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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2014, 07:30:44 pm »

Match Results:
1.2.5: 111 - 9 :1.2.5f

Go, Go!!!
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2014, 07:30:47 pm »

I vote Option 1 or 2 if you can negotiate with the hacker and actually get him to do stuff on his side. In the meantime, I am going to be running 1.2.5f if it doesn't work then meh.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2014, 07:31:17 pm »

Would you presonaly buy NXT if you encountered it only now, this day, knowing that there are stole 46mils flying around. I wouldn't..

This argument goes both ways. Who would trust Nxt blockchain when the transactions can be reversed if most people don't like it? What's next? What if in the future the govt demands to reverse transactions from silkroad  for example? 
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2014, 07:31:30 pm »

Great work! I see more and more 1.2.5f in peers now.  We need more power. Thank you very much for your support.
I am going to get more people in tomorrow from China.

Bter you are the ghash of nxt and not in a good way. If a exchange gets involved in mining/forging its dangerous.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2014, 07:34:40 pm »

Great work! I see more and more 1.2.5f in peers now.  We need more power. Thank you very much for your support.
I am going to get more people in tomorrow from China.

Bter you are the ghash of nxt and not in a good way. If a exchange gets involved in mining/forging its dangerous.

Why? Dgex has been forging from beginning, I think. 
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2014, 07:34:53 pm »

Would you presonaly buy NXT if you encountered it only now, this day, knowing that there are stole 46mils flying around. I wouldn't..

This argument goes both ways. Who would trust Nxt blockchain when the transactions can be reversed if most people don't like it? What's next? What if in the future the govt demands to reverse transactions from silkroad  for example?

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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2014, 07:35:44 pm »

Great work! I see more and more 1.2.5f in peers now.  We need more power. Thank you very much for your support.
I am going to get more people in tomorrow from China.

Bter you are the ghash of nxt and not in a good way. If a exchange gets involved in mining/forging its dangerous.

Well, they are offering to pay 200 BTC to get back stolen funds for affected NXT holders..
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2014, 07:36:05 pm »

Why? Dgex has been forging from beginning, I think.
No, just occasionally unintended.

We are considering forging for 1.2.5f though with 29M.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2014, 07:37:09 pm »

Option 1.

Option 3 is a BAD idea.  Rolling back the blockchain because of an exchange's mistake???  THEY screwed up plain and simple.  I am sorry it happened, but the damage that will be done to NXT cannot be overstated if you rollback because it sets a future precedent.  Suppose Cryptsy or BTC38 is hacked for the same amount?  Are we going to do roll back again?  As CfB stated...this option will go away down the road.

The MGW should be THE place to go to trade NXT for anything else.  Period.  That was the entire reason it was created...to AVOID situations like this!
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2014, 07:37:21 pm »

Would you presonaly buy NXT if you encountered it only now, this day, knowing that there are stole 46mils flying around. I wouldn't..

This argument goes both ways. Who would trust Nxt blockchain when the transactions can be reversed if most people don't like it? What's next? What if in the future the govt demands to reverse transactions from silkroad  for example?

Only it is possible to do in this case, because hacker has not made transactions.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2014, 07:38:21 pm »

This isn't about forging and who wins the majority.

1.2.5f will be a hard fork => ALL users have to switch.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2014, 07:40:07 pm »

Would you presonaly buy NXT if you encountered it only now, this day, knowing that there are stole 46mils flying around. I wouldn't..

This argument goes both ways. Who would trust Nxt blockchain when the transactions can be reversed if most people don't like it? What's next? What if in the future the govt demands to reverse transactions from silkroad  for example?

But it is not about "like" or "don't like". It is about justice. If govs had 51% mining power they would do it anyway.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2014, 07:42:26 pm »

The state is downloading blockchain and only one of 20 peers is in 1.2.5f...
Need more forgers in 1.2.5f
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2014, 07:42:30 pm »

Why? Dgex has been forging from beginning, I think.
No, just occasionally unintended.

We are considering forging for 1.2.5f though with 29M.

If this goes trough i personal contact any crypto news i can find. Headlines: Exchanges rewrite nxt blockchain. I have no words to describe... Ask cryptsy you could start a syndicate.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2014, 07:44:17 pm »

Option1 || Option2

With Option3, what if after everything is settle down, bter says 'haha, the whole thing is just a experiment, now we know we can alter at least one transaction and probably a fork with 5% stake'.

Just a hypothesis of course, I like bter and trade a lot there.  ::)
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2014, 07:44:34 pm »

Btw those that support option 1 should also open their clients ( 1.2.5 ) and increase nodes for it.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2014, 07:45:42 pm »

It's unlikely that any new people would invest in Nxt if someone has almost 50M to dump. What wrong with leaving the hacker on fork? Rollback by Jean-Luc is a bad idea with no questions, but forgers cooperating against the hacker is a community work. Sounds stupid that someone could be against it. Maybe the hacker paid to those people to vote against it.
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2014, 07:45:54 pm »

Why? Dgex has been forging from beginning, I think.
No, just occasionally unintended.

We are considering forging for 1.2.5f though with 29M.

lol, you deny that your exchange forges intentionally and then state that you are considering forging. Whatever  ::)
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2014, 07:46:40 pm »

This hardfork option is a horrible idea for Nxt. Please negotiate with the hacker and take the option off the table.

Everyone should forge on 1.2.5
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Re: 3 solutions proposed by Bter.com (200BTC deal or 310BTC bounty or Fork)
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2014, 07:47:08 pm »

Would you presonaly buy NXT if you encountered it only now, this day, knowing that there are stole 46mils flying around. I wouldn't..

This argument goes both ways. Who would trust Nxt blockchain when the transactions can be reversed if most people don't like it? What's next? What if in the future the govt demands to reverse transactions from silkroad  for example?

But it is not about "like" or "don't like". It is about justice. If govs had 51% mining power they would do it anyway.
In the future it will be not possible, only with 90% forging power.
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