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Re: Why two different Account Numbers?
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2014, 12:06:20 pm »

What I meant is that websites could just display the id without dashes if they wanted, maybe as well as a dash version, or a copy to clipboard button, if users wanted it. Depends where you are copying from I suppose.

Makes more sense that a website would just show a normal RS account, QR Code and some kind of link that can be opened directly with a Nxt wallet mobile app.
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Re: Why two different Account Numbers?
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2014, 12:09:14 pm »

Certainly if the dashes were omitted it would make it 10x easier for people to use the clipboard which is 99% of the time the only thing people will *do with an address*.

I have never "read out aloud" nor "written down" a single Bitcoin address - have you?

I have also never done this with a NXT address - so *making it easier to do that* is rather *silly* to my thinking when all I want to be able to do is *copy and paste* the address.
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Re: Why two different Account Numbers?
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2014, 12:20:44 pm »

Your are right that I have never read out aloud a bitcoin address, but I also remember how shocked I first was when I saw my bitcoin address and was pretty confused.

We are going for main stream adoption, and a Nxt RS number looks similar to the current industry of credit card numbers and coupon codes.
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Re: Why two different Account Numbers?
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2014, 12:45:42 pm »

We are going for main stream adoption, and a Nxt RS number looks similar to the current industry of credit card numbers and coupon codes.

You are wrong to think that people are going to be "reading these out aloud" or "writing them down" - that was the 1990s.

If it isn't *clipboard friendly* then basically *it will be rejected* (i.e. you don't *replace* the traditional payment system by trying to *look like them*).
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Re: Why two different Account Numbers?
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2014, 01:02:02 pm »

The thing to do is to use NXTK4G2FF32WLL3QBGEL as the number, but make it standard in clients to display the number with the non pastable dashes.

Again - the issue is not *paste* but *copy* so non-pasteable dashes makes *zero sense* (perhaps you meant something else - "non-copyable"?).

Yeah, meant non-copyable. Basically, the dashes would only exist as display, they wouldn't be characters involved in copying/pasting/processing from that input field.
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Re: Why two different Account Numbers?
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2014, 01:08:35 pm »

Yeah, meant non-copyable. Basically, the dashes would only exist as display, they wouldn't be characters involved in copying/pasting/processing from that input field.

Okay - that makes sense now - assuming that can easily be done using HTML5 then I would think create a basic template that people can use and promote it!
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Re: Why two different Account Numbers?
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2014, 02:39:21 pm »

Yeah, meant non-copyable. Basically, the dashes would only exist as display, they wouldn't be characters involved in copying/pasting/processing from that input field.

Okay - that makes sense now - assuming that can easily be done using HTML5 then I would think create a basic template that people can use and promote it!
Okay, I investigated further, and what I proposed doesn't seem straightforward. However, what can be done easily is to make a whole input field selectable regardless of dashes. I just created a simple html input form, and made the whole input selected on a double click below.

<html><body><form>
<p><input type="text" id="accountRS" ondblclick="this.form.accountRS.select();" readonly>NXT-CSED-4PK5-AR4V-6UB5V</p>
</form></body></html>
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Re: Why two different Account Numbers?
« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2014, 02:47:12 pm »

Will be interested to know if that works on various touch computers - if it does I will work out how to add it to CIYAM Open (as it is annoying that currently you can't use "touch to select" there).
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Re: Why two different Account Numbers?
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2014, 05:14:40 pm »

Is the numeric version being phased out entirely?
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Re: Why two different Account Numbers?
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2014, 05:36:50 pm »

Is the numeric version being phased out entirely?

The underlying protocol uses the numbers but from a UI perspective those are far less safe (as they have no checksum) so I think you'll see them gradually disappear *from view* (perhaps eventually just for "advanced users").
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Re: Why two different Account Numbers?
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2014, 06:44:46 pm »

Although I think it is great that we have the error correction it is a pity that a '-' was used as a separator as you can't just "double click" (or "touch and hold") on addresses for easy clipboard copy. :(

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Well, URL are not easy to copy with one click either but they work as they are clickable.  The same can be done with Nxt address. If clicking a Nxt address opens it in default client, that will be even better than copy and paste

I think this is perfectly doable as some bloggers have "Online" link on their blogs, and when you click it, it opens yahoo messenger where their yahoo ID is already filed in so you can send a message to them. No copy and paste involved.

Why can't we do the same with Nxt addresses? They could be made clickable both for mobile and desktops and would open in default Nxt client
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Re: Why two different Account Numbers?
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2014, 07:25:25 pm »

Although I think it is great that we have the error correction it is a pity that a '-' was used as a separator as you can't just "double click" (or "touch and hold") on addresses for easy clipboard copy. :(

NXT-K4G2-FF32-WLL3-QBGEL

NXTxK4G2xFF32xWLL3xQBGEL

NXToK4G2oFF32oWLL3oQBGEL


Well, URL are not easy to copy with one click either but they work as they are clickable.  The same can be done with Nxt address. If clicking a Nxt address opens it in default client, that will be even better than copy and paste

I think this is perfectly doable as some bloggers have "Online" link on their blogs, and when you click it, it opens yahoo messenger where their yahoo ID is already filed in so you can send a message to them. No copy and paste involved.

Why can't we do the same with Nxt addresses? They could be made clickable both for mobile and desktops and would open in default Nxt client

Chrome would select the complete address if we use '_' instead of '-'. So,
NXT_K4G2_FF32_WLL3_QBGEL works. How about other browsers? Hm, Firefox doesn't work...
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