Topic: [NXT3D] The NXT Community 3D Virtual World (Read 58446 times)

OutSL · « **Reply #40 on:** January 14, 2016, 08:41:26 am »

Hello World

starting an other working day in our virtual world

For our residents: please select a template from the mentioned above and let me know, this is important because i have old J2.5 versions and i have to work a bit on the template to make it working with the last joomla... template adaptations...

please if you have question feel free to ask! i read the forum from the virtual world with the internal browser...
Thank you and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #41 on:** January 14, 2016, 01:35:43 pm »

Hi again

this or this

http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/dominion/?presets=preset2&backgroundlevel=high&bodylevel=high

http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/nebulae/?presets=preset7

you can see the other styles too (top menu)...

thank you and @++
(we can't build a democratic model with sleeping residents... oupsss

)

abctc · « **Reply #42 on:** January 14, 2016, 02:22:06 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 14, 2016, 01:35:43 pm

this or this
http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/dominion/?presets=preset2&backgroundlevel=high&bodylevel=high
http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/nebulae/?presets=preset7

- hi OutSL, thank you for your hard work!

I like nebulae.

OutSL · « **Reply #43 on:** January 14, 2016, 02:51:09 pm »

Quote from: abctc on January 14, 2016, 02:22:06 pm

Quote from: OutSL on January 14, 2016, 01:35:43 pm
this or this
http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/dominion/?presets=preset2&backgroundlevel=high&bodylevel=high
http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/nebulae/?presets=preset7
- hi OutSL, thank you for your hard work!

I like nebulae.

its my 1st choice under the preset 4 (bloody red)... in the website where i used it before i played a bit with it in a way that give a metamorph website with a color (preset) per section on the top menu... and all the section childs and menus follow the section preset in all...

we are 2 votes for nebulae

, in wait for more opinions
@++

OutSL · « **Reply #44 on:** January 15, 2016, 10:23:30 am »

Hello World

head in the clouds and the coffee does not work...

today i rest, may be i will work on it this afternoon... i still have 15 holiday days , i think i can finish in less 2 major parts of the simulation before returning to my job...

it seems as if the rising bubble burst, I have not exchanged NXT because i do not give myself that right! normally every thing related to the community virtual world and decision making must be agreements with all residents and contributors in the community... in a democratic way, voting system...

i dont have head to 3D this day may be i will do some marketing and communication tasks... looking for sponsors...
if you have an NXT based project , please join our initiative

Logically, a project owner that does not investing even 30$ / year for the promotion of their project is a bad businessman and you can consider my project as a kind of skills and credibility filter

Thank you all and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #45 on:** January 15, 2016, 03:00:51 pm »

Hi again

i posted a first call and job offer for the virtual worlds builders and the scripters here:
https://plus.google.com/communities/116284417302234467612/stream/6b866310-03c8-4f29-9383-7b40611541b0?hl=fr

i hope someones will join us soon

Thank you and @++

futurist · « **Reply #46 on:** January 15, 2016, 11:43:56 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 14, 2016, 01:35:43 pm

Hi again
this or this
http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/dominion/?presets=preset2&backgroundlevel=high&bodylevel=high

http://demo.rockettheme.com/live/joomla/nebulae/?presets=preset7

you can see the other styles too (top menu)...

thank you and @++
(we can't build a democratic model with sleeping residents... oupsss )

Nebulae

OutSL · « **Reply #47 on:** January 16, 2016, 01:57:37 pm »

Hello World

I want to share with residents and my readers some thoughts about the project and how things are organized, maybe you will see a roadmap or an actions plan

First, what we are doing?
1- we work together, you with your investments and financing and me with my skills and experience to offer to all crypto-currencies communities an innovative means of communication and information in the form of a virtual world with all the possibilities and technology it offers and under the NXT flag... that will serve to promote the concept and NXT tools in the other cryptos communities...

2- create a showroom or a kind of business model based on the NXT ecosystem compozed with the interactive 3D versions of the residents website or their projects as virtual offices or headquarters ... depending on the project activity... that will serve to promote the concept and NXT tools in the metaverse...

