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kodtycoon

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Re: Digital Goods Store Info
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2014, 02:59:32 am »

what if the seller doesnt actually send anything though? then the buyer gets screwed and the seller doesnt win or loose? i think this is where a trusted physical goods escrow service would come into play.. once the seller builds up enough sales they would have the rep to not need escrow. i think a 3rd party would have to get involved in this one atleast for sellers with little or no reputation.

Yeah, good point.  You could make the 2nd AT option a mediator, so if buyer doesn't receive item, Nxt will automatically be sent to 3rd party mediator who will resolve the issue.  Since it would be a rare case, the 3rd party wouldn't be inundated and there would be no incentive to scam.  I elect Anon!
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no incentive perhaps.. but some allot of people are just dicks for no reason!
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Re: Digital Goods Store Info
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2014, 10:28:56 am »

Wouldn't the trust and monitoring issue be solved if you'd let people each issue their own marketplace.

Similar to how you issue an asset you would then issue a goods store. It's like creating your own Ebay for 1000 NXT.

The market can then decide which of the Ebay's they trust most and where they will put their goods for sale. The creation of the store makes you the implicit owner of it and allows you to remove items that are for sale.

Eventually companies can offer some form of customer protection against scamming sellers, they could offer money back schemes and ban the sellers from their market.

Owners of a market could even impose a fee for each item sold with which they can use to cover the cost of administrating the market or use it to pay back scammed customers. This fee could be set on creation of your market and preferably be adjustable.
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Re: Digital Goods Store Info
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2014, 04:57:48 pm »

Would love to hear from CFB (or anyone who has info) here on how the Digital Goods Store will function. Will it be a trust-less application? Will it utilize AE or AM?  Looking forward to it!

DGS uses its own type of transactions, not AM.

The workflow is quite simple:

1. Alice lists goods
2. Bob purchases them
3. Alice delivers them (can give a discount for bulk purchases)
4. Bob can send a feedback
5. Alice can do a refund
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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2014, 05:23:20 pm »

Wouldn't the trust and monitoring issue be solved if you'd let people each issue their own marketplace.

Similar to how you issue an asset you would then issue a goods store. It's like creating your own Ebay for 1000 NXT.

The market can then decide which of the Ebay's they trust most and where they will put their goods for sale. The creation of the store makes you the implicit owner of it and allows you to remove items that are for sale.

Eventually companies can offer some form of customer protection against scamming sellers, they could offer money back schemes and ban the sellers from their market.

Owners of a market could even impose a fee for each item sold with which they can use to cover the cost of administrating the market or use it to pay back scammed customers. This fee could be set on creation of your market and preferably be adjustable.


I really like this idea.  Where each user can host their own market which can be distributed via magnet link.   I'm excited about the digital goods store from CFB and think people can build some really neat options on top. 
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Re: Digital Goods Store Info
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2014, 06:43:44 pm »

Would love to hear from CFB (or anyone who has info) here on how the Digital Goods Store will function. Will it be a trust-less application? Will it utilize AE or AM?  Looking forward to it!

DGS uses its own type of transactions, not AM.

The workflow is quite simple:

1. Alice lists goods
2. Bob purchases them
3. Alice delivers them (can give a discount for bulk purchases)
4. Bob can send a feedback
5. Alice can do a refund

Please keep in mind, that Alice might have multiple products (like different sorts of weed). So when Bob is giving Feedback it should be about the product and not about Alice in general.
When this is going to be working, this could be NXTs breakthrogh. Probably the darkweb would be its first adapter and thats a good thing. Since it would bring lots of new people into NXT.
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« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2014, 06:50:46 pm »

Please keep in mind, that Alice might have multiple products (like different sorts of weed). So when Bob is giving Feedback it should be about the product and not about Alice in general.

Feedback is given on purchased goods only.
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Re: Digital Goods Store Info
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2014, 08:58:28 pm »

I remember having read that there shall be an IPO of the DGS. When is it planned?
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« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2014, 09:39:19 pm »

I remember having read that there shall be an IPO of the DGS. When is it planned?

DGS would be part of Nxt core. What IPO?

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« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2014, 10:31:13 pm »

I remember having read that there shall be an IPO of the DGS. When is it planned?

Probably mistaken with something else.
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Re: Digital Goods Store Info
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2014, 07:10:36 am »

CfB searched for a guy who could run an IPO for him for his idea which uses digital goods store.
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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2014, 07:11:46 pm »

Is the DGS separate from the also-discussed Reputation System or are they integrated somehow?


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Re: Digital Goods Store Info
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2014, 07:27:15 pm »

Is there any estimate time on when this will be implemented? 
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« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2014, 07:28:32 pm »

Is the DGS separate from the also-discussed Reputation System or are they integrated somehow?


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« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2014, 07:29:31 pm »

Is there any estimate time on when this will be implemented?

Taking into account current speed of how new features r released... In 2-3 months. Maybe.
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« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2014, 07:43:45 pm »

Is there any estimate time on when this will be implemented?

Taking into account current speed of how new features r released... In 2-3 months. Maybe.

This should be a priority, at least the basic functionality of just listing items for sales. It has potential to make nxt useful for real life use. The reputations system (or whatever it is called) can come later and that can probably be dealt much better by third party forums (even this forum)  by users themselves.

 
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« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2014, 09:13:48 pm »

This should be a priority, at least the basic functionality of just listing items for sales. It has potential to make nxt useful for real life use. The reputations system (or whatever it is called) can come later and that can probably be dealt much better by third party forums (even this forum)  by users themselves.

Listing/delisting is already done.
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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2014, 09:40:05 pm »

This should be a priority, at least the basic functionality of just listing items for sales. It has potential to make nxt useful for real life use. The reputations system (or whatever it is called) can come later and that can probably be dealt much better by third party forums (even this forum)  by users themselves.

Listing/delisting is already done.

Cool.. why 3 months then? Bring it on testNet so we can try it. Plus that give client developers more time to tune it
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« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2014, 09:56:40 pm »

Is there any estimate time on when this will be implemented?

Taking into account current speed of how new features r released... In 2-3 months. Maybe.

Alright, well at least you'll be stuck with us for a few more months, that is good.
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« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2014, 10:05:22 pm »

Is there any estimate time on when this will be implemented?

Taking into account current speed of how new features r released... In 2-3 months. Maybe.

This should be a priority, at least the basic functionality of just listing items for sales. It has potential to make nxt useful for real life use. The reputations system (or whatever it is called) can come later and that can probably be dealt much better by third party forums (even this forum)  by users themselves.

 


I could not agree more. The potential of the DGS is as least as big as the one of the Asset Exchange.
It should also be much more feasable for NXT marketing than any other NXT feature.
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« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2014, 10:41:37 pm »

Cool.. why 3 months then? Bring it on testNet so we can try it. Plus that give client developers more time to tune it

Compile and use it - https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/src/6a3155af8e06f0c0b9bbabfe598b62b4dfc8f468/?at=feature%2Ftf
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