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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #200 on: August 16, 2014, 11:45:04 pm »

What do you want as deal

thesir said double the 200btc offer

He said "at least" double. If you offer him 400 he'll demand 800, and so on. I say stick with the 200 (which is actually 300) and tell him to take it or leave it. Let him try to sell the 45M NXT and see how that goes.

EDIT: Of course it's up to Bter whether to negotiate on price. You there Bter?
« Last Edit: August 16, 2014, 11:52:22 pm by eimon »
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #201 on: August 16, 2014, 11:46:23 pm »

What do you want as deal

thesir said double the 200btc offer
be specific
how want?

for me yu are note serious man
you have not respect deal
yur are hungry
« Last Edit: August 16, 2014, 11:59:42 pm by yassin54 »
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #202 on: August 16, 2014, 11:47:11 pm »

why not return 40mill and keep 5,mill then we can concentrate on making nxt 1$
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #203 on: August 16, 2014, 11:47:40 pm »

I think option #2 is viable. He has left a lot of traces, and for 300 BTC people will find him.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #204 on: August 16, 2014, 11:48:22 pm »

I was around for the first few hours after the theft, and I'm pretty damn certain that thesir is the happy holder of the NXT....K4 account.
And lots of BTERs BTC....

Proofs?

Hmmm....good question. No, I'm not 100% certain, but the timing of thesircoms messages and their content ties in with the thiefs actions yesterday.

@thesircom
Simple proof test:
Send the AM: 'EvilDave is a complete plonker' to my sig account from the K4 account, please.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #205 on: August 16, 2014, 11:49:17 pm »

I go for option X: outlawed manhunt of whatever hides behind the alias 'thesircom'.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #206 on: August 16, 2014, 11:50:34 pm »

Provide Token?
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #207 on: August 16, 2014, 11:51:31 pm »

1. too low.
You have deal with BTER - they pay 100 BTC, you refunds 50kk NXT. BTER fulfilled the terms of a deal. May be answer for your words and follow the terms of a deal? And I did not see any reason why BTER do transfer to you another 200BTC or 400BTC - you again do not fulfill the terms of a deal.
PS Those who do not keep their word - do not respect anybody, even the criminal world.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #208 on: August 16, 2014, 11:51:36 pm »

I was around for the first few hours after the theft, and I'm pretty damn certain that thesir is the happy holder of the NXT....K4 account.
And lots of BTERs BTC....

Proofs?

Hmmm....good question. No, I'm not 100% certain, but the timing of thesircoms messages and their content ties in with the thiefs actions yesterday.

@thesircom
Simple proof test:
Send the AM: 'EvilDave is a complete plonker' to my sig account from the K4 account, please.

He being asked to make a token right after his first post here. But we get nothing.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #209 on: August 16, 2014, 11:51:58 pm »

you are from Chojnice, Poland?
No. Right now - I'm from Hamilton, Canada.

An unexpected supporter of the no-fork proponents  :o

Indeed.

You have a counter-offer?
At least double it.

Whole 55mil NXT might not be worth 1.8mil right now, or next 6 months... but even me holding it - I don't see why it couldn't be back to 1.8mil in a year. I believe in NXT! :)

I don't need to get ride of them out any time soon, they can sit there..

If forks happens, then it happens. I eat my losses.

Either case - 200 BTC does't satisfy me.
Why waiting and having so much headache with that "dirty" NXTs, when you can accept 200BTC and buy "clean" and cheap NXT now? Btw we need developers, and you seem like a very smart guy (and are still anonymous), you can join the developers, be paid, and make your "clean" NXTs worth much more than 1m $!
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #210 on: August 16, 2014, 11:56:56 pm »

is it just me or who else finds it ridiculous how mildly and rosy people talk to a dirty thief when they want their money back.

return the funds or BURN. that are your choices.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #211 on: August 16, 2014, 11:58:57 pm »

is it just me or who else finds it ridiculous how mildly and rosy people talk to a dirty thief when they want their money back.

return the funds or BURN. that are your choices.

How could one possibly be rude to a person named 'Sir'?
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #212 on: August 16, 2014, 11:59:01 pm »

best for both worlds is he returns 45mill and keep 5 mill. bter could handle a aller loss. theif gets 5 mill to hodl
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #213 on: August 17, 2014, 12:00:35 am »

1. too low.
2. not possible.
3. kills nxt.
????????????????????????
« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 12:03:25 am by Costner »
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #214 on: August 17, 2014, 12:01:33 am »

is it just me or who else finds it ridiculous how mildly and rosy people talk to a dirty thief when they want their money back.

return the funds or BURN. that are your choices.

How could one possibly be rude to a person named 'Sir'?

he's a littly pussy hiding behind swiss vpn, fake nick and his screen. there is nothing behind all this but a wimpy man who feels big now for a while. it's ridiculous...
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #215 on: August 17, 2014, 12:03:10 am »

I am small :(
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #216 on: August 17, 2014, 12:03:27 am »

best for both worlds is he returns 45mill and keep 5 mill. bter could handle a aller loss. theif gets 5 mill to hodl

if the community sends 1 more NXT or BTC to this miserable being I am going to facepalm eternally.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #217 on: August 17, 2014, 12:06:07 am »

Many say here oh the hacker is so clever. Than how can he not figure out simply that BTER does not have as much profit he thinks they have. He is completely irrational at demands who needs to be exterminated , and I will give 1 BTC in a bounty to get him if collection starts.

It is simple math 0.36% * 300BTC daily average volume is their daily profit, so about 1 BTC. 300BTC hurts them a lot. Most certainly more than a whole years of profit after expenses, salaries and they learn an expensive lesson on internet security. Altough they were dumb at handling our money, but at least they are doing the right thing and do not do a runner with the rest.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #218 on: August 17, 2014, 12:06:26 am »

If everyone calms down and stops giving him the dramatic show and histrionics he is looking for he will skip to the next logical step in this game... to accept the bitcoin and return the NXT so that he doesn't destroy the price of the currency and so that he can sleep well at night.

Return 40 million NXT... keep 5 million and take 200 more BTC. That's 300 BTC and 5 million NXT - there is a good chance he will both be alive to enjoy it in 5 years time AND that the price will rebound.

Any other scenario and there is extreme risk involved. It's time to accept the payday and move on in a way that still works two years from now.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #219 on: August 17, 2014, 12:06:48 am »


Whole 55mil NXT might not be worth 1.8mil right now, or next 6 months... but even me holding it - I don't see why it couldn't be back to 1.8mil in a year. I believe in NXT! :)

I don't need to get ride of them out any time soon, they can sit there..

If forks happens, then it happens. I eat my losses.

Either case - 200 BTC does't satisfy me.
So you didn't steal them to intentionally hurt Nxt?
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