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MRX

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Make prunable arbitrary messages cheaper!
« on: December 19, 2015, 02:15:54 pm »

1 NXT per message is a lot of money for ordinary chatting. It make sense to ask 1 NXT for stuff that should stay in blockchain forever but if we want NXT to also be used as chat platform then prunable messages should cost much less, let's say 0.1 NXT per message. That way anyone can chat for cheap but not bloat blockchain.
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Re: Make prunable arbitrary messages cheaper!
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2015, 05:58:38 am »

Prunable messages still left 64 bytes at blockchain,and I think you shouldn't use for chatting.
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Re: Make prunable arbitrary messages cheaper!
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2015, 04:06:15 pm »

No cheap encrypted and decentralized chatting = no transaction volume increase thus less cumulative transaction fees for forgers, no chance to attract many people and services who would use such feature and one more existing NXT feature with untapped potential (aliases being the most obvious one).
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Re: Make prunable arbitrary messages cheaper!
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2015, 03:14:42 am »

No cheap encrypted and decentralized chatting = no transaction volume increase thus less cumulative transaction fees for forgers, no chance to attract many people and services who would use such feature and one more existing NXT feature with untapped potential (aliases being the most obvious one).

I'm afraid even reduce cost will not significant increase use case for message.

You see,although cost for per message is always 1NXT,but NXT price is keep falling,so the message use case should increase,but that's not the case.

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Re: Make prunable arbitrary messages cheaper!
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2015, 12:48:29 pm »

OK, so why would someone ever use prunable message if it costs the same as a message that will stay in blockchain forever? If we want less blockchain bloat then it is not enough to simply play on people understanding of the future blockchain size issues, there must be an incentive of some sort and cheaper sending of prunable messages would surely work.
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Re: Make prunable arbitrary messages cheaper!
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2015, 01:11:18 pm »

They're only the same price if they are less than 33 bytes long (in which case they take the same space in the blockchain). If they are 33 bytes long, then prunable costs 1 NXT and non-prunable cost 2 NXT. The price difference is even greater for longer messages.
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Re: Make prunable arbitrary messages cheaper!
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2015, 02:31:54 pm »

Blockchains aren't very suitable (incredibly inefficient) for "chatting" when you can easily use one of the 1000x encrypted chat messaging systems out there. (shameless plug: https://nxtrc.org)

If you want any kind of privacy, you probably don't want a permanent public record of your chat metadata.


« Last Edit: December 23, 2015, 02:36:05 pm by coretechs »
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