Secondly, what is the situation?
my project is like creating an inter-communities bridge but the difficulty level is like creating a bridge between two mountains. we must first prepare the points of departure and arrival of the bridge ...

on our side, our mountain is the cost of the server and effort it takes to build something presentable and acceptable to all (for this no porn inside)

on the other side of the bridge there is the metaverse and ~ 34,000 daily users and this will require a promotional effort to bring in new visitors and new NXT users

we have reached 53000 NXT as total of the donations and reservations from the required amount of 900 euros,

the actual list of the residents is:
- MCoin #50
- abctc #31 for https://nxtex.info
- coretechs #4 for https://nxtportal.org
- lopalcar # 33
- Kora # 30 for Project ORA::XOS
- Riker # 15 Core-Dev private office
- futurist #13 for http://coresocial.club/
- BARR_Official #28 for http://barr.me/
- EvilDave # 16 (not confirmed yet )
- LocoMB # 37
- Ludom # 17 (not confirmed yet )

Merchand Store: NXT-USKX-8L4P-QJJJ-DSJ7N
Service Name : NXT3D Lands Rental 1 Year
Service ID : 5262690982377691296

To conclude,
I would like to make it clear, if someone wants a refund simply say it without giving any reason, I will refund you without comments

(donators included!)

the work still in progress i am writing the scripts for the google charts and the assets...

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Nebulae

installed and the work is in progress too

Thank you all and @++

abctc · « **Reply #48 on:** January 16, 2016, 02:36:01 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 16, 2016, 01:57:37 pm

... on our side, our mountain is the cost of the server and effort ...

Quote from: OutSL on January 06, 2016, 04:30:58 pm

... Pre-Order intended to raise the funds required for the server whose characteristics and cost are the following: https://www.soyoustart.com/fr/offres/e3-sat-2.xml
cost Including Windows Server 2012 Standard, domain name and the setup fees:
~ 860 Euros let's say 900 (hidden fees and invisible bottom page's stars fees ...)

- please forgive my ignorance, may be it is possible to rent that server (E3-SAT-2) for 6 month? (for the start) So it will be 35€ * 6 + hidden fees...

OutSL · « **Reply #49 on:** January 16, 2016, 03:53:54 pm »

Hi

Quote from: abctc on January 16, 2016, 02:36:01 pm

Quote from: OutSL on January 16, 2016, 01:57:37 pm
... on our side, our mountain is the cost of the server and effort ...
Quote from: OutSL on January 06, 2016, 04:30:58 pm
... Pre-Order intended to raise the funds required for the server whose characteristics and cost are the following: https://www.soyoustart.com/fr/offres/e3-sat-2.xml
cost Including Windows Server 2012 Standard, domain name and the setup fees:
~ 860 Euros let's say 900 (hidden fees and invisible bottom page's stars fees ...)
- please forgive my ignorance, may be it is possible to rent that server (E3-SAT-2) for 6 month? (for the start) So it will be 35€ * 6 + hidden fees...

yes we can get it even for 1 month but its a bad investment for less than 1 year...
we have 3 choices the 3 are on the same company OVH and the best prices that i found:

1- the basic plan using the KS-3B server here:
http://www.kimsufi.com/fr/serveurs.xml
in this server we can't install windows and we will be forced to use a linux OS and running opensim under mono... this is bad because mono eat ressources and your 16Go of ram server will give like a 8Go in performances (~1/2 of the ressources) and only have 100Mbps bandwidth bridled to 10 Mbps if you exceed a certain time of use... we have already the year of this server! maybe more (bad idea to invest here)

2- the middle way plan, is the actual server choice E3-SAT-2
https://www.soyoustart.com/fr/offres/e3-sat-2.xml
Note: soyoustart, kimsufi and OVH are the same !!! just a multiple panels of the same products...
we can't rent it less than 1 year because i will need a minimum of ~2 months (maybe 3) to finish the work on the project, i will open it even under construction and you will be able to connect and learn in real (virtual) conditions, the builders can also teleport from outside to work on the dedicated projects lands... we have to be online!
the next 3 months are for the promotion and just after the 6 months line (more) that we can see if the project have a succes and can evoluate to the business plan with an asset... (or no!) this server can host at 2 times the project size and we can extend it later for more lands and rentals maybe we will get the next year costs from it

3- the business plan:
this plan have a 5 years time frame and requiere 2 SP-32 or MC-32 here:
https://www.ovh.com/fr/serveurs_dedies/
why 5 years? and why not the soyoustart offers? because this ones have 500Mbps instead soyoustart's 250Mbps bandwidth and the 5 years because the major part of the project earning will come from the regions rentals not only lands... in the virtual worlds, the classic scam is the land rentals... if you don't or can't give proofs that you will not desapear next month(s) you will never sell a land or even a single m²

the 2 servers: 1 for the grid and the other for the rentals and this up the starting capital to ~12500$ ... like you see even 900 euros is hardy to collect i got more donations than purchases and i join all in the project capital...

thank you for your questions

if you want more explanation, please feel free to ask! the answers are importants for all the readers
(for info, the OVH prices and offers change from a country to an other! the best prices are in france)
@++

abctc · « **Reply #50 on:** January 16, 2016, 07:26:38 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 16, 2016, 03:53:54 pm

... you see even 900 euros is hardy to collect...

