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Title: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Tooling2 on May 30, 2014, 03:30:50 pm
I just got nxt wallet. I tried to go to a faucet to get some starting coin and it said Invalid request when I entered my wallet ID. I cant forge, I cant buy, I cant send. Anyone know how I can receive from a faucet? Also do I need to have a public Key to receive? This seems extremely confusing for first timers. ??? any help would be awesome, my ID is 18017640589343434102
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: nCtrl on May 30, 2014, 03:35:10 pm
In order to forge, you need at least one outgoing transaction. You can still receive.
You automatically get a public key when you have an outgoing transaction, to do so either send 1 NXT to yourself, create an alias, send a message.
Keep in mind that you will not be able to forge until the outgoing transaction has at least 1440 confirmations.
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: forkedchain on May 30, 2014, 03:35:45 pm
does anyone know why this change was done?  I know you used to be able to forge w/o having a public key, and your first forged block generated this key.  but not anymore
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: nCtrl on May 30, 2014, 03:37:14 pm
You still get a public key by forging a block, but it is highly unpractical. If you have 10 NXT you would have to wait ages until you get to forge a block.
Having a public key also boosts your account protection from 64-bit to 256-bit entropy, so definitely good to do it as soon as possible.
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Tooling2 on May 30, 2014, 03:38:08 pm
how do i go about getting my first Nxt?
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: VanBreuk on May 30, 2014, 03:38:13 pm
You didn't say which faucet you were trying, but in any case, I just sent you 10 NXT. With that you can do a first transaction and your account will receive a public key.
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Tosch110 on May 30, 2014, 03:39:50 pm
I just got nxt wallet. I tried to go to a faucet to get some starting coin and it said Invalid request when I entered my wallet ID. I cant forge, I cant buy, I cant send. Anyone know how I can receive from a faucet? Also do I need to have a public Key to receive? This seems extremely confusing for first timers. ??? any help would be awesome, my ID is 18017640589343434102

I guess you are using freenxt.org since this is the only nxt faucet right now as far as i know.

You can contact me or info@freenxt.org . You can also click to get payed out anyway to a new account (see referrals)
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Tooling2 on May 30, 2014, 03:41:38 pm
how long do transactions usually take?
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Tosch110 on May 30, 2014, 03:42:33 pm
just some minutes
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: VanBreuk on May 30, 2014, 03:43:49 pm
how long do transactions usually take?

Depends on the block. Some blocks are less than a minute, others can take a few minutes. But the transaction I sent to 18017640589343434102 already has several confirmations in my client.

Is your wallet blockchain fully downloaded?
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Tosch110 on May 30, 2014, 03:43:55 pm
how long do transactions usually take?

you should have received your nxt already, type in your account here:

http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=100000
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Tooling2 on May 30, 2014, 03:44:02 pm
Ok i got my first 10 thanks, will be making outgoing asap!
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on May 30, 2014, 03:45:26 pm
does anyone know why this change was done?

That was added in one of the steps to TF. It's necessary for TF to get rid of an attack vector.
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Tosch110 on May 30, 2014, 03:47:15 pm
does anyone know why this change was done?

That was added in one of the steps to TF. It's necessary for TF to get rid of an attack vector.

Dont you already verify that its your account with forging? Why the extra addition of using a public key?
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Tooling2 on May 30, 2014, 03:52:32 pm
should i make a lot of transactions or just 1 to start until i can start forging?
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on May 30, 2014, 03:59:22 pm
Dont you already verify that its your account with forging? Why the extra addition of using a public key?

The peers must know public keys of forging accounts in advance. If u don't reveal ur public key and then suddenly add a forged block then u break normal forging queue. This is why 1440 blocks delay was added.
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on May 30, 2014, 03:59:51 pm
should i make a lot of transactions or just 1 to start until i can start forging?

Just 1 and wait until it gets 1440 confirmations.
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: VanBreuk on May 30, 2014, 04:00:13 pm
should i make a lot of transactions or just 1 to start until i can start forging?

Once you make your first transaction (register alias, send 1 NXT, set your account name, a message...) the network knows you and you'll have a public key. Then, once your first incoming NXT have received 1440 confirmations, which takes around 1 day and a half or two at the most, your balance will become effective and you can turn on forging.

Please note that if you want to forge in order to actually gain transaction fees, it's not going to happen with just a few NXT.

Personally, and for as long as you have few NXT, I'd forget about forging and explore the community and the Nxt features.
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Tosch110 on May 30, 2014, 04:00:45 pm
Dont you already verify that its your account with forging? Why the extra addition of using a public key?

