Topic: Forgers have been faced with a choice... (Read 189548 times)

Come-from-Beyond · « **on:** August 15, 2014, 08:45:06 am »

~50 million NXT has been stolen from BTER.
The money was transferred from NXT-LSC3-VB9T-2W3V-BH7FB to NXT-8WJ7-8A2H-MBYN-3W9K4.
BTER asked Nxt community to help.

The only legit way to do it (without abusing power of developers) is to ask forgers to decide what to do:

Keep forging the current branch with 50M belonging to the thief

OR

Remove the blocks after the theft and forge another branch where 50M will belong to BTER

U still have time to roll the changes back, after 720 blocks on top it will be too late. U should try to reach Jean-Luc to get NRS version that allows to manually delete recent blocks.

PS:

Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on August 15, 2014, 03:26:56 pm

Well, the rollback is cancelled. Dunno if it's good or bad coz I wanted to see what share of the stake would decide to rollback the changes. Taking into account that only small part of the nodes upgraded to 1.2.5b I can guess that only a small part agreed to play this game. But still...

freeworm · « **Reply #1 on:** August 15, 2014, 08:45:44 am »

Update:

A new version is released. Forgers, please update to this version and help us to get the funds back!
It will only affect the transactions from the stolen account.

https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/downloads/nxt-client-1.2.5d.zip

This is the dev of Bter. Confirmed.

I am really sorry for this.
Several hours ago one of our hosting accounts was hacked and the hacker got 50m NXT from this server.
It's totally our fault and we are trying our best to cover all the loss.
However 50m nxt is huge for us, we cannot afford it at the moment.

All the nxt is till in his address at

http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=ac&ac=1244396688755618309

We are trying to get help from the dev and the community to agree to rollback the blockchain to 3-4 hours ago.
We are going to cover all the loss due the rollback.

Best,
Lin @ Bter

wesley · « **Reply #2 on:** August 15, 2014, 08:48:34 am »

We need everyone to be online today and ready for forging when a new version is released.

Note: I take no stance in this, community decides on what to do..

Come-from-Beyond · « **Reply #3 on:** August 15, 2014, 08:51:26 am »

Quote from: wesleyh on August 15, 2014, 08:48:34 am

We need everyone to be online today and ready for forging when a new version is released.

60-70% (51% + some more to outpace current branch) of forging power should be enough, coz 90% protection is not active yet.

qbd1313 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 15, 2014, 08:52:40 am »

let us do it，give back to bter

freeworm · « **Reply #5 on:** August 15, 2014, 08:53:39 am »

Quote from: wesleyh on August 15, 2014, 08:48:34 am

We need everyone to be online today and ready for forging when a new version is released.

We are going to keep our cold wallet forging all though it's a small portion.

Cassius · « **Reply #6 on:** August 15, 2014, 08:54:10 am »

I say do it.
This can't be a long-term solution - we won't be able to keep doing this. But for now lets make use of the ability.

freeworm · « **Reply #7 on:** August 15, 2014, 08:54:57 am »

Quote from: qbd1313 on August 15, 2014, 08:52:40 am

let us do it，give back to bter

Thanks lot for your support! I remember you gave us good suggestions when we were processing Klee's stolen funds.

nexern · « **Reply #8 on:** August 15, 2014, 08:54:59 am »

yes, rewind.

Ezravdb · « **Reply #9 on:** August 15, 2014, 08:55:17 am »

My funds were on there!
Feel so stupid now

longzai1988 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 15, 2014, 08:56:37 am »

Maybe broadcast an email to users that we are facing this issue?

Cassius · « **Reply #11 on:** August 15, 2014, 08:57:11 am »

Quote from: longzai1988 on August 15, 2014, 08:56:37 am

Maybe broadcast an email to users that we are facing this issue?

Yes - good idea, forum message to everyone.

Squeaker · « **Reply #12 on:** August 15, 2014, 08:57:46 am »

Do we have any idea what other transactions are going to be impacted by this move?

=squeak=

Ezravdb · « **Reply #13 on:** August 15, 2014, 08:58:49 am »

I remember MintPal did the same with Vericoin

Damelon · « **Reply #14 on:** August 15, 2014, 09:00:28 am »

Quote from: Cassius on August 15, 2014, 08:57:11 am

Quote from: longzai1988 on August 15, 2014, 08:56:37 am
Maybe broadcast an email to users that we are facing this issue?

Yes - good idea, forum message to everyone.

Done!

People, we have a choice here, as stated in the OP!

WE need to decide!

CfB wants to hear whether we should do a rollback or solve this with forging!

Devs can do nothing without community support and permission.

Please post here what you want!

lezin · « **Reply #15 on:** August 15, 2014, 09:02:18 am »

I'am in, please post the version and the instruction here ...
I just have 100 000 NXT but my server is the fifth in weigth on peerexplorer... I hope it will help a bit

yassin54 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 15, 2014, 09:02:42 am »

Quote from: Damelon on August 15, 2014, 09:00:28 am

Quote from: Cassius on August 15, 2014, 08:57:11 am
Quote from: longzai1988 on August 15, 2014, 08:56:37 am
Maybe broadcast an email to users that we are facing this issue?

Yes - good idea, forum message to everyone.

Done!

People, we have a choice here, as stated in the OP!

WE need to decide!

CfB wants to hear whether we should do a rollback or solve this with forging!

Devs can do nothing without community support and permission.

Please post here what you want!

i agree

swartzfeger · « **Reply #17 on:** August 15, 2014, 09:02:56 am »

Rollback.

And bter needs to ensure us the problem has been addressed and what's being done to avoid similar situations in the future.

ceric35 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 15, 2014, 09:03:32 am »

This is a hard choice.
We can't relly rewrite the past in a decentralized system.

But we still have the time. So i'm in too.

qbd1313 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 15, 2014, 09:04:01 am »

we should do a rollback we have no choice..

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