Topic: [NXT3D] The NXT Community 3D Virtual World (Read 85107 times)

OutSL · « **on:** January 06, 2016, 04:30:58 pm »

Welcome to the new age of the 3D social networking (Coming Soon).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG268QbZhao

This offer is a Pre-Order intended to raise the funds required for the server whose characteristics and cost are the following:
https://www.soyoustart.com/fr/offres/e3-sat-2.xml
cost Including Windows Server 2012 Standard, domain name and the setup fees:
~ 860 Euros let's say 900 (hidden fees and invisible bottom page's stars fees ...)

i used coinimal to calculate the rate in NXT because i will use neteller to pay the server later and that give:
166,666.6667 NXT (lucky number

) at 0.0054EUR/NXT, divided in 56 available lands that give 3000 NXT per year

The first goal of this virtual world is the promotion of the NXT as currency and as concept into the metaverse, if you have followed the white rabbit from the beginning, you know now that is targeting an 1 million users population with ~ 34000 daily active users... i hope those users will become NXT users too.

For this reason! only the NXT projects owners and all the entities, websites, exchangers, assets owners... that work with or on-top of the NXT network are allowed to pre-order a land from this offer and they have to respect the following terms of service:
- no pornographic contents.
- no illegal contents.
- mandatory urban-modern building.

- Red Parcels: are reserved & recommanded to the NXT projects owners and the websites using NXT
- Orange Parcels: reserved & recommanded for the assets owners, exchangers, trading desks... (close to the trading palace)
- Blue Parcels: are reserved & recommanded to the entertainment related projects, games, casinos... NXT music store... (close to the entertainment area)
- Yellow Parcels: are for all the other projects...
- The welcome zone IS the NXT marketplace...

You can buy one or more lands following your needs but just the 40m x 40m is sufficient for a representative 3D office for your activity or project and 250NXT/mo is not a big deal...
NOTE: in addition to the 3000NXT , you have to spend between 5$/€ to 10$/€ for the building by offering jobs to the builders and designers... that will be paid in NXT and will be our first ambassadors in the metaverse... (viral effect), you can offer your job in the virtual worlds communities here:
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/statistics/metaverse-communities/
https://plus.google.com/communities/116284417302234467612

please, if you dont know what is a virtual world or need more infos, read the following topic:
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=10328.0

If you want a representative 3D office for your activity or business, please select a land number and send it as message when you purchase this service, this land will be reserved for you.
The service delivery is ~72 hours after the sale of all the available lands... you can follow the progress of sales and help promote the service to get things done faster

Merchand Store: NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N
Service Name : NXT3D Lands Rental 1 Year
Service ID : 5262690982377691296

thank you all & @++
(topic under edition!)

coretechs · « **Reply #1 on:** January 08, 2016, 03:02:15 pm »

Just placed an order for a parcel for https://nxtportal.org. Perfect use for the DGS.

OutSL · « **Reply #2 on:** January 08, 2016, 03:39:26 pm »

Quote from: coretechs on January 08, 2016, 03:02:15 pm

Just placed an order for a parcel for https://nxtportal.org. Perfect use for the DGS.

Thank you for your support and purchase , i wait the response of the donators because they was firsts if nobody want the land 4 or 13 or 19 will be your's, Welcome on board

The #50 reserved by MCoin and #16 is pre-reserved in wait for the donators response too

Thank you all and @++

abctc · « **Reply #3 on:** January 08, 2016, 08:01:07 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 06, 2016, 04:30:58 pm

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The first goal of this virtual world is the promotion of the NXT as currency and as concept into the metaverse...

- interesting! Partially translated and shared here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345882.msg13488716#msg13488716

OutSL · « **Reply #4 on:** January 08, 2016, 08:10:26 pm »

Quote from: abctc on January 08, 2016, 08:01:07 pm

Quote from: OutSL on January 06, 2016, 04:30:58 pm
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The first goal of this virtual world is the promotion of the NXT as currency and as concept into the metaverse...
- interesting! Partially translated and shared here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345882.msg13488716#msg13488716

Thank you

please select a land number from the map above, will be reserved for you

OutSL · « **Reply #5 on:** January 08, 2016, 08:46:14 pm »

Legend:
- Green Lands : reserved and confirmed.
- Lands with Stars : reserved and in wait

Actual Residents:
- MCoin #50
- abctc #31 for https://nxtex.info
- coretechs #4 for https://nxtportal.org
- lopalcar # 33
- Kora # 30 for Project ORA::XOS
- Riker # 15 Core-Dev private office
- futurist #13 for http://coresocial.club/
- BARR_Official #28 for http://barr.me/
- EvilDave # 16 (not confirmed yet )
- LocoMB # 37

thank you all and @++

yassin54 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 08, 2016, 10:38:08 pm »

Tweeted!! https://twitter.com/MagicNxt/status/685590668815773696

AQQA · « **Reply #7 on:** January 09, 2016, 03:10:30 am »

Long term lurker, first time poster here, but wanted to ask a few questions:

1. The parcels are only open to current primary contributors to the NXT ecosystem? Or to anyone who wants to get one AND contribute in other ways?

I've been in btc and alts since late 2013, ridden several up and down, and have kept an eye on NXT for over a year, and gradually fallen more and more in love with NXT.

My *intentions* are to apply some 3D modeling skills to virtual environments and the like, though I can't say that they will be at the level of an integral or exceptionally valuable outlet or store, like nxter, nxtportal, nxtreporting, CORE, etc etc, though I would like to contribute writing/copy and the like.

If so, I get the need to keep the parcels close to the center space reserved for active service providers.

2. Is the intention to offer additional parcels a-la Second Life (at some point) to those who wish to purchase and contribute?

3. You mentioned "asset holders"; are you referring to a NXT asset? Is it private or open? I didn't see any Asset ID #.

Thanks very much, and I look forward to seeing this project develop!!

yassin54 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 09, 2016, 10:21:54 am »

Welcome to Nxt @AQQA

OutSL · « **Reply #9 on:** January 09, 2016, 10:54:01 am »

Hi

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1. The parcels are only open to current primary contributors to the NXT ecosystem? Or to anyone who wants to get one AND contribute in other ways?

The goals of this project and virtual world is the promotion of the NXT as currency and concept into the metaverse, this part of the project is like the homepage in a normal website... the virtual place where the new users will start first time and the central plazza is the arrival point of the hypergrid travelers...

first things that a visitor will get is the 3D version of the NXT marketplace (the buildings in the central plazza) and the active projects panel (red parcels), if the visitor goals are entretenments he have the blue zone, if he want to buy NXT he can go to the orange parcels projects (exchangers...) the global vision is very complex and ramified so that it serves to everyone regardless of the users goals
For this reason, only the NXT projects are allowed to pre-order now!

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2. Is the intention to offer additional parcels a-la Second Life (at some point) to those who wish to purchase and contribute?

When the server and the virtual world will be on-line, i will add some space available to all... this server can host x2 the actual project size in a good conditions serving at 1000 avatars in same time (x3 the extreme limit)

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3. You mentioned "asset holders"; are you referring to a NXT asset? Is it private or open? I didn't see any Asset ID #.

an asset will be the next step if and only if the project have a success and we feel the need extend the infrastructure with more servers... the decision to push it towards a business model with asset and dividends should be taken in agreement with residents because the life into the virtual world will be in a democratic way

Thank you and welcome to the NXT community

AQQA · « **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2016, 04:48:58 pm »

@yassin54, Thanks!

@OutSL, thank you for the detailed answer, it clarifies, and makes a lot of sense. Good luck all!

sadface · « **Reply #11 on:** January 09, 2016, 05:13:07 pm »

a question:
why no porn? iirc it was big in second life

LocoMB · « **Reply #12 on:** January 09, 2016, 05:41:39 pm »

Quote from: sadface on January 09, 2016, 05:13:07 pm

a question:
why no porn? iirc it was big in second life

I think it has to do with not obstructing those large parts of the user base that would not like that.

So if you want a red light district, you'd just have to fire up your own server instance- which you can do if you want.

If you get the right twist to it, it can certainly become a very profitable business- but since this is the first ever NXT friendly VR instance, I think it is tactically advantageous to make it family-friendly

BARR_Official · « **Reply #13 on:** January 09, 2016, 06:43:22 pm »

So BARR would go in the orange district?

sadface · « **Reply #14 on:** January 09, 2016, 08:06:15 pm »

Quote from: LocoMB on January 09, 2016, 05:41:39 pm

Quote from: sadface on January 09, 2016, 05:13:07 pm
a question:
why no porn? iirc it was big in second life

I think it has to do with not obstructing those large parts of the user base that would not like that.

So if you want a red light district, you'd just have to fire up your own server instance- which you can do if you want.

If you get the right twist to it, it can certainly become a very profitable business- but since this is the first ever NXT friendly VR instance, I think it is tactically advantageous to make it family-friendly

iirc, when linden labs wanted to clean up second life, they said either gambling or porn has to go. they went with gambling. its an area where people need a tool to exchange money for a service. i think it could be tactically advantageous to invite porn.
...however second life and opensim might have different audiences. someone with knowledge would have to chime in.

AQQA · « **Reply #15 on:** January 09, 2016, 10:01:19 pm »

There're several ways to look at this, that come down to the end goal of the NXT opensim. If it's going to be a 3D social environment--i.e. targeted towards every day users--then it may serve as a means of drawing people in to keep adult-themed features, since that's what most new people to SL go to first, by most anecdotal accounts. However, there's plenty of porn available quickly and easily that doesn't require a separate viewer and software, so unless there's a compelling uniqueness to make the relative (relative to a 10 second web search or dedicated porn site) hassle of going to a 3d/VR area for something specific, then it may prove to have more downside appeal than up.

Conversely, if it's continuing the NXT approach of targeting and appealing to businesses/startups as a means of streamlining their business functions, then a no porn/no gambling policy would seem to be an unspoken requirement. That said, I'm not sure if a social 3d environment is something that any non-VR company will focus on or draw utility from, you know? So shaping policy to businesses that may or may not utilize the space isn't necessarily advisable either. Getting commercial customers to adopt NXT is a worthwhile challenge, and I think the NXT functionality is broad enough that a NXT-focused 3D opensim might only serve as a nice-to-have, forward-looking feature, rather than the main draw.

The features mentioned by OP that highlight NXT-exclusive markets like the music store, freemarket, the built-in marketplace, and others seems to be the best path, certainly at first. If, at a certain point (hopefully!) there's enough users that offering new and broader services becomes a regular and necessary theme, then I'd think a red light district would be a natural evolution to the offering. Cam services, vr strip clubs, 3d theatres, etc all seem ideally suited to this format (and crypto in general), and something that could underpin a foundational complement to the (supposedly) burgeoning VR market, where content to utilize the new hardware still seems to be somewhat modest.

Just my .02 NXT...

Kora · « **Reply #16 on:** January 10, 2016, 01:57:30 am »

Very interesting concept you have here, congratulations

Can I reserve yellow plot 48 for project ORA? We still don't know what ORA and 'XOS' exactly are yet, so that probably makes ORA an 'other', so a yellow plot.

Can you confirm how I pay the fee? Do I buy some assets, or is this something from the DGS?

thanks

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If you want a representative 3D office for your activity or business, please select a land number and send it as message when you purchase this service, this land will be reserved for you.
The service delivery is ~72 hours after the sale of all the available lands... you can follow the progress of sales and help promote the service to get things done faster

Merchand Store: NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N
Service Name : NXT3D Lands Rental 1 Year
Service ID : 5262690982377691296

OutSL · « **Reply #17 on:** January 10, 2016, 06:08:46 am »

Hello World

sorry got internet problems yesterday

First day of the Trading Palace

(work in progress)

HD: http://i65.tinypic.com/sav14w.png

i will add a region in a hidden zone and call it PerverCity

(joking)
no, porn in this project is a bad idea and a false note in the melody... the goals are the promotion and the information... a business virtual world first (porn attract grimlins and darkvadors like the light attract the mosquitoes

)

Quote from: BARR_Official on January 09, 2016, 06:43:22 pm

So BARR would go in the orange district?

yes, the orange side is for exchangers, trading desks and the major assets

Quote from: Kora on January 10, 2016, 01:57:30 am

Very interesting concept you have here, congratulations

Can I reserve yellow plot 48 for project ORA? We still don't know what ORA and 'XOS' exactly are yet, so that probably makes ORA an 'other', so a yellow plot.

Can you confirm how I pay the fee? Do I buy some assets, or is this something from the DGS?

thanks

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If you want a representative 3D office for your activity or business, please select a land number and send it as message when you purchase this service, this land will be reserved for you.
The service delivery is ~72 hours after the sale of all the available lands... you can follow the progress of sales and help promote the service to get things done faster

Merchand Store: NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N
Service Name : NXT3D Lands Rental 1 Year
Service ID : 5262690982377691296

i did not invent anything! this technology has existed for 15 years but it has been monopolized by its owner (Linden Lab) instead of making from it an universal service as imagined by its inventor Philip Rosedale...

just pay your parcel, i will confirm it here and will change the 48 to reserved in the map

NXT-GFYJ-TY44-885Q-3VJJA & NXT-HBFW-X8TE-WXPW-DZFAG Please select your lands, i sent a message to your wallets

Thank you all and @++

Kora · « **Reply #18 on:** January 10, 2016, 06:34:53 am »

Quote from: OutSL on January 10, 2016, 06:08:46 am

Quote from: Kora on January 10, 2016, 01:57:30 am
Very interesting concept you have here, congratulations

Can I reserve yellow plot 48 for project ORA? We still don't know what ORA and 'XOS' exactly are yet, so that probably makes ORA an 'other', so a yellow plot.

Can you confirm how I pay the fee? Do I buy some assets, or is this something from the DGS?

thanks

Quote
If you want a representative 3D office for your activity or business, please select a land number and send it as message when you purchase this service, this land will be reserved for you.
The service delivery is ~72 hours after the sale of all the available lands... you can follow the progress of sales and help promote the service to get things done faster

Merchand Store: NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N
Service Name : NXT3D Lands Rental 1 Year
Service ID : 5262690982377691296

just pay your land, i will confirm it here and will change the 48 to reserved in the map

I have paid the fee!

If possible can we have Orange 30 or 32? I think ORA meets the requirement for that region, or will one day.

thanks

OutSL · « **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2016, 07:00:25 am »

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If possible can we have Orange 30 or 32? I think ORA meets the requirement for that region, or will one day.

Done! welcome on board

LocoMB · « **Reply #20 on:** January 10, 2016, 07:51:02 am »

Quote from: sadface on January 09, 2016, 08:06:15 pm

iirc, when linden labs wanted to clean up second life, they said either gambling or porn has to go. they went with gambling. its an area where people need a tool to exchange money for a service. i think it could be tactically advantageous to invite porn.
...however second life and opensim might have different audiences. someone with knowledge would have to chime in.

LindenLabs and opensim are very different indeed. LindenLabs is a centralized US$ corporation that offers space on their servers using the proprietary version of opensim, and opensim is the open source tool to build such VR instances by anybody who is inclined to do so.

This also explains the outrageously silly $ amounts that have been told to be paid for 2ndLife server spaces: plain old stupid artificial scarcity imposed by an exploitative monopoly.

But in the end of the day, on opensim as in 2ndLife, the owner/maintainer of the server can set the rules. In the case of opensim, I think that is quite alright, becasue if you don't like it, you can always start your own.

For the purpose of economic systems, the opensim based VR worlds are the perfect match for cryptocurrencies. So even if the VR instance (or world) is ultimately owned by the sevrer 'owner', having currencies that span all these VR worlds that are NOT owned by the server owners is very much desirable!

Guess what: right now, there is s.t. called 'Open Metaverse Currency (OMC)'. This is fully owned and controlled by VirWox, that keep it in their centralized server for 'safekeeping' for the users.

What??? How does that sound to crypto currency savants? Exactly. This OMC is a not a currency.

Early attempts to integrate Bitcoin have failed, and I think that was because of the VirWox monopoly.

This venue provides a competitive advantage to NXT over all other cryptos, and I have a hard time understanding why the established NXT projects are not all over this already!

The NXT platform is technologically superior to the others anyway, and what has been holding NXT back is the lack of leverage in the form of actual utility value!

OpenSim offers a way to change that!

About the 'OMC':

https://www.virwox.com/omc-open-metaverse-currency.php?language=en
https://www.virwox.com/buy-linden-dollars.php?language=en
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/VirWoX

About the ecosystem:

http://www.hyperica.com/
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/statistics/active-grids/
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://www.kitely.com/market?cat=51500

and YES, the last one is a DIGITAL GOODS STORE, just for starters!

OutSL · « **Reply #21 on:** January 10, 2016, 08:33:23 am »

Hi

yes its true ! just in SL you dont have the right to access to the server and you get only what you have as options in the client side, the server side is not public or open source.
in opensim you are god... with full access to all... source included

For Virwox and the OMC, they use a modified version of NSL/DTL money server in a way that the module is in the users side and the money server work as shared service in the virwox servers... nothing to have with crypto-currencies

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Early attempts to integrate Bitcoin have failed, and I think that was because of the VirWox monopoly.

hmmm! we can't talk about fails because this is the first and unique virtual world using bitcoin :
https://www.yrgrid.com/
but the NXT tool box will bring the perfect business solution for the metaverse! we have just to present the things in the correct way and in a familiar environement for the metaverse users... and this what i try to do with your help and investments...

Thank you all and welcome again to the new residents

LocoMB · « **Reply #22 on:** January 10, 2016, 08:52:58 am »

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Early attempts to integrate Bitcoin have failed, and I think that was because of the VirWox monopoly
hmmm! we can't talk about fails because this is the first and unique virtual world using bitcoin :
https://www.yrgrid.com/

aha! I was referring to things that happened in 2011/2012, I was obviously not aware of these later developments!
But this shows that this a very promising opportunity for cryptos!

OutSL · « **Reply #23 on:** January 10, 2016, 09:02:16 am »

Quote from: LocoMB on January 10, 2016, 08:52:58 am

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Early attempts to integrate Bitcoin have failed, and I think that was because of the VirWox monopoly
hmmm! we can't talk about fails because this is the first and unique virtual world using bitcoin :
https://www.yrgrid.com/

aha! I was referring to things that happened in 2011/2012, I was obviously not aware of these later developments!
But this shows that this a very promising opportunity for cryptos!

This grid will be my first target when the work on our virtual world will be presentable! they have the requiered background on cryptos and the conversion to NXT will be more profitable for them and more easy for them users... our first ally in the market

Thank you and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #24 on:** January 10, 2016, 04:10:23 pm »

Hi again

Happy to announce that Riker one of Core-Devs has joined our adventure parcel #15, I hope this experience will be intellectually and financially profitable for him.

Thank you all and welcome on board Riker

OutSL · « **Reply #25 on:** January 10, 2016, 04:41:58 pm »

Hi again

Welcome on board futurist
CORE Media project: http://coresocial.club/
parcel#13

Thank you and @++

futurist · « **Reply #26 on:** January 10, 2016, 04:49:22 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 10, 2016, 04:41:58 pm

Hi again
Welcome on board futurist
CORE Media project: http://coresocial.club/
parcel#13

Thank you and @++

Awesome project! Glad to be involved.

OutSL · « **Reply #27 on:** January 11, 2016, 11:23:41 am »

Hello World

This is an update of the current state of fundraising:

Merchand Store: NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N
Service Name : NXT3D Lands Rental 1 Year
Service ID : 5262690982377691296

we have reached 53000 NXT as total of the donations and reservations from the required amount of 900 euros, the actual list of the residents is:

- MCoin #50
- abctc #31 for https://nxtex.info
- coretechs #4 for https://nxtportal.org
- lopalcar # 33
- Kora # 30 for Project ORA::XOS
- Riker # 15 Core-Dev private office
- futurist #13 for http://coresocial.club/
- BARR_Official #28 for http://barr.me/
- EvilDave # 16 (not confirmed yet )
- LocoMB # 37
- Ludom # 17 (not confirmed yet )

i hope that more projects will join us soon, i know that most of the projects owners dont have a virtual world experience and may be they have not understood the goals and objectives of my initiative and how it can be profitable for them ... do not think too much and follow the white rabbit

2end day of the Trading palace:

HD: http://i68.tinypic.com/qyb7yb.png

the down part is divided in 3 levels B+2, the base is for the analytics, charts and live data... the 1st level will be the assets desks, a place where the assets owners can promote them projects... the 2end level is for the MS coins desks.
the top part i dont know but still under edition i just placed this some cubes (called prims or primitives) to take measurements and see if like this will be harmonious with the rest or no...

