all the crypto-currencies communitys not only the NXT... we will promote the project as proof of concept and work...
(i recommand you one of the yellow lands in the topic map)

Thank you and @++

I know but something similar to secondlife, based on crypto currencies.

Imagine a virtual world build on BTC, LTC, DOGE, NXT where people can really have a second life. It can be amazing.

And it can also create a virtual trading world, it could be very exciting. Whatever you do, keep working on that project and add more features to it, and people will join and play it.

You can be the next billionaire if you do it right.
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« Reply #119 on: January 08, 2016, 10:10:32 pm »

Regarding our campaign, i had very good timing and switched the bid price exactly on 9th, as the day just started a few minutes ago.



As you can see we got 32 clicks for 0.0032 btc, that is 10,000 satoshi for 1 click, by far the cheapest network as i observed.

But the CTR is very low 0.15%, which indicates less interest, so i doubled the bid price to 20k satoshi, and i hope the CTR will more than double to be efficient.

So if we achieve 0.4% CTR with doubled bid, then that will signal a good step in the right direction.


This is the ad itself in case you wondered, those are the banners we used, 468x60 is too small actually:

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« Reply #120 on: January 08, 2016, 10:48:24 pm »

Added a 336x280 ad to the package, now the puzzle is complete, the rest of the banners are too small. This one was the only decent sized banner left. Too bad they dont offer the option for a huge 990x90 ad right in the top of the site, that should be the best performing one.

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« Reply #121 on: January 08, 2016, 11:37:02 pm »

Added a 336x280 ad to the package, now the puzzle is complete, the rest of the banners are too small. This one was the only decent sized banner left. Too bad they dont offer the option for a huge 990x90 ad right in the top of the site, that should be the best performing one.

http://i67.tinypic.com/20foi6x.png

Please use this more sharp version of mine.
It was easy to scale, same proportion.

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« Reply #122 on: January 09, 2016, 06:08:34 am »

Added a 336x280 ad to the package, now the puzzle is complete, the rest of the banners are too small. This one was the only decent sized banner left. Too bad they dont offer the option for a huge 990x90 ad right in the top of the site, that should be the best performing one.

http://i67.tinypic.com/20foi6x.png

Please use this more sharp version of mine.
It was easy to scale, same proportion.



Alright , updated now lets see how it goes!
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« Reply #123 on: January 10, 2016, 08:09:25 pm »

Made some modifications, and added a few more countries, based on google trends, there are many countries where bitcoin is booming, we could use that opportunity to promote NXT as well.

Australia
Canada
China
Croatia
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Ghana
Greece
Hong Kong
India
Indonesia
Israel
Italy
Latvia
Netherlands
New Zealand
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Singapore
Slovenia
South Korea
Spain
Sweden
Taiwan
Tunisia
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States

There are some additions to the previous list. I added Russia too, because bitmedia has a good anti-bot system, but then i started getting unproportionally high traffic from there, so I rather not risk it, so I removed it eventually.

So these are the current breakdowns of clicks:

Russia 52
United States 28
Germany 9
Indonesia 9
Canada 8
United Kingdom 8
India 5
France 5
Latvia 3
Philippines 3
Italy 2
Spain 2
Netherlands 2
Turkey 2
Israel 2
China 1
Sweden 1
Croatia 1
Portugal 1
Australia 1
Romania 1
Taiwan 1
Finland 1
Poland 1

Also lowered the bid down to minimum, the double bid is nonsense, i read that on a stupid blog, but it doesnt help us at all. Cheap traffic is the best.

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« Reply #124 on: January 11, 2016, 09:18:34 pm »

Ok guys this is the final version of the ad:



I wont modify it anymore because it takes a lot of time to get approved. I just added the 468x60 banner because its only CPC so it doesnt matter really how many imps we get, the clicks matter only.

So the ad is not active again, and I`ll leave it like this, untouched for 1 week and let's see the results.

Perhaps later on we can fill in the missing banner sizes. But for now it will be active continuously so that we can measure progress.
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« Reply #125 on: January 12, 2016, 11:47:47 pm »

I have solid info that these countries are the top bitcoin faucet users, by descending order:

United States
Russia
Indonesia
Ukraine
India
Brazil
Vietnam
United Kingdom
Spain
China
Portugal
Germany
Romania
Mexico
Venezuela
France
.......

Should we incorporate these countries (those that are not in already) in our advertising geo-target too?
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« Reply #126 on: January 13, 2016, 01:18:41 am »

Yes, that list makes sense, compare with the PeerExplorer world map:



From: www.peerexplorer.com

Russia is tricky, (because bots/exploits) but there is definitely a real market there.
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« Reply #127 on: January 14, 2016, 01:59:13 am »

Yes, that list makes sense, compare with the PeerExplorer world map:



From: www.peerexplorer.com

Russia is tricky, (because bots/exploits) but there is definitely a real market there.

Yep, i unfortunately excluded Russia, Belarus, Bulgaria and Ukraine  from it, there are tons of botnets from that region

There is also genuine users from Russia but it's impossible to distinguish from botnets so I rather not add it.
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« Reply #128 on: January 14, 2016, 02:02:00 am »

Ok guys we have delivered so far 337104 impressions and 395 clicks.

Breakdown of clicks (russia now excluded):

Indonesia 54
United States 52
Russia 52
India 42
Philippines 32
United Kingdom 19
Brazil 19
Turkey 17
Germany 16
Italy 14
Canada 13
France 12
Spain 12
Latvia 12
Netherlands 12
Tunisia 12
Vietnam 12
Romania 10
Israel 10
Thailand 10
Venezuela 10
etc...

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« Reply #129 on: January 18, 2016, 11:21:31 am »

Based on the current speed we will have a few more days left until the campaign is finished, and I already see volatility increasing by our campaign:

https://www.mynxt.info/charts/transactions_per_day.php (ZOOM 1M)

We dont see so many forum member signups, but we see many new NXT users, because not all new NXT users rush to the forum, they might just create a wallet for themselves, and might join later ( just like about 70% of BTC users don't even have a bitcointalk.org account):

https://www.mynxt.info/charts/number_of_accounts.php   (ZOOM 1M)

The number of transactions increases, while the volume decreases = MORE NEW USERS JOIN WITH LESS NXT TO MOVE, so we have new members!

https://www.mynxt.info/charts/transaction_volume_per_day.php (ZOOM 1M)

Assets are not being traded that much, new users don't care about assets that much, only about raw NXT.

https://www.mynxt.info/charts/trades_asset_exchange_per_day.php


So our project is beneficial to NXT, no matter what, of course it's not a big scale project yet with only 0.35 BTC spent so far, but it can get there and really revitalize NXT :)


Based on these stats ,asset TX volume:

http://nxtreporting.com/stats.php

I think Supernet is still the most anticipated asset/project.


Should we advertise Supernet too?  And let me know if you agree with my analysis!
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« Reply #130 on: January 18, 2016, 01:56:11 pm »

observing this forum i am seeing a few more new users and good activity in the russian sub board. could be a result of the campaign. the sample size is small, so a definite conclusion too early.
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« Reply #131 on: January 19, 2016, 10:56:27 am »

observing this forum i am seeing a few more new users and good activity in the russian sub board. could be a result of the campaign. the sample size is small, so a definite conclusion too early.

I`m not sure how much of it translates to the forum, since even on BTC, 70-75% of users dont really use bitcointalk.org

They might hang out on reddit , faucets, or exchanges, and not even have a bitcointalk.org account, and only reading it without account.

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« Reply #132 on: January 19, 2016, 05:55:13 pm »

Supernet advertising would be much more interesting than "next generation coin"
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« Reply #133 on: January 19, 2016, 06:24:48 pm »

Supernet advertising would be much more interesting than "next generation coin"

True, but this project is dedicated to help NXT, if Supernet were integreated / downloadable in NXT.org website then it would make it much easier for people to use NXT ,and then it would make more sense.

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« Reply #134 on: January 19, 2016, 07:31:06 pm »

The previous round just ended so i`ve topped up the balance again, and continue the project.

I`d like to see more results on this forum too, so i might add more countries to blacklist that have poorer quality traffic.
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« Reply #135 on: January 21, 2016, 07:03:06 pm »

A good slogan could be Elegant. Easy. All-in-one. Nxt, the future of money. Can we do a gif we each time one of these words next to the pictograms ?
We should drop these marketplace, coinshuffling and other. The list of features is on the website anyway. Just say that Nxt does everything.
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« Reply #136 on: January 22, 2016, 01:44:22 pm »

Ok folks, i`ll do an analysis later today about our current progresses, and see how well our project has done.
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« Reply #137 on: January 27, 2016, 07:22:02 pm »

Based on the current speed we will have a few more days left until the campaign is finished, and I already see volatility increasing by our campaign:

https://www.mynxt.info/charts/transactions_per_day.php (ZOOM 1M)

We dont see so many forum member signups, but we see many new NXT users, because not all new NXT users rush to the forum, they might just create a wallet for themselves, and might join later ( just like about 70% of BTC users don't even have a bitcointalk.org account):

https://www.mynxt.info/charts/number_of_accounts.php   (ZOOM 1M)

The number of transactions increases, while the volume decreases = MORE NEW USERS JOIN WITH LESS NXT TO MOVE, so we have new members!

https://www.mynxt.info/charts/transaction_volume_per_day.php (ZOOM 1M)

Assets are not being traded that much, new users don't care about assets that much, only about raw NXT.

https://www.mynxt.info/charts/trades_asset_exchange_per_day.php


So our project is beneficial to NXT, no matter what, of course it's not a big scale project yet with only 0.35 BTC spent so far, but it can get there and really revitalize NXT :)


Based on these stats ,asset TX volume:

http://nxtreporting.com/stats.php

I think Supernet is still the most anticipated asset/project.


