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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #80 on: August 16, 2014, 08:17:45 pm »

Consider also this: many small investors had your NXT on BTER, if they do not have all your Nxt available, there is here, in Nxt community, only big whales.
At least, the community will lose very many disappointed Nxter.

This is true.

A lot of small fishes, totally innocent and well-intentioned will lose all the hope in cryptos and specially in NXT. Nice portion of "cryptomarket" down the toilet just before launching the DGS. Sad.  :(
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #81 on: August 16, 2014, 08:18:07 pm »

option 3 should be used for now to put pressure on the hacker, while options 1 and 2 remain valid.

let's hope 1 or 2 will solve this before DGS block, that way, it's still possible to get back on 1.2.5.

PUT PRESSURE ON THE HACKER !!
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #82 on: August 16, 2014, 08:18:47 pm »

Something wrong with 1.2.5f?



There isnt the block number that Jean-Luc said!  Where is block 210440? :o
« Last Edit: August 16, 2014, 08:21:52 pm by Coradan »
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #83 on: August 16, 2014, 08:20:52 pm »

So now we have exchanges with large holdings deciding to lead a hard fork against community consensus of yesterday?

Whether I agree personally with the outcome of yesterdays decision by Nxt forgers or not, this turn of events troubles me very much.

Seems more like a coup.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #84 on: August 16, 2014, 08:21:43 pm »

You trust him to do what we want by giving him 300 BTC more?  Why?

If option 1 is accepted by the hacker, the hacker needs to send first. The guy is not only a thief, but also a trustless liar.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #85 on: August 16, 2014, 08:22:45 pm »

So now we have exchanges with large holdings deciding to lead a hard fork against community consensus of yesterday?

Whether I agree personally with the outcome of yesterdays decision by Nxt forgers or not, this turn of events troubles me very much.

Can you pls provide the link where this "consensus" was reach?  ::)

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Seems more like a coup.

LOL, a coup? by who? the community against the community?
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #86 on: August 16, 2014, 08:23:53 pm »

DGEX, what safety procedures do you have for these coins? You are forging with them means you are not putting them in a cold wallet, or are they leased?
The stash is not deployed for forging currently while we contemplate the repercussions of the personal commitment decision to business.

Not leased. I reckon leasing to our own account could offer more protection, would it not.

My thirst for the hard fork is not motivated by a will to bail out BTER or save their customers. It is motivated by the will to keep NXT coherent and alive by avoiding 50 Million dump to the open market.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #87 on: August 16, 2014, 08:25:53 pm »

Something wrong with 1.2.5f?

http://www.nxt.cool/125f.png

There isnt the block number that Jean-Luc said!  Where is block 210440? :o
i'm in 209886 only ???
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #88 on: August 16, 2014, 08:26:17 pm »

Something wrong with 1.2.5f?



There isnt the block number that Jean-Luc said!  Where is block 210440? :o

You need to wait until it connected to other nodes
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #89 on: August 16, 2014, 08:26:51 pm »

A lot of small fishes, totally innocent and well-intentioned will lose all the hope in cryptos and specially in NXT. Nice portion of "cryptomarket" down the toilet just before launching the DGS. Sad.  :(

With a exchange that has uncertain legal restriction? Its always risky! Cryptsy would have enforce the law they are registerd with FinCEN.

British virgin islands maybe they should call good old england for help?
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #90 on: August 16, 2014, 08:27:13 pm »

So now we have exchanges with large holdings deciding to lead a hard fork against community consensus of yesterday?

Whether I agree personally with the outcome of yesterdays decision by Nxt forgers or not, this turn of events troubles me very much.

Can you pls provide the link where this "consensus" was reach?  ::)

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Seems more like a coup.

LOL, a coup? by who? the community against the community?