Please if you are an NXT project, asset, MScoin owner or a marketplace seller join our project and reserve a land now! you will thank's me later

Thank you all and @++

Ludom · « **Reply #28 on:** January 11, 2016, 03:18:41 pm »

I buy a space for NXTER.ORG. It's like a donation.

OutSL · « **Reply #29 on:** January 11, 2016, 04:17:25 pm »

Quote from: Ludom on January 11, 2016, 03:18:41 pm

I buy a space for NXTER.ORG. It's like a donation.

thank you for your support because without the active contribution of the major actors in the NXT ecosystem , this project will not make or have sense ... i'm not trying to create a clone or a money pump like second life but a business model that the other virtual worlds that form the metaverse will duplicate and take it as an example and go beyond by developing their own infrastructure based on the NXT network.

all the projects that join our own virtual world will be the > Example < of a functional concept and this can only be beneficial to the said projects first and the network in general.

Please choose a parcel number, I will reserve it for you

Ha! the sale and the distribution of the lands are in itselfs a functional example... my little Lands Seller will take care of the delivery of the lands to the new owners and it works in concert with the marketplace via the NRS's API...

Thank you again and welcome on board

BARR_Official · « **Reply #30 on:** January 11, 2016, 08:33:48 pm »

Bought #28 on the Marketplace

OutSL · « **Reply #31 on:** January 11, 2016, 08:50:20 pm »

Quote from: BARR_Official on January 11, 2016, 08:33:48 pm

Bought #28 on the Marketplace

Ok, welcome on board

lopalcar · « **Reply #32 on:** January 11, 2016, 08:50:42 pm »

Hey OutSL, would you link us to some tutorials or help us to manage this parcels, because I bought it without knowing anything about how things are build in this world...
Are we free to build an office in 3ds max or blender for example and then import it into my parcel? Some guidance to start taking a look into how all this stuff works would be really appreciate

If you write us a "How to manage your brand new virtual parcel for dummies" will be great

OutSL · « **Reply #33 on:** January 11, 2016, 08:57:30 pm »

Quote from: lopalcar on January 11, 2016, 08:50:42 pm

Hey OutSL, would you link us to some tutorials or help us to manage this parcels, because I bought it without knowing anything about how things are build in this world...
Are we free to build an office in 3ds max or blender for example and then import it into my parcel? Some guidance to start taking a look into how all this stuff works would be really appreciate

If you write us a "How to manage your brand new virtual parcel for dummies" will be great

belive it or no its what i was thinking on it before reading you

i will add a dedicated topic in the white rabbit with a places where you can practice and learn the basics, you dont need to learn blender or other complex softwares now! you have all the needed in the client (firestorm) and its easy to build with ( see the last picture above )....
if we was online now someones of you will be learning with me into the virtual world

Thank you and @++
(i am working in the trading palace...)

lopalcar · « **Reply #34 on:** January 11, 2016, 09:02:03 pm »

Nice to know, hope isn't very hard to learn about, if not, I think we will need to start eating and working in the virtual worlds also

keep working and thanks!

OutSL · « **Reply #35 on:** January 11, 2016, 09:11:38 pm »

Quote from: lopalcar on January 11, 2016, 09:02:03 pm

Nice to know, hope isn't very hard to learn about, if not, I think we will need to start eating and working in the virtual worlds also
keep working and thanks!

this technology have ~15 years old, you can find a lot of video tutorials in youtube searching words like "building second life" or "editor second life" in addition to the SL wiki:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Main_Page
just a first search in youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=second+life+building+tutorials+

@++

OutSL · « **Reply #36 on:** January 12, 2016, 12:47:34 pm »

Hello World

among the utilities included in the viewer, there is the possiblility to post directly to facebook, twitter and upload the screenshots to Flickr from the virtual world ... i call them "The Homer Buttons"

these tools will be very useful when we will start the promotion of the virtual world and the projects that are exposed into it...

HD : http://i63.tinypic.com/qz22e0.png

i am working in the virtual world on the background... if you have questions feel free to ask

Thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #37 on:** January 12, 2016, 05:50:38 pm »

Hi again

thank you NXT-8MVA-XCVR-3JC9-2C7C3 for contributing to our effort with 5000 NXT, if you have a project based on the NXT network please choose a land on the map (the building is included)

we have reached 53000 NXT as total of the donations and reservations from the required amount of 900 euros.
at the actual rates on coinimal(0.0057€/NXT) that give ~33% of the amount!
i ask again to all the projects owners that work with or on-top of the NXT network to join my initiative
because it is only together that we will succeed !

Thank you again and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #38 on:** January 13, 2016, 08:36:44 am »

Hello World

Happy to see that the NXT rates are rising!, with the actual rates and available amount we are at ~50% from the requiered 900 euros (122,553 NXT at 0.0075NXT/EUR)

the work still in progress but i did some experimentations yesterday to see if we can use the projects RSS feeds if they have one enabled... eg; an avatar click an item, as result he get the last titles and the links to the articles in the chat window...

if you have questions please feel free to ask

Thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #39 on:** January 13, 2016, 09:32:29 pm »

Hi again

just some words about today's work and progress...
most of the working time today was focused on the opensim web interface... the web part where the new users will register and create them avatar.

between the available web interfaces there is only 2 that are good for our project and i selected for you and for it's usability the joomla web interface... i installed the last one and i installed on it this extension:
http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/extension/living/education-a-culture/plotalot

that will serve me later to display the charts like nxtreporting but in 3D

, i am exploring the ways to make this working with the NRS...
i still have 2 templates from the rocket theme collection, i joined the club in 2012 i think... i still have the right to use 1 for a single domain and i will use it, please select one template from the following i will work on it as base:
http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/nebulae/
http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/dominion/

thoses templates have a lot of variations and presets... colors... you can see the options and styles by clicking the top menu items...

i also did a bit of shopping

i got some nice items like the columns and the chair in the image :

HD: http://i64.tinypic.com/2u9qs68.png

in wait for the residents template selection

Thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #40 on:** January 14, 2016, 08:41:26 am »

Hello World

starting an other working day in our virtual world

For our residents: please select a template from the mentioned above and let me know, this is important because i have old J2.5 versions and i have to work a bit on the template to make it working with the last joomla... template adaptations...

please if you have question feel free to ask! i read the forum from the virtual world with the internal browser...
Thank you and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #41 on:** January 14, 2016, 01:35:43 pm »

Hi again

this or this

http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/dominion/?presets=preset2&backgroundlevel=high&bodylevel=high

http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/nebulae/?presets=preset7

you can see the other styles too (top menu)...

thank you and @++
(we can't build a democratic model with sleeping residents... oupsss

)

abctc · « **Reply #42 on:** January 14, 2016, 02:22:06 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 14, 2016, 01:35:43 pm

this or this
http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/dominion/?presets=preset2&backgroundlevel=high&bodylevel=high
http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/nebulae/?presets=preset7

- hi OutSL, thank you for your hard work!

I like nebulae.

OutSL · « **Reply #43 on:** January 14, 2016, 02:51:09 pm »

Quote from: abctc on January 14, 2016, 02:22:06 pm

Quote from: OutSL on January 14, 2016, 01:35:43 pm
this or this
http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/dominion/?presets=preset2&backgroundlevel=high&bodylevel=high
http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/nebulae/?presets=preset7
- hi OutSL, thank you for your hard work!

I like nebulae.

its my 1st choice under the preset 4 (bloody red)... in the website where i used it before i played a bit with it in a way that give a metamorph website with a color (preset) per section on the top menu... and all the section childs and menus follow the section preset in all...

we are 2 votes for nebulae

, in wait for more opinions
@++

OutSL · « **Reply #44 on:** January 15, 2016, 10:23:30 am »

Hello World

head in the clouds and the coffee does not work...

today i rest, may be i will work on it this afternoon... i still have 15 holiday days , i think i can finish in less 2 major parts of the simulation before returning to my job...

it seems as if the rising bubble burst, I have not exchanged NXT because i do not give myself that right! normally every thing related to the community virtual world and decision making must be agreements with all residents and contributors in the community... in a democratic way, voting system...

i dont have head to 3D this day may be i will do some marketing and communication tasks... looking for sponsors...
if you have an NXT based project , please join our initiative

Logically, a project owner that does not investing even 30$ / year for the promotion of their project is a bad businessman and you can consider my project as a kind of skills and credibility filter

Thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #45 on:** January 15, 2016, 03:00:51 pm »

Hi again

i posted a first call and job offer for the virtual worlds builders and the scripters here:
https://plus.google.com/communities/116284417302234467612/stream/6b866310-03c8-4f29-9383-7b40611541b0?hl=fr

i hope someones will join us soon

Thank you and @++

futurist · « **Reply #46 on:** January 15, 2016, 11:43:56 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 14, 2016, 01:35:43 pm

Hi again
this or this
http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/dominion/?presets=preset2&backgroundlevel=high&bodylevel=high

http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/nebulae/?presets=preset7

you can see the other styles too (top menu)...

thank you and @++
(we can't build a democratic model with sleeping residents... oupsss )

Nebulae

OutSL · « **Reply #47 on:** January 16, 2016, 01:57:37 pm »

Hello World

I want to share with residents and my readers some thoughts about the project and how things are organized, maybe you will see a roadmap or an actions plan

First, what we are doing?
1- we work together, you with your investments and financing and me with my skills and experience to offer to all crypto-currencies communities an innovative means of communication and information in the form of a virtual world with all the possibilities and technology it offers and under the NXT flag... that will serve to promote the concept and NXT tools in the other cryptos communities...

2- create a showroom or a kind of business model based on the NXT ecosystem compozed with the interactive 3D versions of the residents website or their projects as virtual offices or headquarters ... depending on the project activity... that will serve to promote the concept and NXT tools in the metaverse...

Secondly, what is the situation?
my project is like creating an inter-communities bridge but the difficulty level is like creating a bridge between two mountains. we must first prepare the points of departure and arrival of the bridge ...

on our side, our mountain is the cost of the server and effort it takes to build something presentable and acceptable to all (for this no porn inside)

on the other side of the bridge there is the metaverse and ~ 34,000 daily users and this will require a promotional effort to bring in new visitors and new NXT users

we have reached 53000 NXT as total of the donations and reservations from the required amount of 900 euros,

the actual list of the residents is:
- MCoin #50
- abctc #31 for https://nxtex.info
- coretechs #4 for https://nxtportal.org
- lopalcar # 33
- Kora # 30 for Project ORA::XOS
- Riker # 15 Core-Dev private office
- futurist #13 for http://coresocial.club/
- BARR_Official #28 for http://barr.me/
- EvilDave # 16 (not confirmed yet )
- LocoMB # 37
- Ludom # 17 (not confirmed yet )

Merchand Store: NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N
Service Name : NXT3D Lands Rental 1 Year
Service ID : 5262690982377691296

To conclude,
I would like to make it clear, if someone wants a refund simply say it without giving any reason, I will refund you without comments

(donators included!)

the work still in progress i am writing the scripts for the google charts and the assets...

Quote

Nebulae

installed and the work is in progress too

Thank you all and @++

abctc · « **Reply #48 on:** January 16, 2016, 02:36:01 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 16, 2016, 01:57:37 pm

... on our side, our mountain is the cost of the server and effort ...

Quote from: OutSL on January 06, 2016, 04:30:58 pm

... Pre-Order intended to raise the funds required for the server whose characteristics and cost are the following: https://www.soyoustart.com/fr/offres/e3-sat-2.xml
cost Including Windows Server 2012 Standard, domain name and the setup fees:
~ 860 Euros let's say 900 (hidden fees and invisible bottom page's stars fees ...)

- please forgive my ignorance, may be it is possible to rent that server (E3-SAT-2) for 6 month? (for the start) So it will be 35€ * 6 + hidden fees...

OutSL · « **Reply #49 on:** January 16, 2016, 03:53:54 pm »

Hi

Quote from: abctc on January 16, 2016, 02:36:01 pm

Quote from: OutSL on January 16, 2016, 01:57:37 pm
... on our side, our mountain is the cost of the server and effort ...
Quote from: OutSL on January 06, 2016, 04:30:58 pm
... Pre-Order intended to raise the funds required for the server whose characteristics and cost are the following: https://www.soyoustart.com/fr/offres/e3-sat-2.xml
cost Including Windows Server 2012 Standard, domain name and the setup fees:
~ 860 Euros let's say 900 (hidden fees and invisible bottom page's stars fees ...)
- please forgive my ignorance, may be it is possible to rent that server (E3-SAT-2) for 6 month? (for the start) So it will be 35€ * 6 + hidden fees...

yes we can get it even for 1 month but its a bad investment for less than 1 year...
we have 3 choices the 3 are on the same company OVH and the best prices that i found:

1- the basic plan using the KS-3B server here:
http://www.kimsufi.com/fr/serveurs.xml
in this server we can't install windows and we will be forced to use a linux OS and running opensim under mono... this is bad because mono eat ressources and your 16Go of ram server will give like a 8Go in performances (~1/2 of the ressources) and only have 100Mbps bandwidth bridled to 10 Mbps if you exceed a certain time of use... we have already the year of this server! maybe more (bad idea to invest here)

2- the middle way plan, is the actual server choice E3-SAT-2
https://www.soyoustart.com/fr/offres/e3-sat-2.xml
Note: soyoustart, kimsufi and OVH are the same !!! just a multiple panels of the same products...
we can't rent it less than 1 year because i will need a minimum of ~2 months (maybe 3) to finish the work on the project, i will open it even under construction and you will be able to connect and learn in real (virtual) conditions, the builders can also teleport from outside to work on the dedicated projects lands... we have to be online!
the next 3 months are for the promotion and just after the 6 months line (more) that we can see if the project have a succes and can evoluate to the business plan with an asset... (or no!) this server can host at 2 times the project size and we can extend it later for more lands and rentals maybe we will get the next year costs from it

3- the business plan:
this plan have a 5 years time frame and requiere 2 SP-32 or MC-32 here:
https://www.ovh.com/fr/serveurs_dedies/
why 5 years? and why not the soyoustart offers? because this ones have 500Mbps instead soyoustart's 250Mbps bandwidth and the 5 years because the major part of the project earning will come from the regions rentals not only lands... in the virtual worlds, the classic scam is the land rentals... if you don't or can't give proofs that you will not desapear next month(s) you will never sell a land or even a single m²

the 2 servers: 1 for the grid and the other for the rentals and this up the starting capital to ~12500$ ... like you see even 900 euros is hardy to collect i got more donations than purchases and i join all in the project capital...

thank you for your questions

if you want more explanation, please feel free to ask! the answers are importants for all the readers
(for info, the OVH prices and offers change from a country to an other! the best prices are in france)
@++

abctc · « **Reply #50 on:** January 16, 2016, 07:26:38 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 16, 2016, 03:53:54 pm

... you see even 900 euros is hardy to collect...

- I think you know the answer:

Quote from: OutSL on January 16, 2016, 03:53:54 pm

in the virtual worlds, the classic scam is the land rentals...

- personally I 100% trust you, but news like this does not encourage people to part with their money.. But if they already saw some working proof ... even "under construction", initially made on a weak server ...

Riker · « **Reply #51 on:** January 16, 2016, 09:20:57 pm »

@OutSL must admit I'm not exactly sure how you are planing to monetize from having businesses rent offices in your opensim environment.
However you seems like a talented guy and it seems that you know something I don't.
The cruel reality is that anyone who is seriously dealing with NXT development, is already over 100% utilized and practically no one is making money at the moment except these whales who are dumping NXT on exchanges all the time.

In order to get businesses to use your application you need to provide real reason for people to invest time in learning your promising solution.
I suggest you start low, and invest as little as you can in servers since chances are that you won't have more than 3 hits a day initially.
I understand that this solution rely on MS .net so don't use Linux use Windows, get the cheapest server you can get and don't rely on the community to finance it, at least not yet. Once you have a real working solution to show and good track record, you'll see that it is much easier to raise funds.

OutSL · « **Reply #52 on:** January 16, 2016, 09:52:35 pm »

Hi again

Thank you abctc

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personally I 100% trust you

this words have more value for me than all the cryptos + all fiat

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but news like this does not encourage people to part with their money...

http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/statistics/most-popular-hypergrid-worlds/
this list is not just a simple list but a glory wall, only survivors are displayed there. the grids and companies that have a solid infrastructure and a management plan...
I aquired my experience learning from mistakes and success of these grids during the last 5 or 6 years, which is why I tried and I always try to start this project with donations or sponsorship instead an commercial offer or a business plan... on failure things are less painful to deal with ... and people never forgive a commercial when fail

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But if they already saw some working proof ... even "under construction", initially made on a weak server ...

The available amount is ~320€ at the actual coinimal rate 0.0062€/NXT (neteller), for me i don't have a problem with the kimsufi servers even if i am a windows user... but we will not be able to extend the project size or add lands, we will not be able to host more than 100 avatars in same time... bad quality voIP= no conferences and public meetings with voice chat... but will work and if the project fail will cost only this amount...

My approach is simple:
- the failure and loss are forbidden words
- if I do not succeed in collecting the funds, I will refund everyone and everyone will be happy with 0 loss.
- if I succeed to raise the necessary funds, I will take the server that will allow me not only to be online in good conditions but also to survive after the first year and we will get our little place in the glory wall

I would like to hear the other residents about that because the last word is always yours

Thank you and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #53 on:** January 16, 2016, 11:05:37 pm »

Quote from: Riker on January 16, 2016, 09:20:57 pm

@OutSL must admit I'm not exactly sure how you are planing to monetize from having businesses rent offices in your opensim environment.
However you seems like a talented guy and it seems that you know something I don't.
The cruel reality is that anyone who is seriously dealing with NXT development, is already over 100% utilized and practically no one is making money at the moment except these whales who are dumping NXT on exchanges all the time.

In order to get businesses to use your application you need to provide real reason for people to invest time in learning your promising solution.
I suggest you start low, and invest as little as you can in servers since chances are that you won't have more than 3 hits a day initially.
I understand that this solution rely on MS .net so don't use Linux use Windows, get the cheapest server you can get and don't rely on the community to finance it, at least not yet. Once you have a real working solution to show and good track record, you'll see that it is much easier to raise funds.

just an idea of monetizing the project... if I put the button "BUY NXT" on the top menu in the pictures and screenshots in the auction or for sale, in your opinion, how much money can bring us the exclusivity?
this button can be configured to open a dedicated page on coinimal or other exchange... the terminal can serve to the inworld delivery of the virtual NXTs...
the sale of land is only one means among many to self-finance the project and the objective in this plan is not earning money ...

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In order to get businesses to use your application you need to provide real reason for people to invest time in learning your promising solution.

please visit each one of this rentals providers take them as example and let me know if you find someone accepting NXT... (yay US! but we are not in the list yet because we dont have lands to sell

)
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/category/vendors/

Opensimulator is not my application !
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/BSD_License

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your promising solution

this project is like the NXT itself is an experimental project, promising something will be like fraud or a scam try and pretend to have the solution for such a complex problem as crypto currency market is a bit exaggerated... i am just a simple human with limited knowledge and ressources and i do what i can because i can... no more

Thank you and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #54 on:** January 17, 2016, 12:27:10 pm »

Hello World

just a question for all:
what kind of charts do you want for the visual data displays? we can use all this panel...
https://developers.google.com/chart/image/docs/gallery/chart_gall

for our residents:
i am thinking to do a virtual meeting where we will talk about all this and help you to understand how it works...
~18h GMT or 19h GMT is ok?

thank you all and @++

LocoMB · « **Reply #55 on:** January 17, 2016, 01:38:28 pm »

hi!

sorry please- where can I get on the chat? will it be in the opensim?

I do not have the viewer installed yet, if I can make it today, can you please post again the connect ip and port, or link to the posting where you have given instructions?

OutSL · « **Reply #56 on:** January 17, 2016, 01:59:28 pm »

Hi

Quote from: LocoMB on January 17, 2016, 01:38:28 pm

hi!

sorry please- where can I get on the chat? will it be in the opensim?