The peers must know public keys of forging accounts in advance. If u don't reveal ur public key and then suddenly add a forged block then u break normal forging queue. This is why 1440 blocks delay was added.

ok, thx
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Tooling2 on May 30, 2014, 04:04:29 pm
thank you guys for all the help! much appreciated!
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: Nxter on May 30, 2014, 04:06:19 pm
Welcome Nxter!    :D
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: ApolloE on August 16, 2014, 07:20:27 pm
Hello,
I am a new member and i just start with NxT Cryptocurrency.
Can anyone could help me to avoid with that message when i am try to forge?

Thanks
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: joefox on August 16, 2014, 07:52:32 pm

Hello,
I am a new member and i just start with NxT Cryptocurrency.
Can anyone could help me to avoid with that message when i am try to forge?

Thanks

No problem!

First, you have to send at least one outgoing transaction in order to get a public key. The easiest way to do that is to set your account name (click the "no name set" text in the upper left area of the client).

Second, before you can forge, you have to have at least some coins that have been in your account for 1440 blocks -- 40 hours or so.

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: ApolloE on August 16, 2014, 08:24:26 pm
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: georgeas on September 14, 2014, 07:48:31 pm
Well I downloaded this nxt thing and installed it, I waited, while it was downloading the block I looked at how to set up a node, was gettin into it till I learned I can't do anything without a transaction and my wallet is at zero LOL

Very frustrating indeed !!!

So I go learn I need a faucet, I find nxtra.org/faucet/ it is down,broken whatever, I come to this forum and read about freenxt.org/ I sign up and try to enter my public key and it won't remember it (very poor programming) I give up and log out, I try to log back in and it says wrong password. Perhaps this was why it didn't remember but at that point there was no error given (very poor programming) there is no password recovery option (very poor programming)

So I came here and registered and read a bit, saw the owner of freenxt posting (perhaps he'll fix my log in ?)

I guess I'm asking if someone here would sent me a coin or nxt or what ever you call it so I can send it back to em ? so I can see this thing work and decide if I want to continue? I was all ready to pimp this at my forum (yes I own a forum) but with how difficult it is to get started I think I'll wait?

IMO it should come with 1 coin built in say for joining, I'm sure there is some reason (security) that it doesn't? In lieu of this it should allow a way to transmit the public key or there should be more faucets? Hell I would run a faucet if that would help? I already downloaded the php source from nxtra.

my NXT-VMA4-KLYQ-KC35-395XR

can someone please help?
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: TeamWealth on September 15, 2014, 04:14:26 am
Well I downloaded this nxt thing and installed it, I waited, while it was downloading the block I looked at how to set up a node, was gettin into it till I learned I can't do anything without a transaction and my wallet is at zero LOL

Very frustrating indeed !!!

So I go learn I need a faucet, I find nxtra.org/faucet/ it is down,broken whatever, I come to this forum and read about freenxt.org/ I sign up and try to enter my public key and it won't remember it (very poor programming) I give up and log out, I try to log back in and it says wrong password. Perhaps this was why it didn't remember but at that point there was no error given (very poor programming) there is no password recovery option (very poor programming)

So I came here and registered and read a bit, saw the owner of freenxt posting (perhaps he'll fix my log in ?)

I guess I'm asking if someone here would sent me a coin or nxt or what ever you call it so I can send it back to em ? so I can see this thing work and decide if I want to continue? I was all ready to pimp this at my forum (yes I own a forum) but with how difficult it is to get started I think I'll wait?

IMO it should come with 1 coin built in say for joining, I'm sure there is some reason (security) that it doesn't? In lieu of this it should allow a way to transmit the public key or there should be more faucets? Hell I would run a faucet if that would help? I already downloaded the php source from nxtra.

my NXT-VMA4-KLYQ-KC35-395XR

can someone please help?

Hello, welcome to NXT!

It really is not all that hard if you understand a few basics. I am not sure what you mean about it "forgetting" the public key or anything, So i am not able to help you there. If you mean the website or the NXT software then that would help improve things. There is a finite amount of NXT total, all of them already exist and are owned by someone, So it is not possible to give every account one NXT, That defeats the purpose of the entire system anyway, Its so your private key is the only thing that has spending authority over your account on the blockchain.

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In lieu of this it should allow a way to transmit the public key or there should be more faucets

The moment you get your first NXT transmitted to you is the moment that you also gain the public key on the block chain, It is done this way to require the account to have a corresponding private key which unlocks the account already found otherwise people could send NXT to a account with no private key in existence and they would be lost until a private key is found that unlocks it.

Another faucet in order to get people started in the NXT ecosystem can never hurt, Although you dont necessarily need a faucet for it. Any exchange can also do this or any person sending your first transaction.

I would be happy to send you a few NXT to get you started, however to begin with i need you to post your public key here in order for me to be able to send it to be included in the blockchain so your account is verified to be able to be opened with your corresponding private key.
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: georgeas on September 15, 2014, 10:40:26 pm
Well I downloaded this nxt thing and installed it, I waited, while it was downloading the block I looked at how to set up a node, was gettin into it till I learned I can't do anything without a transaction and my wallet is at zero LOL

Very frustrating indeed !!!

