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Semibaron, I understand your concern but I don't think it's an issue.  It is my assumption (if I recall correctly from chitchat on this thread) that the IPO was to raise a bit of "safety net" funding.  If the funding isn't enough and they absolutely needed to raise more funds, they could sell new shares.  Since they held a large portion of the stake, selling an extra 5, 10, 20 percent wouldn't have much bearing on the price of the asset.

I doubt that day will come, but that's how it could work fairly in a worst case scenario.

The question: While NXT is on the decline, X was converted into $, will X be worth enough $ to complete Jinn?

Jiniri is supposed to be monetized. Price of 1 NXT may be irrelevant at all.

Sorry to bring the conversation back to a topic that has been addressed but I don't think Triangle realizes why the website is important. Even without a completed product to offer, we still want clear information about the project.

We, the supporters, have invested in your dream because we too believe in it and we believe you can make it a reality. It's ok that you don't have a finished product. You communicated your plan (through your website) and we funded the dream. For the time being, that information is your product. But now, for some strange reason, you took that information away.

Jinn is one of the few projects that I'm aware of that is being funded through crypto but has scope far beyond it. Even people who don't believe in bitcoin can still believe in Jinn. I want to be able to tell my friends to check out what you guys are doing and help garner interest, but there is nowhere to direct them.

The website doesn't have to be fancy, but at least somewhat informative. Please don't give info then take it away.

Sorry to bring the conversation back to a topic that has been addressed but I don't think Triangle realizes why the website is important. Even without a completed product to offer, we still want clear information about the project.

We, the supporters, have invested in your dream because we too believe in it and we believe you can make it a reality. It's ok that you don't have a finished product. You communicated your plan (through your website) and we funded the dream. For the time being, that information is your product. But now, for some strange reason, you took that information away.

Jinn is one of the few projects that I'm aware of that is being funded through crypto but has scope far beyond it. Even people who don't believe in bitcoin can still believe in Jinn. I want to be able to tell my friends to check out what you guys are doing and help garner interest, but there is nowhere to direct them.

The website doesn't have to be fancy, but at least somewhat informative. Please don't give info then take it away.

I can say nothing related to financial and administrative areas, but I can update on technical part.

Right now I'm working on Aftermath. I call it a Skyrim mod, but this is only for convenience of people who don't know the details. Actually, the main goal of Aftermath is to "prove the concept", not to create a mod. In plain English it means that I'll write a backend using Jiniri and then Skyrim fans will run their game that will work as a viewport to Aftermath. Some players could run, for example, Fallout New Vegas, or GTA, or Assassin's Creed and play together in the same world, but you can imagine what a mess this would be.

I had planned to run an alpha-test in a week or two, but suddenly completed the tasks much earlier. While I'm waiting for hardware to deploy the backend too, I'm writing some extra stuff for Aftermath (like a chat). The test aims to do two things - test networking part and collect statistics. Now players can only travel around the world, interact with environment and chat. They can't craft nor fight, they don't even have animation yet, only static models. This will be added later, after statistical model of the world is built.

As I said players could run any game (some modifications required though) and connect to Aftermath. The backend is game agnostic, but some info is required to prevent cheating. By travelling alpha-testers will be creating waypoints, this will allow the backend to detect cases when a player attempts to repeat such a trick - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v-R-VhpEfA - and ban him.

If someone wants to take part in the test - download the latest English version of Skyrim from Steam. A cracked version may not work (not sure, depends on changes in the executable file). There will be special tasks for the testers, their completion will be granted with in-game gold that could be used to buy houses and other stuff in Aftermath. Tasks, bug reports and special events are supposed to be the only way to get gold (I don't count selling in-game items to other players, this is mainly what the gold will be used for).

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Quote from: Funkylump on December 10, 2014, 12:02:16 pm

Sorry to bring the conversation back to a topic that has been addressed but I don't think Triangle realizes why the website is important. Even without a completed product to offer, we still want clear information about the project.

We, the supporters, have invested in your dream because we too believe in it and we believe you can make it a reality. It's ok that you don't have a finished product. You communicated your plan (through your website) and we funded the dream. For the time being, that information is your product. But now, for some strange reason, you took that information away.

