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Re: [ANN] Jinn
May 26, 2016, 03:54:39 pm

So anything new any progress reports you would like to share ?

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
May 27, 2016, 02:29:34 pm

I think there should be a quarter report and annual report of this project.   

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
May 28, 2016, 11:14:35 pm

I think there should be a quarter report and annual report of this project.

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
May 31, 2016, 12:30:52 am

There is constant progress, but like I said earlier this month we will postpone any announcements until after IOTA is launched. After that a big summary will come and we will exit stealth mode.

IOTA spawned as a necessity for our vision of the Jinn project, so it only makes sense to first introduce IOTA and then Jinn afterwards. For anyone still wondering why it's "taking so long": it's really not. We're trying to redo computing itself here, it's not an easy task. Even big companies spend years developing their new iterations, Jinn is no iteration, it's a brand new paradigm, so patience is important.

Also we *have* to be very secretive about the inner workings and standings of the Jinn project simply due to the fact that once we launch out of stealth and we demonstrate what we have invented and created we are going to get noticed by people who got tens of billions at their disposal, we're already enough in a 'David vs Goliath' situation, let's not give Goliath more advantages:)

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
June 01, 2016, 11:15:44 pm

There is constant progress, but like I said earlier this month we will postpone any announcements until after IOTA is launched. After that a big summary will come and we will exit stealth mode.

IOTA spawned as a necessity for our vision of the Jinn project, so it only makes sense to first introduce IOTA and then Jinn afterwards. For anyone still wondering why it's "taking so long": it's really not. We're trying to redo computing itself here, it's not an easy task. Even big companies spend years developing their new iterations, Jinn is no iteration, it's a brand new paradigm, so patience is important.

Also we *have* to be very secretive about the inner workings and standings of the Jinn project simply due to the fact that once we launch out of stealth and we demonstrate what we have invented and created we are going to get noticed by people who got tens of billions at their disposal, we're already enough in a 'David vs Goliath' situation, let's not give Goliath more advantages:)

Thanks.
Seems, your statement made recent JINN price jump. ;)

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
June 09, 2016, 11:52:03 am

Is there a chance we can trade Jinn in IOTA in the future ?

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
June 10, 2016, 03:38:56 pm

Is there a chance we can trade Jinn in IOTA in the future ?

No such plans. From a personal perspective I feel that the Jinn project has shown that you can indeed crowdsource resources in a decentralized fashion, but also shown that there are indeed 'side effects'. I used to be a huge champion of crowdfunding and crowdequity, but over the last 1.5 year I have come to dislike it more and more on a general level, as you end up with A LOT of inexperienced people who does not understand what they purchased, as well as pure speculators that does not care one second for the project itself and will act accordingly, which consumes A LOT of time and energy for the people holding the crowdfund, time and energy MUCH better spent on the project itself.

The Jinn project is about reinventing computing, not asset trading, thus having further liquidity of JINN tokens is not something we're focused on. In fact at the moment it's something we oppose due to necessary steps in the future to identify JINN token holders and enforce the profit-rights they hold.

I will do a blogpost on this entire experience some time in the future to inform other people who are contemplating going the route we did with JINN. I know from other projects that a lot of the concerns I have with this kind of thing is shared by others who has gone through and conducted the same 'experiment'

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
June 18, 2016, 01:28:56 am

When Jinn is out, it will make the list.

Where Is Top 10 IoT Processor List?
http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1329732

How Intel Makes a Chip
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-09/how-intel-makes-a-chip

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
June 27, 2016, 10:24:05 am

Is there a chance we can trade Jinn in IOTA in the future ?

No such plans. From a personal perspective I feel that the Jinn project has shown that you can indeed crowdsource resources in a decentralized fashion, but also shown that there are indeed 'side effects'. I used to be a huge champion of crowdfunding and crowdequity, but over the last 1.5 year I have come to dislike it more and more on a general level, as you end up with A LOT of inexperienced people who does not understand what they purchased, as well as pure speculators that does not care one second for the project itself and will act accordingly, which consumes A LOT of time and energy for the people holding the crowdfund, time and energy MUCH better spent on the project itself.

The Jinn project is about reinventing computing, not asset trading, thus having further liquidity of JINN tokens is not something we're focused on. In fact at the moment it's something we oppose due to necessary steps in the future to identify JINN token holders and enforce the profit-rights they hold.

I will do a blogpost on this entire experience some time in the future to inform other people who are contemplating going the route we did with JINN. I know from other projects that a lot of the concerns I have with this kind of thing is shared by others who has gone through and conducted the same 'experiment'

Why do I think your talking about me here ..

I was Well aware of what I was purchasing even though you Changed things after the sale was complete you guys turned Jinn into a small part of Triangle while Jinn investors that only got 10% where footing the bill for all the expenses. (now your gonna start blablaing about time and lots of costs)
But I didn't see any Triangle Sales on the Nxt forum I might have missed it.
Most people that Invested in jinn thought they where buying a part of what you are now calling Triangle company that's not our fault that's yours for not being clearer about what was on sale.
Now you are Again complaining about people wanting some information .. do you want me to count the times that you posted news soon from stealth to live soon website will be up shortly / soon ?
Its been almost 2 years and you have Posted Very Very little information Website is NOT up. just a simple page with some info would have been fine I'm not asking you to put any blueprints on there.

"but over the last 1.5 year I have come to dislike it more and more on a general level, as you end up with A LOT of inexperienced people who does not understand what they purchased, as well as pure speculators that does not care one second for the project itself and will act accordingly, which consumes A LOT of time and energy for the people holding the crowdfund, time and energy MUCH better spent on the project itself."