I do not have the viewer installed yet, if I can make it today, can you please post again the connect ip and port, or link to the posting where you have given instructions?

just install the viewer and register in OsGrid, we will use them sandbox because is permitted to create and do things...
http://www.firestormviewer.org/downloads/
Versions : For SL & Opensim 32 bit or 64bit.

open a free account in OsGrid (user name in 2 words!):
http://www.osgrid.org/index.php/auth/register

after the registration in the web side run firestorm and at the down in the login bar, select in the "Log into grid" list "OsGrid". when the welcome page will be displayed click at left "Sandbox Plaza" in the menu. at down type your registred avatar name (2 words separated by space), password and click the login button... you will log in the sandbox, use the keyboard arrows to move... if you want to use the chat type what you want in the chat tab and click enter to post...

this is the 3rd or 4th time that i write this

baaaaad rabbit hunters
to get the setting window click CTRL+P, the building tools CTRL+B, your first reference in the viewer is the help! use it without moderation

Thank you and @++

abctc · « **Reply #57 on:** January 17, 2016, 03:08:43 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 17, 2016, 01:59:28 pm

just install the viewer and register in OsGrid, we will use them sandbox because is permitted to create and do things...
http://www.firestormviewer.org/downloads/
Versions : For SL & Opensim 32 bit or 64bit.

- that page says ...

Quote

Supported Operating Systems
Windows
Windows Vista 32bit SP2 and Vista 64bit SP2 or later are supported.
Earlier versions of windows are not supported.
Firestorm 4.7.5 will NOT even install on Windows XP.
Firestorm 4.7.1 Beta is the latest version to support Windows XP.
Firestorm 4.7.1 Beta will run on Windows XP 32bit SP3 but expect it to be crashy and support cannot help you with this.

... but I can't find 4.7.1 Beta download. I have spent 30 min at firestormviewer.org, wiki.phoenixviewer.com and Google, but in vain. Could you please direct me to 4.7.1 download page? Thanks. And yes, I am rabbit, but not so white to move from WinXP.

OutSL · « **Reply #58 on:** January 17, 2016, 03:23:46 pm »

Quote from: abctc on January 17, 2016, 03:08:43 pm

Quote from: OutSL on January 17, 2016, 01:59:28 pm
just install the viewer and register in OsGrid, we will use them sandbox because is permitted to create and do things...
http://www.firestormviewer.org/downloads/
Versions : For SL & Opensim 32 bit or 64bit.
- that page says ...
Quote
Supported Operating Systems
Windows
Windows Vista 32bit SP2 and Vista 64bit SP2 or later are supported.
Earlier versions of windows are not supported.
Firestorm 4.7.5 will NOT even install on Windows XP.
Firestorm 4.7.1 Beta is the latest version to support Windows XP.
Firestorm 4.7.1 Beta will run on Windows XP 32bit SP3 but expect it to be crashy and support cannot help you with this.
... but I can't find 4.7.1 Beta download. I have spent 30 min at firestormviewer.org, wiki.phoenixviewer.com and Google, but in vain. Could you please direct me to 4.7.1 download page? Thanks. And yes, I am rabbit, but not so white to move from WinXP.

try the version: Firestorm 4.6.9 (42974) Hotfix Release
http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/fs_older_downloads

if firestorm dont work at all , use this viewer
http://www.singularityviewer.org/downloads

i am already in the sandbox

i dont need to be in my server to work the charts, just turn around you will see the NXT logo

abctc · « **Reply #59 on:** January 17, 2016, 05:54:03 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 17, 2016, 03:23:46 pm

i am already in the sandbox i dont need to be in my server to work the charts, just turn around you will see the NXT logo

- I'm there (Sandbox Plaza 125, 122, 22) too. Can't see NXT logo.

I see Loco MB though.

OutSL · « **Reply #60 on:** January 17, 2016, 07:09:19 pm »

Quote from: abctc on January 17, 2016, 05:54:03 pm

Quote from: OutSL on January 17, 2016, 03:23:46 pm
i am already in the sandbox i dont need to be in my server to work the charts, just turn around you will see the NXT logo
- I'm there (Sandbox Plaza 125, 122, 22) too. Can't see NXT logo.

I see Loco MB though.

LocoMB · « **Reply #61 on:** January 17, 2016, 09:02:13 pm »

Quote from: abctc on January 17, 2016, 05:54:03 pm

Quote from: OutSL on January 17, 2016, 03:23:46 pm
i am already in the sandbox i dont need to be in my server to work the charts, just turn around you will see the NXT logo
- I'm there (Sandbox Plaza 125, 122, 22) too. Can't see NXT logo.

I see Loco MB though.

hey cool! Yeah I was there! But I had some other stuff to do so I could'nt do much else!

Firestorm viewer runs as is on my Ubuntu15.04 - looks like I got mono installed already. Easy as breeze: Downloa, unpack, ./firestorm, and it runs!

OpenSIm itself takes a bit getting used to, but it looks like lots of 3D games I have seen.

Let's expand on this! And thakns @OutSL for the outfit!

OutSL · « **Reply #62 on:** January 17, 2016, 09:09:51 pm »

Hi

you are welcome

there is better avatars and contents for free... just what i had in my inventory.
i did a little demo of the possibilities of the usages to abctc... sorry that you was busy but we will do more meetings before to lunch our own world...

Thank you and @++

LocoMB · « **Reply #63 on:** January 18, 2016, 04:28:15 am »

I just checked again- I found the NXT logo on the canvas at the fringe of sandbox plaza.

When I clicked on it, it turned into a sort of web browser. On the other side, there were a bunch of other canvasses like this.

All this takes a bit getting used to, but it is in principle like lots of other 3D games. Can work out pretty nice for NXT!

OutSL · « **Reply #64 on:** January 18, 2016, 11:54:03 am »

Hello World

Quote from: LocoMB on January 18, 2016, 04:28:15 am

I just checked again- I found the NXT logo on the canvas at the fringe of sandbox plaza.

When I clicked on it, it turned into a sort of web browser. On the other side, there were a bunch of other canvasses like this.

All this takes a bit getting used to, but it is in principle like lots of other 3D games. Can work out pretty nice for NXT!

i prepared this little space for the show

, in the usual language we say (prims or primitives) what you had called canvas and the fringe of sandbox plaza is called "sim border or region border"...

good thing that you did screenshots for the others, this panels are advertising boards and can be rented for NXT in our virtual world... the advertising is the 3rd major mean to self-finance our project... that can be purchased by the NXT projects owners or the metaverse projects owners...

i dont know why but the quality in your screenshots is very bad like if the viewer was working at the minimal level?!? this because the graphic settings are not automatic like in windows (the viewer detect and auto setup itself).
when you run firestorm next time click CTRL+P or on the top bar click the Viewer> preferences, this will open a window, click at left "Graphics" and ajust the graphics: if you have a good graphic card and +4Go of ram you can setup the quality to high, if this dont give you lags or fram by fram effect you can keep it or reduce to mid

HD: http://i66.tinypic.com/14wdfo3.png

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All this takes a bit getting used to, but it is in principle like lots of other 3D games. Can work out pretty nice for NXT!

like i said many times before , this technology is a half way between the games and the social networks, for eg; did you found something to play with ?... the other important thing is that the virtual worlds are made by the users like you and me and not something pre-installed or ready to use like the games... the limit of the applications is your imagination and the server (machine) limits...

we have to fix a day or days to do meetings like this where i will show you how the things are... i hope more residents will join us because this will give you the basic required backround to deal with the virtual worlds...

i am working in my local server... now, if you have questions please feel free to ask

Thank you all and @++

abctc · « **Reply #65 on:** January 18, 2016, 02:00:30 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 17, 2016, 09:09:51 pm

i did a little demo of the possibilities of the usages to abctc...

- yes, thank you very much, that was impressive!

And there, at Sandbox Plaza, was (a bit late) another nexter, scor2k:

Quote from: scor2k link=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345882.msg13587768#msg13587768

Я вот тоже заскочил ) Правда когда там уже никого не было.

OutSL · « **Reply #66 on:** January 18, 2016, 05:06:29 pm »

Hi

Quote from: abctc on January 18, 2016, 02:00:30 pm

Quote from: OutSL on January 17, 2016, 09:09:51 pm
i did a little demo of the possibilities of the usages to abctc...
- yes, thank you very much, that was impressive!

And there, at Sandbox Plaza, was (a bit late) another nexter, scor2k:

Quote from: scor2k link=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345882.msg13587768#msg13587768
Я вот тоже заскочил ) Правда когда там уже никого не было.

YaY! you have already found an application for this in your 1st day! what next ?

Thank you for your support

you must keep this a bit hidden to avoid killing the surprise effect when we start the project promotion... now is OsGrid how will gain users and trafic

you must update your graphic card drivers and do the graphic settings mentioned above, your display quality is bad too! , if you want the same interface like mine, when you start firestorm, change in the "SELECT MODE" list (down right corner) to "Viewer 3", close the viewer and restart it

Thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #67 on:** January 22, 2016, 04:00:28 pm »

Hello World

i hope you are practicing a bit, sorry i was a busy last days but i did some progress in the project...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDQNmos6jXA

HD : http://i67.tinypic.com/24b6zbd.png

all the data displayed in the slider , chat or the chart are live data from the NRS API you can see the rates change in the top slider (follow superBTC)...
only the residents assets and projects will be listed and displayed here... if you are not an NXT3D resident or a sponsor... sorry for you!

we have reached 56000 NXT as total of the donations and reservations from the required amount of 900 euros,

the actual list of the residents is:
- MCoin #50
- abctc #31 for https://nxtex.info
- coretechs #4 for https://nxtportal.org
- lopalcar # 33
- Kora # 30 for Project ORA::XOS
- Riker # 15 Core-Dev private office
- futurist #13 for http://coresocial.club/
- BARR_Official #28 for http://barr.me/
- EvilDave # 16 (not confirmed yet )
- LocoMB # 37
- Ludom #16 for http://nxter.org/

Merchand Store: NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N
Service Name : NXT3D Lands Rental 1 Year
Service ID : 5262690982377691296

EvilDave & Ludom ? what news?

HD: http://i65.tinypic.com/r0rz9s.jpg
i add this picture to show what happen when the trend is inversed, in the, chart the colors change and in the slider , the rate is displayed in green (green = asks , bids are in red in the 2end line)...
Thank you all and @++

futurist · « **Reply #68 on:** January 23, 2016, 08:45:13 am »

Hello OutSL:D
Such a great project, flying under the radar. Would you mind if we (CORE Media) did an article to gain some more exposure?
http://coremedia.info

OutSL · « **Reply #69 on:** January 23, 2016, 09:51:45 am »

Hello World

Quote from: futurist on January 23, 2016, 08:45:13 am

Hello OutSL:D
Such a great project, flying under the radar. Would you mind if we (CORE Media) did an article to gain some more exposure?
http://coremedia.info

yes will be a good thing for the project but is a bad time to do now because we dont have yet where to capture the results... we can start the promo and advertising when our virtual world will be on-line even under construction but not before... there are many people who have money (millions) to do what we try to do but they have no idea about opensim (we have this! but no money... fighting for 900 euros

)... we have to fly under the radar to avoid bad concurrency and interference just the time to be on-line... after that , we will create this concurrency because its one of the ways that nxt will spread through the metaverse and crypto-currency communities

a good timing is one of the keys to the success of any project...

i add your asset to the charts displayer (i have to find a name to this

) and i will add today a teleportation link to each resident project... in a way that just by clicking the link, the avatar will be transported to your virtual office or place... the work still in progress

Thank you all and @++

futurist · « **Reply #70 on:** January 23, 2016, 08:27:59 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 23, 2016, 09:51:45 am

Hello World
Quote from: futurist on January 23, 2016, 08:45:13 am
Hello OutSL:D
Such a great project, flying under the radar. Would you mind if we (CORE Media) did an article to gain some more exposure?
http://coremedia.info

yes will be a good thing for the project but is a bad time to do now because we dont have yet where to capture the results... we can start the promo and advertising when our virtual world will be on-line even under construction but not before... there are many people who have money (millions) to do what we try to do but they have no idea about opensim (we have this! but no money... fighting for 900 euros )... we have to fly under the radar to avoid bad concurrency and interference just the time to be on-line... after that , we will create this concurrency because its one of the ways that nxt will spread through the metaverse and crypto-currency communities
a good timing is one of the keys to the success of any project...

i add your asset to the charts displayer (i have to find a name to this ) and i will add today a teleportation link to each resident project... in a way that just by clicking the link, the avatar will be transported to your virtual office or place... the work still in progress

Thank you all and @++

Ok we'll wait for the right time. Good thinking

OutSL · « **Reply #71 on:** January 28, 2016, 10:46:52 am »

Hello World

last days was really bad... after a test of this viewer, the database was corrupted and i lost time to recover it... all is OK now but was hot

.
https://alchemyviewer.org/pages/about.html (DO NOT USE !)

i did the tour of the dedicated server providers to see if the prices are changed or they have promos... the best choice performance/price still the server that i have selected for the project... i tried the microsoft azure (free offer) but they did not accept my neteller card

Well well

the work is in progress even with the database story and this is a preview of the trading & assets informations zone... textured with dark/grey marble

HD: http://i63.tinypic.com/xeip2x.jpg
new version of the chart displayer...

HD: http://i64.tinypic.com/kcnuj6.jpg
the assets ask/bids slider is now displayed in all the trading zone (2 rooms like this)...

HD: http://i63.tinypic.com/2a6m9fo.jpg
i am working on the texturing of the down level and the exteriors...

we have reached 56000 NXT as total of the donations and reservations from the required amount of 900 euros, i still without news from EvilDave ~~& Ludom~~... lands #16 and 17 are available now!

the actual list of the residents is:
- MCoin #50
- abctc #31 for https://nxtex.info
- coretechs #4 for https://nxtportal.org
- lopalcar # 33
- Kora # 30 for Project ORA::XOS
- Riker # 15 Core-Dev private office
- futurist #13 for http://coresocial.club/
- BARR_Official #28 for http://barr.me/
- LocoMB # 37
- Ludom #16 for http://nxter.org/

Merchand Store: NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N
Service Name : NXT3D Lands Rental 1 Year
Service ID : 5262690982377691296

I repeat it again, if someone wants to be refunded, just ask here, or by MP (like you want)
in the eventuality of the fundraising failure , i will refund all the purchases and the amount of the donation will be used as i indicated (promo and R&D)

Thank you all and @++

Ludom · « **Reply #72 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:50:14 am »

I confirm. We take the number 16.

Sorry evildave

OutSL · « **Reply #73 on:** January 28, 2016, 12:47:12 pm »

Quote from: Ludom on January 28, 2016, 11:50:14 am

I confirm. We take the number 16.

Sorry evildave

Adjugé! Welcome on board

EvilDave · « **Reply #74 on:** January 28, 2016, 10:24:53 pm »

Aw...I wanted 16....but 17 is almost as good

And I really need to get my finger out and give some NXT to OutSL for this.....

OutSL · « **Reply #75 on:** January 29, 2016, 09:53:15 am »

Hello World

Quote from: EvilDave on January 28, 2016, 10:24:53 pm

Aw...I wanted 16....but 17 is almost as good
And I really need to get my finger out and give some NXT to OutSL for this.....

as the Grand Nagus said :

Quote

Pay or Die (*kiss the scepter for a discount)

apenzl · « **Reply #76 on:** January 29, 2016, 12:55:18 pm »

Hi OutSL.

I might be interested in pre-ordering a parcel.

I’m aware of the 3 restrictions, still I’d like to know if I can name the parcel “Guns and Pr0n”.

Let me explain.

I’m a storyteller, and I have a long term project which includes the launch of a game (an ARG).

“Guns and Pr0n” will look like a closed down café from the beginning. Urban-modern style, but with a history. Broken window maybe, some old graffiti on the surface, “not for sale” sticker on top of it. It was built by someone who had big dreams but who didn’t succeed.

The old bastard who own this place should have built it in the entertainment area, or in the trading area, but he happened to love the river, he even built the entrance to the café towards the riverside instead of the crowded street. Such bad business decisions have partly caused his failure. A big dreamer with a bad sense of how to do business. He still follow trades, but honestly, he feels out of luck. He is almost bankrupt.

Still, you can walk into this place and hang out, buy a virtual soda, have a chat, listen to a story from the old days. Maybe there’s a one armed bandit in the corner, where you can play for NXT. So, unsuccessful but cosy, a nice hangout when you’re not trading, full of stories about Nxt, the scammers as well as the succesful businesses of all time. Full of backstory. A place to meet for oldschool nxters, if you happen to know it exists.

My question is: Will this be accepted in the Nxt 3D world?

It should be obvious that what I intend to build is something unique. And that I have no intention of dealing with porn, drugs or any other illegalities from the land. Apart from being an interesting hangout, it WILL also be home of the taboo, the dark stories of bad trades, human failure and tragedy, which I personally believe should be represented (especially) in a virtual world to make it seem more real. “Guns and Pr0n” doesn’t have “Nxt” in its name but it *could* be a place where you can actually get most knowledge of Nxt.

If this Nxt 3D world project succeeds, my game will launch from there. It will take place in other areas of the world as well (and also in RL), but if you visit this closed down “Guns and Pr0n” shop, you can discuss the game progress with others, collect clues, and catch up with the story through the cinema. Until then: Just hang out. Chat. Read a magazine. Choose a song from the jukebox. There will be movie nights. Maybe it could be a good place to pitch your Nxt business idea. A place for small conferences. Play the one armed bandit. We'll see.

If you think the name “Guns and Pr0n” is over the edge, let me know and I’ll think of something else.

I was in love with the green parcel below #1. But I see that green is sold. Maybe #48/49 then, it has a good river-view.
Or maybe (as a local

) you can recommend a better land that would fit into this story? Also, do you think a single parcel will be enough?

/Arthur

OutSL · « **Reply #77 on:** January 29, 2016, 02:30:18 pm »

Hi

your project is near than what i plan to do in the "X" marked in the map:

white: a small port with a bar where avatars can chat ...
Green: a tropical mini club ... it will look more like a large tiki than a modern bulding
blue: is a multi-purpose area with café and terrace
orange: a tavern in the woods surrounded by virtual nature medieval style ...

the size of the project is ~1048Km²! we have space for many things... and with the server that i have selected for the project, we can extend the land area up to x3 with a moderated usages

for the name, if you add " and money" it will be the exact trilogy of the things that i hate in the world, porn= a kind of slavery... money because is the reason of the existance of the others

(joking)

if we was on-line now you will be able to select the best place/template for your project... i will be happy to help your project to start and the opensimulator technology and softwares are a good starting point and very easy to use

per curiosity, i opened today my 6 years old SL account and i found that i can exchange my L$ to fiat (was prohibited before and reserved to authorized members !!!), i still have some L$ (~70$) i will convert and add them to the project's capital

edit : the #1 is the police, coastguard, moderators and helpers office

Thank you all and @++

apenzl · « **Reply #78 on:** January 29, 2016, 04:03:19 pm »

Haha, compared to the X's on your map "Guns and Pr0n" WILL really be a lousy little café. No need to expand it to 2 parcels.

You could use some of the land for hosting open air conferences maybe.
Is it possible to stream video in real time on to a big canvas on the beach, for example?

Anyways, you are right, I should go there and find the best parcel for the project. I'll try to find the time and any start up help will be really appreciated.

/a

OutSL · « **Reply #79 on:** January 29, 2016, 04:34:18 pm »

Quote from: apenzl on January 29, 2016, 04:03:19 pm

Haha, compared to the X's on your map "Guns and Pr0n" WILL really be a lousy little café. No need to expand it to 2 parcels.

You could use some of the land for hosting open air conferences maybe.
Is it possible to stream video in real time on to a big canvas on the beach, for example?

Anyways, you are right, I should go there and find the best parcel for the project. I'll try to find the time and any start up help will be really appreciated.

/a

for the conferences i dedicated 3 or 4 open spaces that the community can use... you can do live conferences with your micro...

Quote

Is it possible to stream video in real time on to a big canvas on the beach, for example?

yes, you can display a websites or videos in a canvas (called: prims or primitives), i did the demo to abctc... we played the presentation video here http://nxt.org/about/ , the same can be used to do live streams too!

Quote

Anyways, you are right, I should go there and find the best parcel for the project. I'll try to find the time and any start up help will be really appreciated.

the project is not on-line yet ! i work on it in my home machine in a closed conditions (private sandbox), i collect the requiered funds for the server with donations and the lands rentals pre-orders... we have now 56000 NXT from 900euros (+~70$ in second life i will confirm this next week)

Thank you and @++

EvilDave · « **Reply #80 on:** January 29, 2016, 11:55:35 pm »

Yay! I have, finally, got round to buying a parcel in the name of Tennessee....the 3000 NXT should be with OutSl right about now.