Jinn is one of the few projects that I'm aware of that is being funded through crypto but has scope far beyond it. Even people who don't believe in bitcoin can still believe in Jinn. I want to be able to tell my friends to check out what you guys are doing and help garner interest, but there is nowhere to direct them.

The website doesn't have to be fancy, but at least somewhat informative. Please don't give info then take it away.

I can understand your sentiment, but we have indeed given info in this thread and updates. I realize that of course as an investor you want as much info as possible, but from week to week there is often no more to report than "X more lines of code written" and "Dicussed CPU architecture with X" and "Our electrical engineers did this thing" and that is exactly the sort of updates I have given. Plus we've already informed everyone that they can check out the repository on github.com/Come-from-Beyond/


The reason we decided against giving out the sort of updates I think you are more interested in E.G. future plans for Jinn and Jiniri, how they will fit into the market, strategic choices etc. is simply because we want to protect your investment by getting to some milestones (release Jiniri Limited and Aftermath as Proof of Concept) before we open ourselves up to more competition. Don't forget that the competition got tens of billions of dollars, we don't even have a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of that, plus most of it is in crypto. This is David vs 10 Goliaths, and while we feel confident that once again David will win, we don't want to make it extra hard on ourselves just yet.


But like we've promised, as soon as Jiniri Limited and Aftermath can be released, we will release the full website and at that time start light marketing for the entire project. At that point we'd love everyones help to spread our vision.

I think you misunderstand Funkylump.

He is looking for the information we all read before we participated with the dutch auction.

He can't find this information, because you took the website offline. 

Quote from: Funkylump on December 10, 2014, 12:02:16 pm

Sorry to bring the conversation back to a topic that has been addressed but I don't think Triangle realizes why the website is important. Even without a completed product to offer, we still want clear information about the project.

We, the supporters, have invested in your dream because we too believe in it and we believe you can make it a reality. It's ok that you don't have a finished product. You communicated your plan (through your website) and we funded the dream. For the time being, that information is your product. But now, for some strange reason, you took that information away.

Jinn is one of the few projects that I'm aware of that is being funded through crypto but has scope far beyond it. Even people who don't believe in bitcoin can still believe in Jinn. I want to be able to tell my friends to check out what you guys are doing and help garner interest, but there is nowhere to direct them.

The website doesn't have to be fancy, but at least somewhat informative. Please don't give info then take it away.

I can say nothing related to financial and administrative areas, but I can update on technical part.

Right now I'm working on Aftermath. I call it a Skyrim mod, but this is only for convenience of people who don't know the details. Actually, the main goal of Aftermath is to "prove the concept", not to create a mod. In plain English it means that I'll write a backend using Jiniri and then Skyrim fans will run their game that will work as a viewport to Aftermath. Some players could run, for example, Fallout New Vegas, or GTA, or Assassin's Creed and play together in the same world, but you can imagine what a mess this would be.

I had planned to run an alpha-test in a week or two, but suddenly completed the tasks much earlier. While I'm waiting for hardware to deploy the backend too, I'm writing some extra stuff for Aftermath (like a chat). The test aims to do two things - test networking part and collect statistics. Now players can only travel around the world, interact with environment and chat. They can't craft nor fight, they don't even have animation yet, only static models. This will be added later, after statistical model of the world is built.

As I said players could run any game (some modifications required though) and connect to Aftermath. The backend is game agnostic, but some info is required to prevent cheating. By travelling alpha-testers will be creating waypoints, this will allow the backend to detect cases when a player attempts to repeat such a trick - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v-R-VhpEfA - and ban him.

If someone wants to take part in the test - download the latest English version of Skyrim from Steam. A cracked version may not work (not sure, depends on changes in the executable file). There will be special tasks for the testers, their completion will be granted with in-game gold that could be used to buy houses and other stuff in Aftermath. Tasks, bug reports and special events are supposed to be the only way to get gold (I don't count selling in-game items to other players, this is mainly what the gold will be used for).

ok, is there a first task? how to start?

Yes. Exactly as Fatih87SK said.

as someone mentioned before, here is a copy of the original information you were looking for - https://nxtforum.org/(chinese)/jinnlabs-com/

http://aftermath.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/4-alpha-1/

is it necessary to own Skyrim for the alpha testing?