- I think you know the answer:

Quote from: OutSL on January 16, 2016, 03:53:54 pm

in the virtual worlds, the classic scam is the land rentals...

- personally I 100% trust you, but news like this does not encourage people to part with their money.. But if they already saw some working proof ... even "under construction", initially made on a weak server ...

Riker · « **Reply #51 on:** January 16, 2016, 09:20:57 pm »

@OutSL must admit I'm not exactly sure how you are planing to monetize from having businesses rent offices in your opensim environment.
However you seems like a talented guy and it seems that you know something I don't.
The cruel reality is that anyone who is seriously dealing with NXT development, is already over 100% utilized and practically no one is making money at the moment except these whales who are dumping NXT on exchanges all the time.

In order to get businesses to use your application you need to provide real reason for people to invest time in learning your promising solution.
I suggest you start low, and invest as little as you can in servers since chances are that you won't have more than 3 hits a day initially.
I understand that this solution rely on MS .net so don't use Linux use Windows, get the cheapest server you can get and don't rely on the community to finance it, at least not yet. Once you have a real working solution to show and good track record, you'll see that it is much easier to raise funds.

OutSL · « **Reply #52 on:** January 16, 2016, 09:52:35 pm »

Hi again

Thank you abctc

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personally I 100% trust you

this words have more value for me than all the cryptos + all fiat

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but news like this does not encourage people to part with their money...

http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/statistics/most-popular-hypergrid-worlds/
this list is not just a simple list but a glory wall, only survivors are displayed there. the grids and companies that have a solid infrastructure and a management plan...
I aquired my experience learning from mistakes and success of these grids during the last 5 or 6 years, which is why I tried and I always try to start this project with donations or sponsorship instead an commercial offer or a business plan... on failure things are less painful to deal with ... and people never forgive a commercial when fail

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But if they already saw some working proof ... even "under construction", initially made on a weak server ...

The available amount is ~320€ at the actual coinimal rate 0.0062€/NXT (neteller), for me i don't have a problem with the kimsufi servers even if i am a windows user... but we will not be able to extend the project size or add lands, we will not be able to host more than 100 avatars in same time... bad quality voIP= no conferences and public meetings with voice chat... but will work and if the project fail will cost only this amount...

My approach is simple:
- the failure and loss are forbidden words
- if I do not succeed in collecting the funds, I will refund everyone and everyone will be happy with 0 loss.
- if I succeed to raise the necessary funds, I will take the server that will allow me not only to be online in good conditions but also to survive after the first year and we will get our little place in the glory wall

I would like to hear the other residents about that because the last word is always yours

Thank you and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #53 on:** January 16, 2016, 11:05:37 pm »

Quote from: Riker on January 16, 2016, 09:20:57 pm

@OutSL must admit I'm not exactly sure how you are planing to monetize from having businesses rent offices in your opensim environment.
However you seems like a talented guy and it seems that you know something I don't.
The cruel reality is that anyone who is seriously dealing with NXT development, is already over 100% utilized and practically no one is making money at the moment except these whales who are dumping NXT on exchanges all the time.

In order to get businesses to use your application you need to provide real reason for people to invest time in learning your promising solution.
I suggest you start low, and invest as little as you can in servers since chances are that you won't have more than 3 hits a day initially.
I understand that this solution rely on MS .net so don't use Linux use Windows, get the cheapest server you can get and don't rely on the community to finance it, at least not yet. Once you have a real working solution to show and good track record, you'll see that it is much easier to raise funds.

just an idea of monetizing the project... if I put the button "BUY NXT" on the top menu in the pictures and screenshots in the auction or for sale, in your opinion, how much money can bring us the exclusivity?
this button can be configured to open a dedicated page on coinimal or other exchange... the terminal can serve to the inworld delivery of the virtual NXTs...
the sale of land is only one means among many to self-finance the project and the objective in this plan is not earning money ...

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In order to get businesses to use your application you need to provide real reason for people to invest time in learning your promising solution.

please visit each one of this rentals providers take them as example and let me know if you find someone accepting NXT... (yay US! but we are not in the list yet because we dont have lands to sell

)
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/category/vendors/

Opensimulator is not my application !
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/BSD_License

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your promising solution

this project is like the NXT itself is an experimental project, promising something will be like fraud or a scam try and pretend to have the solution for such a complex problem as crypto currency market is a bit exaggerated... i am just a simple human with limited knowledge and ressources and i do what i can because i can... no more

Thank you and @++

OutSL · « **Reply #54 on:** January 17, 2016, 12:27:10 pm »

Hello World

just a question for all:
what kind of charts do you want for the visual data displays? we can use all this panel...
https://developers.google.com/chart/image/docs/gallery/chart_gall

for our residents:
i am thinking to do a virtual meeting where we will talk about all this and help you to understand how it works...
~18h GMT or 19h GMT is ok?

thank you all and @++

LocoMB · « **Reply #55 on:** January 17, 2016, 01:38:28 pm »

hi!

sorry please- where can I get on the chat? will it be in the opensim?