Based on my previous quote, we are doing very fine, you can see the stats growing positive, the NR of transactions, the volume and the asset market is all going up.

We have delivered over 1500 unique interested people to NXT.org just this week:



Looks good guys, the total views being probably over 2000 i have no way of calculating that because the stats only show the last 7 days.

But it's still very impressive, the campaign is almost over, and we can discuss what to do next.
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« Reply #138 on: January 27, 2016, 08:32:46 pm »

A good slogan could be Elegant. Easy. All-in-one. Nxt, the future of money. Can we do a gif we each time one of these words next to the pictograms ?
We should drop these marketplace, coinshuffling and other. The list of features is on the website anyway. Just say that Nxt does everything.

NXT, the next generation of money. NXT, the money of the future :)


Anyway, this campaign must be somewhat successful, look at the price, its the best its been in months.
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« Reply #139 on: January 27, 2016, 10:28:24 pm »

If it was true, just buy 10 times more visitors and double market cap ! Quite a ROI ! And would also benefiti Doge ?

Marketing choices are hard when you can not accurately measure returns.

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« Reply #140 on: January 27, 2016, 11:43:14 pm »

If it was true, just buy 10 times more visitors and double market cap ! Quite a ROI ! And would also benefiti Doge ?

Marketing choices are hard when you can not accurately measure returns.

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I dont believe the entire progress was only caused by us, however we still had an impact on the progress, a pretty big one.

An impression is an impression and a click is a click. There were more than 2000 people interested in NXT who voluntarly went to check it out.

Thats better than any twitter post which even if seen by many people hardly checked out by that many people, a visual marketing method like banner ads sure have bigger efficiency.


All we need is a 2% whale ratio, out of the 2000 people 40 whales start buying NXT  and you got your results.

Bitmedia has their ad units distributed across many websites, not just faucets, but blogs and more informative pages, that are read by richer people.

Obviously the faucet users wont buy a lot of NXT, but if some traffic from a cryptoblog came in and investors that read that blog got interested about NXT, then its success.
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« Reply #141 on: January 28, 2016, 12:08:59 am »

First, I wanted to say great work here and thank you for doing it!!
Secondly, I figured this might be a good place to share (if not, sorry):
I contacted Engadget about an article or advertisement and this is the information I was given back:

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We do have marketing opportunities, like sponsored content, in which you can reach the hardcore technology fans that read Engadget everyday. You can reach your target audience through our native advertising opportunities in which your "advertorial" will be shown on article pages, newsletter and even the homepage. You can find out more about our native opportunities http://aolslides.com/v/9tyqq8.

If you are looking for an opportunity that is more complex and integrated, we have a custom content sponsorship in which you would collaborate with our internal team to create original sponsored content. We would also promote this content on Engadget. This opportunity starts at $40k.

Not sure if any options were worth any thought, but just making sure the information was available.
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« Reply #142 on: January 28, 2016, 12:09:58 am »

Think price rise is due to chinese pumpers but getting the impression you are doing great work.

Would love to give you some more funds to work with.

What btc address can I send to?

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« Reply #143 on: January 28, 2016, 02:29:12 am »

Think price rise is due to chinese pumpers but getting the impression you are doing great work.

Would love to give you some more funds to work with.

What btc address can I send to?

I`ll do an experiment, to promote this forum as well, it might be easier to track the progress that way through new signups.

The BTC address is still the same:
https://blockchain.info/address/1HZZo9sE8Papuf8Ue2WPBhMefysr9Uy3ao

Thanks, you have done a lot for NXT!
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« Reply #144 on: January 28, 2016, 03:03:24 am »

I hit it. I'll point my Hashnest S7 at the donation address for a few days.
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« Reply #145 on: January 28, 2016, 03:33:25 am »

I hit it. I'll point my Hashnest S7 at the donation address for a few days.

That's cool, NXT will really be re-vitalized, I`ll start the next campaign tomorrow, I`ll be busy later today.
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« Reply #146 on: January 28, 2016, 06:40:16 am »

I hit it. I'll point my Hashnest S7 at the donation address for a few days.

That's cool, NXT will really be re-vitalized, I`ll start the next campaign tomorrow, I`ll be busy later today.

Do you have some last statistics by countries?
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« Reply #147 on: January 28, 2016, 08:05:05 am »

Something i know well working: FB look alike audience targeting.

you upload there the forum members email address. It build a list from it you can target, but also then you can ask it to build a "look alike" from it.

they use their secret criteria but you should also add yours, like as shown some interest for altcoin...litecoin..ethereum..

Since then your segment is small, competition too and price per view is very small. Ad efficiency skyrocket. This way we had leads at click prices from other medium.

In the same with way you are thinking at using the forum as a way to get return stats, you could consider partnership with all kind of nxt websites to promote the whole young economy instead of the core principle.

They would love give you stats or plug retargeting tags for you.

Retargeting is important since these things need more than one exposure.

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« Reply #148 on: January 28, 2016, 11:29:59 am »

Think price rise is due to chinese pumpers but getting the impression you are doing great work.

Would love to give you some more funds to work with.

What btc address can I send to?

I`ll do an experiment, to promote this forum as well, it might be easier to track the progress that way through new signups.

The BTC address is still the same:
https://blockchain.info/address/1HZZo9sE8Papuf8Ue2WPBhMefysr9Uy3ao

Thanks, you have done a lot for NXT!

There you go 8)

Keep up the great work  :-*

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« Reply #149 on: January 28, 2016, 12:40:32 pm »

Think price rise is due to chinese pumpers but getting the impression you are doing great work.

Would love to give you some more funds to work with.

What btc address can I send to?

I`ll do an experiment, to promote this forum as well, it might be easier to track the progress that way through new signups.

The BTC address is still the same:
https://blockchain.info/address/1HZZo9sE8Papuf8Ue2WPBhMefysr9Uy3ao

Thanks, you have done a lot for NXT!

There you go 8)

Keep up the great work  :-*

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« Reply #150 on: January 28, 2016, 01:18:47 pm »

thanks marc!
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« Reply #151 on: January 28, 2016, 01:37:01 pm »

For those that didn't check marc donated 3 BTC... :o
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« Reply #152 on: January 28, 2016, 01:44:53 pm »

That brings our available funds to $USD 1,405.81!

Momentum, let's roll with it...I've pointed 2 S7s at our donation address; I can afford to let them run a few days that way from time to time.

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« Reply #153 on: January 28, 2016, 04:21:01 pm »

Great Marc!!  :)
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« Reply #154 on: January 28, 2016, 06:25:07 pm »

with those funds you should consider scaling up (in baby steps).

also i think the banners need coin shuffling added.
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« Reply #155 on: January 28, 2016, 07:05:02 pm »

Thanks for your appreciation guys  :)


RealBitcoin,

Do you think advertising with the Daily Decrypt would be money well spend?


Amanda said in comments below this video:

"Dash paid us $38 for 15 seconds worth of messaging in ten of our episodes. Similar sponsorships have been purchased by Nubits, B&C Exchange, Roberts & Roberts, Bitholla, Nautiluscoin, etc. You could also purchase sponsorship for a product or service you'd like to get out there. Our only qualifications are that they have to do with competing currencies, and that they be available to all. Thanks for the inquiry."
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« Reply #156 on: January 28, 2016, 08:14:48 pm »

Thanks for your appreciation guys  :)


RealBitcoin,

Do you think advertising with the Daily Decrypt would be money well spend?


Amanda said in comments below this video:

"Dash paid us $38 for 15 seconds worth of messaging in ten of our episodes. Similar sponsorships have been purchased by Nubits, B&C Exchange, Roberts & Roberts, Bitholla, Nautiluscoin, etc. You could also purchase sponsorship for a product or service you'd like to get out there. Our only qualifications are that they have to do with competing currencies, and that they be available to all. Thanks for the inquiry."

Well I`m not sure it's cost effective, they have like 1500 views on average / video lately, so thats like 15,000 impressions (not clicks).

And with an average 1-2% conversion rate, let's say it's 5% because it's an interesting video that's only 750 clicks about similar to ours, a little bit worse, and we can do it faster with banners.

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« Reply #157 on: January 28, 2016, 09:39:34 pm »

Thanks for your appreciation guys  :)


RealBitcoin,

Do you think advertising with the Daily Decrypt would be money well spend?


Amanda said in comments below this video:

"Dash paid us $38 for 15 seconds worth of messaging in ten of our episodes. Similar sponsorships have been purchased by Nubits, B&C Exchange, Roberts & Roberts, Bitholla, Nautiluscoin, etc. You could also purchase sponsorship for a product or service you'd like to get out there. Our only qualifications are that they have to do with competing currencies, and that they be available to all. Thanks for the inquiry."

