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« on: July 21, 2016, 01:52:54 pm »

So KickAssTorrents is dead, the police got the administrator and shutdown the website. I wonder if this is a good oportunity for crypto to step up against the issue regarding resiliance to censorship.

A thread on Bitcointalk got me talking about Data Cloud on NXT and I am linking it back to the forum. I want to share thoughts and see how plausible is for this to happen.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559477.new#new

Feel free to chip in and get me more acquainted with Data Cloud and how can it be indexed, and crawled.
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Re: NXTorrents?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2016, 01:57:05 pm »

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Re: NXTorrents?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2016, 01:59:55 pm »

That is also the same plugin:
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/(preview)-torrents-plugin/

But there is 7 pages of discussions. Maybe some will help.
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Re: NXTorrents?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2016, 02:02:21 pm »

A valid point about how to handle the transaction fee cost. Granted is only 1 NXT but I am not sure many users hve the insentive to install NXT to submit a torrent file, and pay 1 NXT.  Someone would need to pick up that tab for them.
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Re: NXTorrents?
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2016, 02:03:53 pm »

In order to index the torrent files on a site, you must be using the NXT API btw.
Check out tagged data section for more info.
https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/The_Nxt_API#Tagged_Data_Operations
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Re: NXTorrents?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2016, 02:04:27 pm »

There is a light client that will be release soon, this will lower the difficulty of getting new user using NXT.

For the 1 NXT fee, you can't avoid it since uploading thing to the blockchain can't be free.
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Re: NXTorrents?
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2016, 02:07:53 pm »

A valid point about how to handle the transaction fee cost. Granted is only 1 NXT but I am not sure many users hve the insentive to install NXT to submit a torrent file, and pay 1 NXT.  Someone would need to pick up that tab for them.
That is a great question indeed.
Maybe you could encrypt the data and combine it with DGS, letting users purchase the shared decryption key? Maybe showing ads on the site is enough to cover the costs? I'm sure there are other ways too. But no one has explored them yet that I know of.
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Re: NXTorrents?
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2016, 02:11:30 pm »

In order to index the torrent files on a site, you must be using the NXT API btw.
Check out tagged data section for more info.
https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/The_Nxt_API#Tagged_Data_Operations

I did a search for Torrents on Data Cloud and end up with the series of Stargate
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Re: NXTorrents?
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2016, 02:15:26 pm »

But users can still download torrent file from NXT without paying NXT, right?

That's the half full part of glass. ;)
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Re: NXTorrents?
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2016, 02:16:02 pm »

A valid point about how to handle the transaction fee cost. Granted is only 1 NXT but I am not sure many users hve the insentive to install NXT to submit a torrent file, and pay 1 NXT.  Someone would need to pick up that tab for them.
That is a great question indeed.
Maybe you could encrypt the data and combine it with DGS, letting users purchase the shared decryption key? Maybe showing ads on the site is enough to cover the costs? I'm sure there are other ways too. But no one has explored them yet that I know of.

Using DGS is an interesting approach.
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Re: NXTorrents?
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2016, 02:22:51 pm »

https://nxtportal.org/
is a public explorer, it can show data cloud transaction. I think it is not what you are looking for, but it illustrated some Nxt ApI command.
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Re: NXTorrents?
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2016, 02:25:01 pm »

A valid point about how to handle the transaction fee cost. Granted is only 1 NXT but I am not sure many users hve the insentive to install NXT to submit a torrent file, and pay 1 NXT.  Someone would need to pick up that tab for them.
That is a great question indeed.
Maybe you could encrypt the data and combine it with DGS, letting users purchase the shared decryption key? Maybe showing ads on the site is enough to cover the costs? I'm sure there are other ways too. But no one has explored them yet that I know of.

Using DGS is an interesting approach.
Combine it with a chrome browser plugin, acting as a NXT wallet/torrent browser and shapeshift integration and voilĂ , you have a torrent marketplace.
Technically I don't see why this cannot be done. It is quite a bit of work though, so I'll leave the idea here for anyone to pick up ;)
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Re: NXTorrents?
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2016, 02:27:59 pm »


Using DGS is an interesting approach.

What is DGS?
tried looking it up on the NXT Glossary but couldnt find it.
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Re: NXTorrents?
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2016, 02:30:05 pm »

Digital good store = nxt marketplace.
https://nxt.org/what-is-nxt/marketplace/
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