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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #220 on: August 17, 2014, 12:10:53 am »

I vote 1 and I hope hacker complies.
I don't want any deaths. People are greedy but people will also go insane for greed. You can't just trust people  on the internet to hunt safely.

This post needs to be published across the web so the hacker sees his options.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #222 on: August 17, 2014, 12:12:16 am »


Whole 55mil NXT might not be worth 1.8mil right now, or next 6 months... but even me holding it - I don't see why it couldn't be back to 1.8mil in a year. I believe in NXT! :)

I don't need to get ride of them out any time soon, they can sit there..

If forks happens, then it happens. I eat my losses.

Either case - 200 BTC does't satisfy me.
So you didn't steal them to intentionally hurt Nxt?

This is about profit, not intentionally hurting Nxt.  Anyway, I think it's best to put that 200BTC towards a bounty to hunt him down.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #223 on: August 17, 2014, 12:14:53 am »

Thar's right. 300 btc is probably more than 6 months profits for BTER.
They don't have that much volume and they have a team + server to pay.
I think they may have some BTC in reserve but the 200+ deal is probably the most they can allow themselve to give instantly
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #224 on: August 17, 2014, 12:15:17 am »

1. too low.
2. not possible.
3. kills nxt.

I choose kill nxt.  HTH.

« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 12:57:09 am by xyzzyx »
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #225 on: August 17, 2014, 12:16:20 am »

What will kill Nxt ?

Nothing. Nxt is a community with a lot of solidarity. The motherfucker hacker will not kill us. It's sure !!!

What is 50 mio of NXT ? He can dump it. Since the beginning of NXT a big part is dump, all the next were dump.

Let's go to the future. And remember him ! We will catch him one day.


I really like the idea of JL777. We can make a solution with our assets. We can make a big big reward to catch the hacker.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #226 on: August 17, 2014, 12:18:57 am »

I was around for the first few hours after the theft, and I'm pretty damn certain that thesir is the happy holder of the NXT....K4 account.
And lots of BTERs BTC....

Proofs?

Hmmm....good question. No, I'm not 100% certain, but the timing of thesircoms messages and their content ties in with the thiefs actions yesterday.

@thesircom
Simple proof test:
Send the AM: 'EvilDave is a complete plonker' to my sig account from the K4 account, please.


eyyyy

thesircom responded lol

https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/15478816768324662561

"EvilDave is a complete plonker"

or if anything the real hacker is reading the forums.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 12:21:26 am by Wakasaki808 »
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #227 on: August 17, 2014, 12:20:24 am »

Thar's right. 300 btc is probably more than 6 months profits for BTER.
They don't have that much volume and they have a team + server to pay.
I think they may have some BTC in reserve but the 200+ deal is probably the most they can allow themselve to give instantly

Well, if they don't make their users whole they are out of business anyway.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #228 on: August 17, 2014, 12:22:21 am »

If everyone calms down and stops giving him the dramatic show and histrionics he is looking for he will skip to the next logical step in this game... to accept the bitcoin and return the NXT so that he doesn't destroy the price of the currency and so that he can sleep well at night.

Return 40 million NXT... keep 5 million and take 200 more BTC. That's 300 BTC and 5 million NXT - there is a good chance he will both be alive to enjoy it in 5 years time AND that the price will rebound.

Any other scenario and there is extreme risk involved. It's time to accept the payday and move on in a way that still works two years from now.

I agree wholeheartedly with your initial statement.  I would also extend it to stop giving him offers of additional rewards.

Sir, thanks for showing up and joining the party.  This is between you and Bter.  Please wait until we get Bter here.

We've got to get a lead negotiator established here.  It needs to be Bter.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #229 on: August 17, 2014, 12:23:14 am »

Thar's right. 300 btc is probably more than 6 months profits for BTER.
They don't have that much volume and they have a team + server to pay.
I think they may have some BTC in reserve but the 200+ deal is probably the most they can allow themselve to give instantly

Well, if they don't make their users whole they are out of business anyway.
Hence the fourth solution is the only rational choice, plus it is backwards compatible with any of the other solutions
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #230 on: August 17, 2014, 12:23:18 am »

Do not negotiate with a thief. Life is much easier with a principle. Fork the chain. BTER has to give a bounty of 200 BTC to a trust escrow catch or "HURT" the thief. PLUS 100 BTC from people who recover fund from the fork. The bounty stays active indefinitely.

There will be 300 BTC bounty on his head FOREVER. I don't believe he has no trace, not when 300 btc = 1 or 2 million $. IF the community pressures BTER to negotiate, there will be an active campaign against NXT for tolerating and supporting thief and dirty scumbags of this world. NXT will be done for.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #231 on: August 17, 2014, 12:26:08 am »

Thar's right. 300 btc is probably more than 6 months profits for BTER.
They don't have that much volume and they have a team + server to pay.
I think they may have some BTC in reserve but the 200+ deal is probably the most they can allow themselve to give instantly

Well, if they don't make their users whole they are out of business anyway.
Hence the fourth solution is the only rational choice, plus it is backwards compatible with any of the other solutions

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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #232 on: August 17, 2014, 12:28:43 am »

Do not negotiate with a thief. Life is much easier with a principle. Fork the chain. BTER has to give a bounty of 200 BTC to a trust escrow catch or "HURT" the thief. PLUS 100 BTC from people who recover fund from the fork. The bounty stays active indefinitely.

There will be 300 BTC bounty on his head FOREVER. I don't believe he has no trace, not when 300 btc = 1 or 2 million $. IF the community pressures BTER to negotiate, there will be an active campaign against NXT for tolerating and supporting thief and dirty scumbags of this world. NXT will be done for.

Agreed!
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #234 on: August 17, 2014, 12:30:45 am »

Do not negotiate with a thief. Life is much easier with a principle. Fork the chain. BTER has to give a bounty of 200 BTC to a trust escrow catch or "HURT" the thief. PLUS 100 BTC from people who recover fund from the fork. The bounty stays active indefinitely.

There will be 300 BTC bounty on his head FOREVER. I don't believe he has no trace, not when 300 btc = 1 or 2 million $. IF the community pressures BTER to negotiate, there will be an active campaign against NXT for tolerating and supporting thief and dirty scumbags of this world. NXT will be done for.

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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #235 on: August 17, 2014, 12:30:49 am »

I choose 1.

Because that's the only way to win credibility and a little bit trust from the customers of Bter.

Bter will lose some money, but it will be a win - win situation after a while.

Other choices are risky and can hurt NXT as a whole. And NXT isn't guilty at all.

But. This time we need something like an escrow!

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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #236 on: August 17, 2014, 12:31:04 am »

Nevermind.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #237 on: August 17, 2014, 12:31:12 am »

2 and 3

A deal was already made and he broke it.  There should be no more negotiations IMO.  Best option is to try and track him down and have him arrested.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #238 on: August 17, 2014, 12:31:20 am »

He's right, I am:

https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/15478816768324662561

Shall we just assume that thesircom really is the K4 holder?
But just don't make any payments to any address that isn't specified in an AM from the K4 account.

Now, can we have the NXT back, please?
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #239 on: August 17, 2014, 12:34:17 am »

2 and 3

A deal was already made and he broke it.  There should be no more negotiations IMO.  Best option is to try and track him down and have him arrested.

Let me tell you from my current efforts on another hit I took six weeks ago that an arrest is easier said than done.  But that wasn't the loss of so very much from very many, either.

Sir is going to get identified in real life sooner rather than later.  We are going to need to reevaluate what our situation once we have him identified.  Almost certainly we can get his passport pulled and isolated in one country - he is a terrorist.
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