Well I`m not sure it's cost effective, they have like 1500 views on average / video lately, so thats like 15,000 impressions (not clicks).

And with an average 1-2% conversion rate, let's say it's 5% because it's an interesting video that's only 750 clicks about similar to ours, a little bit worse, and we can do it faster with banners.

ok, good luck with your campaign.

Hope you succeed in attracting new blood.

Love to invest more if things go well.

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« Reply #158 on: January 28, 2016, 09:48:23 pm »


ok, good luck with your campaign.

Hope you succeed in attracting new blood.

Love to invest more if things go well.

Thanks, I can already feel NXT's success.


I`ve cloned the same ad setup as for the website, but now it's pointed at the forum



And I`ll also setup a test campaign at mellowads.com, they have some insanely cheap ad spots, with smaller traffic, but there are many of them, mostly BTC faucets. I`ll test there the cheapest ad spots, to gauge how much new members can we get to the forum with the cheapest costs, and then compare it with this new bitmedia campaign to see which one is more efficient.
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« Reply #159 on: January 28, 2016, 10:17:17 pm »

Maybe it's better to wait for the new site for Nxt.org? It's almost finished, just waiting for the last content.
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« Reply #160 on: January 28, 2016, 10:21:44 pm »

Maybe it's better to wait for the new site for Nxt.org? It's almost finished, just waiting for the last content.

Yes, sure, I was just waiting for it, after Damelon PM'ed me.

But I just think that we could test the efficiency of the forum in the meantime.
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« Reply #161 on: January 28, 2016, 10:33:37 pm »

Promote both.....not a problem. I do think that complete noobs shouldn't be pointed to the forum, but rather to nxt.org (even in it's current iffy state), but all traffic is good traffic.

On the Daily Decrypt advertising: it didn't seem to have much effect on Nautiluscoin user numbers, so maybe not that effective.

Lastly: www.nxt.org will finally go live in the next 3-4 days.....let's say Monday as a deadline.

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« Reply #162 on: January 28, 2016, 11:08:26 pm »

Promote both.....not a problem. I do think that complete noobs shouldn't be pointed to the forum, but rather to nxt.org (even in it's current iffy state), but all traffic is good traffic.

On the Daily Decrypt advertising: it didn't seem to have much effect on Nautiluscoin user numbers, so maybe not that effective.

Lastly: www.nxt.org will finally go live in the next 3-4 days.....let's say Monday as a deadline.

@marc....thanks, mate.

They are not complete noobs, they are atleast bitcoin users. About 70-80% of traffic is from crypto-savvy people. And from that point of view NXT is not that complicated to them, they can signup to the forum, download the client, introduce themselves, and start asking question like at the bitcoin forum newbie section. We need to mimic that because that is how you keep the forum active by having a constant supply of newbies asking questions and engaging in the community.
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« Reply #163 on: January 29, 2016, 12:02:39 am »

Yeah, that's the impression I got, that you'd be directing more crypto aware users to the forum, but I do like to double (and triple) check stuff.... ::)
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« Reply #164 on: January 29, 2016, 12:12:21 am »

Promote both.....not a problem. I do think that complete noobs shouldn't be pointed to the forum, but rather to nxt.org (even in it's current iffy state), but all traffic is good traffic.

On the Daily Decrypt advertising: it didn't seem to have much effect on Nautiluscoin user numbers, so maybe not that effective.

Lastly: www.nxt.org will finally go live in the next 3-4 days.....let's say Monday as a deadline.

@marc....thanks, mate.

They are not complete noobs, they are atleast bitcoin users. About 70-80% of traffic is from crypto-savvy people. And from that point of view NXT is not that complicated to them, they can signup to the forum, download the client, introduce themselves, and start asking question like at the bitcoin forum newbie section. We need to mimic that because that is how you keep the forum active by having a constant supply of newbies asking questions and engaging in the community.

Looking forward to seeing conversion rates :)

Might have to get some temp mods ;)

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« Reply #165 on: January 29, 2016, 05:58:57 am »

Pending approval, it usually takes 3-12 hours until the ad gets approved
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« Reply #166 on: January 29, 2016, 10:12:18 am »

The conversion rate on Nxt.org will be much higher than on Nxtforum.org. People need to get familiar with a crypto first before they register in a forum IMO.
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« Reply #167 on: January 29, 2016, 10:48:51 am »

The Daily Decrypt is not going to bring you clicks but will increase rates of part of the audience exposed to Amanda's message.

Not sure Google yet offers such an accurate feature. But facebook offers to target those who said they liked.
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« Reply #168 on: January 30, 2016, 02:51:39 am »

Ok the ads are running, and I`ve positioned part 2 into the mellowads account ,i`ve setup an identical campaign there too.

Part 2 will start after this one runs out. We will see now if advertising the forum is efficient or not.

If not then we will stick to the NXT.org, but I`ll wait until the new site comes up, I`m curious how it will look like :)
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« Reply #169 on: February 02, 2016, 04:26:30 pm »

Ok I`m waiting for the new website.  :)
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« Reply #170 on: February 05, 2016, 12:57:04 pm »

So any news about the new website and when it will be ready?
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« Reply #171 on: February 08, 2016, 09:52:13 pm »

Ok guys what is happening? I havent put in another advertising round since, I`m waiting for the new NXT website.

Any news or updates?
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« Reply #172 on: February 08, 2016, 10:13:58 pm »

Ok guys what is happening? I havent put in another advertising round since, I`m waiting for the new NXT website.

Any news or updates?

Sorry, but I haven't checked this thread in a while.

The status of the site is now: in last round of checking.
We are now putting the in the results of our last round on feedback and should be ready this week.
Took us longer, because we decided to add an extra round of feedback.

We should go live before end of the week :)
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« Reply #173 on: February 09, 2016, 10:51:36 pm »

Ok guys what is happening? I havent put in another advertising round since, I`m waiting for the new NXT website.

Any news or updates?

Sorry, but I haven't checked this thread in a while.

The status of the site is now: in last round of checking.
We are now putting the in the results of our last round on feedback and should be ready this week.
Took us longer, because we decided to add an extra round of feedback.

We should go live before end of the week :)

sounds good, looking forward to it!
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« Reply #174 on: February 09, 2016, 11:15:45 pm »

And we really mean it this time......the site will go live with about 80-90% of the content we want to put in, but we'll just add the rest as we go.

There will be lots of feedback and no doubt revisions to be made, so now is a good time to take it live, gather feedback from world+dog, then edit and polish until the site is at 100% (well, 99%, nothings ever perfect. :o )

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« Reply #175 on: February 10, 2016, 03:12:54 pm »

And we really mean it this time......the site will go live with about 80-90% of the content we want to put in, but we'll just add the rest as we go.

There will be lots of feedback and no doubt revisions to be made, so now is a good time to take it live, gather feedback from world+dog, then edit and polish until the site is at 100% (well, 99%, nothings ever perfect. :o )

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« Reply #176 on: February 13, 2016, 12:19:01 pm »

The new site nxt.org is UP.

Feel free to promote the hell out of it :)
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« Reply #177 on: February 13, 2016, 12:35:45 pm »

Woohoo!

Who is able to put a new post on Nxt's Facebook?
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« Reply #178 on: February 14, 2016, 12:44:34 am »

The new site nxt.org is UP.

Feel free to promote the hell out of it :)

Ok let's start with 0.3 BTC as a warm up. The site looks very cool and dinamic, it will amaze more people and i think many will join us.


This is the new setup, I think we should only focus on core audience from the main bitcoin countries: USA,UK,CA,AU,etc...
It is more cost effective that way as they make up the core users of bitcoin too.



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« Reply #179 on: February 14, 2016, 09:31:38 am »

Who is The Facebook moderator? It is not up to date to Twitter messages. Also no events added for March.
I have added the messages in visitors zone.
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« Reply #180 on: February 14, 2016, 10:23:44 am »

The client download is the equivalent of a sale in classical direct marketing.
The ultimate conversion metric is a click on one of the 3 buttons here : http://nxt.org/download/

You could have some onclick tracker on them. Do you ?

This would allow to better compare ad sources than Mailchimp subscribes which are an easy good metric but more distant to the ultimate goal.
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« Reply #181 on: February 14, 2016, 02:25:40 pm »

The client download is the equivalent of a sale in classical direct marketing.
The ultimate conversion metric is a click on one of the 3 buttons here : http://nxt.org/download/

You could have some onclick tracker on them. Do you ?

This would allow to better compare ad sources than Mailchimp subscribes which are an easy good metric but more distant to the ultimate goal.

Yes it would be nice to see those stats.
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« Reply #182 on: February 17, 2016, 08:11:54 am »

This will take a lot of time to run out:



We also got a 0.06 btc bonus on that deposit. It is good but its very slow.

Any ideas what to do in the meantime?
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« Reply #183 on: February 17, 2016, 08:29:08 am »

i have recently revived my bitcointalk account and i saw all those signature campaigns that are running. i wouldn't want to organize something paid with spam users, but most of us have a bitcointalk account. maybe we could create something pretty and get nxt some more exposure over there without opening threads and 'shilling' for nxt?