It was reached by the fact that most of the Nxt continued to forge on the old chain, not the new 'hardfork' chain. And it seems that continues to happen. But the exchanges control many peoples Nxt, so they can add a large weighting toward the new 'hardfork' chain without caring whether the people whose Nxt they own want that.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2014, 08:29:26 pm by valarmg »
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #91 on: August 16, 2014, 08:28:16 pm »

DGEX, what safety procedures do you have for these coins? You are forging with them means you are not putting them in a cold wallet, or are they leased?
The stash is not deployed for forging currently while we contemplate the repercussions of the personal commitment decision to business.

Not leased. I reckon leasing to our own account could offer more protection, would it not.

My thirst for the hard fork is not motivated by a will to bail out BTER or save their customers. It is motivated by the will to keep NXT coherent and alive by avoiding 50 Million dump to the open market.
You should not decide with peoples coins at your exchange to do a fork.

Do what you want with your PRIVATE NXT what you want, but keep the customers NXT out of this!
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #92 on: August 16, 2014, 08:28:44 pm »

DGEX, what safety procedures do you have for these coins? You are forging with them means you are not putting them in a cold wallet, or are they leased?
The stash is not deployed for forging currently while we contemplate the repercussions of the personal commitment decision to business.

Not leased. I reckon leasing to our own account could offer more protection, would it not.

My thirst for the hard fork is not motivated by a will to bail out BTER or save their customers. It is motivated by the will to keep NXT coherent and alive by avoiding 50 Million dump to the open market.

What about the other part of my question:

Are you keeping all these coins in 1 (point of failure) account and access it from a single computer?
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #93 on: August 16, 2014, 08:29:39 pm »

Something wrong with 1.2.5f?



There isnt the block number that Jean-Luc said!  Where is block 210440? :o

I got this trick from Come-from-Beyond

edit this file:

nxt/conf/nxt-default.properties

maxNumberOfConnectedPublicPeers
set it to 1000 or more so that you can see all the nodes
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #94 on: August 16, 2014, 08:32:50 pm »

So now we have exchanges with large holdings deciding to lead a hard fork against community consensus of yesterday?

Whether I agree personally with the outcome of yesterdays decision by Nxt forgers or not, this turn of events troubles me very much.

Can you pls provide the link where this "consensus" was reach?  ::)

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Seems more like a coup.

LOL, a coup? by who? the community against the community?

When I woke up this morning and checked, "we" the community of forgers had decided not to participate in the reorganization plan.

This is not community against community. This is an outside force stepping in to agitate an outcome (coup).

This is a horrible situation and I feel terrible for all affected. My concerns have to do with the question of exchanges having this much power to influence the future of Nxt or any other coin.

Does anybody else have this concern?
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #95 on: August 16, 2014, 08:33:32 pm »

I've been told that the hacker himself have chosen to forge ont 1.2.5f  ;D

=======>(ok I take the door)
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #96 on: August 16, 2014, 08:34:54 pm »

So now we have exchanges with large holdings deciding to lead a hard fork against community consensus of yesterday?

Whether I agree personally with the outcome of yesterdays decision by Nxt forgers or not, this turn of events troubles me very much.

Can you pls provide the link where this "consensus" was reach?  ::)

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Seems more like a coup.

LOL, a coup? by who? the community against the community?

When I woke up this morning and checked, "we" the community of forgers had decided not to participate in the reorganization plan.

This is not community against community. This is an outside force stepping in to agitate an outcome (coup).

This is a horrible situation and I feel terrible for all affected. My concerns have to do with the question of exchanges having this much power to influence the future of Nxt or any other coin.

Does anybody else have this concern?

Im 100% on your side on that.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #97 on: August 16, 2014, 08:35:00 pm »

Something wrong with 1.2.5f?



There isnt the block number that Jean-Luc said!  Where is block 210440? :o

I got this trick from Come-from-Beyond

edit this file:

nxt/conf/nxt-default.properties

maxNumberOfConnectedPublicPeers
set it to 1000 or more so that you can see all the nodes

Thx. I hope my networks does not say bump!
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #98 on: August 16, 2014, 08:38:55 pm »

any news from hacker?
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #99 on: August 16, 2014, 08:39:09 pm »

Whats about option 1?  Has Hacker been contated? 
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