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rickyjames

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Re: Forgers have been faced with a choice...
« Reply #1280 on: August 15, 2014, 08:13:26 pm »

Theft occurred at block height 209886 at Fri Aug 15 01:14:54 CDT 2014 = Fri Aug 15 06:14:54 UTC 2014

There is a 720 block limit to make a fork

Fork must thus be made by block 209886 + 720 = 210606 

I am writing this 14 hours after theft at Fri Aug 15 15:15:00 CDT 2014 = Fri Aug 15 20:15:00 UTC 2014

We are currently on block 210376

We are processing about 35 blocks per hour
 
We have 230 blocks to go - approx 7 hours left from this post before power shifts from the NXT community totally to the thief.

ESTIMATED ZERO HOUR IS SAT Aug 16 03:00:00 UTC 2014

Watch for passage of Block 210606 here: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/blockexplorer_blocks


« Last Edit: August 15, 2014, 08:18:55 pm by rickyjames »
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« Reply #1281 on: August 15, 2014, 08:14:50 pm »

I'm surprised nobody mentions Cryptsy as an alternate centralized exchange to BTER. I use them almost exclusively and like them.

They ended up with horrible reputation due to continuous problems a couple of months ago. 
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Re: Forgers have been faced with a choice...
« Reply #1282 on: August 15, 2014, 08:15:03 pm »



ESTIMATED ZERO HOUR IS SAT Aug 16 03:00:00 UTC 2014

Watch for passage of Block 210606 here: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/blockexplorer_blocks



I had 450K NXT on Bter and vote for a hard fork.
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Re: Forgers have been faced with a choice...
« Reply #1283 on: August 15, 2014, 08:15:24 pm »

So the "Official" Response from the Nxt Community according to "Cryptocoin News" is that there is no roll back.  And the community percentage vote was in favour of a roll back (more than 50%) BUT the forges don't agree so it doesn't happen?  AND only 0.25% of the "community owns more than 1 million and 75% of total Nxt...  meaning basically 1 percent of the community is making the decisions for everyone and overriding the community decision? 

I personally was against the roll back but if you take all of the above into consideration, the roll back should've happened shouldn't it?

Honestly I'm just speechless, I read quite a few articles on cryptocoinsnews including the official response you're referring to and what really gets me is the way they describe the negotiation as "Bter panicked" and sent 80btc to the hacker! That was the worst negotiation ever!! If we can even call that negotiating!! Seems pretty suspicious to me!
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« Reply #1284 on: August 15, 2014, 08:16:03 pm »

It is very simple, http://multigateway.org - Software Download

Yes I have it enabled since its release.

what do you mean then?

I have MGW in my client. I asked how I can sell NXT for BTC through it. ;)

Excuse my ignorance -- all I see is this:
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Re: Forgers have been faced with a choice...
« Reply #1285 on: August 15, 2014, 08:16:15 pm »

So much for remaining partial. I want to negotiate honestly with the thief to pay him a bounty for the return of 45 mil Nxt. You makes this exceedingly difficult. Excuse my language, but this is fucked up.

Ur excuse is not accepted. If anyone going to argue with me if I did good or bad, my reply will contain only words not welcomed on this forum.
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« Reply #1286 on: August 15, 2014, 08:16:17 pm »

I'm surprised nobody mentions Cryptsy as an alternate centralized exchange to BTER. I use them almost exclusively and like them.

They ended up with horrible reputation due to continuous problems a couple of months ago.
Been working fine for me for a couple months. They're nxt wallet is offline right now, I think, do to the current situation. I can't place orders. Haven't tried depositing or withdrawing.
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Re: Forgers have been faced with a choice...
« Reply #1287 on: August 15, 2014, 08:17:30 pm »

It is very simple, http://multigateway.org - Software Download

Yes I have it enabled since its release.

what do you mean then?

I have MGW in my client. I asked how I can sell NXT for BTC through it. ;)

Excuse my ignorance -- all I see is this:


Buying mgwBTC for NXT...  On the Asset Exchange, not in MGW UI...
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Re: Forgers have been faced with a choice...
« Reply #1288 on: August 15, 2014, 08:17:36 pm »

I'm surprised nobody mentions Cryptsy as an alternate centralized exchange to BTER. I use them almost exclusively and like them.

They ended up with horrible reputation due to continuous problems a couple of months ago.
Been working fine for me for a couple months. They're nxt wallet is offline right now, I think, do to the current situation. I can't place orders. Haven't tried depositing or withdrawing.