So I go learn I need a faucet, I find nxtra.org/faucet/ it is down,broken whatever, I come to this forum and read about freenxt.org/ I sign up and try to enter my public key and it won't remember it (very poor programming) I give up and log out, I try to log back in and it says wrong password. Perhaps this was why it didn't remember but at that point there was no error given (very poor programming) there is no password recovery option (very poor programming)

So I came here and registered and read a bit, saw the owner of freenxt posting (perhaps he'll fix my log in ?)

I guess I'm asking if someone here would sent me a coin or nxt or what ever you call it so I can send it back to em ? so I can see this thing work and decide if I want to continue? I was all ready to pimp this at my forum (yes I own a forum) but with how difficult it is to get started I think I'll wait?

IMO it should come with 1 coin built in say for joining, I'm sure there is some reason (security) that it doesn't? In lieu of this it should allow a way to transmit the public key or there should be more faucets? Hell I would run a faucet if that would help? I already downloaded the php source from nxtra.

my NXT-VMA4-KLYQ-KC35-395XR

can someone please help?

Hello, welcome to NXT!

It really is not all that hard if you understand a few basics. I am not sure what you mean about it "forgetting" the public key or anything, So i am not able to help you there. If you mean the website or the NXT software then that would help improve things. There is a finite amount of NXT total, all of them already exist and are owned by someone, So it is not possible to give every account one NXT, That defeats the purpose of the entire system anyway, Its so your private key is the only thing that has spending authority over your account on the blockchain.

Quote
In lieu of this it should allow a way to transmit the public key or there should be more faucets

The moment you get your first NXT transmitted to you is the moment that you also gain the public key on the block chain, It is done this way to require the account to have a corresponding private key which unlocks the account already found otherwise people could send NXT to a account with no private key in existence and they would be lost until a private key is found that unlocks it.

Another faucet in order to get people started in the NXT ecosystem can never hurt, Although you dont necessarily need a faucet for it. Any exchange can also do this or any person sending your first transaction.

I would be happy to send you a few NXT to get you started, however to begin with i need you to post your public key here in order for me to be able to send it to be included in the blockchain so your account is verified to be able to be opened with your corresponding private key.

Thank you for the offer !!! I was able to get it in by using this  ://jaft.pw/key  to send a message
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: jwiz168 on January 22, 2015, 01:01:56 am
You didn't say which faucet you were trying, but in any case, I just sent you 10 NXT. With that you can do a first transaction and your account will receive a public key.


Hi

Iam just new here and dont have my public key to transfer my nxt from exchange to my wallet. Can you spare me enough nxt to generate my public key .

My nxt address is NXT-T62H-C6E3-4UCV-EHK84 thank you

Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: kseistrup on January 22, 2015, 06:35:56 am
Iam just new here and dont have my public key to transfer my nxt from exchange to my wallet. Can you spare me enough nxt to generate my public key .

My nxt address is NXT-T62H-C6E3-4UCV-EHK84 thank you

You can initialize your account here: http://jnxt.org/key/

And you can get a few NXT on the ”new” faucet: http://nxtfaucet.org/

You can find your pubkey in the NRS client on the “Account Balance” tab when you press “More info →”.

Cheers.
Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: lucky88888 on January 22, 2015, 09:21:44 am
You didn't say which faucet you were trying, but in any case, I just sent you 10 NXT. With that you can do a first transaction and your account will receive a public key.


Hi

Iam just new here and dont have my public key to transfer my nxt from exchange to my wallet. Can you spare me enough nxt to generate my public key .

My nxt address is NXT-T62H-C6E3-4UCV-EHK84 thank you


Hi, nxt has changed the way how it handles public key since the above posts that you replied to.
Now you must provide your public key from your account in the client before you can receive your first transaction. Just look in the client after you "LOGGED IN".
This is a one time event that is required for all new nxt accounts.

If you still can't find it, please let us know and we can show you.

Title: Re: You cannot forge because your account has no public key. Please make an outgoing
Post by: jwiz168 on January 22, 2015, 11:27:52 am
You didn't say which faucet you were trying, but in any case, I just sent you 10 NXT. With that you can do a first transaction and your account will receive a public key.


Hi

Iam just new here and dont have my public key to transfer my nxt from exchange to my wallet. Can you spare me enough nxt to generate my public key .

My nxt address is NXT-T62H-C6E3-4UCV-EHK84 thank you


Hi, nxt has changed the way how it handles public key since the above posts that you replied to.
Now you must provide your public key from your account in the client before you can receive your first transaction. Just look in the client after you "LOGGED IN".
This is a one time event that is required for all new nxt accounts.

If you still can't find it, please let us know and we can show you.


Highly appreciated your posts guys. Got my nxt on my wallet . Thank you . Forging and minting is a good thing for NXT .
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