I also sent an extra donation of 5000 NXT, just to show some appreciation for what OutSL is building here. Thanks, mate.

MCoin · « **Reply #81 on:** January 30, 2016, 08:15:11 am »

I also donated some additional NXT, because I want to see NXT take a shot at becoming the defacto currency used in virtual worlds.

OutSL, did you consider maybe using an existing opensim host e.g. https://www.kitely.com/services ? I don't know if this saves any money, but at least then you save some resources by letting them maintain the Opensim software, and maybe this way can tap into an existing group of users. From the Kitely advertising they "support up to 16 regions, 120,000 objects (AKA "prims"), and 80 concurrent avatars", Hypergrid, and import/export OAR file format, for US$40/month. Is that suitable? Anyway it's only a question, I have not used their service. Maybe you have good reasons to run this project on your own independent server! But I thought this may be worth exploring.

I still have no idea what I would do with the land I already have at #50, perhaps I'll need to donate it to the homeless or set up a wildlife sanctuary

I am glad that some real NXT businesses are supporting your idea. Thanks for keeping us updated!

OutSL · « **Reply #82 on:** January 30, 2016, 10:15:42 am »

Hello World

Quote from: EvilDave on January 29, 2016, 11:55:35 pm

Yay! I have, finally, got round to buying a parcel in the name of Tennessee....the 3000 NXT should be with OutSl right about now.

I also sent an extra donation of 5000 NXT, just to show some appreciation for what OutSL is building here. Thanks, mate.

Thank you EvilDave and welcome on board

Quote from: MCoin on January 30, 2016, 08:15:11 am

I also donated some additional NXT, because I want to see NXT take a shot at becoming the defacto currency used in virtual worlds.

OutSL, did you consider maybe using an existing opensim host e.g. https://www.kitely.com/services ? I don't know if this saves any money, but at least then you save some resources by letting them maintain the Opensim software, and maybe this way can tap into an existing group of users. From the Kitely advertising they "support up to 16 regions, 120,000 objects (AKA "prims"), and 80 concurrent avatars", Hypergrid, and import/export OAR file format, for US$40/month. Is that suitable? Anyway it's only a question, I have not used their service. Maybe you have good reasons to run this project on your own independent server! But I thought this may be worth exploring.

I still have no idea what I would do with the land I already have at #50, perhaps I'll need to donate it to the homeless or set up a wildlife sanctuary

I am glad that some real NXT businesses are supporting your idea. Thanks for keeping us updated!

you are now our biggest donator and sponsor

thank you MCoin !
for the opensim hosting, is not a good idea for many reasons... the most importants are that you dont have the access to the console or the server settings files (not god); the grid owners will have access to some sensible data like the wallet passphrases in the LSL scripts... backdoors; we cant experiment advenced things using the NRS in the server ... (like second life you get what you have in the client side, no more)

our project must survive to the 1st year and survive to us! the logical next step is converting the project to an opensim hosting provider (business plan above)... but using NXT as currency and it's technology to power the inworld business activity

with your donations and pre-orders we are now at 83000NXT ~600€ at coinimal (0.0074€/NXT) + my ~70$ from SL we are really near

Thank you all and @++

MCoin · « **Reply #83 on:** January 30, 2016, 10:25:42 am »

Quote from: OutSL on January 30, 2016, 10:15:42 am

for the opensim hosting, is not a good idea for many reasons... the most importants are that you dont have the access to the console or the server settings files (not god); the grid owners will have access to some sensible data like the wallet passphrases in the LSL scripts... backdoors; we cant experiment advenced things using the NRS in the server ... (like second life you get what you have in the client side, no more)

Thanks for answering that point! These seem like good reasons you need an independent web server.

Glad to donate, as I'm not sure what else I can offer. Maybe some chance will come in future. For now I will sit back and watch the magic happen (hopefully)

EvilDave · « **Reply #84 on:** January 30, 2016, 11:10:00 am »

No worries, OutSL...let's see if we can make the last of the funding happen.

If I've got the numbers right, you still need €250 to make this go boom.......around 35,000 NXT according to my calculations.

So, guys and girls of the Nxt community: buy yourselves a nice spot in the sun today !

OutSL · « **Reply #85 on:** January 30, 2016, 10:09:26 pm »

Hi again

Quote from: EvilDave on January 30, 2016, 11:10:00 am

No worries, OutSL...let's see if we can make the last of the funding happen.

If I've got the numbers right, you still need €250 to make this go boom.......around 35,000 NXT according to my calculations.

So, guys and girls of the Nxt community: buy yourselves a nice spot in the sun today !

yes we have at now 83000 NXT and i wait monday to exchange my L$ to fiat (to avoid WE delays) that will add ~70$ to the capital, the total is ~650€ from 900€

the project account are :
donations box : NXT-PC8Q-ZW86-7UYK-CC4XJ
merchand account : NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N

the actual list of the residents is:
- MCoin #50
- abctc #31 for https://nxtex.info
- coretechs#4 for https://nxtportal.org
- lopalcar# 33
- Kora #30 for Project ORA::XOS
- Riker #15 Core-Dev private office
- futurist #13 for http://coresocial.club/
- BARR_Official #28 for http://barr.me/
- EvilDave #16 (not confirmed yet )
- LocoMB #37
- Ludom #16 for http://nxter.org/
- EvilDave #17 for the [TNNSE] Tennessee project

Merchand Store: NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N
Service Name : NXT3D Lands Rental 1 Year
Service ID : 5262690982377691296

Thank you all and @++

apenzl · « **Reply #86 on:** January 31, 2016, 02:28:43 am »

Quote from: OutSL on January 30, 2016, 10:09:26 pm

yes we have at now 83000 NXT and i wait monday to exchange my L$ to fiat (to avoid WE delays) that will add ~70$ to the capital, the total is ~650€ from 900€

Good news!

So, will you dumb the NXT for fiat when you reach the goal of €900 ?

OutSL · « **Reply #87 on:** January 31, 2016, 11:24:41 am »

Hello World

Quote from: apenzl on January 31, 2016, 02:28:43 am

Quote from: OutSL on January 30, 2016, 10:09:26 pm
yes we have at now 83000 NXT and i wait monday to exchange my L$ to fiat (to avoid WE delays) that will add ~70$ to the capital, the total is ~650€ from 900€

Good news!

So, will you dumb the NXT for fiat when you reach the goal of €900 ?

yes, our deadline is this amount and 900€ are the server cost (~860€) plus a small margin to cover the commissions and fees, the plan is transparent and clear you can calculate the costs and the available capital:
server:
https://www.soyoustart.com/fr/offres/e3-sat-2.xml
cost Including Windows Server 2012 Standard, domain name and the setup fees...
the project account are :
donations box : NXT-PC8Q-ZW86-7UYK-CC4XJ
merchand account : NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N
+ ~70$ from SL but i am not sure because nothing is clear with LindenLab and SL... i will confirm this when i will have this amount outside my second life account...

i hope the rates will jump at the level that we dont need more purchases or donations for the server

the lands price is ~20$ for 1 year of 3D hosting in an innovative concept mixing the virtual worlds technologies and the crypto-currencies technologies... that will be and bring new thing in both worlds (success factors!)
Note: in addition to the 20$ land price you will need to invest from 5 to 10$ for a building... i will help each one to setup the things from A to Z.

Thank you all and @++

Freebieservers · « **Reply #88 on:** January 31, 2016, 07:14:00 pm »

Hey,

We would like to buy 8 plots of land - on a monthly rental basis.
If there is further real-estate available, we'd be keen on buying more.

Edit : If no plots are available, we will be willing to buy some from others, on a monthly, contractual basis.

Regards
-Team Freebie

Freebieservers · « **Reply #89 on:** January 31, 2016, 07:53:54 pm »

Follow up :

Kuro (Freebie CTO) has offered to fund half the server's expense and host it himself. You may use half the funds for further expansion of the project. We are also willing to allocate further resources in case we can be of assistance. This project is in line with gaming and we take a keen interest in what you are building.

Do let me know if you'd be interested.

Regards
-(On behalf of Kuro)

apenzl · « **Reply #90 on:** February 01, 2016, 09:40:24 am »

Hi again, OutSL

Sounds cool.

I'd like to pre-order #20.
Can I pay for it with SuperBTC (I like the idea of not selling NXT for fiat)?

Regards
/Arthur

OutSL · « **Reply #91 on:** February 01, 2016, 10:28:26 am »

Hello World

Quote from: Freebieservers on January 31, 2016, 07:14:00 pm

Hey,

We would like to buy 8 plots of land - on a monthly rental basis.
If there is further real-estate available, we'd be keen on buying more.

Edit : If no plots are available, we will be willing to buy some from others, on a monthly, contractual basis.

Regards
-Team Freebie

Unfortunately, this offer is to raise the funds required for the server, i can not make monthly rentals because i will pay the server per year (per 5 years in the business plan)

Quote from: Freebieservers on January 31, 2016, 07:53:54 pm

Follow up :

Kuro (Freebie CTO) has offered to fund half the server's expense and host it himself. You may use half the funds for further expansion of the project. We are also willing to allocate further resources in case we can be of assistance. This project is in line with gaming and we take a keen interest in what you are building.

Do let me know if you'd be interested.

Regards
-(On behalf of Kuro)

OpenSimulator does not like inexperienced hands and does not forgive mistakes... a simple mishandling can have catastrophic consequences ...
in addition the server requires regular maintenance and constant monitoring

the fact is, if the creation of a virtual world can be a one men show, its management and moderation can not. so I thought a delegate certain parts of the internal activity as the resale of lands to companies or investors ...

Currently, we do not have alot of land purchases because people can not understand the nature of this technology and how it can be beneficial to the individuals as to the whole community. but once online, people will be able to try and learn and lands demand for projects and personal uses will increase by default ...

if you want to invest in my project, here's what I propose: buy all the available lands now and resell them later for 3500NXT or rent them monthly. this will enable us to pay the server to be online and will allow you to practice in real conditions...

when i feel that you can manage the thing alone and ready for the next, i will provide you a full regions with more powers and rights for ~5$ each (project running cost/the number of the available regions)... you can for example create an Land-on-Demand offer and resell the m² (called SQM) at 0.25NXT/m² or subdivide it as fixed size offers like i did with the actual lands offer
a standard region size is 256m x 256m = 65536m² (x0.25NXT)...

the real challenge in this project is to create a self-sustaining micro-economy using available technologies (OpenSimulator & NXT)... and the excess will be reinvested or distributed as dividends if the project evoluate to the business plan...

Thank you and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #92 on:** February 01, 2016, 10:37:33 am »

Hi

Quote from: apenzl on February 01, 2016, 09:40:24 am

Hi again, OutSL

Sounds cool.

I'd like to pre-order #20.
Can I pay for it with SuperBTC (I like the idea of not selling NXT for fiat)?

Regards
/Arthur

thank you to join our adventure

its ok for the #20 but only NXT is accepted in the marketplace

if you can convert your superBTC to NXT will be nice

@++

Freebieservers · « **Reply #93 on:** February 01, 2016, 11:36:46 am »

Quote from: OutSL on February 01, 2016, 10:28:26 am

Hello World
Quote from: Freebieservers on January 31, 2016, 07:14:00 pm
Hey,

We would like to buy 8 plots of land - on a monthly rental basis.
If there is further real-estate available, we'd be keen on buying more.

Edit : If no plots are available, we will be willing to buy some from others, on a monthly, contractual basis.

Regards
-Team Freebie

Unfortunately, this offer is to raise the funds required for the server, i can not make monthly rentals because i will pay the server per year (per 5 years in the business plan)

Quote from: Freebieservers on January 31, 2016, 07:53:54 pm
Follow up :

Kuro (Freebie CTO) has offered to fund half the server's expense and host it himself. You may use half the funds for further expansion of the project. We are also willing to allocate further resources in case we can be of assistance. This project is in line with gaming and we take a keen interest in what you are building.

Do let me know if you'd be interested.

Regards
-(On behalf of Kuro)

OpenSimulator does not like inexperienced hands and does not forgive mistakes... a simple mishandling can have catastrophic consequences ...
in addition the server requires regular maintenance and constant monitoring

the fact is, if the creation of a virtual world can be a one men show, its management and moderation can not. so I thought a delegate certain parts of the internal activity as the resale of lands to companies or investors ...

Currently, we do not have alot of land purchases because people can not understand the nature of this technology and how it can be beneficial to the individuals as to the whole community. but once online, people will be able to try and learn and lands demand for projects and personal uses will increase by default ...

if you want to invest in my project, here's what I propose: buy all the available lands now and resell them later for 3500NXT or rent them monthly. this will enable us to pay the server to be online and will allow you to practice in real conditions...

when i feel that you can manage the thing alone and ready for the next, i will provide you a full regions with more powers and rights for ~5$ each (project running cost/the number of the available regions)... you can for example create an Land-on-Demand offer and resell the m² (called SQM) at 0.25NXT/m² or subdivide it as fixed size offers like i did with the actual lands offer
a standard region size is 256m x 256m = 65536m² (x0.25NXT)...

the real challenge in this project is to create a self-sustaining micro-economy using available technologies (OpenSimulator & NXT)... and the excess will be reinvested or distributed as dividends if the project evoluate to the business plan...

Thank you and @++

Hey,

Its unfortunate to know we cannot acquire plots on a monthly basis.
Regarding the server - we do not have the interest, manual resources or expertise to take on this on ourselves. Our only offer was for the server. This is because as part of our projects we maintain a high number of servers at our disposal round the clock and don't mind accommodating another project at a highly subsidised rate. You are free to do whatever you want with the project. We'll only be hosting you and have no interest in doing anything more for you at the current stage of our business. Instead of spending the 900 Euro's at a business that takes fiat - you might spend 450 with one that takes nxt and use the 450 for other needs of your business.

Regards

apenzl · « **Reply #94 on:** February 01, 2016, 12:01:25 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on February 01, 2016, 10:37:33 am

thank you to join our adventure its ok for the #20 but only NXT is accepted in the marketplace if you can convert your superBTC to NXT will be nice

@++

I got NXT. I'm just trying to avoid that you sell them

By transferring SuperBTC with an unencrypted msg ("pre-order payment for parcel #20"-ish) to you marketplace account, the payment would be documented in your account ledger / the Nxt blockchain. But no, of course not as a marketplace buy order.

Regards,
/Arthur

OutSL · « **Reply #95 on:** February 01, 2016, 12:56:23 pm »

Quote from: Freebieservers on February 01, 2016, 11:36:46 am

Hey,

Its unfortunate to know we cannot acquire plots on a monthly basis.
Regarding the server - we do not have the interest, manual resources or expertise to take on this on ourselves. Our only offer was for the server. This is because as part of our projects we maintain a high number of servers at our disposal round the clock and don't mind accommodating another project at a highly subsidised rate. You are free to do whatever you want with the project. We'll only be hosting you and have no interest in doing anything more for you at the current stage of our business. Instead of spending the 900 Euro's at a business that takes fiat - you might spend 450 with one that takes nxt and use the 450 for other needs of your business.

Regards

please, do not take my post as a rejection on my part, i remain open to all constructive proposals, if you think your business can offer me better service than http://ovh.com/ , please give me some links to lean about your infrastructure.
if you have some servers under the hand, you can do like this projects and earn some additional money with your infrastructure:
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/category/vendors/

the opensimulator software is free and open source:
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Main_Page

the client software is free and open source :
http://www.firestormviewer.org/about/
http://www.firestormviewer.org/downloads/
(versions: for opensim & SL)

in my mind the first goals are the community virtual world and create a business model based on NXT for the metaverse. renting lands is just a way not the goal...
Thank you and @++

Ludom · « **Reply #96 on:** February 01, 2016, 04:53:38 pm »

I propose to buy 8 spots for Freebieservers and rent them monthly. But only if it arranges you both.

This project is interesting and I want to help.

I'm really curious about your business plan. You speak about 5 years. You speak about possibility to buy spots and sell it more expensive later. But we don't see the long term project, we can't project us in the future and invest.

If I understand, buying a spot or create a venture on your Virtual World can be profitable but how ?

Personally, your project gives me much ideas (as Apenzl). But I need more information to prepare my ideas to become reality.

Freebieservers · « **Reply #97 on:** February 01, 2016, 06:31:25 pm »

Is there any way we can converse via skype / slack ?
I'd appreciate if we could.

Regards

OutSL · « **Reply #98 on:** February 02, 2016, 12:21:21 am »

Hi

Quote from: Freebieservers on February 01, 2016, 06:31:25 pm

Is there any way we can converse via skype / slack ?
I'd appreciate if we could.

Regards

yes why not! but we will use firestorm and converse into a virtual world

in this way it will be easy for me to explain the benefits of this technology and what can bring to the community, i will hold a meeting today around 19h GMT, you can log on and ask questions via the chat or voice... this is the way:
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=10626.msg206432#msg206432

Thank you and @++

Freebieservers · « **Reply #99 on:** February 02, 2016, 06:37:17 am »

Hey,

Discussed about this with the team a little bit and thought of your business model in general. I run an asset here (freebieservers) - for about 18 months now and have paid a number of dividends since last April. We are in the process of expanding to a transactional system with a sister concern (Gamebet.gg). I have run a freemium game enterprise and I've been in the community for a while, so am going to offer some insights from my time here. You are free to take it or leave it.

1. Your "plots" are only as valuable as the number of people in the game. Ad slots on google and facebook are as valuable as the willingness of individuals to buy items listed there as ads. By selling plots - you have taken a smart approach to monetising early on, but if people don't come to your game, its literally worth nothing. So please do focus on getting users / gamers on board. When you do, please release stats so that potential advertisers know what they are paying for.

2. At peak times, freebieservers hosts close to 10,000 micro-game servers over a month's time frame. Our server administrator has a decade's worth of experience in meddling with servers and we are well beyond confident that we can give you exactly what OVH offers at half the rate. Again, this is not in terms of a sales interest, but rather to help a fellow business thrive within the ecosystem here. It will probably take 2 hours tops for the team to pull off what's being done, but running a simulator is not our business and we are not looking to diversify that. In that context, it remains in our best interest to work with a business that's already laying a strong footprint in the area.

3. It is indeed smart of you to accomodate for server expenses for a year's worth of time, but I'd ask you to revamp your business strategy/tweak it a bit more to grab more users. In addition, I urge you to use the extra 450 for ...something more productive than passing it on to a server company.

I am not sure I will be able to make it for the "meeting" today, but if we can have more formal lines of communication, in a private fashion, I'd be glad to run you through our infrastructure.

Regards

OutSL · « **Reply #100 on:** February 02, 2016, 03:47:34 pm »

Hello World

I feel in your answers as if you were offended or disturbed by mine, if that is the case please accept my apology, it is the fault of my poor english that leaves to misunderstanding... love & peace

thank you to talk about my initiative with your team, is important for me and the project to get multiple feedbacks and opinions from all sides but its evident that you miss some informations about opensimulator and its usages...

Quote

1. Your "plots" are only as valuable as the number of people in the game. Ad slots on google and facebook are as valuable as the willingness of individuals to buy items listed there as ads. By selling plots - you have taken a smart approach to monetising early on, but if people don't come to your game, its literally worth nothing. So please do focus on getting users / gamers on board. When you do, please release stats so that potential advertisers know what they are paying for.

you have right, you underlined two important points, the number and source of the members and ways to monetize the project. but you have to know, that there are several ways to configure OpenSimulator and the opensim instances can be interconnected in a way as if all the instances form a single entity called the hypergrid or the metaverse... our project will be exposed to the metaverse and people from other grids or instances can travel and use our virtual world without local registrations... our residents can travel too into the hypergrid to visit the other virtual worlds and promote the NXT

... imagine if some guys from counter strike jump to minecraft and kill someone, in return guys from minecraft jump to counter strike for a vengence

this is the hypergrid!
in other terms, we dont need a local members asset to run an economy into the virtual world. the metaverse users are ~1 million with ~35000 daily active users...

the second important points are the value and the monetization :
First, virtual worlds are not games! what is known and habitual as patterns of monetization for games are not applicable for the virtual worlds because those have their own methods...
in 2012, linden lab with its virtual world second life did 500 millions dollars as business volume, this volume was only generated by the items sales, lands rentals and other services between the users... yes! half billion dollar as sales of textures, data and rights

in general the value of a land is relative to the environement where is and we have something new because at now do not exist a virtual world dedicated to a crypto-currency or a virtual world offring other business usages and technologies than the existant ones... for example the majority of the business virtual worlds are like a giant shops where creators sell them works but at now i never saw a virtual world how is the 3D representation of websites and companies... things like this affect the land value and prices inworld!
our trading palace will be the first trading place in the metaverse and the first trading place powred by the NXT technology
work in progress

HD: http://i66.tinypic.com/8why8g.jpg

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2. At peak times, freebieservers hosts close to 10,000 micro-game servers over a month's time frame. Our server administrator has a decade's worth of experience in meddling with servers and we are well beyond confident that we can give you exactly what OVH offers at half the rate. Again, this is not in terms of a sales interest, but rather to help a fellow business thrive within the ecosystem here. It will probably take 2 hours tops for the team to pull off what's being done, but running a simulator is not our business and we are not looking to diversify that. In that context, it remains in our best interest to work with a business that's already laying a strong footprint in the area.

