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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2014, 09:42:01 pm »

Hm, isn't delivery automatic in DGS?

I had an idea, if you buy, you get the encrypted product automatically?

Do u know how it could be possible without a 3rd party?

Why is 3rd party needed?
Seller puts a digital product on sale with the product content stored encrypted on the blockchain.
Buyer purchases this digital product, and gets its contents delivered in an encrypted message automatically right after the purchase. That was my understanding of how it's supposed to work. How does it work then?

Can't an AT be the 3rd party....it releases goods once payment is received to a specific account.

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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2014, 09:43:29 pm »

AT is completely transparent, I'm afraid it's impossible to use it as a 3rd party for product delivery.
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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2014, 09:45:46 pm »

AT is completely transparent, I'm afraid it's impossible to use it as a 3rd party for product delivery.

Well isn't that why both parties to a transaction can trust it...because it is completely transparent.

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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2014, 09:50:24 pm »

Well isn't that why both parties to a transaction can trust it...because it is completely transparent.

How will u hide the product content before the payment is made?
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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2014, 09:54:55 pm »

Well isn't that why both parties to a transaction can trust it...because it is completely transparent.

How will u hide the product content before the payment is made?
The only way I can think of is to pre-generate encrypted codes for all bidders (active NXT accts?) and implement a first N to redeem them logic.

Maybe there could be a registration step so that an interested bidder requests that an encrypted code is generated to the blockchain. So without needing to bruteforce, all the bidders will know that their encrypted code is there. Some crypto magic to allow each bidder to verify that is indeed the right code, maybe using referenced transactions.

Not sure, but it seems somewhat possible...

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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2014, 09:57:51 pm »

Not sure, but it seems somewhat possible...

Till now I was sure I had been the most optimistic person on this forum.  :D
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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2014, 10:14:59 pm »

Not sure, but it seems somewhat possible...

Till now I was sure I had been the most optimistic person on this forum.  :D
i am optimistic that you will figure out how to do this :)
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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2014, 10:48:06 pm »

Shouldn't be the price in DGS calculated from USD value based on the current exchange rate and displayed in NXT?

Then the price will be different every time in NXT however from the real world point of view stable price in USD.

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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #48 on: June 29, 2014, 11:02:42 pm »

This is confusing.Some newbies can download this verison thinkging that is a stable version.
It's not clear enought that only works in testnet.
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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #49 on: June 29, 2014, 11:09:31 pm »

This is confusing.Some newbies can download this verison thinkging that is a stable version.
It's not clear enought that only works in testnet.

Yeah, reading is hard, I know.
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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #50 on: June 30, 2014, 12:04:50 am »

NXT Please

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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #51 on: June 30, 2014, 12:09:29 am »

Where do alias you put for sale publicly appear??
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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #52 on: June 30, 2014, 12:50:53 am »

Can you send stuff to an account alias? Does the poll system allow for 1 vote per NXT id or is it one vote per NXT in the account?

Won't digital goods bloat the block chain? Or are their plans to checkpoint the block chain more often?
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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #53 on: June 30, 2014, 01:06:28 am »

Shouldn't be the price in DGS calculated from USD value based on the current exchange rate and displayed in NXT?
The sellers can change prices of goods already listed at any time, they can do it manually (or with a script) if the NXT exchange rate changes significantly. A logic to pull out exchange rates for fiat currencies from an external source doesn't really belong to the core.
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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #54 on: June 30, 2014, 01:08:29 am »

Where do alias you put for sale publicly appear??
Nowhere. It is like domain names, you search for the specific names you are interested in, and see if they are available, taken, or for sale.
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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #55 on: June 30, 2014, 01:11:11 am »

hello, im running nrs ok, says connected etc. but when i go to local host its as if im not running nrs?
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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #56 on: June 30, 2014, 01:14:15 am »

hello, im running nrs ok, says connected etc. but when i go to local host its as if im not running nrs?

If you're running the testnet, you need to access it at http://127.0.0.1:6876/
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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #57 on: June 30, 2014, 01:18:47 am »

Maybe there could be a registration step so that an interested bidder requests that an encrypted code is generated to the blockchain. So without needing to bruteforce, all the bidders will know that their encrypted code is there. Some crypto magic to allow each bidder to verify that is indeed the right code, maybe using referenced transactions.
Seller needs to encrypt the goods to the specific buyer. How can they do that before knowing who the buyer is going to be? If the goods are stored encrypted on the blockchain, they would need to be decrypted before being encrypted to a particular buyer's public key, for that step seller password is again needed. Also, the goods may not even exist yet - the seller may generate them on demand for each purchase, e.g. if selling coupon codes or software license keys. And they may need to be dependent on additional buyer specific data, e.g. cell phone ID or email, which buyer is required to supply as a note in the purchase transaction.

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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #58 on: June 30, 2014, 01:19:22 am »

Can you send stuff to an account alias? Does the poll system allow for 1 vote per NXT id or is it one vote per NXT in the account?
Not sure what you mean by send to an alias. Account aliases are a vanity feature that is not in the core.

The voting system is not ready for testing and will not be part of the stable 1.2 release. I guess Wesley forgot to comment out that code, it is not finished yet.

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Won't digital goods bloat the block chain? Or are their plans to checkpoint the block chain more often?
If they do, we will have to increase the goods listing fees. We don't have blockchain pruning yet.
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Re: NRS v1.2.0e
« Reply #59 on: June 30, 2014, 01:26:42 am »

Can you send stuff to an account alias? Does the poll system allow for 1 vote per NXT id or is it one vote per NXT in the account?
Not sure what you mean by send to an alias. Account aliases are a vanity feature that is not in the core.

The voting system is not ready for testing and will not be part of the stable 1.2 release. I guess Wesley forgot to comment out that code, it is not finished yet.

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Won't digital goods bloat the block chain? Or are their plans to checkpoint the block chain more often?
If they do, we will have to increase the goods listing fees. We don't have blockchain pruning yet.

What is the allowed size of a digital good? I assume we aren't delivering 1080p video here?
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