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MRX

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Forum main page should be reworked, again!
« on: February 18, 2016, 04:08:21 pm »

I haven't paying much attention to organization of main page because the way I am accessing this forum is via long-time ago bookmarked page https://nxtforum.org/alias-system/aliases-for-sale-or-rent/ but then I went to friends computer (no bookmark there!) and ran into major trouble finding that same page, one linked above. I was shocked to find out page is now located at Nxt Forum > Nxt Discussion > Core Development > Feature Technical Discussion > Alias System directory, holy shit, that is insane!!! So one of the key components of NXT and almost all other key ones are now burried to place hardly anyone looks at but at the https://nxtforum.org/index.php there is a ton of bullshits very visibly listed. For example:

ORA, ELEMS, LIFE, NXTNAUT have a direct link on main page, ohh so important for NXT in a whole, not realy!
NXT Plugins with only 38 topics is also right there at main page, fucking great man, more exposure to potentialy dangerous 3rd-party stuff!
NXT Projects childboards all with direct link to stuff no one realy cares about, cluttering available space to extreme!
Games has 2 fucking topics!
Forked Chain's Bear Pit has 7 fucking topics!
Morgue which should be at the bottom of page, not at the middle, has 29 topics!
CFC has 9 topics!
Other languages are rarely used but has it's own section, why not damn childboards?

All in all, it should come to no surprise NXT is now valued 3 times less than DOGE which was once, not so long ago, dethroned at top 5 if I can recall correctly. Just ask some noob to NXT what he thinks of this forum and what he learned about NXT in let's say 1 hour, you will see that he stumbled mostly upon stuff of secondary or tertiary importance. Or of no fucking importance whatsoever! Ask him what he thinks of Alias system or any other subsystem right now burried at https://nxtforum.org/feature-technical-discussion/ and you gonna see him confused, "Don't know what are those".

This forum looks no better than some shitcoin forum, it is actualy worse because at shitcoin forum once can identify and check all important stuff in under 5 minutes. But here, good luck stumbling upon Alias system or anything else of true importance in few hours, pathetic.
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Re: Forum main page should be reworked, again!
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2016, 04:28:18 pm »

Well, I was quite speechless after reading this rude rant, but then I followed the link to your (surely very important) "Aliases for sale or rent" topic and I realized MRX = subSTRATA. Now it makes a lot more sense (for whoever does not know subSTRATA, he was arguably the first in line for a Troll of the Year 2015 award in this community).

For one, to your connection of the market cap of Nxt to the forum index layout, I can just say "No Comment". And if some boards in the default index annoy you, you can personalize your forum index page in Profile > Modify Profile > Ignore Boards Options.

About the rest of your post, if you have any constructive proposals to reorganize the default index, and your proposals receive support, we can of course work in them. The index went through an important reorganization and simplification few months ago, and there's always further adjustments that can be made after a proper discussion. But your tone, as usual, doesn't help at all to take in consideration what you say.
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Re: Forum main page should be reworked, again!
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2016, 04:38:02 pm »

My tone is right, I could propose a new layout and so much more but I have had enough of negative experinces with you NXTers since coin was created, even at times I was playing totaly nice and fair, just like everyone else who was profit, fame and status oriented within a new community. No good has ever come from any of it. Right now I can bet in 100 BTC that any sort of my proposal and suggestion here would be strongly looked at through prism of who I am (which proves you are stupid, putting too much importance on who is messanger and not a message) hence discarded. So why should I waste my time on it?

The only satisfaction I have around here is to point to what is wrong thus vent out. For anything else you have lost me.
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Re: Forum main page should be reworked, again!
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2016, 04:50:18 pm »

Who you are and what you've done or said in the past is only relevant as it relates to a rude rant we just read. Any proposals are considered, but what are you asking us to do? To ignore someone who does not seem to care about the forum guidelines, and doesn't mind insulting people? No, your tone is not right. Take any proposal of any kind published in the forum over the last year, and if you cannot see the difference, maybe it is you who needs a new prism.

If you have a proposal, why don't you try to simply post it away for discussion? It's as simple as this: if it makes sense, and it looks good to the community, it is applied. But if it is you who jumps in aggressively and won't play by the forum agreements, what do you expect? Then it appears to be you who is getting lost, by yourself. I don't think it is that complicated, and it is up to you really.

Also, to try to not derail this anymore, let us keep in mind that NxtForum is a place for discussion (devs, community, projects, etc) and announcements, while an introduction to the Nxt platform and its features should be addressed to http://nxt.org and https://nxtwiki.org.
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Re: Forum main page should be reworked, again!
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2016, 05:01:24 pm »

Other languages are rarely used but each has it's own section, why not damn childboards? There it is, already proposed change to main page, let's see how it goes. I will not add any more of my comments on that or other matters debated here, instead I will just occassionaly check for updates here. Cya!
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Re: Forum main page should be reworked, again!
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2016, 06:36:49 pm »

It is true that some language boards have barely no activity, but others (like Chinese, German, French and Spanish, for instance) are usually active. There is a one-click action that any user can do - just hit at the minus sign besides the Other Languages section name to collapse it and reduce the index page size that much. The setting will be remembered in your profile and the section will stay minimized every time you access the forum index, and it is a good solution to avoid pushing other language communities to the back.

That said, to anyone else who thought about the issue: if you'd still prefer the Other Languages boards to be smaller by default, let us know here.
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Re: Forum main page should be reworked, again!
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2016, 10:13:44 pm »

I do agree the amount of subforums is way too much. Would be nice to see them cut back dramatically to make it possible and more attractive to visit them.

I think a forum with no subforums whatsoever, no pinned posts, so that you get a list of all threads in order of latest activity would be cool  ;D

Thanks for all your great work Vanbreuk!!!  8)

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Re: Forum main page should be reworked, again!
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2016, 11:21:26 pm »

Thanks to you for your support :)

Following with the point behind MRX's OP, I understand the need to simplify further the index page, and maybe alter layout order. Since Damelon and I discussed the last major cleanup, there's been a few ideas here and there to make the forum as usable as possible. It makes sense that, after having revamped Nxt.Org and the Nxt Wiki, we have a look at the Nxt Forum - in the index page and beyond.

We considered moving to a brand new forum, but there was no hands-down forum software choice, and the Slack trend also suggested that having a Slack/Ryver type of chat while keeping NxtForum for persistent discussions and reference was reasonable. However. there's a few things we could do:

- Place in a visible place in the forum header links to http://nxt.org and https://nxtwiki.org. This is a priority IMO.
- Define the layout in such a way that default index will show most sections collapsed. This should familiarize new users with the collapsible nature of the forums and help them customize their index page, while also allowing a bit better to "explore" the forum instead of finding a lot of packed text.
- Customize a bit the default forum theme to match better the current corporate Nxt palette.
- We could move the "Recent Posts" section to the top, below the menu and the current topic route. I've found myself scrolling down way too often and I'm hardly going to be the only one.
- ...and of course some minor reorganization in a few sections.

Thoughts?
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Re: Forum main page should be reworked, again!
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2016, 06:16:45 pm »

I think a forum with no subforums whatsoever, no pinned posts, so that you get a list of all threads in order of latest activity would be cool  ;D

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?action=recent
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Re: Forum main page should be reworked, again!
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2016, 06:36:35 pm »

I think a forum with no subforums whatsoever, no pinned posts, so that you get a list of all threads in order of latest activity would be cool  ;D

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?action=recent

Recent posts at the bottom of the home page is what I use already most of the time. It has better overview than this recent posts page as you get just the thread title and user and can choose which post to see.

Problem is that it is only last 20 so I miss many threads that have activity.
 

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