3. It is indeed smart of you to accomodate for server expenses for a year's worth of time, but I'd ask you to revamp your business strategy/tweak it a bit more to grab more users. In addition, I urge you to use the extra 450 for ...something more productive than passing it on to a server company.

again you have right, the spirit and the goal of my initiative are the stimulation of the NXT ecosystem by creating a kind of bridge (a metaverse node under the NXT flag)... for me the priority goes always to the companies that work with or on-top of the NXT network because this project is bulit for you , to promote your companies, assets, projects and activities into the metaverse...

i just need some technical info like your CPUs , RAM and the bandwidth because in opensim all the virtual world elements are on the server side and not like the games in the installed clients (game maps)...
for my instance a minimal of : windows server , 2 cores +2Ghz , 16Go ram and the max possible bandwidth is required for the hard drive even 120go is good, an SSD is the best...

what do you think about an adoption ? you provide me the requiered infrastructure for free and in it i will build the community virtual world , at the end you will keep the financial returns like the rentals and advertising incomes... just dont forget me when you become the next bill gates with this

please try to connect today for the meeting, will be easy for me to explain the benefits of this technology ... and this can be a great way to provide technical support and after sales service to your own customers in an innovative concept ... outside the scope of NXT

Thank you and @++

Freebieservers · « **Reply #101 on:** February 02, 2016, 06:05:36 pm »

We can offer an i7 box with 32 gb Ram and a 512 gb SSD.
Network speeds of 100Mbps and a 10Tb bandwidth.

Let me know if that works.

Regards

OutSL · « **Reply #102 on:** February 02, 2016, 06:59:44 pm »

Hi

Quote from: Freebieservers on February 02, 2016, 06:05:36 pm

We can offer an i7 box with 32 gb Ram and a 512 gb SSD.
Network speeds of 100Mbps and a 10Tb bandwidth.

Let me know if that works.

Regards

yes this configuration is fine but for the bandwidth limitation i dont know an avatar can eat at 350kbps when move or do things inworld but if he sit on a chair the used bandwidth ~60kbps... with this ratio we can host at 300 avatars in same time or less in better conditions... an unlimited bandwidth will be fine if possible

is for free ? how much for this configuration?

we are in the osgrid sandbox now if you want to join us

Thank you and @++

Freebieservers · « **Reply #103 on:** February 02, 2016, 07:03:17 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on February 02, 2016, 06:59:44 pm

Hi
Quote from: Freebieservers on February 02, 2016, 06:05:36 pm
We can offer an i7 box with 32 gb Ram and a 512 gb SSD.
Network speeds of 100Mbps and a 10Tb bandwidth.

Let me know if that works.

Regards

yes this configuration is fine but for the bandwidth limitation i dont know an avatar can eat at 350kbps when move or do things inworld but if he sit on a chair the used bandwidth ~60kbps... with this ratio we can host at 300 avatars in same time or less in better conditions... an unlimited bandwidth will be fine if possible
is for free ? how much for this configuration?

we are in the osgrid sandbox now if you want to join us
Thank you and @++

Well,

As stated earlier, I might not be able to make it for the meeting, but if we can talk via a mainstream chat line (skype, telegram, slack,w/e) - I'd be glad to converse and find a solution that works best with you.

Regards

OutSL · « **Reply #104 on:** February 02, 2016, 08:27:41 pm »

Hi again

Was a nice meeting even with 4 peoples

thank you for your presence and @++

Freebieservers · « **Reply #105 on:** February 02, 2016, 08:52:39 pm »

Just confirmed : We can probably increase the bandwidth limit.
For the nth time (and probably the last) - let me know what is a good way to converse.

Regards

OutSL · « **Reply #106 on:** February 02, 2016, 09:41:59 pm »

Quote from: Freebieservers on February 02, 2016, 08:52:39 pm

Just confirmed : We can probably increase the bandwidth limit.
For the nth time (and probably the last) - let me know what is a good way to converse.

Regards

i organized this meeting especially for you but unfortunately you did not join us

,
the present persons are my sponsors and residents... people that have the final word in this change of plan...

happy to know about the limit incrase, this is an important thing to know about opensim: more bandwidth and CPU/RAM you have, more are the avatars that you can host in same time and more regions can be add... better experience for the end-users
the best ratio is 2go for windows and opensim instance + 1go/region as RAM , for the CPU 1 core per instance is recommanded (+1 cores for windows)...

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For the nth time (and probably the last) - let me know what is a good way to converse.

For the nth time i (and probably never the last) - install firestorm and register in OsGrid like i recommanded you and welcome in any day you want after 18h GMT

(i cant connect from my job before)

Thank you and @++

notinlimbo · « **Reply #107 on:** February 03, 2016, 12:31:39 am »

Quote from: OutSL on February 02, 2016, 09:41:59 pm

Quote from: Freebieservers on February 02, 2016, 08:52:39 pm
Just confirmed : We can probably increase the bandwidth limit.
For the nth time (and probably the last) - let me know what is a good way to converse.

Regards
i organized this meeting especially for you but unfortunately you did not join us ,
the present persons are my sponsors and residents... people that have the final word in this change of plan...

happy to know about the limit incrase, this is an important thing to know about opensim: more bandwidth and CPU/RAM you have, more are the avatars that you can host in same time and more regions can be add... better experience for the end-users
the best ratio is 2go for windows and opensim instance + 1go/region as RAM , for the CPU 1 core per instance is recommanded (+1 cores for windows)...

Quote
For the nth time (and probably the last) - let me know what is a good way to converse.
For the nth time i (and probably never the last) - install firestorm and register in OsGrid like i recommanded you and welcome in any day you want after 18h GMT (i cant connect from my job before)

Thank you and @++

I don't think you understand, not everyone has a computer capable of running firestorm,
furthermore even if he does, its completely insane for you to expect a business meeting to be conducted in a game.

if this project is serious at all you should get discord running.

MCoin · « **Reply #108 on:** February 03, 2016, 02:08:31 am »

Quote from: notinlimbo on February 03, 2016, 12:31:39 am

I don't think you understand, not everyone has a computer capable of running firestorm,
furthermore even if he does, its completely insane for you to expect a business meeting to be conducted in a game.

if this project is serious at all you should get discord running.

I agree with this too. I think Freebieserver's generous offer was to help provide the server, and has no interest or requirement to attend meetings within the virtual world itself.
It's too much to ask them to install the Firestorm Viewer software and learn it, when all they want to do is use (skype, telegram, slack,w/e) to discuss server requirements direct with OutSL. So I hope OutSL will get in touch with them with a mainstream communications channel, as requested

EDIT: Maybe an idea to set up an NXT3D channel in the Supernet Slack?

I was glad to notice some great early promo in CORE magazine new issue: http://joom.ag/cQUp Looks great!

http://imgur.com/P26DVGZ

LocoMB · « **Reply #109 on:** February 03, 2016, 07:37:03 am »

Quote from: notinlimbo on February 03, 2016, 12:31:39 am

I don't think you understand, not everyone has a computer capable of running firestorm,
furthermore even if he does, its completely insane for you to expect a business meeting to be conducted in a game.

if this project is serious at all you should get discord running.

Sorry if I have to correct you there, but OpenSim is not a game, and it is absolutely not insane at all to conduct a business meeting in such an instance.
In fact, businesses have been doing that for years now.

Let me paste the first few lines from wikipedia entry of second life for you:

[29]
American Apparel opened a branch inside the virtual world selling digital renderings of clothing modeled after real-life merchandise.[30]
American Cancer Society has held a version of its Relay For Life national fundraising event inside Second Life.[31]
Axel Springer AG together with Build. T-Online, have produced a tabloid-style newspaper for Second Life, The AvaStar in December 2006.[citation needed] AvaStar Island was built by Aimee Weber.[citation needed]]ABN AMRO Bank has opened a virtual branch in Second Life.
Adidas Reebok have created a permanent presence in Second Life.[28][29]
American Apparel opened a branch inside the virtual world selling digital renderings of clothing modeled after real-life merchandise.[30]
American Cancer Society has held a version of its Relay For Life national fundraising event inside Second Life.[31]

Now how insane are these then, according to your definition of insane?

Furthermore, the Firestorm viewer is easy to run, mature, and requires less resources than a high end game does.

You expect gamers to run the game clients, but OpenSim users are overwhelmed with running the OpenSim viewer?

And since I am not a gamer- can you please inform me what 'discord' is?

MCoin · « **Reply #110 on:** February 03, 2016, 08:02:31 am »

I shouldn't speak for others but pretty sure notinlimbo intended to refer only to this particular meeting. Conducting meetings in Opensim makes complete sense if the participants are familiar with it or willing to put time into learning the complex interface, and would make perfect sense for future NXT3D project meetings.

In any case, I'm sure they will arrive at a satisfactory tool for this particular discussion.

Freebieservers · « **Reply #111 on:** February 03, 2016, 11:00:20 am »

Hey,

Nice example of confirmation bias there. You've pointed out ONE example of a thing happening and chosen to ignore the millions of instances where meetings are held elsewhere. Ofcourse, I believe in the power of using alternate lines of communication. As a matter of fact, I fantasize about board meetings in the middle of Sahara and the Amazon. As a matter of fact, at freebie - its common practice to have long hours of rise of nations and CS:GO to calm ourselves and think of alternate product lines. Having that said, I believe it is neither professional nor apt to ask me to download software which may or may not be complicated when all am trying to have is a simple conversation. We could even discuss this via PM's if needed. All information the OP needed is posted in the thread too, so I find little or no need to basically connect to the said game. Usually, am not an ass about my time or investment of resources, but when am trying to help, amidst a tight schedule and along list of pending work, I'd appreciate if the counterparty would have the basic manners of being accomodative of my request. I wouldn't mind if it were simple software like Mumble or ts3 too.

That said, am not looking to have my ego come in the way of a collaboration. I might make it for the meeting today.
However, if I don't , feel free to connect through alternate mediums.

As for discord - it is the leading utility for collaboration and discussions used by gamers. Its like slack, for the gaming demographic.
More information here : www.discordapp.com

Regards
Regards

OutSL · « **Reply #112 on:** February 03, 2016, 12:23:34 pm »

Hello World

@Freebieservers
sorry to tell you this but i am forced to decline your offer, i received alot of warnings and red flags messages from my residents, sponsors and even people that have no connection with the project
please understand, this project is the community project , if the community said no , is no

i have absolutely nothing against you and you have never did something wrong with me and i find your offer really great but i can not go against the will of the people who paid and supported the project financially... really sorry

the goal of these meetings is to show how easy is to use firestorm and how it can be used for the daily communications and the exchange of data and information ... for my residents is the opportunity to ask questions and learn how to do things... we have to do more meetings and travel a bit into the metaverse.
if you have a bit of time try the hunt here its a good way to visit places in the metaverse... maybe you will earn something:
http://tanglegrid.net/treasure-hunters/index.php

open firestorm first and connect to OsGrid like you did before to travel use this regions list:
http://tanglegrid.net/treasure-hunters/grid.php

Click the

to open the hunting points pages and click the region link. first time this will display an application selection window, select firestorm in the list and active the case to remember the choice and that it

next time when you click the link will open the destination infos in firestorm... just click teleport at down and voilà

Thank you all and @++

Freebieservers · « **Reply #113 on:** February 03, 2016, 01:13:37 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on February 03, 2016, 12:23:34 pm

Hello World

@Freebieservers
sorry to tell you this but i am forced to decline your offer, i received alot of warnings and red flags messages from my residents, sponsors and even people that have no connection with the project
please understand, this project is the community project , if the community said no , is no
i have absolutely nothing against you and you have never did something wrong with me and i find your offer really great but i can not go against the will of the people who paid and supported the project financially... really sorry

the goal of these meetings is to show how easy is to use firestorm and how it can be used for the daily communications and the exchange of data and information ... for my residents is the opportunity to ask questions and learn how to do things... we have to do more meetings and travel a bit into the metaverse.
if you have a bit of time try the hunt here its a good way to visit places in the metaverse... maybe you will earn something:
http://tanglegrid.net/treasure-hunters/index.php

open firestorm first and connect to OsGrid like you did before to travel use this regions list:
http://tanglegrid.net/treasure-hunters/grid.php

Click the to open the hunting points pages and click the region link. first time this will display an application selection window, select firestorm in the list and active the case to remember the choice and that it next time when you click the link will open the destination infos in firestorm... just click teleport at down and voilà

Thank you all and @++

Cool

OutSL · « **Reply #114 on:** February 04, 2016, 09:34:09 pm »

Hello World

now i am back to my regular job, i can work only 3h per day (after 18h GMT) in the project but the things are in progress

HD: http://i68.tinypic.com/15f5g7d.jpg

the work i've done between yesterday and now is not noticeable because is at the scale of the virtual millimeter and centimeter, i readjusted and finalized all the walkways between buildings and prepared the ground to put the vegetation and landscapes. i also reworked the columns as it were somewhat poorly done... using "hexagone 2.5" a part of the daz3D studio:
http://www.daz3d.com/

move like real flags

Thank you all and @++

futurist · « **Reply #115 on:** February 04, 2016, 10:44:47 pm »

Quote from: MCoin on February 03, 2016, 02:08:31 am

Quote from: notinlimbo on February 03, 2016, 12:31:39 am

I don't think you understand, not everyone has a computer capable of running firestorm,
furthermore even if he does, its completely insane for you to expect a business meeting to be conducted in a game.

if this project is serious at all you should get discord running.

I agree with this too. I think Freebieserver's generous offer was to help provide the server, and has no interest or requirement to attend meetings within the virtual world itself.
It's too much to ask them to install the Firestorm Viewer software and learn it, when all they want to do is use (skype, telegram, slack,w/e) to discuss server requirements direct with OutSL. So I hope OutSL will get in touch with them with a mainstream communications channel, as requested

EDIT: Maybe an idea to set up an NXT3D channel in the Supernet Slack?

I was glad to notice some great early promo in CORE magazine new issue: http://joom.ag/cQUp Looks great! http://imgur.com/P26DVGZ

Hello OutSL. I know we agreed to wait to do an article. I mentioned we should should do an article to our team in the beginning of the month, I forgot to tell them about our discussion about waiting to do it. Cat's out the bag

Mem-ber · « **Reply #116 on:** February 04, 2016, 11:59:57 pm »

Hi OutSL. I want to reserve land for Clubnxt @#29.

Regards

OutSL · « **Reply #117 on:** February 05, 2016, 12:38:37 pm »

Hello World

Quote from: Mem-ber on February 04, 2016, 11:59:57 pm

Hi OutSL. I want to reserve land for Clubnxt @#29.

Regards

its OK for the #29 , our trading region will be the first fully populated

The taxi for the marketplace

Merchand Store: NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N
Service Name : NXT3D Lands Rental 1 Year
Service ID : 5262690982377691296

Thank you and welcome on board

OutSL · « **Reply #118 on:** February 05, 2016, 01:56:00 pm »

Hi

Quote from: futurist on February 04, 2016, 10:44:47 pm

Hello OutSL. I know we agreed to wait to do an article. I mentioned we should should do an article to our team in the beginning of the month, I forgot to tell them about our discussion about waiting to do it. Cat's out the bag

no problem

the promotion phase will begin two months after the launch and opening of the project. before this phase, you have to learn to master the interface and the tools it offers and the uses of your own 3D space and the virtual world general.
the community can connect and learn / use our virtual world too, this will provide to all the basic knowlages and will give a serious advantage over the newcomers... they will be able to help and answer questions if needed

this promotion have a plan and steps too

... we do the virtual meeting to talk about this subjects ! i hope soon we will do a daily meetings when we will be online because i will work on it like i do now (after 18h gmt)... you can connect and ask what you want inworld

Quote

EDIT: Maybe an idea to set up an NXT3D channel in the Supernet Slack?

when the administrators of the supernet will try our virtual world, they will ask to them users to switch to NXT3D

do you know! the majority of the virtual worlds and the metaverse users find the normal web obsolete... something from an medieval era

and even the browsers DEVs are working now to implement WebGL in them browsers... something that we have 15 years ago with the virtual worlds using OpenGL and the viewers (a kind of 3D browser)...

i have some plans for Core and CoreMedia too

Thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #119 on:** February 05, 2016, 07:43:43 pm »

Hi again

this morning

http://i68.tinypic.com/2vwbix3.jpg

this aftrernoon

HD: http://i68.tinypic.com/14jnh5k.jpg

why the NXT flag are down ? who is dead ?
is the future of the NXT as metaverse currency who is dead...
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2016/02/ex-linden-money-man-creates-new-hypergrid-currency/
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2016/02/how-to-use-gloebits/

pfff DEVs said...
@++

OutSL · « **Reply #120 on:** February 05, 2016, 08:16:27 pm »

Quote from: notinlimbo on February 05, 2016, 07:58:02 pm

>Refuses free hosting
>Refuses to meet anywhere but inside virtual world
>Thinks secondlife is played by anyone other than moms

...

>Refuses free hosting from a person or a company with a bad history and reputation

>Refuses to meet anywhere but inside virtual world because the NXT3D is a virtual world project, if you dont want to use , the NXT3D project is not for you too

>Thinks secondlife is played by anyone other than moms...
maybe but i am sure that you even know what secont life is...

please, my polarity is really inversed today, i dont have a place for trolls or manage kids blabla...
i back to purge my negative enregy in prims and 3D items is better for me and you now...

futurist · « **Reply #121 on:** February 05, 2016, 09:10:49 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on February 05, 2016, 01:56:00 pm

i have some plans for Core and CoreMedia too

Looking forward to hearing about this!

futurist · « **Reply #122 on:** February 06, 2016, 01:49:18 am »

Quote from: OutSL on February 05, 2016, 07:43:43 pm

why the NXT flag are down ? who is dead ?
is the future of the NXT as metaverse currency who is dead...
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2016/02/ex-linden-money-man-creates-new-hypergrid-currency/
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2016/02/how-to-use-gloebits/

pfff DEVs said...
@++

NXT > Gloebits

MCoin · « **Reply #123 on:** February 06, 2016, 05:36:24 am »

Quote from: futurist on February 06, 2016, 01:49:18 am

Quote from: OutSL on February 05, 2016, 07:43:43 pm
why the NXT flag are down ? who is dead ?
is the future of the NXT as metaverse currency who is dead...
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2016/02/ex-linden-money-man-creates-new-hypergrid-currency/
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2016/02/how-to-use-gloebits/

pfff DEVs said...
@++
NXT > Gloebits

NXT > Gloebits. I greatly agree!

Some more discussion of this here on the High Fidelity forums (login required).

high-fidelity is an open source metaverse startup created by Philip Rosedale, the original creator of Second Life. What currency they eventually choose is a very important factor.

MCoin · « **Reply #124 on:** February 06, 2016, 05:51:34 am »

Quote from: OutSL on February 05, 2016, 01:56:00 pm

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EDIT: Maybe an idea to set up an NXT3D channel in the Supernet Slack?
when the administrators of the supernet will try our virtual world, they will ask to them users to switch to NXT3D do you know! the majority of the virtual worlds and the metaverse users find the normal web obsolete... something from an medieval era and even the browsers DEVs are working now to implement WebGL in them browsers... something that we have 15 years ago with the virtual worlds using OpenGL and the viewers (a kind of 3D browser)...