I will personally never touch Cryptsy again after my experience with their incompetence.
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« Reply #1289 on: August 15, 2014, 08:18:06 pm »

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« Last Edit: November 25, 2014, 05:14:09 pm by sava0123 »
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« Reply #1290 on: August 15, 2014, 08:18:27 pm »

Buying mgwBTC for NXT...  On the Asset Exchange, not in MGW UI...

Thank you mate ;)
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Re: Forgers have been faced with a choice...
« Reply #1291 on: August 15, 2014, 08:18:43 pm »

I would like to reiterate my support for forking the thief off our chain. 

I also had 14K NXT on Bter, but that doesn't affect my decision.  To prove my point, I hereby publicly donate that 14K NXT to Bter for any reason they so choose.  It's theirs.

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Re: Forgers have been faced with a choice...
« Reply #1292 on: August 15, 2014, 08:19:06 pm »

Where is ChuckOne right now? I have leased huge forging power to his charity hub. I want it on 1.2.5b. Should I morally consider the forging power his or should I have a say on what fork it forges?

Why not make two coins one is called nxt and the other one funnxt. I was 24 hours online when gox happend almost every day and i didnt hear one guy saying satoshi do a rollback. 
Because this would be a rickroll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ-
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Re: Forgers have been faced with a choice...
« Reply #1293 on: August 15, 2014, 08:19:12 pm »

Fork NXT get the NXT back . Release a new NXT with the inability to fork ever again. Problem solved.
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Re: Forgers have been faced with a choice...
« Reply #1294 on: August 15, 2014, 08:19:16 pm »

It is very simple, http://multigateway.org - Software Download

Yes I have it enabled since its release.

what do you mean then?

I have MGW in my client. I asked how I can sell NXT for BTC through it. ;)

Excuse my ignorance -- all I see is this:


Buying mgwBTC for NXT...  On the Asset Exchange, not in MGW UI...

The mgwBTC asset ID is: 4551058913252105307, so you can buy it on AE...
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« Reply #1295 on: August 15, 2014, 08:20:27 pm »

I got it now.. So he will be taking down by FBI. Then mass media all over the world will write about NXT and hacker and price will be 40$?

No, 2-3$ max.
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Re: Forgers have been faced with a choice...
« Reply #1296 on: August 15, 2014, 08:20:44 pm »

So the "Official" Response from the Nxt Community according to "Cryptocoin News" is that there is no roll back.  And the community percentage vote was in favour of a roll back (more than 50%) BUT the forges don't agree so it doesn't happen?  AND only 0.25% of the "community owns more than 1 million and 75% of total Nxt...  meaning basically 1 percent of the community is making the decisions for everyone and overriding the community decision? 

I personally was against the roll back but if you take all of the above into consideration, the roll back should've happened shouldn't it?

Honestly I'm just speechless, I read quite a few articles on cryptocoinsnews including the official response you're referring to and what really gets me is the way they describe the negotiation as "Bter panicked" and sent 80btc to the hacker! That was the worst negotiation ever!! If we can even call that negotiating!! Seems pretty suspicious to me!

LOL I know!!  I felt like I was reading the script of some cheesy film that never made it to film just cause it was so ridiculous.  A mix between a foreign film, a western & sci-fi     ;D ...  But seriously it was so ridiculous it was actually not believable, like seriously not believable!
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Re: Forgers have been faced with a choice...
« Reply #1297 on: August 15, 2014, 08:22:40 pm »

Lets do a hard fork, all my Altcoin investment 60K was in NXT on BTER so I am not impartial. But I find disgusting how some here are so selfish and want to avoid hard fork. They are not only selfish but they are hurting the value of the coin too. 5% at hacker, much more than the MTGOX hacker has from BTC proportionally. I will never touch NXT and none of my friends either if this is not solved.

From marketing and price point of view hard for is already better.
-Hard forking will send a message that NXT owners are not idiots and hackers go play with other currencies rather.
-Will avoid 50M dump in coming months.
If no hard fork is done
-Nxt users can be sure that they can make large transactions that are valid without too many confirmations. (I see no huge benefit to this, wait for more confirmations if you want to be super safe, but at least you can use the exchange infrastructure without fearing all your money gone.)

But the only ethical and good thing to do is HARD FORK.

Edit:
The poll shows majority want a fork. And probably only 5% is directly hit by this like me. So not all hope is lost in humanity. https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/roll-back-bter-hack-of-50m-nxt/
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Re: Forgers have been faced with a choice...
« Reply #1298 on: August 15, 2014, 08:23:51 pm »

Fork NXT get the NXT back . Release a new NXT with the inability to fork ever again. Problem solved.


+10000 GREAT IDEA!
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« Reply #1299 on: August 15, 2014, 08:23:58 pm »

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