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Re: New forum?
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2016, 08:32:49 am »

Let's see what is on table and vote. Pros and cons for every option. Let's make wise choice not a hasty one.

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Re: New forum?
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2016, 11:57:17 am »

Let's see what is on table and vote. Pros and cons for every option. Let's make wise choice not a hasty one.

I don't think this is something to vote on.

Just take the lead, create it, and convince others to come over.

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Re: New forum?
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2016, 12:37:06 pm »

Pros and cons for every option. Let's make wise choice not a hasty one.
Yes. Especially since there's no rush, because afaik this forum isn't broken at all.
Creating a new one will take lots of scarce time and effort, that's maybe better spent on other things.
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Re: New forum?
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2016, 12:50:18 pm »

Pros and cons for every option. Let's make wise choice not a hasty one.
Yes. Especially since there's no rush, because afaik this forum isn't broken at all.
Creating a new one will take lots of scarce time and effort, that's maybe better spent on other things.

It will only take time from those that feel motivated to realize it.

The rest can just judge the new forum and decide whether they like to switch or not.

Anyone interested to set it up, take the lead?

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Re: New forum?
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2016, 12:00:08 pm »

Common guys, let's do this.

Who could help me set one up?

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Re: New forum?
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2016, 01:04:18 pm »

Set up a new forum? What name? Where would you host it?
How about the old content? Will it split the users in two groups, those who switched and those who haven't?

I'm sorry, I think it's a really bad idea to do such a thing haphazardly if it's more than just a new skin over the current forum.
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Re: New forum?
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2016, 02:44:32 pm »

Set up a new forum? What name? Where would you host it?
How about the old content? Will it split the users in two groups, those who switched and those who haven't?

I'm sorry, I think it's a really bad idea to do such a thing haphazardly if it's more than just a new skin over the current forum.

I agree, I'm only interested in the new skin part. But is it possible to just have the new skin here?

Is it possible to transfer posts, users and passwords to the new software and put it up here?

Would also be nice to have the applaud/spank thing  ;D


Maybe it's not worth the trouble but this forum looks somewhat dated compared to these newcomers.

NXT needs to stay on top, the new kid on the block.  ;)

Maybe I should set out a bounty?
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Re: New forum?
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2016, 02:58:43 pm »

I think someday we use the forum inside NXT client, and this web forum is only a skin which fetch all data from NXT blockchain.

And that's a big step. :)
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Re: New forum?
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2016, 03:09:21 pm »

I think someday we use the forum inside NXT client, and this web forum is only a skin which fetch all data from NXT blockchain.

And that's a big step. :)

That's an idea!  8)

I've been thinking about this for some time.

Is it feasible in the NXT 2.0 design?

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Re: New forum?
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2016, 03:23:34 pm »

You don't change a forum because of the skin (or the color..), you develop a new skin, choose the default one, and let the users change it.
There are many skin for SMF.

Choose one here : http://www.smfpacks.com/page/sa=themes and ask admins to integrate, It can become default but just let me choose to use the original one because I find this white boards too flashy for my tired eyes.

This is, in general, a very bad idea to migrate, like peter2516 said.
You need very strong reasons to do it, like functionalities that you really want and can not have otherwise because it is most of the time difficult, you will probably be missing old stuff and part of users will not like it. Old users do not like changes (perhaps because it shows them they do not control..)

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Re: New forum?
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2016, 03:43:45 pm »

I think someday we use the forum inside NXT client, and this web forum is only a skin which fetch all data from NXT blockchain.

And that's a big step. :)

That's an idea!  8)

I've been thinking about this for some time.

Is it feasible in the NXT 2.0 design?

Its probably feasible now with prunable messages + archive nodes + reading unconfirmed transactions. The problem is not in the data but in all the functionalities this client plugin must have.
On should start with available open source stuff then reconstruct how it works regarding the server side.
But I'm not convinced it will work very well, you will miss things that are not calculated by the nxt server (user stats, last messages no read..), your browser would have to do that = programation, and once you change browser or data size exeeded, it must be done again.
I think there could definitively be a chat, chanels and encrypted ones (isnt it what tty is doing ?), a plugin for it should be nice, you only have to take messages when the transaction is unconfirmed.