I don't think so. But I have to admire your enthusiasm for the 3D platform

After all, bringing NXT to the 3D platform is what your project is about. But I think people will still use 2D for message forums and permanent written record, in combination with the 3D space. 3D is much more immersive, but 2D is still used for sharing written information. So I believe you should start a channel on supernet slack or at least continue to use this forum, even when the 3D world is running. These are just my thoughts and you don't need to take my advice

I don't think the Gloebits announcement should make you lower your flags... Hopefully it will help ~~you~~ the NXT community focus more on what work actually needs to be done.

OutSL · « **Reply #125 on:** February 06, 2016, 12:28:29 pm »

Hello World

Quote from: MCoin on February 06, 2016, 05:36:24 am

Quote from: futurist on February 06, 2016, 01:49:18 am
Quote from: OutSL on February 05, 2016, 07:43:43 pm
why the NXT flag are down ? who is dead ?
is the future of the NXT as metaverse currency who is dead...
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2016/02/ex-linden-money-man-creates-new-hypergrid-currency/
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2016/02/how-to-use-gloebits/

pfff DEVs said...
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NXT > Gloebits

NXT > Gloebits. I greatly agree!

Some more discussion of this here on the High Fidelity forums (login required).

high-fidelity is an open source metaverse startup created by Philip Rosedale, the original creator of Second Life. What currency they eventually choose is a very important factor.

The NXT as cross grids and platforms currency was our best card to introduce the NXT to the metaverse, now with the Gloebits in the scene this card is burned and we dont have something that can really interest the metaverse users... for example:
do you think that the NXT marketplace is > than https://www.kitely.com/market
kitely take 20% per sale as commission if you use US$/paypal and 10% if you use them local currency... that you buy from kitely too... if you give the choice to a metaverse merchand between the NXT and kitely will select kitely even if will cost him or her more...

an other important factor that do NXT <<<<<<< to Gloebits is that:
do you think that the NXT DEVs have the same weight or reputation than the guys how made the L$ currency or https://marketplace.secondlife.com/

for HF i know about this project from its start, if you read again the currency part in them website you will find that is very similar to the NXT with a hidden networked blockchain where the HF server do like the forging here...

Philip Rosedale is for the virtual worlds like satoshi nakamoto is for the cyptos... zeus in the olympe

Quote from: MCoin on February 06, 2016, 05:51:34 am

Quote from: OutSL on February 05, 2016, 01:56:00 pm
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EDIT: Maybe an idea to set up an NXT3D channel in the Supernet Slack?
when the administrators of the supernet will try our virtual world, they will ask to them users to switch to NXT3D do you know! the majority of the virtual worlds and the metaverse users find the normal web obsolete... something from an medieval era and even the browsers DEVs are working now to implement WebGL in them browsers... something that we have 15 years ago with the virtual worlds using OpenGL and the viewers (a kind of 3D browser)...

I don't think so. But I have to admire your enthusiasm for the 3D platform After all, bringing NXT to the 3D platform is what your project is about. But I think people will still use 2D for message forums and permanent written record, in combination with the 3D space. 3D is much more immersive, but 2D is still used for sharing written information. So I believe you should start a channel on supernet slack or at least continue to use this forum, even when the 3D world is running. These are just my thoughts and you don't need to take my advice

I don't think the Gloebits announcement should make you lower your flags... Hopefully it will help ~~you~~ the NXT community focus more on what work actually needs to be done.

yes i agree the 2D normal web is important too, is for this reason the viewers DEVs have add an internal browser in them viewers... for example i can connect to the forum from the virtual world...

the most important thing that will be affected in the positive way is the quality of the contents and the posts... because the trash discussions and the +1 posts happend in the virtual world chat an not in the forum or an other platform, only the important things will be ported to the forum making it the most instructive as possible

for the flags i will use them like an enthusiasm-meter

, on every good news i will add a click to UP and the bad ones a click to the down... for me this project is a personnal challange and like a garden for a gardener the benefit for me is the pleasure to build it and to see it grow ... things like that can not be measured with money...

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I don't think the Gloebits announcement should make you lower your flags... Hopefully it will help ~~you~~ the NXT community focus more on what work actually needs to be done.

i dont want to count how many times I've written an "C# opensim region module" is required for a secured communication with the NRS.
http://dev.gloebit.com/opensim/ (admire people doing money)
instead an opensim NXT module we had trashling and trash side or chain or i dont know what more... and in the DEVs roadmap i dont see something that can serve... even the marketplace products images and illustration are not in it...

in general this will not affect the project progress but will affect the project future... next years..., now the other side mountain become at the everest size and we can forget the business plan because is relative to NXT use into the others virtual worlds... on our side we did at now 543.69€ from 900 at the actual rate

in the enthusiasm-meter, before i was 70% sure that this can sucess, now i am 70% sure that will be a wast of money and ressources because if i dont find a way to collect the next year costs...
i would like to hear the others residents too... maybe a meeting will be better

thank you all and @++

coretechs · « **Reply #126 on:** February 06, 2016, 02:08:04 pm »

You've gotten about as much enthusiasm as the tiny Nxt community can provide. Gloebits is just another centralized virtual currency token that provides no real benefit to the individual; another service provider in control of the users who can rake in fees for providing simple marketplace functions. The article you linked even has this exact quote:

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the only thing missing is the metaverse equivalent of PayPal.

The "advantage" of the experienced SL developers building that system is that they know how to establish a monopoly and tune fees and parameters to maximize profits for themselves. The advantage to using something like Nxt is the fact that it's decentralized and users have complete independence and control of their virtual currency and digital assets. That is much more fitting for an open-source metaverse project, but I wonder if most people are even ready for the responsibility that is required. There is no possibility to reverse transactions because you have no central authority in control of your money, which becomes a problem the minute someone is scammed and has nobody to cry to but themselves.

I see your project as a test platform where people can learn about the differences and advantages of a decentralized platform, with a small community of Nxt users that can help educate them. You have a very cool idea and the support of people here, but it makes no sense for you to hinge that on the ability to raise funds for some expensive mega-server when you could simply put up a lower-spec cheap server and upgrade it later if the project gains momentum and the user base grows. It like the typical startup that blows their initial investment on nice office space and fails in the first year without delivering anything.

OutSL · « **Reply #127 on:** February 06, 2016, 02:44:37 pm »

Quote from: coretechs on February 06, 2016, 02:08:04 pm

You've gotten about as much enthusiasm as the tiny Nxt community can provide. Gloebits is just another centralized virtual currency token that provides no real benefit to the individual; another service provider in control of the users who can rake in fees for providing simple marketplace functions. The article you linked even has this exact quote:
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the only thing missing is the metaverse equivalent of PayPal.

The "advantage" of the experienced SL developers building that system is that they know how to establish a monopoly and tune fees and parameters to maximize profits for themselves. The advantage to using something like Nxt is the fact that it's decentralized and users have complete independence and control of their virtual currency and digital assets. That is much more fitting for an open-source metaverse project, but I wonder if most people are even ready for the responsibility that is required. There is no possibility to reverse transactions because you have no central authority in control of your money, which becomes a problem the minute someone is scammed and has nobody to cry to but themselves.

I see your project as a test platform where people can learn about the differences and advantages of a decentralized platform, with a small community of Nxt users that can help educate them. You have a very cool idea and the support of people here, but it makes no sense for you to hinge that on the ability to raise funds for some expensive mega-server when you could simply put up a lower-spec cheap server and upgrade it later if the project gains momentum and the user base grows. It like the typical startup that blows their initial investment on nice office space and fails in the first year without delivering anything.

i agree, advantages of a decentralized (poorly done) platform is one of our good cards

i do my best to keep in the minds the word NXT where is possible... (see comments)
https://plus.google.com/106115943375300299121/posts/YmNU29rWrJn

for the server cost if i remove the windows from it i think we have this one for 1 year (maybe more , i have to recalculate it) but i dont have no idea about the opensim performances under linux/mono...
in any case the last word is yours, is only after a general OK i will start the exchange of NXT ... purchase the server ...

I just wish you keep in mind that our chances of success are reduced with this new competitor

Thank you and @++

MCoin · « **Reply #128 on:** February 06, 2016, 02:53:22 pm »

Quote from: coretechs on February 06, 2016, 02:08:04 pm

lower-spec cheap server and upgrade it later

I think coretechs has good advice. Why not hire a cheap server (e.g. $10/month Digitalocean), install Opensim on it and call this "NXT TEST WORLD" or so? Use this small world for purposes of developing the "C# opensim region module".. And at the same time, continue gaining attention for the bigger, publicly accessible multi-region project which will showcase NXT projects to the residents of the metaverse ...

OutSL · « **Reply #129 on:** February 06, 2016, 03:26:11 pm »

Quote from: MCoin on February 06, 2016, 02:53:22 pm

Quote from: coretechs on February 06, 2016, 02:08:04 pm
lower-spec cheap server and upgrade it later
I think coretechs has good advice. Why not hire a cheap server (e.g. $10/month Digitalocean), install Opensim on it and call this "NXT TEST WORLD" or so? Use this small world for purposes of developing the "C# opensim region module".. And at the same time, continue gaining attention for the bigger, publicly accessible multi-region project which will showcase NXT projects to the residents of the metaverse ...

yes i agree too, but the Digitalocean offers panel is not good for opensim because the bandwidth is limited and i can get better for less than 10$
http://www.kimsufi.com/fr/serveurs.xml
for the "C# opensim region module" a C# professional developer who is familiar with NRS and opensim is needed and not a server

i think the actual server choice without windows is our best alternative and i think we have its costs with the available funds.
the discussion is open...

Thank you and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #130 on:** February 06, 2016, 05:31:09 pm »

Hi again

just to confirm that with the actual funds and rate we have the server price without windows for 1 year + domain price...

if there are no objections or claims i will launch the operations when the server will be available:
http://www.soyoustart.com/fr/offres/e3-sat-2.xml

Thank you all and @++

LocoMB · « **Reply #131 on:** February 06, 2016, 06:08:26 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on February 06, 2016, 05:31:09 pm

Hi again
just to confirm that with the actual funds and rate we have the server price without windows for 1 year + domain price... if there are no objections or claims i will launch the operations when the server will be available:
http://www.soyoustart.com/fr/offres/e3-sat-2.xml

Thank you all and @++

Hi! When will the next sandbox meeting take place? I would like to join!

I was a bit confused because I thought I had missed how to join the NXT grid instance- until I realized that it is not quite up and running yet. But this is the way to go forward, and I do not see it that negative that someone else is working on some currency solution for the hypergrid. It just shows that there is a genuine use for it.

Currency is our strong point, and while the guys who implement that other thing may have the advantage that they originate from the virtual worlds/2ndLife, NXT has the advantage of being a real currency.

So I do not believe that this card is burned at all- let's see what happens!

Update: I just popped by in the sandbox- and well, it is still there!

OutSL · « **Reply #132 on:** February 06, 2016, 06:43:37 pm »

Quote from: LocoMB on February 06, 2016, 06:08:26 pm

Quote from: OutSL on February 06, 2016, 05:31:09 pm
Hi again
just to confirm that with the actual funds and rate we have the server price without windows for 1 year + domain price... if there are no objections or claims i will launch the operations when the server will be available:
http://www.soyoustart.com/fr/offres/e3-sat-2.xml

Thank you all and @++

Hi! When will the next sandbox meeting take place? I would like to join!

I was a bit confused because I thought I had missed how to join the NXT grid instance- until I realized that it is not quite up and running yet. But this is the way to go forward, and I do not see it that negative that someone else is working on some currency solution for the hypergrid. It just shows that there is a genuine use for it.

Currency is our strong point, and while the guys who implement that other thing may have the advantage that they originate from the virtual worlds/2ndLife, NXT has the advantage of being a real currency.

So I do not believe that this card is burned at all- let's see what happens!

tomorrow afternoon ? 19h GMT i am available all the day in the WEs
maybe next week you will connect to our virtual world

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So I do not believe that this card is burned at all- let's see what happens!

i think too but this is a serious interference in a bad timing and they are not newbies in this! they are doing the things correctly what most worries me... in addition to they have a presentable thing...

Thank you and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #133 on:** February 07, 2016, 04:37:21 pm »

Hello World

meeting today! at 19h GMT in the OsGrid sandbox
a reminder for those how want to join us today, firestorm is a light application 45Mo to download and only take 259 Mo when installed... like firefox or google chrome but the viewers are for the 3D Web...
first step, download and install firestorm in the following link, the version is important!:
http://www.firestormviewer.org/downloads/
Versions : For SL & Opensim 32 bit or 64bit.

next, open a free account in OsGrid (user name in 2 words!):
http://www.osgrid.org/index.php/auth/register

after the registration in the web side run firestorm and at the down in the login bar, select in the "Log into grid" list "OsGrid". when the welcome page will be displayed click at left "Sandbox Plaza" in the menu.
at down type your registred avatar name (2 words separated by space), password and click the login button... you will log in the sandbox, use the keyboard arrows to move... if you want to use the chat type what you want in the chat tab and click enter to post...

i hope more people will join us today, we will talk about important things related to the NXT3D project... maybe this meeting will be the last in a foreign land

a new resident joined us

we are now at 86000NXT

the actual list of the residents is:
- MCoin #50
- abctc #31 for https://nxtex.info
- coretechs#4 for https://nxtportal.org
- lopalcar# 33
- Kora #30 for Project ORA::XOS
- Riker #15 Core-Dev private office
- futurist #13 for http://coresocial.club/
- BARR_Official #28 for http://barr.me/
- EvilDave #16 (not confirmed yet )
- LocoMB #37
- Ludom #16 for http://nxter.org/
- EvilDave #17 for the [TNNSE] Tennessee project
- Mem-ber #29 for Clubnxt

Merchand Store: NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N
Service Name : NXT3D Lands Rental 1 Year
Service ID : 5262690982377691296

maybe this is the last call for the lands at the actual offer !!! surprises next week

Thank you all and @++

LocoMB · « **Reply #134 on:** February 07, 2016, 06:28:22 pm »

hi!

I am in sandbox plaza now! If I am in wrong place, please send me a hint where to go to!

by the way: my avatar looks all patchy- do I need to apply moth powder or so?

OutSL · « **Reply #135 on:** February 07, 2016, 09:04:00 pm »

Hi again

Quote from: LocoMB on February 07, 2016, 06:28:22 pm

hi!

I am in sandbox plaza now! If I am in wrong place, please send me a hint where to go to!

by the way: my avatar looks all patchy- do I need to apply moth powder or so?

this is just one of the strange effects of opensim under linux but easy to fix like you did

We have a new resident onboard

Welcome to apenzl , i hope this experience will be profitable for you intellectually as financially

Thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #136 on:** February 08, 2016, 11:51:31 am »

Hello World

for those who do not understand or have found my reaction regarding Gloebit unpleasant and aggressive, read this:
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2016/02/hosting-firms-grids-split-on-gloebits/

is the NXT that i hoped to see here and not these gloBlaBla , only the PRO marketers understand the importance of this ... after, even if the debate result is negative , all the metaverse (1 million people) know or heard at least 1 time the word "Gloebit", thousands will visit and test ... verily sad to see this happen and to be powerless against this events...
if only we have a presentable marketplace with images or sliders... you know even a stupid CMS shopping cart have images ... we can say "haaaa! nice but more than a simple currency we have a powerful substitute to kitely ..." pfff look like dreams...

i follow this from my phone and office... is nice to see the metaverse dynamics in action

Thank you all and @++

apenzl · « **Reply #137 on:** February 08, 2016, 12:41:18 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on February 08, 2016, 11:51:31 am

if only we have a presentable marketplace with images or sliders... you know even a stupid CMS shopping cart have images ... we can say "haaaa! nice but more than a simple currency we have a powerful substitute to kitely ..." pfff look like dreams...

Have a look at http://www.nxtfreemarket.com / https://freemarketlite.cc/ViewAll.html?setLng=en

It's not directly (or at all) connected to the Nxt Marketplace (DGS) because it was built earlier, using the Nxt AM system.
Still, the project is live, has img uploads, USD asset payment option alongside NXT payments, escrow system (in development), + more.

EvilDave · « **Reply #138 on:** February 08, 2016, 12:45:34 pm »

Interesting article.....might be good to talk to the hypergrid media, get some publicity for OutSL and Nxt there.

I'm still very much an outsider to the hypergrid world, but: competition is good, and Gloebits doesn't have the advantage of being supported by a slightly more 'real world' crypto currency like Nxt, so let's keep on rocking.

How's the funding looking ?

MCoin · « **Reply #139 on:** February 08, 2016, 01:18:27 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on February 08, 2016, 11:51:31 am

if only we have a presentable marketplace with images or sliders... you know even a stupid CMS shopping cart have images ... we can say "haaaa! nice but more than a simple currency we have a powerful substitute to kitely ..." pfff look like dreams...

Another possible option could be the NxtShop mentioned by Tosch110 at https://nxtforum.org/nxt-marketplace/url-www-interface/msg206026/#msg206026

Quote from: Tosch110 on January 14, 2016, 02:11:14 am

It is a PHP Framework, where you just have to enter your NXT RS account (of the Item Seller) and the script will get all the details for you. So you setup the Marketplace Items within NXT. you need a domain, set the accountRS in the config and upload the files.

Then you can modify the html (with your images, texts) and have a finished webpage.

Have a look:

http://nxtpeers.com/nxtShop/

Download here: http://nxtpeers.com/examples.php

Maybe a NXT3D marketplace could be built around this template idea. Only a thought

OutSL · « **Reply #140 on:** February 08, 2016, 01:36:02 pm »

Hi again

Quote from: apenzl on February 08, 2016, 12:41:18 pm

Quote from: OutSL on February 08, 2016, 11:51:31 am
if only we have a presentable marketplace with images or sliders... you know even a stupid CMS shopping cart have images ... we can say "haaaa! nice but more than a simple currency we have a powerful substitute to kitely ..." pfff look like dreams...

Have a look at http://www.nxtfreemarket.com / https://freemarketlite.cc/ViewAll.html?setLng=en

It's not directly (or at all) connected to the Nxt Marketplace (DGS) because it was built earlier, using the Nxt AM system.
Still, the project is live, has img uploads, USD asset payment option alongside NXT payments, escrow system (in development), + more.

the all-in-one is the key and the strong point... i hope in the soon future this will be add to the bulit-in DGS

Quote from: EvilDave on February 08, 2016, 12:45:34 pm

Interesting article.....might be good to talk to the hypergrid media, get some publicity for OutSL and Nxt there.

I'm still very much an outsider to the hypergrid world, but: competition is good, and Gloebits doesn't have the advantage of being supported by a slightly more 'real world' crypto currency like Nxt, so let's keep on rocking.

How's the funding looking ?

we are in the green at the actual rates if i remove the windows server cost and use linux/mono instead

maybe the online boom this week

Quote from: MCoin on February 08, 2016, 01:18:27 pm

Quote from: OutSL on February 08, 2016, 11:51:31 am
if only we have a presentable marketplace with images or sliders... you know even a stupid CMS shopping cart have images ... we can say "haaaa! nice but more than a simple currency we have a powerful substitute to kitely ..." pfff look like dreams...

Another possible option could be the NxtShop mentioned by Tosch110 at https://nxtforum.org/nxt-marketplace/url-www-interface/msg206026/#msg206026

Quote from: Tosch110 on January 14, 2016, 02:11:14 am
It is a PHP Framework, where you just have to enter your NXT RS account (of the Item Seller) and the script will get all the details for you. So you setup the Marketplace Items within NXT. you need a domain, set the accountRS in the config and upload the files.

Then you can modify the html (with your images, texts) and have a finished webpage.

Have a look:

http://nxtpeers.com/nxtShop/

Download here: http://nxtpeers.com/examples.php

Maybe a NXT3D marketplace could be built around this template idea. Only a thought

yes i tested this one too

i will point links to it as merchand tool later... the marketplace is like this in 3D, the merchand have just to provide it's product IDs and images and the vendor will display it's store offers (images) and when clicked its send a call for the product data and render the returns in the chat, the buyer have just to copy/paste the transaction ID to recive its product into the virtual world... you will try it by yourself soon

Thank you and @++

Jean-Luc · « **Reply #141 on:** February 08, 2016, 01:43:42 pm »

Since it is possible to add a prunable message attachment to the digital goods listing transaction, this could be used to upload images, within the 42k limit. They would be pruned after 3 months, but now with archival nodes available and retrieve=true, expired images can be retrieved on demand. This is all client-side work only.