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« Reply #184 on: February 18, 2016, 05:59:19 am »

i have recently revived my bitcointalk account and i saw all those signature campaigns that are running. i wouldn't want to organize something paid with spam users, but most of us have a bitcointalk account. maybe we could create something pretty and get nxt some more exposure over there without opening threads and 'shilling' for nxt?

A SIG campaign for NXT? Sure why not.

But it wont be me organizing it, i`m very busy these days. However we could use the funds to pay for it.

We only need to hire a campaign manager. Anybody up for it?
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« Reply #185 on: February 18, 2016, 08:13:05 am »

i don't want to pay anyone. my idea was to use the nxt community and get advertising for free. we all have an account there.
ill see if i can get this started next week.
to manage a campaign over at bitcointalk and bother with shill and spam users would be a nightmare task and i wouldn't want to do that.
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« Reply #186 on: February 18, 2016, 01:38:21 pm »

i don't want to pay anyone. my idea was to use the nxt community and get advertising for free. we all have an account there.
ill see if i can get this started next week.
to manage a campaign over at bitcointalk and bother with shill and spam users would be a nightmare task and i wouldn't want to do that.

I wear an NXT avatar already over there, i would wear signature too, but i`m not posting so much these days so i hope others will.
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« Reply #187 on: February 18, 2016, 05:14:31 pm »

Just want to mention that the campaign helps.
At the moment 30% of referrals come from your account, just above CMC clicks :)

We are now setting up proper tags to be able to track funneling, but at the moment your campaign is good for 50-125 visits per day.
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« Reply #188 on: February 19, 2016, 09:04:39 am »

Just want to mention that the campaign helps.
At the moment 30% of referrals come from your account, just above CMC clicks :)

We are now setting up proper tags to be able to track funneling, but at the moment your campaign is good for 50-125 visits per day.

Of course but it's slow, it will take a while until it's finished. I`ve expanded the visitor countries a bit more based on already established peerexplorer nodes.



I`m still hesitant, maybe we should allow russian traffic, there are a lot of real users from there not just bots, I`ve analyzed 30 major bitcoin websites's traffic and it looks like those are most likely real users based on bounce rate.

So i think eastern europe should be ok for now but with 1 visit /IP /day limit just to make sure.
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« Reply #189 on: February 19, 2016, 09:11:56 am »

Just want to mention that the campaign helps.
At the moment 30% of referrals come from your account, just above CMC clicks :)

We are now setting up proper tags to be able to track funneling, but at the moment your campaign is good for 50-125 visits per day.

Best tracking system would be to track the number of downloads of the clients (win+mac+linux), thats the only thing that matters really.

Or the exit links towards an online wallet like mynxt.info.



Also what do you think about setting up a NXT sig campaign on bitcointalk?

I have to ask a few campaign managers about the conversion rates and costs and details, but just in concept what do you think of the idea?
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« Reply #190 on: February 19, 2016, 03:19:36 pm »

Just want to mention that the campaign helps.
At the moment 30% of referrals come from your account, just above CMC clicks :)

We are now setting up proper tags to be able to track funneling, but at the moment your campaign is good for 50-125 visits per day.

Best tracking system would be to track the number of downloads of the clients (win+mac+linux), thats the only thing that matters really.

Or the exit links towards an online wallet like mynxt.info.



Also what do you think about setting up a NXT sig campaign on bitcointalk?

I have to ask a few campaign managers about the conversion rates and costs and details, but just in concept what do you think of the idea?

For tracking I am setting up a Google Tag system on the downloads and possibly some exit links.
I also want to track how our funnels to the different groups work and where they go.
Working with Farla on setting those up.

For bitcointalk: needs to be carefully crafted.
The sigs should just invite and in no way go "NXT is awesomest of all!", because that will just backfire.
I don't expect too much traction there, as it's a fanboy laden place.
But if the price is good: worth a shot.  :)
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« Reply #191 on: February 20, 2016, 07:23:04 am »


For bitcointalk: needs to be carefully crafted.
The sigs should just invite and in no way go "NXT is awesomest of all!", because that will just backfire.
I don't expect too much traction there, as it's a fanboy laden place.
But if the price is good: worth a shot.  :)

I`ve asked around a few campaign managers and it seems pretty reasonable on their pair.

They will police the wearers, to not cheat, one guy said he only asks double price for him wearing a signature and no extra fee for management, and thats all on their part and one guy would design the signatures too, he is a graphic designed and could craft nice signatures for higher up members.

Now the tricky question is what is the conversion rate, and nobody answered that question, so I will test this myself before going into this, i`ve started wearing a ref link signature, and i will wear it for a week or so and test how many refs i get.

I have like 3600 posts, i want to see what is the post/click conversion rate first.
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« Reply #193 on: February 20, 2016, 03:53:27 pm »

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« Reply #194 on: February 20, 2016, 04:49:24 pm »

what about here?
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency

you want to target new developers interested in  crypto, not speculators.
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« Reply #195 on: February 20, 2016, 04:51:19 pm »

you want to target new developers interested in  crypto

where do you find these in good numbers?
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« Reply #196 on: February 20, 2016, 06:19:44 pm »

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/46qq9v/convince_me_not_to_give_up/
Bitcoin maximalists on the verge of giving up after today's turn of events.
Ramp up your advertising campaign, guys. Get them while they are young, hook them up :)
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« Reply #197 on: February 20, 2016, 11:00:29 pm »

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/46qq9v/convince_me_not_to_give_up/
Bitcoin maximalists on the verge of giving up after today's turn of events.
Ramp up your advertising campaign, guys. Get them while they are young, hook them up :)

WOW indeed.

It seems many of these bitcoiners are opening up to altcoins but go to other coins, like monero (which is also POW!?)

Maybe the campaign can focus on POS: "NXT, the leading POS coin where power is with the coinholders!


RealBitcoin, how is it going with the funds?

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« Reply #198 on: February 21, 2016, 07:42:48 am »


WOW indeed.

It seems many of these bitcoiners are opening up to altcoins but go to other coins, like monero (which is also POW!?)

Maybe the campaign can focus on POS: "NXT, the leading POS coin where power is with the coinholders!


RealBitcoin, how is it going with the funds?

It's still going, we have 0.08 BTC left in the advertising account, and delivered more than 2600 clicks the past 7 days.

Since the bid price is 10k satoshi, the total nr of clicks for this campaign is 3600, of which 3000 was from the deposited 0.3 BTC and 600 as a bonus from the site.

It's a pretty good deal, considering it's 3-3.5 million impressions.

After the round ends I`ll analyze how much it has impacted the community, now that Damelon will setup a tracking system for downloads, it will be very easy to see the progress.

The rest of the money is waiting:
https://blockchain.info/address/1HZZo9sE8Papuf8Ue2WPBhMefysr9Uy3ao
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« Reply #199 on: February 21, 2016, 09:39:12 am »

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/46qq9v/convince_me_not_to_give_up/
Bitcoin maximalists on the verge of giving up after today's turn of events.
Ramp up your advertising campaign, guys. Get them while they are young, hook them up :)

WOW indeed.

It seems many of these bitcoiners are opening up to altcoins but go to other coins, like monero (which is also POW!?)

Maybe the campaign can focus on POS: "NXT, the leading POS coin where power is with the coinholders!


RealBitcoin, how is it going with the funds?
Good suggestion !
Systematic trials and sharp measures of trial effects are the only way to find a significant breakthrough in marketing, apart from pure luck.
Good ideas like to his one should always be experimented.

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« Reply #200 on: February 21, 2016, 12:58:17 pm »


It's still going, we have 0.08 BTC left in the advertising account, and delivered more than 2600 clicks the past 7 days.

Since the bid price is 10k satoshi, the total nr of clicks for this campaign is 3600, of which 3000 was from the deposited 0.3 BTC and 600 as a bonus from the site.

It's a pretty good deal, considering it's 3-3.5 million impressions.

After the round ends I`ll analyze how much it has impacted the community, now that Damelon will setup a tracking system for downloads, it will be very easy to see the progress.

The rest of the money is waiting:
https://blockchain.info/address/1HZZo9sE8Papuf8Ue2WPBhMefysr9Uy3ao

Great work. I also like very much how careful you are with the money.  :)

Also thanks Damelon for making it better trackable.  8)

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« Reply #201 on: February 22, 2016, 09:08:12 am »


It's still going, we have 0.08 BTC left in the advertising account, and delivered more than 2600 clicks the past 7 days.

Since the bid price is 10k satoshi, the total nr of clicks for this campaign is 3600, of which 3000 was from the deposited 0.3 BTC and 600 as a bonus from the site.

It's a pretty good deal, considering it's 3-3.5 million impressions.

After the round ends I`ll analyze how much it has impacted the community, now that Damelon will setup a tracking system for downloads, it will be very easy to see the progress.

The rest of the money is waiting:
https://blockchain.info/address/1HZZo9sE8Papuf8Ue2WPBhMefysr9Uy3ao

Great work. I also like very much how careful you are with the money.  :)

Also thanks Damelon for making it better trackable.  8)

Thanks, nxt will have it's turn now to shine again.
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« Reply #202 on: February 22, 2016, 12:14:53 pm »

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« Reply #203 on: February 22, 2016, 02:19:08 pm »

I added my tipping jar to the OP if anybody wants to donate to me for my work, you are welcome.