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Re: New forum?
« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2016, 03:47:34 pm »

If everyone is happy with the features, it would be great if users could choose the skin they want to use.

And just bookmark these for quick access: :)
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?action=unread
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?action=unreadreplies
I hardly ever see https://nxtforum.org/index.php
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Re: New forum?
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2016, 04:39:12 pm »

If everyone is happy with the features, it would be great if users could choose the skin they want to use.

And just bookmark these for quick access: :)
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?action=unread
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?action=unreadreplies
I hardly ever see https://nxtforum.org/index.php

Thanks Peter, that's a good tip :)

Is there also a page with just 'recent posts' independent whether you read them or not, like is available at bottom home page?

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Re: New forum?
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2016, 04:41:28 pm »

You don't change a forum because of the skin (or the color..), you develop a new skin, choose the default one, and let the users change it.
There are many skin for SMF.

Well, my motivation is mainly first impression to new users.

These forums of iota and nem look really good in my opinion.


Nxt forum first impression to me would be: oh my god. Where do I start?

Maybe cutting out 90% of all these subforums and consolidating them in a few big ones would be a great move already.

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Re: New forum?
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2016, 04:43:48 pm »

Another idea would be a new standard skin that fits with the nxt look.

So that it fits with the nxt nrs client, and the nxt.org website.

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Re: New forum?
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2016, 05:02:55 pm »

I think someday we use the forum inside NXT client, and this web forum is only a skin which fetch all data from NXT blockchain.

And that's a big step. :)

That's an idea!  8)

I've been thinking about this for some time.

Is it feasible in the NXT 2.0 design?

Its probably feasible now with prunable messages + archive nodes + reading unconfirmed transactions. The problem is not in the data but in all the functionalities this client plugin must have.
On should start with available open source stuff then reconstruct how it works regarding the server side.
But I'm not convinced it will work very well, you will miss things that are not calculated by the nxt server (user stats, last messages no read..), your browser would have to do that = programation, and once you change browser or data size exeeded, it must be done again.
I think there could definitively be a chat, chanels and encrypted ones (isnt it what tty is doing ?), a plugin for it should be nice, you only have to take messages when the transaction is unconfirmed.



Maybe we do not make new software or plugins, we only make protocols, at least at first.

Just take building a NXTwitter on the NXT blockchain for examples:

Instead of building a whole new fancy website or software, we make a protocols:

1. messages sent to genesis account or him/herself is a public tweet.
2. unencrypted messages sent to other account is a @ reply and those encrypted is a direct message.
3. account alias as display name.

So right now the NXTwitter is already there. Anyone can build a website or plugins to show a fancy interface, and without them you still can tweet.

Then of course we need extra protocols to deal with favs and followers...


Maybe we can build a forum(or other applications on NXT blockchain) like the same way, I think this is better than building a fancy plugins at first and then everyone has to install it and then developers no longer maintain it and then somebody start building a new one from scratch.  ::)

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Re: New forum?
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2016, 05:28:33 pm »

Transaction fees...
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Re: New forum?
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2016, 03:24:13 pm »

Just playing around with buddypress... :)

http://nxt.thewiring.com/

No SSL installed.
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Re: New forum?
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2016, 03:37:36 pm »


Just playing around with buddypress... :)

http://nxt.thewiring.com/

No SSL installed.

I am waiting for my registration mail ;)

Ahah, should be in the spam. :)
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Re: New forum?
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2016, 03:58:01 pm »



Just playing around with buddypress... :)

http://nxt.thewiring.com/

No SSL installed.

I am waiting for my registration mail ;)

Ahah, should be in the spam. :)

I've activated you manually... I guess the registration sender mail is very weird... ;)
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