OutSL · « **Reply #142 on:** February 08, 2016, 02:08:31 pm »

Hi

Quote from: Jean-Luc on February 08, 2016, 01:43:42 pm

Since it is possible to add a prunable message attachment to the digital goods listing transaction, this could be used to upload images, within the 42k limit. They would be pruned after 3 months, but now with archival nodes available and retrieve=true, expired images can be retrieved on demand. This is all client-side work only.

a simple input in the offer edition modal where the merchand can copy/paste a simple image link that is displayed as miniatures in the merchand store and in biggest format in the offer modal is sufficient, maybe a mime verification or a sources filter (eg; accept only images from facebook, or tinypic... how have an antivirus...)

the kung-fu above (called zoulou language in the virtual worlds

) is difficult to understand even for me , what about a newcomer from the metaverse ?!?

Thank you and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #143 on:** February 09, 2016, 12:46:16 pm »

Hello World

a server is available in the soyoustart panel, i will exchange the coins this night because i feel it bad regarding the rates and what i read in the forum about the 2.0...

if someone want to be refunded or have objections, please let me know today because there is no undo or playback after the exchange... if all is OK we will be online next 2 days

Thank you all and @++

EvilDave · « **Reply #144 on:** February 09, 2016, 01:58:33 pm »

@OutSL...go for it, mate.
The NXT price is pretty healthy now, and the NXT 2.0 discussion is still in its very early stages, so there's plenty of time to work out the exact details of what 2.0 will bring. Don't start worrying yet.

I'm off to figure how to get FireStorm running.....

OutSL · « **Reply #145 on:** February 11, 2016, 09:04:45 pm »

Hello World

sorry to tell you this but the things are in hold , i did not touched the funds or exchanged to fiat because i start to have serious doubt about the NXT future and its usability... like you know, this project is to promote the NXT and an experiment to stimulate an existing crypto-currency ecosystem with the virtual world technology and an existing virtual economy...

the needs of this virtual economy are simples, a currency with what we can pay for items and services, a marketplace where the creators can expose them works and make them available to all the metaverse users and a simple secured software to handle this 2 parts on all the actual NXT wallet... if i keep shapeshift and the plugins, all the rest can be fully removed...

by reading like you the 2.0 topic, i am sure that the majority of you start to have the same doubts as me regarding the NXT future... maybe the term NXT will mean other thing than that we know today in the 2.0 version era ... just a child chain... 2end role and badlands... economic drama... epsylon value coin... a dead road!

This set me in a dilemma and i suffer from a sort of crisis of conscience that prevents me from launching operations and project because i don't know what i will promote and i will not risk my reputation and my credibility in the metaverse as your trust on me and confidence by recommending something that have a great potential today (1.0) but that will have no value tomorrow (2.0)...

now i face 3 choices or solutions
1- easy and neutral way: I will refund each one and love&peace

2- the challenger way: clone NXT in its current state and try to create a version designed for the metaverse and its uses, it will be a completely independent coin from NXT with just the currency and the marketplace that merits that name... this exceeded my skills! if a Core-Dev wants to start this adventure... will be working more in the removal of unnecessary features or that will never be used than add new ones...
3- start the project even if we all know what is happening and what will happen (red flag

)

Quote from: EvilDave on February 09, 2016, 01:58:33 pm

@OutSL...go for it, mate.
...Don't start worrying yet.

I'm off to figure how to get FireStorm running.....

the fire is already in the home... where do you want me to go for

... i don't know i still F5ing and reading but look like a dead road with nothing and a lot of dramas in the future... is this what you or we want to present or promote to the metaverse ?

For firestorm, the major problems come from the graphic card drivers, maybe an update will fix all this... what is your OS and graphic card?

the work is in progress even with all this story

, i finished the sandbox (where you will learn 3D if this go online) and i am working in the mountain where the conferencing building will be... like i said many times above this is my hobby and its very fun than TV or others entertainments in addition to an personnal challenge

i hope find help to clone NXT because will be very very very interesting financially talking...

please let me know what do you think about all this... if someone want to be refunded feel free to ask! happy that JL posted it's 2.0 topic before the project's lunch...

Thank you all and @++

EvilDave · « **Reply #146 on:** February 11, 2016, 10:19:31 pm »

The NXT 2.0 proposal is simply that: a proposal. Nothing has really been decided yet.....and this is the way that NXT (and most other decentralised organisations) deal with change: endless heated discussion until we reach a consensus. And we will each a consensus, but that's probably going to be a long way down the line, and until that time: nothing will change with Nxt functionality.

There's also the little matter of finding enough dev time to code up Nxt 2.0, even to a TestNet stage.....we're probably looking at 6 months or more before we can even see how the Nxt 2.0 concept functions, and then there will probably be a few more discussions

I'm voting for option 3, anyway. Publish and be damned ! I'd like to see this happen.

Option 2 is also good with me, though slightly less

Anyway, good luck, OutSL.

sadface · « **Reply #147 on:** February 11, 2016, 10:49:57 pm »

i have to disagree with dave.
if you are uncertain you should probably wait a bit and let the 2.0 design proposal sink in. if you can't come to terms with it in maybe a week you're better of dropping the whole thing.
i already see 2.0 happening very close to how it was proposed. the only thing that seems 'allowed' to be discussed is how to distribute fNXT.

MCoin · « **Reply #148 on:** February 11, 2016, 11:13:31 pm »

Which part of the 2.0 proposal interferes with NXT3D? There will always be proposals for changes in the NXT core and I don't see anything in the proposal that stops NXT being the currency used in NXT3D.

OutSL · « **Reply #149 on:** February 12, 2016, 12:01:13 am »

Quote from: EvilDave on February 11, 2016, 10:19:31 pm

The NXT 2.0 proposal is simply that: a proposal. Nothing has really been decided yet.....and this is the way that NXT (and most other decentralised organisations) deal with change: endless heated discussion until we reach a consensus. And we will each a consensus, but that's probably going to be a long way down the line, and until that time: nothing will change with Nxt functionality.

There's also the little matter of finding enough dev time to code up Nxt 2.0, even to a TestNet stage.....we're probably looking at 6 months or more before we can even see how the Nxt 2.0 concept functions, and then there will probably be a few more discussions

I'm voting for option 3, anyway. Publish and be damned ! I'd like to see this happen.

Option 2 is also good with me, though slightly less

Anyway, good luck, OutSL.

i am more for the 2 (3 no problem) for many reasons...
- to avoid the others mistakes like nxtreporting or secureAE...

- remove the risks by removing the relative parts like the encrypted messaging... looks great but you can't tell me this " i am 1000% sure that there is any bit in the messages how are related with a criminal activity, money laundering or even terrorism"... maybe the next 9/11 plans and instructions are already in the blockchain...

and puts all of us as accomplice in the other crimes...
if you want more coins for the forgers , just show the way to any criminal organization... don't need to fNXT or child chains for this

- "the dispersion is the enemy of the evolution" this one of the lessons that i learned from the others mistakes last 20 years in multiple area and business categories... just a simple example, if you implement 10 parts in a software, you have to work in the 10 parts to upgrade the code... but if you had only 2 part where you invest the same time and effort... what level of quality or optimization will be? do you think that the 10 parts software will be better ?
and this was just an example of the dispersion of the efforts... what about an ecosystem with millions $ as capitals dispersed between the AE and MS and the exchanges... can we even talk about an ecosystem? where is the commerce? the merchands? the soul of the economy that their activity is called ecosystem...

the metaverse can bring this kind of economic dynamics but the NXT don't have the requiered quality level in the parts that may interest the metaverse users... and it's future is like dark clouds in the horizon

a cleaned clone with just a currency, an illustrated marketplace, shapeshift and the plugins parts for the add-ons will be perfect and i will be sure at 1000% that the project will not die next hard fork partouz

Thank you and @++

LocoMB · « **Reply #150 on:** February 12, 2016, 06:36:32 am »

I agree with you on the uncertainty part, and I would also advise on option 2 or 3.
on the other hand, this is a very early brainstorming phase for Nxt, and Nxt2.0 is not going to happen for another year.

So if you go with Nxt1.7.5 now, I believe that you will still have the option (meaning: lots of time for adequate preparation) to make a clone of Nxt 1.7.5 and continue with that if it turns out that Nxt2.0 will not be usable for the Metaverse.

I believe that you do not need to decide NOW, but that you will actually have the luxury of choice to either go with the clone variant or upgrade to Nxt2.0 if you are convinced that it is viable for the use case.

So in fact, you have options 2 AND 3 rolled in one, conditional on what is more suitable- I think that is a fairly convenient situation!

OutSL · « **Reply #151 on:** February 14, 2016, 09:45:47 am »

Hello World

just an info point about the evolution of the things;
- the financial part is ready to open fire, i have exchanged the NXT and we got 636.58€ for ~89000 NXT. this money is now in my neteller account after the exchange in coinimal that i found very good service even them high prices and commissions... i sent a question to them support service and got an answer in 10 or 15 minutes in a WE!.
in addition i create a virtual credit card dedicated to the project, will be linked to OVH/soyoustart and serve to manage the project costs in it's own money channel.

the other good news is that by simulating a server purchase i discovred that we dont pay the setup fees for the rental per year

and this do ~50€ as economy!... this money will be invested to purchase high quality stuff for our headquarter

i will inform you about the exact remaining amount when i will complete the purchases... if someone of the residents or donator / sponsors want any kind of proof just ask! i did screenshots when i was working on this

now i am F5ing the server page

... this offer is maybe the best one in the world (performances/price), i am sure there is 100 persons as minimum F5ing the same page now

well well, about the clone, i contacted some devs that have worked on/with the opensim project outside the opensim dev team but the majority are a .NET devs and not java even if the 2 technologies are very similar... was not a good feedback even was interested...

still the freemarket guys if they want to help on this because i dont think that the NXT devs will do... if they add a secured webinterface, a currency to the freemarket software... will have more success and acceptance with the virtual worlds economy and usages than the NXT ecosystem...

is for this kind of thing i said many times before that is important to be online with a practical working proof... i am sure you will understand better when will try the things... maybe you will find better applications of this technology for your real world activity than me

the work is in progress...
Thank you all and @++

blackyblack1 · « **Reply #152 on:** February 14, 2016, 03:11:47 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on February 14, 2016, 09:45:47 am

still the freemarket guys if they want to help on this because i dont think that the NXT devs will do... if they add a secured webinterface, a currency to the freemarket software... will have more success and acceptance with the virtual worlds economy and usages than the NXT ecosystem...

FreeMarket has a secured webinterface and supports currencies (NXTUSD at them moment). Feel free to visit https://freemarketlite.cc to check it.

OutSL · « **Reply #153 on:** February 14, 2016, 03:33:45 pm »

Quote from: blackyblack1 on February 14, 2016, 03:11:47 pm

Quote from: OutSL on February 14, 2016, 09:45:47 am
still the freemarket guys if they want to help on this because i dont think that the NXT devs will do... if they add a secured webinterface, a currency to the freemarket software... will have more success and acceptance with the virtual worlds economy and usages than the NXT ecosystem...
FreeMarket has a secured webinterface and supports currencies (NXTUSD at them moment). Feel free to visit https://freemarketlite.cc to check it.

i was waiting to buy the server and setup the things in the virtual world to contact and show you what we can do with

the vendor that i have already made is perfect to display the products into the virtual world using your own images and data! you can develop a full sales organization with this simple vendor placing it in the other grids as a sort of interactive banner... linked to the relative products pages or merchand store...
do you have an API or something like... ?
Thank you and @++

blackyblack1 · « **Reply #154 on:** February 14, 2016, 05:42:26 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on February 14, 2016, 03:33:45 pm

do you have an API or something like... ?

Yes FreeMarket has an API.

OutSL · « **Reply #155 on:** February 19, 2016, 08:54:22 pm »

Hello World

finally the WE weekend

, sorry I was a bit (a loooot) busy with my job...

I just would like to inform you about the situation ... the OVH soyoustart plan is dead because they tried to do a kind of Ferengi kung fu with me

... when a server was available and i started the purchase operations they redirect me to my country prices panel and this prices comparing with the french prices are:
(the full server price VAT included + setup fees) + local VAT

when i continued the purchase operations i did not found the paypal or a CC button to pay with forcing me to pay with a bank account transfer or by check

...

I opened a support ticket to request information about the means of payment and at now i have not received a response (since monday!)... if this guys do this kung fu even before the purchase and no pre-sale support ?!? what will be the situation if i have technical problems later or any kind of problem?!? ~~OVH & soyoustart~~

the plan B is this offer but find an available server is like winning the lottery

https://www.online.net/fr/serveur-dedie/dedibox-lt
at the end we will get a better server for the same price +/- (5€ margin)... i still F5ing this page, i hope i will get one this WE if available.

In our virtual world i did not big thing this week... i come home tired and too late to get into the edition... i will work on it this weekend too
we have to do a virtual meeting to talk about the last events in the NXT world. maybe our card will not be on this house of cards but in this one :
http://maidsafe.net/safecoin.html
https://safenetwork.wiki/en/Main_Page
https://forum.safenetwork.io/

Thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #156 on:** March 01, 2016, 04:52:30 pm »

Hello World

sorry for my absence this past week, my graphics card died and i was without a computer 4 or 5 days, I changed it last Friday and worked a bit on the project and tadaaaam!
https://nxt3d.net/step-by-step-guide

there is a sandbox and a lot of free stuff to get and practice with! don't hesitate ! all this is yours

Enjoy & @++

abctc · « **Reply #157 on:** March 01, 2016, 05:52:18 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on March 01, 2016, 04:52:30 pm

tadaaaam!
https://nxt3d.net/step-by-step-guide

- thank you!

OutSL · « **Reply #158 on:** March 01, 2016, 07:57:22 pm »

Quote from: abctc on March 01, 2016, 05:52:18 pm

Quote from: OutSL on March 01, 2016, 04:52:30 pm
tadaaaam!
https://nxt3d.net/step-by-step-guide
- thank you!

You are welcome

i am online if you need help or a guide... your lands are waiting

@++

apenzl · « **Reply #159 on:** March 01, 2016, 11:57:35 pm »

+1440!

OutSL · « **Reply #160 on:** March 02, 2016, 07:04:13 pm »

Hello World

i am online if someone want to connect

your taxi : https://nxt3d.net/

Thank you all and @++

coretechs · « **Reply #161 on:** March 02, 2016, 09:51:26 pm »

I will be online to check it out in a few hours.

OutSL · « **Reply #162 on:** March 05, 2016, 10:35:54 am »

Hello World

i am available this weekend for the first assistance and the lands distribution...
your presence and use are important because it will allow me to analyze the server behavior and consumption of the resources under Linux
do not be afraid to damage things because you can not ... and even if, i can restore the things in 5 minutes...

https://nxt3d.net/

The second important thing is the terms of service! . the fact, is you (sponsors and residents) who are the bosses on there and not me! and is you who should fix the law and the home rules... i add a page in the website where you can find a basic text...
https://nxt3d.net/terms-of-services-tos

Note about the progress:
- on the website part i still working on the nebulae template because my version is an old one (1.6 adapted for 2.5)... when installed on the last joomla that return a lot of errors... i am working to fix those and upgrade the template.

i have add a "Warranted Availability" countdown to the website, this estimation of the availability time is relative to the amount of the available money in the project funds and the server cost... this amount of time change each time someone purchase a land or we recive donations or we purchase somthing for the project (not automatic!).

- on the virtual world, i was working more in the server/linux part than the virtual world itself... i uploaded some existing contents... i keep the best and purge the rest...
i have add more usable lands and water worlds (place for boats and water games...). you can see it in the world map here:
https://nxt3d.net/the-nxt3d-map
this map is a live map! if something change into the virtual world it will be displayed in the map...

For the residents who purchased lands , please try to connect soon as possible this weekend to get your land and learn about the land's setups and the security manipulations...

gods and it's creatures be witness, i am doing my part of the deal

Thank you all and @++

apenzl · « **Reply #163 on:** March 05, 2016, 11:00:43 am »

Great work OutSL, following, and I'll join as soon as I can. I'm buried in work for 2 more weeks, but then I'll jump down that rabbit hole for sure and collect my land.

OutSL · « **Reply #164 on:** March 06, 2016, 10:04:29 am »

Hello World

i am online if you need help and assistance on your first steps

the hypergrid travel is tested and OK, you can jump from our virtual world to visit the other virtual worlds using guides like:
http://www.hyperica.com/
http://opensimworld.com/
and visitors from the other grids can visit us too...

i will register our virtual world in this listings when we will have something to show

Thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #165 on:** March 07, 2016, 06:40:12 pm »

Hello World

i am online...
https://nxt3d.net/
@++

futurist · « **Reply #166 on:** March 08, 2016, 06:28:59 am »

Quote from: OutSL on March 07, 2016, 06:40:12 pm

Hello World

i am online...
https://nxt3d.net/
@++

Hello OutSL,
I have created an account and downloaded the software

It's really cool! I have a hard time catching you online here. I think we will gather a lot more interest in our SuperNET slack channel (it's more "real time communication"). http://slackinvite.supernet.org/ Please join us at #core-media. Perhaps our channel can even be integrated with OpenSim

OutSL · « **Reply #167 on:** March 08, 2016, 07:06:16 pm »

Hello World

Quote from: futurist on March 08, 2016, 06:28:59 am

Quote from: OutSL on March 07, 2016, 06:40:12 pm
Hello World

i am online...
https://nxt3d.net/
@++

Hello OutSL,
I have created an account and downloaded the software It's really cool! I have a hard time catching you online here. I think we will gather a lot more interest in our SuperNET slack channel (it's more "real time communication"). http://slackinvite.supernet.org/ Please join us at #core-media. Perhaps our channel can even be integrated with OpenSim

i am online all days after 18:30 gmt to ~22h and all the WE...
our virtual world is giant you have to use the map (CTRL+M) to jump from a place to an other (by double clicking the map) and to see where are the others (green points)... zoom in/out with the mouse scroll...

i will connect next minutes if you need help

Thank you all and @++

futurist · « **Reply #168 on:** March 08, 2016, 09:23:38 pm »

Ok good to know. Thanks for joining our slack channel!

OutSL · « **Reply #169 on:** March 15, 2016, 07:45:13 pm »

Hello World

Our request for the http://corp.vivox.com/ VOIP service was accepted and now the vivox system is enabled and ready in our virtual world !

Vivox is a leader in this area and we was really luky to be accepted ! (for free

)
now we need testers to try the voice chat into the virtual world... please report here if don't work for you or you had a bad quality audio... bad voice chat experience...

the taxi for the newbies

: https://nxt3d.net

Thank you all and @++

MCoin · « **Reply #170 on:** March 18, 2016, 12:13:23 pm »

I created an account, but there's some problems:

Error connecting to the desired location. Try connecting to another region.

OutSL · « **Reply #171 on:** March 19, 2016, 01:25:02 pm »

Hello World

Quote from: MCoin on March 18, 2016, 12:13:23 pm

I created an account, but there's some problems:

Error connecting to the desired location. Try connecting to another region.

sorry was my fault

but its OK now

i was operating a server migration yesterday! i got x2 power for the same price... just an upgrade in the same company offers but the last ones... at the end that costed us 20€ 1 time setup fee for the x2 comuting power

i am working to fix the things this WE... you can connect if you want but keep in mind that i will need to restart the server many times and you will be disconnected for ~10 minutes (reboot or opensim restart time) each restart... bad experience but i need some testers to get more server statistics...

Thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #172 on:** March 20, 2016, 12:35:08 pm »

Hello World

Important!: Update Firestorm to the last version if you have installed the old ones...
Firestorm Dev team have published the last version and is a big fat code change... more stable and requiere less computing power...
http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/firestorm_change_log_4.7.7.48706

the important for NXT that the internal browser based on the QTWebkit was changed to the Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF)... mean now, we can open the wallet in the internal browser !!! and the bug reported here was fixed
https://nxtforum.org/core-development-discussion/compatibility-issues-with-the-unconventional-browsers-%28mobile-tablet-%29/

HD: http://i67.tinypic.com/25su8p1.jpg

For our virtual world, the server migration was done without problems... we are fully online now!
(belive it or no, the files transfert from the old server to the new one ~2.7Go compressed file happend in 14s ! yes 14 seconds!)
we had the 2015 offer version and now we are under this one (2016 offer SSD version) :
https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc

Thank you all and @++

lurker10 · « **Reply #173 on:** March 25, 2016, 08:18:02 am »

Is Cryptocurrency the Bridge Between Meatspace & Virtual Realities?