BTC: 1FUo8hc26rSoD2p4u66MZ2rhiib9DiTP9o
NXT: NXT-PGEN-X5JV-ATFW-366ZB
NXT pubkey: 979079ec130368bfdfecc00e1a2a37420f14af75dfa0e399c6323af417de4d31

If you are going to donate to me ,you should also donate to https://nxtforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=6805  , he created the nice banners for the campaign.

Thanks!

Tipped  8)

Thanks for your great work.

phideas, love to tip you some btc too, you have an address?

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« Reply #204 on: February 22, 2016, 09:24:20 pm »


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Tipped  8)

Thanks for your great work.

phideas, love to tip you some btc too, you have an address?
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« Reply #205 on: February 22, 2016, 10:10:33 pm »

Hey Mark!

Thank you! Much appreciate!
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There you go phideas :)

Awesome banners, thanks man 8)

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« Reply #206 on: February 22, 2016, 10:33:57 pm »

Thanks for the tips! :)

The round of the campaign is probably over tomorrow, then I will analyze how much we progressed in this round.

On first look it seems like transaction speed is picking up, that is good. I hope Damelon's link tracker will be ready soon, it will be better with raw statistics.

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« Reply #207 on: February 23, 2016, 03:26:05 pm »

Ok folks there is a 62.15% correlation between this campaign delivered clicks and the transaction amount

https://www.mynxt.info/charts/transactions_per_day.php





Here is in detail:  http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=76886125986629597861


So we have generated 62% of the changes in the transactions in the last days since feb 14.

It is very good, i didnt thought we would have so big impact in NXT, but i still dont like that so few people sign up to the forum.

The forum should have pageview stats public also, because I dont think many people create accounts, most of them just read the stuff on the forum without account.



This means that with 0.3 BTC and the current config of the campaign we can have this much impact on the TX count.

There is also a -54% correlation meaning that the transaction size decreases, though not because of us, but because it would also normally decrease, yet because of the transaction count increases, this means that the  TRANSACTION SIZE/ COUNT ratio is increased.

This means that there are more smaller transactions going on, indicating that many newbies bought smaller amounts of NXT probably



And finally the account numbers are also rising:

https://www.mynxt.info/charts/number_of_accounts.php

But this is only their internal NXT account, not all the new wallets so this data is irrelevant for us.



To sum up, we are going the right way
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« Reply #208 on: February 24, 2016, 11:24:48 am »

Regarding the sig campaign, we have to forget about that, it's very inefficient.

I wear a signature to test out how many refs do I get, and i got only 6 in 5 days.


So if we go with a bare minimum 0.5% conversion rate, that means that it was at most 1200 clicks.

So that means that in best case scenario, which is unlikely,my 3739 posts only generate 1200 clicks.

Now let's assume only senior members join, because small signatures are hard to see, then you have to pay 0.00030 BTC / post for a senior member, that would cost us 1.1217 Bitcoins.

With banner ads, for 1.1217 bitcoin we get 11,217 clicks.


Yes so the banner ad is 10x more efficient that signature campaign. And this is the best case scenario I assumed, if its worse than that, then its even worse.
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« Reply #209 on: February 24, 2016, 12:03:04 pm »

Ok folks there is a 62.15% correlation between this campaign delivered clicks and the transaction amount
...
So we have generated 62% of the changes in the transactions in the last days since feb 14.
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Where does these correlation numbers come from ? 62% change in transaction volume is not 62% corelation between some trafic signal and transaction signal. Is that what you mean ?

From what I see in the stats, I would not bet on the fact there is correlation : natural random variations seem to me to be of the same magnitude.

From experience, I know you find things when you observe drastic changes. That's the goal of full tracking, that can not be done here except on the output signal : click on download client button.
With full tracking, you look at the output per ad source, which means that you have no noise in your output because before your ad is on the ad source effect was zero.

That's what I was refering to here : https://nxtforum.org/nxt-promotion/nxt-revitalization-plan/msg209476/#msg209476

For me a "tracker" is not a "counter", Yes it counts but gives results per ad source component.
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« Reply #210 on: February 24, 2016, 06:27:52 pm »


Where does these correlation numbers come from ? 62% change in transaction volume is not 62% corelation between some trafic signal and transaction signal. Is that what you mean ?

From what I see in the stats, I would not bet on the fact there is correlation : natural random variations seem to me to be of the same magnitude.

From experience, I know you find things when you observe drastic changes. That's the goal of full tracking, that can not be done here except on the output signal : click on download client button.
With full tracking, you look at the output per ad source, which means that you have no noise in your output because before your ad is on the ad source effect was zero.

That's what I was refering to here : https://nxtforum.org/nxt-promotion/nxt-revitalization-plan/msg209476/#msg209476

For me a "tracker" is not a "counter", Yes it counts but gives results per ad source component.

A person can download the client 100 times, that wont be accurate either. Or maybe he just uses online wallet and doesnt download the client.

You need to see the effects of the campaign in the macro scale too. 3000+ viewers plus the ones from the earlier rounds, thats a tons of people.

If only a quarter of them buys 1000 NXT each that is still a 750,000 NXT volume, which has to show up in the charts.


Of course that is only 13 BTC, which is too tiny to be seen in the NXT market cap, but it can be detected in the transaction count chart.
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« Reply #211 on: February 25, 2016, 06:59:37 pm »

Time for ROUND 7.

Time to scale up the campaign so I added half to mellow ads, I saw very cheap ad spaces there with good CTR.
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« Reply #212 on: February 27, 2016, 08:53:52 pm »

NXT AE is mentioned a few times among others: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGAAcxz2ln4
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« Reply #213 on: February 29, 2016, 04:01:26 am »

NXT AE is mentioned a few times among others: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGAAcxz2ln4

Thanks, I liked the episode, very interesting point of view and ideas he is talking about.

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« Reply #214 on: February 29, 2016, 07:33:50 pm »

The current campaign is over, it was pretty good compared to the previous one, and it had a 1 day delay between clicks and transaction volume.

And it only achieved a 72.72% correlation that way:

date      clicks         change        tx volume   change          shifted change
FEB25   36   3.5835189385   1386   0.1267517056   0
FEB26   2912   4.3930764709   1372   -0.0101523715   0.1267517056
FEB27   2882   -0.0103556328   1359   -0.0095203941   -0.0101523715
FEB28   1700   -0.5278562465   1650   0.1940261527   -0.0095203941

I shifted the volume by 1 day after the clicks ,and we had a 72% correlation that way so even though, the day to day comparison was poor.

Looks like people used NXT 1 day after they clicked the ad, maybe they needed 1 day to read up and learn abotu it.



I also found out that mellowads is 13% more efficient than bitmedia. Its that much cheaper, and also the ads are distributed on all spots of a webpage, while in bitmedia we only got the bottom of the page for 0.0001 BTC CPC.

So we will use mellowads from now on, plus it also has many blogs and news sites in it's list, not just faucets so we will get quality users too not only faucet workers.
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« Reply #215 on: February 29, 2016, 07:57:39 pm »

Round 8: Only mellow ads now.

The cpc is variable here, not like in bitmedia with 0.0001 CPC, but it's much more efficient, as I described above.

It's also a newcomer, bitmedia is older a bit to my knowledge and it has grown pretty fast, I remember using a few months ago advertising my ref links there and it wasnt that big back then, now it has hundreds of bitcoin and cryptosites listed here.

To my current knowledge its the best ad network there is for crypo currencies, so we definitely will use it from now on, unfortunately bitmedia has become sloppy and slow to deliver our campaign, maybe it was my filters but even still, i think their network traffic has shrunk in the past 2 weeks.

It's just better if we use mellowads from now on, now lets see how it works out!
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« Reply #216 on: March 01, 2016, 07:43:44 pm »

Transaction is not confirming, its a real big mess , the bitcoin system is broken.

Meanwhile I definitely proven that the sig campaign is a mess, I have wore a ref signature over bitcointalk for weeks now, and barely got any refs, yes it's not worth it folks.

Better just use CPC campaigns like we already do, sig campaign is a mess too.
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« Reply #217 on: March 02, 2016, 10:06:48 pm »

It's a real big mess now with slow TX around BTC, I had to resend the TX, and just now checked it and it arrived. Now we have an extra edge of promoting NXT due to BTC having problems.

Round 8 starts.
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« Reply #218 on: March 03, 2016, 06:09:59 am »

It's a real big mess now with slow TX around BTC, I had to resend the TX, and just now checked it and it arrived. Now we have an extra edge of promoting NXT due to BTC having problems.

Round 8 starts.

lol and now read this!

The devs are trying to blame it on bitcoin classic!

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/2/11146584/bitcoin-core-classic-debate-transaction-limit-crisis

Bitcoin will fail, while...
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« Reply #219 on: March 04, 2016, 12:44:17 am »


lol and now read this!

The devs are trying to blame it on bitcoin classic!

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/2/11146584/bitcoin-core-classic-debate-transaction-limit-crisis

Bitcoin will fail, while...

Nah it's ok it's just shills. But in the meantime we can use this opportunity for NXT promotion.