Inexperienced people , Nice little comment :  a lot of the investors thought they where buying into Jinn company if that was not Clear its your inexperience showing not ours.
Speculators : why the  would u even mention this This has nothing to do with Jinn you already had the funds why does it matter if speculators make money from it.
A LOT of time and energy are u for real ? the few posts u put on here over the past 2 years are to much for u ?

I'm still a supporter because I love the idea of being part of a processing revolution.

But your "threat" to write a blog post about how horrible your investors have been treating you . . be sure to give me a link when u post it  I will be sure to clear some things up in the comments section.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2016, 07:31:00 am by btcsnip »

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
June 28, 2016, 04:41:57 pm

btcsnip I think you are right.



I'm in Jinn from the begining and today I'm afraid of what Jinn NXT Asset will become after Ardor launch (NXT 2.0)

the launch of IOTA is for the 22nd December 2016 so we are fucked until this date, no more "news".

The 12th October 2016 Ardor will start his life and NXT will be deprecated after 1 year of support. So what is the futur of Jinn Asset ? Will you move it to the Ardor futur Asset Exchange ? or it will die with old NXT ?

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
June 28, 2016, 05:00:19 pm

btcsnip I think you are right.



I'm in Jinn from the begining and today I'm afraid of what Jinn NXT Asset will become after Ardor launch (NXT 2.0)

the launch of IOTA is for the 22nd December 2016 so we are fucked until this date, no more "news".

The 12th October 2016 Ardor will start his life and NXT will be deprecated after 1 year of support. So what is the futur of Jinn Asset ? Will you move it to the Ardor futur Asset Exchange ? or it will die with old NXT ?
Hi ejp,

According to the road map, http://nxt.org/roadmap/ Ardor platform is scheduled to go live in Q2/Q3 2017.
What is happening in October this year is the the distribution of the Ardor assets, which will exist on the NXT 1.x platform.
Also, the support for NXT 1.x will at minimum last one year after the release of Ardor platform, meaning Q2/Q3 2018.

That is 1 year of time to migrate the assets from NXT 1.x to Ardor if you wish to do so.
Assets will not be migrated automatically to Ardor platform, but a manual migration must be done by the asset issuer.
Some suggestions on how to do this can be found in the road map I linked above.

Please let me know if you still have more questions and we will do what we can to answer them!
Check out the NxtLib, the .NET Framework API for the Nxt platform.

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
June 28, 2016, 05:52:32 pm

Please let me know if you still have more questions and we will do what we can to answer them!

Thx, what I was saying is that in October, Ardor will be tradable in the AE with or without offical ARDOR help, like IOTA is.


so it's mendatory for Triangle to migrate manually to Ardor.

okay so, Triangle don't forget us.

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
June 29, 2016, 11:52:20 am

btcsnip I think you are right.



I'm in Jinn from the begining and today I'm afraid of what Jinn NXT Asset will become after Ardor launch (NXT 2.0)

the launch of IOTA is for the 22nd December 2016 so we are fucked until this date, no more "news".

The 12th October 2016 Ardor will start his life and NXT will be deprecated after 1 year of support. So what is the futur of Jinn Asset ? Will you move it to the Ardor futur Asset Exchange ? or it will die with old NXT ?

Where did that date come from? Isnt launch on 11. July?
« Last Edit: June 29, 2016, 11:57:49 am by Djentriser »

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
June 29, 2016, 04:11:44 pm

Where did that date come from? Isnt launch on 11. July?

I took this information in official bitcointalk page but, my bad I didn't notice the 25th June Update date. 11th July, Coool  :o :o :o

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
June 30, 2016, 06:51:56 am

so it's mendatory for Triangle to migrate manually to Ardor.

Why? Nxt will still be running, so everything is fine without migrating.

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
June 30, 2016, 12:53:35 pm

Hi guys, Im looking to buy JINN in batch. If you would like to sell some but cant because of lack of liquidity, I will buy it from you at prices comparable to market price. Im open to negotiate. We can do it through escrow but I prefer to do it hrough AE. We will put our offers on AE at certain time and just trade it. Very simple, no problem with trust.

Pm me, thanx  :)

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
June 30, 2016, 01:00:35 pm

so it's mendatory for Triangle to migrate manually to Ardor.

Why? Nxt will still be running, so everything is fine without migrating.

it's a really big risk that the NXT will be deserted and the forge will have more chance of double spend attack.

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
July 12, 2016, 11:25:59 am


Why do I think your talking about me here ..

I was Well aware of what I was purchasing even though you Changed things after the sale was complete you guys turned Jinn into a small part of Triangle while Jinn investors that only got 10% where footing the bill for all the expenses. (now your gonna start blablaing about time and lots of costs)
But I didn't see any Triangle Sales on the Nxt forum I might have missed it.

Most people that Invested in jinn thought they where buying a part of what you are now calling Triangle company that's not our fault that's yours for not being clearer about what was on sale.

It was very clear from beginning that you buy a part of the sales profit only.
Reading AND understanding is essential before buying something - and part of buyers responsibly.
Please don't speak for others if you don't understand what you do!




Inexperienced people , Nice little comment :  a lot of the investors thought they where buying into Jinn company if that was not Clear its your inexperience showing not ours.
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Again, your "nice little comment" shows that you don't read terms and conditions and what was posted from issuer.
It shows you made decisions based on assumptions and than you where disappointed by reality.
Again, your responsibly.





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July 12, 2016, 11:34:26 am


Why? Nxt will still be running, so everything is fine without migrating.



Why?
What makes you sure that NXT will not go down after devs don't support and extend NXT anymore?
Do you really think a blockchain platform without further innovation will survive?

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Re: [ANN] Jinn
July 12, 2016, 12:11:03 pm

@Triangle here we are, IOTA was launched, so what's up on JINN ?
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