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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #600 on: August 18, 2014, 03:16:47 am »

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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #601 on: August 18, 2014, 04:28:58 am »

I am largely satisfied by the recovery of about 85% of the stolen NXT, but I still find the role of Bter throughout this saga suspect at best. 

The haphazard throwing of BTC at the thief, the amateurish negotiation tactics, and the scant updates provided (the less information you offer, the less you have to lie about) -- it was the stuff out of the pages of a badly written comic book.

I maintain that the entire thrust behind the theft, whether Bter colluded or not, was to damage NXT as a currency and a philosophy.  If I recall correctly, the desire was expressed to see if NXT would fork.  That stresses to me all the more that the crime wasn't so much a theft as it was a social experiment conducted on the NXT community, because a fork very nearly occurred, but fortunately didn't.  And that raises my suspicions even more, because the time to give the NXT back was when the fork was most likely to happen, because he would never have been able to move it out of the account.  But only after "not rolling back" was a foregone conclusion that he agreed to give up control of 1.6 million worth of NXT for only $50,000 of BTC, with Bter looking like the hero.

No, I'm not buying it.

These are just my thoughts, guys -- the mental meanderings of a closet madman.  But in spite of this week's travails, NXT is coming away even stronger by virtue of yet one more distinction:  The only cryptocurrency that I can recall which has managed to recover 85% of funds stolen after a breach.

Usually, that number is zero.  Why wouldn't you use NXT now?

Never have I been more proud to be a member of the NXT community.

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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #602 on: August 18, 2014, 04:40:24 am »

LOOKS LIKE THE HACKER IS MOVING FUNDS AROUND

https://blockchain.info/address/1AEEasymuZCAXFEcLmgUwQZLA69Kc6GGUW

I personally don't have time right now, but if someone can follow those funds and make sure they don't hit an exchange, that'd be nice...
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #603 on: August 18, 2014, 04:53:31 am »

LOOKS LIKE THE HACKER IS MOVING FUNDS AROUND

https://blockchain.info/address/1AEEasymuZCAXFEcLmgUwQZLA69Kc6GGUW

I personally don't have time right now, but if someone can follow those funds and make sure they don't hit an exchange, that'd be nice...

Likely going to mix them.  Hope he uses the same service RJ used.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #604 on: August 18, 2014, 09:08:41 am »

Last night (Central Europe time) I saw "thesircom" user connected for a long time and "watching his messages". Did he answer anything? Can we assume his lack of arrogant posts a sign of his fear? could he be trying to figure an escape point now?
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #605 on: August 18, 2014, 09:17:24 am »

Last night (Central Europe time) I saw "thesircom" user connected for a long time and "watching his messages". Did he answer anything? Can we assume his lack of arrogant posts a sign of his fear? could he be trying to figure an escape point now?
Its the start of many sleepless nights for the theif. he now has to live in fear of a knock at the door or even the door been kicked in.
The consequences of being dishonest. hahaha rather him than me
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #606 on: August 18, 2014, 09:53:44 am »


http://weibo.com/3969398100/BiRQOfpiK

比特儿韩林:从黑客口中得知,他无法直接入侵比特儿服务器,但很幸运的从我在6,7年前留在网络上的信息中分析出了我事发前仍在使用的一个密码,成功窃取了大量NXT。详细细节我会在事后揭示。事已至此,很想为我的疏忽说声抱歉,但已经没有意义。我会为整个事件的损失负责。比特儿还会继续下去。

The hacker told Lin that he couldn't log into BTER server by anyway, but he was lucky that he got the passphrase from his analysis of Lin's history information on the web 6 or 7 years ago. Lin promised that he will take responsibility of this incident and BTER will go on service.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #607 on: August 18, 2014, 10:15:47 am »

So it was a newb that got lucky?
I am pretty sure he can be tracked down.

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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #608 on: August 18, 2014, 10:28:53 am »

Haha oh my god ...

I hope someone already tracked him down and he lands in jail!
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #609 on: August 18, 2014, 04:17:57 pm »

Do anyone in touch with bter? Any news?
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #610 on: August 18, 2014, 04:59:53 pm »

The BTER chief developer is on a 12 hour flight somewhere. But BTER didn't say anything about a chainsaw in his baggage.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #611 on: August 18, 2014, 05:17:10 pm »

If I stumbled across the same hack.. I think the right move would be to empty the wallet, contact BTER and inform them that they had a huge bug....

A huge bug?  The only "bug" was Bter's poor management of their NXT wallet.  Nothing regarding NXT as a protocol was exploited.

I'd say someone being able to steal 50 million Nxt is a huge bug..  I never stated it was Nxt's bug.  I think it was BTER's bug.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #612 on: August 18, 2014, 05:24:12 pm »

The BTER chief developer is on a 12 hour flight somewhere. But BTER didn't say anything about a chainsaw in his baggage.

How do you know that?
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #613 on: August 18, 2014, 05:26:23 pm »

The BTER chief developer is on a 12 hour flight somewhere. But BTER didn't say anything about a chainsaw in his baggage.

How do you know that?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654463.msg8418610#msg8418610
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #614 on: August 18, 2014, 07:07:50 pm »

The BTER chief developer is on a 12 hour flight somewhere. But BTER didn't say anything about a chainsaw in his baggage.

How do you know that?

Going to Canada...
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #615 on: August 19, 2014, 01:07:07 am »

Is it possible to remove my BTER account and all my data?, I don't see the option for it.

If it is true that the hacker got unauthorized access and 90% of passwords from BTER admin, most coins on BTER are compromised now. If that is not true the conclusion is also bad about BTER, worst indeed. I can not trust BTER anymore in any case.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #616 on: August 19, 2014, 04:25:55 am »

Is it possible to remove my BTER account and all my data?, I don't see the option for it.

If it is true that the hacker got unauthorized access and 90% of passwords from BTER admin, most coins on BTER are compromised now. If that is not true the conclusion is also bad about BTER, worst indeed. I can not trust BTER anymore in any case.

It might be a good idea to wait for a forensic report from Bter on the theft.  I find it suspect that only NXT was stolen if their system was really wide-open. 

OTOH, you could try https://bter.com/page/contacts to ask to be removed.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #617 on: August 19, 2014, 04:43:51 am »

I thought the admin of this forum got the hackers IP? I'm sure there would be some crumbs.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #618 on: August 19, 2014, 05:36:42 am »

I thought the admin of this forum got the hackers IP? I'm sure there would be some crumbs.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #619 on: August 19, 2014, 05:46:29 am »

IP on this forum was a relay in Switzerland. And later in Canada. However we have not got any information from bter.
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