The current campaign is set to last 5 days and ends on the 7th. We will see how much progress we will make.

Now it looks like that more people signup on this forum as well.
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« Reply #220 on: March 04, 2016, 01:07:32 am »

I see now the 1nd transaction had just arrived, I will add that to the campaign as well.

I thought that it will never arrive thats why i sent the 2nd one, becuase it was in limbo for 2 days and it should have dropped out of mempool, but looks like it did. Damnit the bitcoin network is crazy now.


Well then I will cancel the current campaign, i will get full refunded the remaining amount, already 2 days passed so the remaining will be refunded. And then put back the campaign again with the other bitcoins together.

If I just put another campaign next to the current one, then we will get the same visitors twice, which is not good, so I have to cancel the current one and then re-put it back.

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« Reply #221 on: March 04, 2016, 06:31:27 am »


lol and now read this!

The devs are trying to blame it on bitcoin classic!

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/2/11146584/bitcoin-core-classic-debate-transaction-limit-crisis

Bitcoin will fail, while...

Nah it's ok it's just shills. But in the meantime we can use this opportunity for NXT promotion.

The current campaign is set to last 5 days and ends on the 7th. We will see how much progress we will make.

Now it looks like that more people signup on this forum as well.

thats great news!
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« Reply #222 on: March 08, 2016, 12:13:08 pm »

The campaign has ended, i`m posting here the analysis soon.

I was also thinking about a new way of promotion for NXT, but i need to calculate it first.

Updates soon.
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« Reply #223 on: March 08, 2016, 12:49:38 pm »

Thnx!!
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« Reply #224 on: March 08, 2016, 07:04:00 pm »

I`ve started a twitter campaign, I want to see how efficient it is, I bet it's much more efficient:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392007.0

If you have any suggestions or comments post them here.
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« Reply #225 on: March 08, 2016, 09:14:03 pm »

It is getting a lot of users, I need suggestions if there is any other NXT related website good for promotion.

And by this I mean NXT websites that have the potential to convert non-NXT users into NXT users.


Any suggestion or tips are welcome!
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« Reply #226 on: March 08, 2016, 09:50:43 pm »

It is getting a lot of users, I need suggestions if there is any other NXT related website good for promotion.

And by this I mean NXT websites that have the potential to convert non-NXT users into NXT users.


Any suggestion or tips are welcome!

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« Reply #227 on: March 08, 2016, 11:07:47 pm »

I`ve started a twitter campaign, I want to see how efficient it is, I bet it's much more efficient:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392007.0

If you have any suggestions or comments post them here.

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« Reply #228 on: March 08, 2016, 11:52:36 pm »

I`ve started a twitter campaign, I want to see how efficient it is, I bet it's much more efficient:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392007.0

If you have any suggestions or comments post them here.

Tweeted!! https://twitter.com/MagicNxt/status/707356166142205953  ;)
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« Reply #229 on: March 09, 2016, 10:01:42 am »

It is getting a lot of users, I need suggestions if there is any other NXT related website good for promotion.

And by this I mean NXT websites that have the potential to convert non-NXT users into NXT users.


Any suggestion or tips are welcome!

nxter.org

Perfect, I`m composing a tweet now,  we need to explore the news oriented hashtags too, and that site is perfect for it.

Its a NXT perfect newsletter.



DONE:

Code: [Select]
#nxter is an exciting and informative newsletter, keeping you updated about #NXT
http://nxter.org

#cryptonews #altcoinnews
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« Reply #230 on: March 09, 2016, 10:41:17 am »

I dont know what is the clickthrough rate of twitter tweets, but the payout rates were thought of by the following logic:

Banner CPC cost 10,000 satoshi/ click, on average, best rate is on mellow ad with 8000-9000 satoshi /click.



If 1 twitter user has X followers, I assume the normal impression/click ratio applies to it, which is 1% to be conservative.

Therefore I assume if somebody has like 1000 followers that means a 1% CTR, which is 10 clicks.

Therefore, that costs us a   10,000 satoshi / click normally, which would be 100,000 satoshi.


Well, with the twitter campaign I pay 2000 satoshi /click, which means that it's 80% cheaper, if the 1% hypothesis is correct.

So for example 10,000 real followers 1% CTR gets 0.002 btc.

Now if it's say 0.5%, then it's 40% cheaper.

I am not sure how efficient twitter is, but it can't be that bad, given that we only consider real followers and not bots, so in worst case scenario we still need to get a 0.5% conversion rate.

And then it saved us 40% cost, not to mention we get to popularize hashtags, and with some luck we could go viral from the network effect, who knows.

So I am now confident that this marketing method is the best we have yet.

Lemme hear your opinions.
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« Reply #231 on: March 09, 2016, 08:15:35 pm »

We are getting a lot of heavyweight exposure:

https://twitter.com/Bluepois0nxx_/status/707311651914170368

https://twitter.com/Bluepois0nxx_/status/707311476885823490


But it's also costing us, therefore it`ve lowered the payout rate to 12 satoshi / real follower.
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« Reply #232 on: March 10, 2016, 06:28:32 am »

Bots with bot followers tweeting for bots... meh.
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« Reply #233 on: March 10, 2016, 09:18:18 am »

Bots with bot followers tweeting for bots... meh.

I analysed their twitter accounts, it had a high % of real followers. This one is legit.

https://foller.me/bluepois0nxx_

http://www.tweetstats.com/graphs/bluepois0nxx_

https://www.twitteraudit.com/Bluepois0nxx_
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« Reply #234 on: March 10, 2016, 10:57:15 am »

Great job you are doing!
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« Reply #235 on: March 10, 2016, 01:21:08 pm »

Great job you are doing!

Thanks, now i paused the campaign and i await on Damelon to send me some info about the progress.

We should also wait 3-4 days if we see any significant activity increase around here.
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« Reply #236 on: March 10, 2016, 06:17:19 pm »

Great job you are doing!

Thanks, now i paused the campaign and i await on Damelon to send me some info about the progress.

We should also wait 3-4 days if we see any significant activity increase around here.

Hope I was in time! I have access to the Google Analytics of Nxt.org and can it lookup for you.
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« Reply #237 on: March 12, 2016, 06:37:17 pm »

Great job you are doing!

Thanks, now i paused the campaign and i await on Damelon to send me some info about the progress.

We should also wait 3-4 days if we see any significant activity increase around here.

Hope I was in time! I have access to the Google Analytics of Nxt.org and can it lookup for you.

Cool, so what did you found. Can I have access to the info?
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« Reply #238 on: March 13, 2016, 02:10:12 pm »

Great job you are doing!

Thanks, now i paused the campaign and i await on Damelon to send me some info about the progress.

We should also wait 3-4 days if we see any significant activity increase around here.

Hope I was in time! I have access to the Google Analytics of Nxt.org and can it lookup for you.

Cool, so what did you found. Can I have access to the info?

You can better ask Damelon for this data.
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« Reply #239 on: March 13, 2016, 11:23:26 pm »


You can better ask Damelon for this data.

Oh, i thought you made the website. Ok I will PM him but he doesnt respond very fast nowadays.
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« Reply #240 on: March 14, 2016, 10:37:07 am »


You can better ask Damelon for this data.

Oh, i thought you made the website. Ok I will PM him but he doesnt respond very fast nowadays.

Correct, I created the website. But the Google Analytics are in control of the Nxt Foundation. I don't know if I am allowed to share this publicly. Please ask Damelon or Evildave.
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« Reply #241 on: March 14, 2016, 12:37:37 pm »

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Want to get some reddit spambots? :D

What do you mean by that?
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« Reply #243 on: March 15, 2016, 08:49:06 pm »


You can better ask Damelon for this data.

Oh, i thought you made the website. Ok I will PM him but he doesnt respond very fast nowadays.

Correct, I created the website. But the Google Analytics are in control of the Nxt Foundation. I don't know if I am allowed to share this publicly. Please ask Damelon or Evildave.

I have shared some basic analytics with Realbitcoin.

Am in the process of fine tuning them, and can then give some more accurate analytics. :)
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« Reply #244 on: March 20, 2016, 04:21:40 am »

Ok i`m waiting for a better release of a fixed lightweight wallet. I hope it comes out soon.

The current supernet is pretty broken, i hope it gets fixed fast.
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« Reply #245 on: April 08, 2016, 03:30:28 pm »

How's it going RealBitcoin, are you able to market?

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« Reply #246 on: April 09, 2016, 03:51:29 pm »

How's it going RealBitcoin, are you able to market?

I`m waiting for the next supernet, one that is fixed, because i dont think its good to market it when all lightweight wallets are broken.

The last big uppgrade made all lightweight wallets and online ones broken, and newbies probably dont like to download blockchains.
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« Reply #247 on: April 22, 2016, 10:43:05 am »

Ok i will get back to promote NXT, looks like its functional now.

Now it needs our support to promote it, so everyone else should promote it too!
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« Reply #248 on: April 26, 2016, 04:07:38 am »

Ok I will get to it today, i was pretty busy until now.