OutSL · « **Reply #174 on:** March 25, 2016, 10:10:19 pm »

Hello World

Quote from: lurker10 on March 25, 2016, 08:18:02 am

Is Cryptocurrency the Bridge Between Meatspace & Virtual Realities?

Thank you for this video

this is what is said from my first day with NXT... and the NXT3D project is an open sandbox to explore this ways... and selecting opensimulator for this experimentation is not only a technical choice but a legal one too !
exist many technologies and softwares that can serve to run a virtual world like http://unity3d.com/
but in majority are not open source and may lead to legal problems if used with cryptos... (always read the terms of use...)
with opensim , the things are clear as this http://opensimulator.org/wiki/BSD_License ... no problems and no dramas

if you have noted the headset device and the VR in phone subjects... i am happy to tell you that you can connect to our virtual world from your phone too ! (need a good device! OpenGL capable)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lumiyaviewer.lumiya

i did not test or try this phone viewer because i dont have a modern phone... if work for you please report here

Thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #175 on:** March 29, 2016, 04:04:07 pm »

Hello World

where are you ladies and gentlemens ?
really disappointed and demotivated to see that even people who have paid to give life to this project are not registered and do not use it

...

This 2.0 story was like if JL fired the community with a 2.0 photonic torpedo killing the last hopes and the collective enthusiasm starting by this a kind of civil war and the major part of the community preferred to leave the boat instead to fight for their interests... and as collateral effect we have today a community virtual world without a community

the problem is that the both parties have good intentions and want to push this coin and concept to the best as possible but they are in collision and conflict instead to be a force and power the one for the other...

your taxi

: https://nxt3d.net/

Thank you all and @++

LocoMB · « **Reply #176 on:** March 29, 2016, 05:43:34 pm »

indeed! But I will come in and say hello as soon as I can!

Riker · « **Reply #177 on:** March 29, 2016, 05:47:59 pm »

Its nothing to do with JL and 2.0 man. This 3D world takes time to master. I promise to give it a try by the end of week.

Ludom · « **Reply #178 on:** March 29, 2016, 08:18:33 pm »

I'm so sorry. My IRL job take all my time... I really want to visit the 3D virtual world but no time for the moment.

What is the next meeting dates in the virtual world? I really want to come in with other nxters.

MCoin · « **Reply #179 on:** March 31, 2016, 02:59:25 am »

Quote from: OutSL on March 29, 2016, 04:04:07 pm

where are you ladies and gentlemens ?

Apologies I have not had time to spend in NXT3D. I love this project because I have an interest in both NXT and virtual worlds, and know there is a great opportunity for a currency like NXT to be used in Opensim and other platforms. Although I greatly support the NXT3D, I really do not have much free time to spend "in-world".

Quote from: OutSL on November 17, 2015, 04:26:04 pm

Currently, the majority of Grids owners use a module developed by the Tokyo University of Information Sciences, with what, you can creates your own intra-grid currency ... sell it for fiat or use it into the virtual world... but it's not a cross grids currencys! Just local ones... (NXT in the metaverse will be like Euro in europe or the USD in the world... a cross grids currency)

Their work will help to better understand how an implementation can be possible ... can be done just by replacing them local MoneyServer.exe by an NRS and useing NxtLib as connector via HTTP instead of XML-RPC ... this module have it's own database manager that can be used to store some accounts data like the accountsRS and passPhrases...
http://www.nsl.tuis.ac.jp/xoops/modules/xpwiki/?OpenSim%2FMoneyServer&ml_lang=en
http://www.nsl.tuis.ac.jp/xoops/modules/xpwiki/?OpenSim%2FMoneyServer%2FFunctions
http://www.nsl.tuis.ac.jp/svn/opensim/opensim.currency/trunk/OpenSim.Modules.Currency/DTLNSLMoneyModule.cs

I think the single most important focus should be on the development of this NXT<->Opensim Money Module. How is progress doing on this, most important aspect?

Having a multi-sim 3d showcase for NXT is very nice, but the idea that this C# Module would be developed is the main reason I support the project. The working module will make NXT available as currency option that can be used in all the existing Opensim worlds.

Quote from: OutSL on February 06, 2016, 03:26:11 pm

for the "C# opensim region module" a C# professional developer who is familiar with NRS and opensim is needed and not a server

I tried to contact Karl Stiefvater (famous opensim/sl developer), to see if he would be interested. Unfortunately he replied that he thinks it sounds fascinating but he is too busy at the moment. So we need someone else.

You say it should be a C# developer familiar with NXT and Opensim. Who is capable of this work? How can we find the right person(s) to develop this?

OutSL · « **Reply #180 on:** March 31, 2016, 10:24:48 pm »

Hello World

you are welcome when you want and can

we have time but will be nice if you use this edition phase to learn the basics...

Quote from: MCoin on March 31, 2016, 02:59:25 am

...

Quote from: OutSL on November 17, 2015, 04:26:04 pm
Currently, the majority of Grids owners use a module developed by the Tokyo University of Information Sciences, with what, you can creates your own intra-grid currency ... sell it for fiat or use it into the virtual world... but it's not a cross grids currencys! Just local ones... (NXT in the metaverse will be like Euro in europe or the USD in the world... a cross grids currency)

Their work will help to better understand how an implementation can be possible ... can be done just by replacing them local MoneyServer.exe by an NRS and useing NxtLib as connector via HTTP instead of XML-RPC ... this module have it's own database manager that can be used to store some accounts data like the accountsRS and passPhrases...
http://www.nsl.tuis.ac.jp/xoops/modules/xpwiki/?OpenSim%2FMoneyServer&ml_lang=en
http://www.nsl.tuis.ac.jp/xoops/modules/xpwiki/?OpenSim%2FMoneyServer%2FFunctions
http://www.nsl.tuis.ac.jp/svn/opensim/opensim.currency/trunk/OpenSim.Modules.Currency/DTLNSLMoneyModule.cs

I think the single most important focus should be on the development of this NXT<->Opensim Money Module. How is progress doing on this, most important aspect?

Having a multi-sim 3d showcase for NXT is very nice, but the idea that this C# Module would be developed is the main reason I support the project. The working module will make NXT available as currency option that can be used in all the existing Opensim worlds.

Quote from: OutSL on February 06, 2016, 03:26:11 pm
for the "C# opensim region module" a C# professional developer who is familiar with NRS and opensim is needed and not a server

I tried to contact Karl Stiefvater (famous opensim/sl developer), to see if he would be interested. Unfortunately he replied that he thinks it sounds fascinating but he is too busy at the moment. So we need someone else.

You say it should be a C# developer familiar with NXT and Opensim. Who is capable of this work? How can we find the right person(s) to develop this?

I knocked on every door I know and contacted the the best known opensim devs , but all have a regular job that takes up the majority of their time... others (USA) have fear from big brothers and legal problems...

I have already tested a mixture of NSL/DTL with NRS using the LSL language and this is what operates the terminal that I created ... if we replace the NSL/DTL moneyserver.exe with NRS ... we will get our module and NXT system

in my mind, the best team and trilogy is Riker (java , NRS) + NxtSwe (C#, NxtLib) + Photo50 (C# , joomla PHP)
Photo50 is the person who made in the webinterface of opensim based on joomla and this is what we use for our little virtual world... he made too a modified version of the DTL module and he can work on this... but...

Quote

Unfortunately for your money system question, I have to say that I have hard time already to keep current things up2date and more would simply exceed what I can do as a "1 man show" for a basically free component.

Greetz
FoTo50

if Riker and NxtSwe help him to understand how it works and the API stuff may be he will modify it's system to make it work with NRS... with C# or joomla's PHP...
http://www.jopensim.com/jopensim/jopensimmoney (website under renovation)
to contact : http://www.jopensim.com/contact/3-sales-information

Quote from: Ludom on March 29, 2016, 08:18:33 pm

I'm so sorry. My IRL job take all my time... I really want to visit the 3D virtual world but no time for the moment.

What is the next meeting dates in the virtual world? I really want to come in with other nxters.

dear Ludom you can do all the meetings that you want! don't wait me for this... we have a private/public voice chat you can talk with the other avatars into our virtual world... the NXT3D project is a communication service in first place like slake but in 3D and its open to all !!! not only the residents or the NXT Community... feel free to register and use

... if you need something i am at home from ~18h30 and i start to work in something in my local machine or the server... just connect i will join you inworld if i am not already connected...

i have installed the NRS 1.7.5 in our server! we have 1Gbps bandwidth and may be the fastest node in the network but i had some strange side effects (mono use more ram when the NRS is running) and the java process eat ~1.8Go of ram and +15% of the CPU (8C/8T) on ubuntu 14.04... i will play with the 1.8.0e this WE and let you know

Thank you all and @++

Riker · « **Reply #181 on:** April 02, 2016, 07:45:41 pm »

Hi OutSL,

I created my Avatar and entered the NXT3D world.
Installation was smooth, it did took me a few tries to figure that for the 3D world I need to use my first and last name as username and not my "username" but this is documented on your site. Once in, I roamed the place and even flew around to the cliffs and back.
One thing that doesn't work for me is buying NXT, when I click "Buy NXT", I get in response a nice lady avatar telling me "DNS could not resolve the host name" and "please verify that you can connect to the www.secondlife.com" web site. Which I can of course but it doesn't help.
Surely I'm missing something simple ...
Also how can I find "my" office ?

Nice work, riker

Kora · « **Reply #182 on:** April 03, 2016, 10:16:11 am »

Quote from: OutSL on March 29, 2016, 04:04:07 pm

Hello World

where are you ladies and gentlemens ?
really disappointed and demotivated to see that even people who have paid to give life to this project are not registered and do not use it ...

This 2.0 story was like if JL fired the community with a 2.0 photonic torpedo killing the last hopes and the collective enthusiasm starting by this a kind of civil war and the major part of the community preferred to leave the boat instead to fight for their interests... and as collateral effect we have today a community virtual world without a community

the problem is that the both parties have good intentions and want to push this coin and concept to the best as possible but they are in collision and conflict instead to be a force and power the one for the other...

your taxi : https://nxt3d.net/

Thank you all and @++

Please forgive my absence to date OutSL! I have been very busy IRL, and have needed to take a crypto sabbatical to keep my head above water at work and at home. As they say in the classics "I'll be back!", hopefully in the next week or so!

If anyone has ideas for ORA::XOS in NXT3D I'm all ears!

OutSL · « **Reply #183 on:** April 03, 2016, 01:15:48 pm »

Hello World

Quote from: Riker on April 02, 2016, 07:45:41 pm

Hi OutSL,

I created my Avatar and entered the NXT3D world.
Installation was smooth, it did took me a few tries to figure that for the 3D world I need to use my first and last name as username and not my "username" but this is documented on your site. Once in, I roamed the place and even flew around to the cliffs and back.
One thing that doesn't work for me is buying NXT, when I click "Buy NXT", I get in response a nice lady avatar telling me "DNS could not resolve the host name" and "please verify that you can connect to the www.secondlife.com" web site. Which I can of course but it doesn't help.
Surely I'm missing something simple ...
Also how can I find "my" office ?

Nice work, riker

Happy to know

i was here but i disconnected for the diner some minutes before your registration

our virtual world have a 1.5km x 1.5km size and its similar to the real world... mean the virtual meter is relative to the real one and you need the ~ same time to walk 1.5km in both.

The fast way to move is the teleportation using the world map (CTRL+M) or click the map button at the down bar , that open the map window... you can zoom in/out and resize the window... double click a place in the map to teleport... your office is in the north just after the welcome zone buildings... you will see a floating text "Reserved for Riker"... is this one

For the buy NXT button, i disabled the money stuff in the simulator side when i did the server migration and for this reason you get this error in the viewer... when you click, a request is sent to the simulator but the simulator did not answer because the money module (who have to answer to this request) is off and you get the default error page in the purchase window.

after the one-clic-modal implementation i think that we can open a modal inside this window (viewer side dev in c++ !) or make this window open a modal... i have to experiment that and rewrite my prototypes system for this new implementation because is better than the actual one...

Quote from: Kora on April 03, 2016, 10:16:11 am

Please forgive my absence to date OutSL! I have been very busy IRL, and have needed to take a crypto sabbatical to keep my head above water at work and at home. As they say in the classics "I'll be back!", hopefully in the next week or so!

If anyone has ideas for ORA::XOS in NXT3D I'm all ears!

welcome when you can

we have time (~2 years) with the actual server and a money reserve

i divided the funds in 3... 2/3 are for the server and 1/3 for the R&D , items purchases if needed and the side fees like the migration setup fees that cost us 20€...

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If anyone has ideas for ORA::XOS in NXT3D I'm all ears!

the virtual worlds are a users world like the cryoto world... is the users who create the things inworld and every one have its own ideas and applications to the opensim as technology... you have to find your way

but before you have to learn and practice a bit ! and the NXT3D will serve you in your first steps because i setup a learning place "NXT3D Sandbox" and a lot of free items in the "NXT3D 5"... you can use this ressources to learn the basics

i will be inworld this afternoon if you need something

Thank you all and @++

TheWireMaster · « **Reply #184 on:** April 03, 2016, 05:23:57 pm »

Very cool! Nice job!

Had a quick walk around... Will head back now and then!

OutSL · « **Reply #185 on:** April 03, 2016, 05:30:30 pm »

Hi again

Special thanks to Riker for the time that he gived to the project

, he tested some things including the sample script that i had published in the white rabbit topic and how to do a free fall without a parachute

for futurist and yassin your lands are ready to use... i fixed the bug and now you can directly use it and manage it with the parcel managment tools (click right in the ground > about land).

for all the other residents, please register and connect with firestorm a first time even for a minute... just to fully create and store your avatar data... i will setup your lands for each one when done.

Quote from: TheWireMaster on April 03, 2016, 05:23:57 pm

Very cool! Nice job!
Had a quick walk around... Will head back now and then!

welcome when you want

the NXT3D project is your's and not mine and i am working on it like if i was powred by the community encouragements and enthusiasms

Thank you all and @++

LocoMB · « **Reply #186 on:** April 03, 2016, 05:33:53 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on April 03, 2016, 05:30:30 pm

Thank you all and @++

Hi OutSL! Thank you very much for your work, I will hopefully soon be able to get some decorations in place too!

OutSL · « **Reply #187 on:** April 05, 2016, 04:46:38 pm »

Hello World

Quote from: LocoMB on April 03, 2016, 05:33:53 pm

Quote from: OutSL on April 03, 2016, 05:30:30 pm

Thank you all and @++

Hi OutSL! Thank you very much for your work, I will hopefully soon be able to get some decorations in place too!

its me who must thank you for your trust and encouragement and not the inverse

good news related to the opensim DEV

The Diva got an award for it's work and inventions she win 10000$ !
http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2016/03/tides-foundation-opensim-crista-videira-lopes.html#more

this may lead to the idea of hunting prizes for the the NXT foundation funding! we have a good and innovative concept... need just a sexy look and we will be ready for the races

i am working in a video tutorials zone in the web side, i have installed the requiered stuff but i have to watch and select the best up to date youtube tutorial or better! i will create my own dedicated tutorials... this will do some additional advertising for the NXT and NXT3D in youtube...

Thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #188 on:** April 09, 2016, 09:17:00 pm »

Hello World

from now to monday 0 GMT all the community members who register and/or connect will get 1000 free NXT

(virtual ones and not real NXT and just for testing !!!)...
those virtual nxt will serve you to try the local taxes like the textures and the the other virtual world elements uploads, purchase things or gift money to an other avatar... the economy in action

HD: http://i68.tinypic.com/11c5nyr.jpg
Note!: the billion displayed in this picture is just for kidding the world and testing

the real amount of the virtual NXT that will be in circulation will be the same amount deposited by the users... this real NXT will be stored in a forging account in wait for the users withdrawals...

i had some problems with the SSL

converting the let's encrypt .pem to .pfx format does not work... i reported this the problem and left some links here

http://www.nsl.tuis.ac.jp/xoops/modules/d3forum/index.php?topic_id=172
when this SSL problem will be fixed, i will give to each donator and each resident the same amount as them purchases or donations of virtual NXTs

thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #189 on:** April 10, 2016, 02:38:29 pm »

Hello World

i am online if you need help or infos... don't forget to connect today !!! you will get 1000 free NXT

after this free periode ...you will have to pay them for real nxt in 1:1 ratio

thank you all and @++

NxtSwe · « **Reply #190 on:** April 10, 2016, 03:40:34 pm »

I have completely missed this entire topic until now. I'll see if I can connect and see how it looks like later this evening.
Keep it up!

OutSL · « **Reply #191 on:** April 10, 2016, 04:32:30 pm »

Hi

Quote from: NxtSwe on April 10, 2016, 03:40:34 pm

I have completely missed this entire topic until now. I'll see if I can connect and see how it looks like later this evening.
Keep it up!

Welcome when you can, our virtual world is online and ready () for the edition phase

i hope that you got a bit of time to explore the opensimulator code and the NSL/DTL money system... its what is used now and if you write something ... will be tested and used in the NXT3D ... its a dev sandbox too

thank you and @++

LocoMB · « **Reply #192 on:** April 10, 2016, 05:08:20 pm »

sorry about that- tried but didn't get in, I made two accounts but it kept saying: Incomplete Login credentials - check username and password

what am i doing wrong?

Thanks!

OutSL · « **Reply #193 on:** April 10, 2016, 05:22:10 pm »

Quote from: LocoMB on April 10, 2016, 05:08:20 pm

. sec .. didn't read carefully . will check

do you have problems to connect?

NxtSwe · « **Reply #194 on:** April 10, 2016, 05:33:34 pm »

Seems like I cannot connect from the ISP I am using now (public internet). Crap.
Oh well, I'll try when I get home.

LocoMB · « **Reply #195 on:** April 10, 2016, 05:37:22 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on April 10, 2016, 05:22:10 pm

Quote from: LocoMB on April 10, 2016, 05:08:20 pm
. sec .. didn't read carefully . will check
do you have problems to connect?

Yes, the login says 'incomplete' - I am using the info from the confirmatin email:

Username: Koenig
Password: xxxxxxx

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when I use FIrst and Last name of the username, it simply says 'cannot connect'

OutSL · « **Reply #196 on:** April 10, 2016, 05:38:45 pm »

Quote from: NxtSwe on April 10, 2016, 05:33:34 pm

Seems like I cannot connect from the ISP I am using now (public internet). Crap.
Oh well, I'll try when I get home.

no no was a bad setting after an update ! try now but change in the "start at" to "nxt3d home"... will work!
thank you for your registration

LocoMB · « **Reply #197 on:** April 10, 2016, 05:45:51 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on April 10, 2016, 05:38:45 pm

Quote from: NxtSwe on April 10, 2016, 05:33:34 pm
Seems like I cannot connect from the ISP I am using now (public internet). Crap.
Oh well, I'll try when I get home.

no no was a bad setting after an update ! try now but change in the "start at" to "nxt3d home"... will work!
thank you for your registration

sorry I don't seem to get in .. what is a bit weird is taht after trying it, the viewer sets this into the 'Start at' field:

nxt3d home/128/128/0

But myself I only entered 'nxt3d home'

meh.. sorry I need to go.. I will try again tomorrow!

normal login to the web site works by the way..

OutSL · « **Reply #198 on:** April 10, 2016, 07:18:39 pm »

Hi again

Quote from: LocoMB on April 10, 2016, 05:45:51 pm

Quote from: OutSL on April 10, 2016, 05:38:45 pm
Quote from: NxtSwe on April 10, 2016, 05:33:34 pm
Seems like I cannot connect from the ISP I am using now (public internet). Crap.
Oh well, I'll try when I get home.

no no was a bad setting after an update ! try now but change in the "start at" to "nxt3d home"... will work!
thank you for your registration

sorry I don't seem to get in .. what is a bit weird is taht after trying it, the viewer sets this into the 'Start at' field:

nxt3d home/128/128/0

But myself I only entered 'nxt3d home'

meh.. sorry I need to go.. I will try again tomorrow!

normal login to the web site works by the way..

sorry for this problem

i fixed the thing and you can connect using "Home" in the "start at" tab on the viewer
if you want to connect directly to the sandbox change the "start at" to "nxt3d sandbox"

thank you and @++

NxtSwe · « **Reply #199 on:** April 10, 2016, 07:37:04 pm »

I got to walk and fly around, created a box which I could sell for NXT.
The user interface is a bit advanced and requires a bit of learning but it was a cool experience.

Thanx for showing me some of the tricks in the nxt3d world OutSL

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