I do not have the viewer installed yet, if I can make it today, can you please post again the connect ip and port, or link to the posting where you have given instructions?

OutSL · « **Reply #56 on:** January 17, 2016, 01:59:28 pm »

Hi

Quote from: LocoMB on January 17, 2016, 01:38:28 pm

hi!

sorry please- where can I get on the chat? will it be in the opensim?

I do not have the viewer installed yet, if I can make it today, can you please post again the connect ip and port, or link to the posting where you have given instructions?

just install the viewer and register in OsGrid, we will use them sandbox because is permitted to create and do things...
http://www.firestormviewer.org/downloads/
Versions : For SL & Opensim 32 bit or 64bit.

open a free account in OsGrid (user name in 2 words!):
http://www.osgrid.org/index.php/auth/register

after the registration in the web side run firestorm and at the down in the login bar, select in the "Log into grid" list "OsGrid". when the welcome page will be displayed click at left "Sandbox Plaza" in the menu. at down type your registred avatar name (2 words separated by space), password and click the login button... you will log in the sandbox, use the keyboard arrows to move... if you want to use the chat type what you want in the chat tab and click enter to post...

this is the 3rd or 4th time that i write this

baaaaad rabbit hunters
to get the setting window click CTRL+P, the building tools CTRL+B, your first reference in the viewer is the help! use it without moderation

Thank you and @++

abctc · « **Reply #57 on:** January 17, 2016, 03:08:43 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 17, 2016, 01:59:28 pm

just install the viewer and register in OsGrid, we will use them sandbox because is permitted to create and do things...
http://www.firestormviewer.org/downloads/
Versions : For SL & Opensim 32 bit or 64bit.

- that page says ...

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Supported Operating Systems
Windows
Windows Vista 32bit SP2 and Vista 64bit SP2 or later are supported.
Earlier versions of windows are not supported.
Firestorm 4.7.5 will NOT even install on Windows XP.
Firestorm 4.7.1 Beta is the latest version to support Windows XP.
Firestorm 4.7.1 Beta will run on Windows XP 32bit SP3 but expect it to be crashy and support cannot help you with this.

... but I can't find 4.7.1 Beta download. I have spent 30 min at firestormviewer.org, wiki.phoenixviewer.com and Google, but in vain. Could you please direct me to 4.7.1 download page? Thanks. And yes, I am rabbit, but not so white to move from WinXP.

OutSL · « **Reply #58 on:** January 17, 2016, 03:23:46 pm »

Quote from: abctc on January 17, 2016, 03:08:43 pm

Quote from: OutSL on January 17, 2016, 01:59:28 pm
just install the viewer and register in OsGrid, we will use them sandbox because is permitted to create and do things...
http://www.firestormviewer.org/downloads/
Versions : For SL & Opensim 32 bit or 64bit.
- that page says ...
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Supported Operating Systems
Windows
Windows Vista 32bit SP2 and Vista 64bit SP2 or later are supported.
Earlier versions of windows are not supported.
Firestorm 4.7.5 will NOT even install on Windows XP.
Firestorm 4.7.1 Beta is the latest version to support Windows XP.
Firestorm 4.7.1 Beta will run on Windows XP 32bit SP3 but expect it to be crashy and support cannot help you with this.
... but I can't find 4.7.1 Beta download. I have spent 30 min at firestormviewer.org, wiki.phoenixviewer.com and Google, but in vain. Could you please direct me to 4.7.1 download page? Thanks. And yes, I am rabbit, but not so white to move from WinXP.

try the version: Firestorm 4.6.9 (42974) Hotfix Release
http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/fs_older_downloads

if firestorm dont work at all , use this viewer
http://www.singularityviewer.org/downloads

i am already in the sandbox

i dont need to be in my server to work the charts, just turn around you will see the NXT logo

abctc · « **Reply #59 on:** January 17, 2016, 05:54:03 pm »

Quote from: OutSL on January 17, 2016, 03:23:46 pm

i am already in the sandbox i dont need to be in my server to work the charts, just turn around you will see the NXT logo

- I'm there (Sandbox Plaza 125, 122, 22) too. Can't see NXT logo.

I see Loco MB though.

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