Seems like NXT can get some trend now that the ETH bubble is collapsing.
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« Reply #249 on: May 05, 2016, 07:13:40 pm »

Ok time to really restart this,  i was a bit busy last week but now i got time.
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« Reply #250 on: May 05, 2016, 10:32:46 pm »

Good idea......not sure about the ETH collapse just yet, but more advertising for Nxt will be good. ;)
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« Reply #251 on: May 07, 2016, 09:23:23 pm »

Good idea......not sure about the ETH collapse just yet, but more advertising for Nxt will be good. ;)

Yes, i am thinking now of ways to amplify the marketing effects of it, but it will restart the banner campaign soon.

It would be great if the NXT promotion would be synced with the ETH collapse, that would give us a great timing, but that would take too much time so I will just start promoting it again.
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« Reply #252 on: May 10, 2016, 11:00:05 am »

Ok, time to really start now, no more delays. I was just waiting for ETH to collapse but we cannot wait for that, we need to spearhead that and start promoting now.

I have moved the bitcoins from blockchain.info because I`m concerned about their new updates and some posts on bitcointalk and reddit suggested that they are reckless with their updates and that exposes the bitcoin to risk, so I moved it to a secured electrum wallet which i believe now is the most secure given that online wallets cant really be trusted in bitcoin.

I will also add a NXT donation address so that people can donate with NXT too, since mellowads has shapeshift button so its easy to deposit there with altcoins.

So we will start again with 0.1 BTC now.
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« Reply #253 on: May 12, 2016, 12:42:32 pm »

Ok folks I`ve added a NXT donation address for the project, so that people can donate now with NXT. Its pretty easy to deposit in the advertising account, because they have shapeshift button, so all donation can be collected in basically any coins.

The current campaign that is running is set to run for 10 days, since I need a test sample again to see how the CPC conversion rate works, in the current altcoin enviroment.

I was also thinking about amplifying the marketing power of the impressions, so i got a few more ideas down the road, stay tuned!
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« Reply #254 on: May 15, 2016, 07:05:21 am »

You can bid on banner slots on bitcointalk:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1472756.msg0
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« Reply #255 on: May 15, 2016, 02:25:58 pm »

You can bid on banner slots on bitcointalk:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1472756.msg0

It's a bit overpriced.

Average bids are 1-1.1 BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats

Impressions are like:
881743  and  that is not unique so let's assume the 134813 logged in users are unique impressions to have a conservative estimation.

Now that means that with a conservative 1% conversion rate that is 1,348.13 clicks.

So the CPC cost for 1.1 BTC you get 1,348.13 clicks, that means that 0.00081595 BTC/ click.

That is way above average cost, of course this is conservative estimation, and even if we count the logged in users, it discounts the multiple account users, the DDOS-er troll accounts and others.

So I`m not sure how efficient it is but I know that it's not cost -effective, and bitcointalk advertising is not necessarly a magic marketing site.



Also given the fact that everyone has big shiny signatures, not many people click on those banner ads. So the CTR percent might even be lower than 1%.

These are just assumptions, but my marketing sense tells me that its not an efficient marketing model.
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« Reply #256 on: May 15, 2016, 03:34:25 pm »

You can bid on banner slots on bitcointalk:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1472756.msg0

It's a bit overpriced.

Average bids are 1-1.1 BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats

Impressions are like:
881743  and  that is not unique so let's assume the 134813 logged in users are unique impressions to have a conservative estimation.

Now that means that with a conservative 1% conversion rate that is 1,348.13 clicks.

So the CPC cost for 1.1 BTC you get 1,348.13 clicks, that means that 0.00081595 BTC/ click.

That is way above average cost, of course this is conservative estimation, and even if we count the logged in users, it discounts the multiple account users, the DDOS-er troll accounts and others.

So I`m not sure how efficient it is but I know that it's not cost -effective, and bitcointalk advertising is not necessarly a magic marketing site.



Also given the fact that everyone has big shiny signatures, not many people click on those banner ads. So the CTR percent might even be lower than 1%.

These are just assumptions, but my marketing sense tells me that its not an efficient marketing model.

Thank you for taking the time for an evaluation!
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« Reply #257 on: May 16, 2016, 07:48:52 pm »

Moved the funds into NXT, i believe this is an NXT project after all so we will keep the money in NXT instead of BTC.

It will be easier to donate this way NXT only. So the 1.84 remaining BTC has been exchanged into NXT at fair market price via shapeshift.



Also regarding the campaign, i`ll compile the progress soon, it has been running now for a few days so i`m curious how it progressed.
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« Reply #258 on: May 18, 2016, 04:34:03 pm »

It can hardly get better than this for the costs:



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« Reply #259 on: May 18, 2016, 05:39:28 pm »

Nice work, RB. ;D
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« Reply #260 on: May 18, 2016, 08:28:33 pm »

Nice Job!
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« Reply #261 on: May 19, 2016, 06:33:31 am »

Nice work 3% increase in marketcap! ;D
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« Reply #262 on: May 19, 2016, 08:32:31 am »

Great!!  :o
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« Reply #263 on: May 19, 2016, 08:46:14 am »

Nice stat, Great Job Bro!!  :) 8)

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« Reply #264 on: June 01, 2016, 10:10:21 am »

Here is the full summary of the last campaign, now we shall start the next one for 0.3 BTC



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« Reply #265 on: June 01, 2016, 10:23:33 am »

Started the next campaign, i just saw that the ad prices have lowered on the CPM campaign so we will get even more clicks cumulatively.

Last campaign was 0.1 so now we will get 3x more views + ~20% due to price lowering. So it should have big impact now on NXT!
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« Reply #266 on: June 07, 2016, 04:14:25 pm »

dear everyone, im so confuse,
i known NXT from youtube video of Marc De Mesel, i wuld like to love NXT, if i understood what it is

1. could anyone enlighten me, what is the difference between NXT and etherium, also LISK
(NXT and LISK both using java, but all could easy into programming specially etherium)

2. english is not my native language, blockchain and coinbase is very easy to use, but NXT dashboard is confusing, i dont even know what all those feature for, and how to use it
i cant even decide how to accept NXT, also how to send the money both reveal/anonymous , i think people need dummy tutorial on how to use every feature, and please simplify things.. to many text and confusing code or icon makes my brain overheat

3. is it save to buy NXT now, was told there is going to be fork and potentially ruin the beauty of the cripto (even i dont know how to use it)


please teach me..
so i know what to tell to all my friends about NXT (i often use bitcoin,, A LOT, and cannot understand how to use NXT, and all its feature)
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« Reply #267 on: June 07, 2016, 04:29:24 pm »

dear everyone, im so confuse,
i known NXT from youtube video of Marc De Mesel, i wuld like to love NXT, if i understood what it is

1. could anyone enlighten me, what is the difference between NXT and etherium, also LISK
(NXT and LISK both using java, but all could easy into programming specially etherium)

2. english is not my native language, blockchain and coinbase is very easy to use, but NXT dashboard is confusing, i dont even know what all those feature for, and how to use it
i cant even decide how to accept NXT, also how to send the money both reveal/anonymous , i think people need dummy tutorial on how to use every feature, and please simplify things.. to many text and confusing code or icon makes my brain overheat

3. is it save to buy NXT now, was told there is going to be fork and potentially ruin the beauty of the cripto (even i dont know how to use it)


please teach me..
so i know what to tell to all my friends about NXT (i often use bitcoin,, A LOT, and cannot understand how to use NXT, and all its feature)

to get started you can use a web wallet to send/receive NXT just like you use blockchain.info for Bitcoin,
https://wallet.mynxt.info

for advanced features you need to run the standard or lite client, and yes it can be tricky for new users.
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« Reply #268 on: June 07, 2016, 07:37:44 pm »

1. could anyone enlighten me, what is the difference between NXT and etherium, also LISK
(NXT and LISK both using java, but all could easy into programming specially etherium)

NXT is a blockchain used for development of decentralized applications. Ethereum is the same thing but it uses a different approach they call "smart contracts". Lisk is mainly a marketing attempt to leverage the success of Ethereum in order to make a lot of money for the creator.

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3. is it save to buy NXT now, was told there is going to be fork and potentially ruin the beauty of the cripto (even i dont know how to use it)

Sure, it's a very good time to buy NXT now since it also grants you the right to receive NXT 2.0 tokens soon.
NXT 2.0 does not ruin anything, it makes NXT more usable and even more beautiful !
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« Reply #269 on: June 13, 2016, 01:57:31 pm »


Sure, it's a very good time to buy NXT now since it also grants you the right to receive NXT 2.0 tokens soon.
NXT 2.0 does not ruin anything, it makes NXT more usable and even more beautiful !

may i know when will the NXT 2.0 release, was thinking to buy NXT around october16
so i could plan the timing
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« Reply #270 on: June 13, 2016, 02:00:37 pm »


Sure, it's a very good time to buy NXT now since it also grants you the right to receive NXT 2.0 tokens soon.
NXT 2.0 does not ruin anything, it makes NXT more usable and even more beautiful !

may i know when will the NXT 2.0 release, was thinking to buy NXT around october16
so i could plan the timing

Hi San2Salim,

Here is the roadmap:
http://nxt.org/roadmap/

You'll be in time on October the 16th for the FXT token (block generating chain token), but price can be higher than 1st of July.
Next year the FNX token (childchain transaction token) will be distributed.

Forum discussion:
https://nxtforum.org/core-development-announcements/announcing-nxt-2-0-roadmap/
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« Reply #271 on: June 13, 2016, 02:06:42 pm »

better to buy at July, then can get 1:1 current call FXT.
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« Reply #272 on: June 16, 2016, 11:12:50 am »

The CPC campaign is over but the results werent very satisfying, it was slow and it just got finished today.

I`d just rather resume normal operations with the daily campaign its a mixture of CPC and CPM % to the purchasing power, it's much more stable now than earlier, since so many new people advertise there it makes it very predictable how much clicks we will get.

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« Reply #273 on: June 17, 2016, 07:11:11 pm »

Ethereum is crumbling, now is the time to promote NXT.
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« Reply #274 on: June 17, 2016, 08:49:45 pm »

10k sat please. Thanks.
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« Reply #275 on: June 18, 2016, 02:50:48 pm »

Ok I`ve setup a big round now, probably the biggest round ever. We need to use this opportunity while ETH is suffering to promote NXT.

The current round will run for 2 weeks, and we shall expect many new NXT users in the meantime!
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« Reply #276 on: June 19, 2016, 11:58:50 am »


There you go phideas :)

Awesome banners, thanks man 8)

hi marc, im into NXT because of YOU  ;D
especially this favourite video =  youtube.com/watch?v=S497PGiRX3M

now this topic is correlated to revitalization plan.. youtube surely effective
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« Reply #277 on: June 20, 2016, 05:03:56 pm »

Hey guys!
Here is a tip for cheap Ads. The GetGems (telegram client with built in crypto) has a Telegram Ad channel. Current reach is around 24000 people. Assuming many of them crypto users.
Price of GEMZ is super low, recently crashed bc/ Poloniex delisted the coin. Still available @BitTrex. I think we could try to take advantage of this.

Ad channel is reachable via GetGems Web App only. https://web.getgems.org Price per ad (telegram channel post + one image) is 200 GEMZ. Screenshot of the UI:



In case of problems with app or loading funds I can assist or share contacts to devs.
Disclosure: I am holding GEMZ, but not selling any of them.

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« Reply #278 on: June 20, 2016, 06:30:56 pm »

I would be happy to donate the 200 GEMZ for the ad. Just give me the address to send the GEMZ to.

Edit: Or give me a picture and a nice text (200 characters max) and I will do it myself.
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« Reply #279 on: June 21, 2016, 08:32:14 am »

So I created an experiment Ad post to see if it is worth anything.  :) Targeting url to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1518497.0 ARDOR ANN.
I will post a screnshot here when it gets published. URL is shorted via goo.gl so I can measure clicks. Assuming it will take some time for the Ad to propagate to GetGems users. After week or two we should see how many users we reached out this way.

@durerus Thanks for your offer, no need to donate now. GEMZ is dust cheap now. To post this Ad is worth maybe 5c. I wrote a disclosure to not let anyone think I am shilling for GetGems. Lets see if this Ad will be successfull or not.
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« Reply #280 on: June 21, 2016, 08:45:03 am »

Can we have a campaign with a good looking ARDOR ad running at coinmarketcap while the momentum is there? We should be able to collectively pitch in to fund their minimum campaign budget.

At reddit too, in /r/cryptocurrency, /r/btc if this is permitted by the rules. /r/investing
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« Reply #281 on: June 21, 2016, 09:16:08 am »

Can we have a campaign with a good looking ARDOR ad running at coinmarketcap while the momentum is there? We should be able to collectively pitch in to fund their minimum campaign budget.

At reddit too, in /r/cryptocurrency, /r/btc if this is permitted by the rules. /r/investing

I'm glad to see this suggestion, (especially from you lurker10 :) ).
How much would be needed?
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« Reply #282 on: June 21, 2016, 09:24:49 am »

Can we have a campaign with a good looking ARDOR ad running at coinmarketcap while the momentum is there? We should be able to collectively pitch in to fund their minimum campaign budget.

At reddit too, in /r/cryptocurrency, /r/btc if this is permitted by the rules. /r/investing

I'm glad to see this suggestion, (especially from you lurker10 :) ).
How much would be needed?

I don't know how much, I'd think 1 btc would do for starters to test waters in a couple of those places, frequented by crypto crowds. It should draw some attention, but I have virtually zero promotion experience to evaluate prospects. It is completely up to RealBitcoin who has proven he knows this business. Let's wait to hear his judgement.
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« Reply #283 on: June 21, 2016, 11:58:51 am »




Nxt Ad is out. Cropped the link in screenshot to not influence results. So far 23 click in first 3 hours. I will post results if it gets interesting.
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« Reply #284 on: June 21, 2016, 12:02:04 pm »

Awesome! great job and thnx!
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« Reply #285 on: June 21, 2016, 09:59:51 pm »

So I created an experiment Ad post to see if it is worth anything.  :) Targeting url to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1518497.0 ARDOR ANN.
I will post a screnshot here when it gets published. URL is shorted via goo.gl so I can measure clicks. Assuming it will take some time for the Ad to propagate to GetGems users. After week or two we should see how many users we reached out this way.

@durerus Thanks for your offer, no need to donate now. GEMZ is dust cheap now. To post this Ad is worth maybe 5c. I wrote a disclosure to not let anyone think I am shilling for GetGems. Lets see if this Ad will be successfull or not.

Probably not many, i heard of GEMZ but i`m not sure of many people use it.

Needs more research or do they specify how many impressions or clicks do you get?

(i tend to not use CPM ever especially in low volume communities)


I don't know how much, I'd think 1 btc would do for starters to test waters in a couple of those places, frequented by crypto crowds. It should draw some attention, but I have virtually zero promotion experience to evaluate prospects. It is completely up to RealBitcoin who has proven he knows this business. Let's wait to hear his judgement.

In /cryptocurrency yes, i dont think /btc allows it.

Also in /investing you will probably get many haters, these fiat investors know nothing about cryptos and would probably feel that its some worthless investment. Probably not a good image for NXT to market itself.

If we want people from the fiat world ,we need to go to conferences and present it there, not just spam it on investment sites.

Thats my opinion.
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« Reply #286 on: June 25, 2016, 11:39:27 pm »

Just a quick update on the current status:





We are only halfway through it ends on july 2nd, but we already made huge positive impact on NXT.
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« Reply #287 on: June 26, 2016, 03:11:23 am »

So I created an experiment Ad post to see if it is worth anything.  :) Targeting url to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1518497.0 ARDOR ANN.
I will post a screnshot here when it gets published. URL is shorted via goo.gl so I can measure clicks. Assuming it will take some time for the Ad to propagate to GetGems users. After week or two we should see how many users we reached out this way.

@durerus Thanks for your offer, no need to donate now. GEMZ is dust cheap now. To post this Ad is worth maybe 5c. I wrote a disclosure to not let anyone think I am shilling for GetGems. Lets see if this Ad will be successfull or not.

Probably not many, i heard of GEMZ but i`m not sure of many people use it.

Needs more research or do they specify how many impressions or clicks do you get?

(i tend to not use CPM ever especially in low volume communities)


I don't know how much, I'd think 1 btc would do for starters to test waters in a couple of those places, frequented by crypto crowds. It should draw some attention, but I have virtually zero promotion experience to evaluate prospects. It is completely up to RealBitcoin who has proven he knows this business. Let's wait to hear his judgement.

In /cryptocurrency yes, i dont think /btc allows it.

Also in /investing you will probably get many haters, these fiat investors know nothing about cryptos and would probably feel that its some worthless investment. Probably not a good image for NXT to market itself.

If we want people from the fiat world ,we need to go to conferences and present it there, not just spam it on investment sites.

Thats my opinion.


Right, more conferences and present, let people over the world know Arodr is asmer.
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« Reply #288 on: June 26, 2016, 09:09:56 am »

Thanks so far @RealBitcoin. We are at 3k sat now. Still 7k sat more to go. Thx.
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« Reply #289 on: July 03, 2016, 06:21:10 am »

Round Finished, results:




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« Reply #290 on: July 03, 2016, 06:28:25 am »

Ok there is 55k NXT left, so I will start the next round soon. It will be the last one, and after that this project is over.

I think NXT has now recovered and with the NXT 2.0 it can start growing naturally, no more "subsidy" is needed.

The price is going up and we have advertised it to many tens thousands of people, so they already know about NXT, they have visited nxt.org, now the next step for NXT would be to create an attraction, people already know about NXT, now its time for them to use it.

The NXT 2.0 buzz will do just that, the media is picking up on it, so I think my job here is done.



Now of course if anyone wants to continue advertising NXT, I would be glad to help them with tips so I wont abandon NXT. However I have other projects in my mind, and I am very busy lately so I cannot put my best to this so that is why it's good to end it.
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« Reply #291 on: July 18, 2016, 07:58:56 am »

Final campaign is over:



All funds are used, and looks like the NXT price got a really nice push from it

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxt/

I will still watch NXT develop, and if anyone wants to continue this campaign I can assist them with good advertising tips.

Looks like overall our project was a success, after we found the optimal advertising techniques. NXT is worth much more than when we started it and we have a direct impact on it, by showing nxt.org to many thousand of people.
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