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« on: November 28, 2015, 08:43:25 pm »

In lie of the recent loss of Forex funds (https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/lqdeix-loss-of-forex-funds/), I've decided to reduce the dividend payout to 50% of November's profits in order to start recouping the loss of funds.  Next month will be 55% and so on until we're back to 70%.
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Re: General Information
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2015, 11:06:27 pm »

Will you be trading forex again?
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2015, 06:25:35 pm »

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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2016, 12:27:32 am »

I have 2 questions I'd like to pose to investors or interested investors that I'd really like feedback on.

1) I still don't feel great about how I'm calculating profit.  For most of the time I've ran LQD, I've calculated profit strictly off of the trade profit numbers.  Regardless of the difference in fund value, I used those numbers to pay dividends.  The obvious problem with that, is it's not always reflective of the fund's profitability.  I recently changed this to calculate strictly off of fund value.  At month's end, I lock down the live balance totals, pay dividend and then continue into next month. The problem with this is, that it doesn't really count profit for the month because it has to overcome the subtraction of the previous month's.  Finally, what I think I'd like to do is continue what I'm doing, except subtract dividends before calculating current month's profits.

2) The current summary sheet that I've been using is too complicated for the average interested investors.  What can I do to explain LQD's profits in a way that's easier to understand?  Should I use a graph/bar chart?  If so, what should I use for x/y axis?  If you're reading this and are just finding out that LQD is a trading fund, what numbers would you like to see to help you decide whether you want to invest?

Thanks everyone. All questions/comments are appreciated.

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Re: General Information
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2016, 08:02:54 am »

2. P/L over time. x axis is time, y axis is profit bar.
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2016, 03:59:24 pm »

Finally, what I think I'd like to do is continue what I'm doing, except subtract dividends before calculating current month's profits.

i think thats the best solution.
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2016, 11:24:30 am »

Hi. New user here. Could the faq at liquidtech.info please be updated? I was looking for info and the faq would have been the easiest way to get it.

My questions then:
1. How do i "join"? Do i just buy LQD on the asset exchange and hold it and i'll receive dividend automatically on that account?
2. Do you pay out dividend in NXT or in something else?

(so basically the first two questions in the faq).

Thanks :)
« Last Edit: July 10, 2016, 10:50:46 pm by Bonez0r »
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2016, 12:19:14 am »

Hi. New user here. Could the faq at liquidtech.info please be updated? I was looking for info and the faq would have been the easiest way to get it.

My questions then:
1. How do i "join"? Do i just buy LQD on the asset exchange and hold it and i'll receive dividend automatically on that account?
2. Do you pay out dividend in NXT or in something else?

(so basically the first two questions in the faq).

Thanks :)

me too, im confuse,
so i just buy LQD at poloniex poloniex.com/exchange#btc_lqd,
and im eligible to receive devidend, "auto distribute" in my NXT poloniex account?
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2016, 11:32:44 pm »

Hi. New user here. Could the faq at liquidtech.info please be updated? I was looking for info and the faq would have been the easiest way to get it.

My questions then:
1. How do i "join"? Do i just buy LQD on the asset exchange and hold it and i'll receive dividend automatically on that account?
2. Do you pay out dividend in NXT or in something else?

(so basically the first two questions in the faq).

Thanks :)

me too, im confuse,
so i just buy LQD at poloniex poloniex.com/exchange#btc_lqd,
and im eligible to receive devidend, "auto distribute" in my NXT poloniex account?

Great questions guys and I apologize for the incomplete FAQ. However, it's done now.  Check it out here: http://liquidtech.info/faq Please feel free to followup if your questions aren't answered.

Thanks for your interest.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2016, 12:11:51 am »

Great questions guys and I apologize for the incomplete FAQ. However, it's done now.  Check it out here: http://liquidtech.info/faq Please feel free to followup if your questions aren't answered.

Thanks for your interest.
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Re: General Information
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2016, 05:10:05 am »

Hey,

Do you have a clear plan of the % of divs payed out for the next months ? It's currently still at 35% as the capital is approaching what it was before the hack.

Thanks
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2016, 12:10:54 pm »

August went from about 60btc profit to 50btc loss is one day. What happened? :S
Price on both the asset exchange and Poloniex have also plummeted.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2016, 12:19:53 pm by Bonez0r »
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2016, 02:24:15 pm »

August went from about 60btc profit to 50btc loss is one day. What happened? :S
Price on both the asset exchange and Poloniex have also plummeted.

Just yesterday Poloniex announced they are delisting LQD (among others). I wonder if it's related?

Here is a post I made about Poloniex's delistings: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=11763.msg223654#msg223654
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2016, 11:51:36 pm »

Looks like we were short XMR with half the value of the fund.

LibertyNow, please issue a statement. This appears to be a reckless use of investors funds.

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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2016, 06:59:13 am »

This sux. The bots losses in a single trade should be limited. Asset price didnt crash too bad though considering the perfect storm situation we have together with the polo delisting.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2016, 06:40:28 pm »

...and now the fx guy is messing it up once again. Please, let's do these two things:
1. Limit the bots losses in a single trade to a certain percentage of the capital (mabye 10 or so).
2. stop fx'ing immediately. The performance has been awful anyway compared to the bots profit (under normal circumstances). And now you might not have enough funds to do both.

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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2016, 07:04:00 pm »

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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2016, 11:49:55 pm »

Hey everyone, I understand that the loss and trade size is quite large, but this is an aggro fund.  You can't grow a fund at 50%+ a month without this risk.  There's a lot of Monday quarterbacking going on right now. It's not like it was obvious to everyone that XMR was going to pump 300%+ in a few days due to minor news, a pump group, and Poloniex breaking the wallet so no deposits could be made.  This is the first time this kind of thing has happened in a relatively stable market like XMR which is also being used as a base currency.  I code the bot for historical data and guesses at future pricing.

As I've mentioned several times, the software is beta and it's a high risk investment.  I will keep fine tuning and working on the adjustment algorithm.

With regards to Poloniex, they haven't responded to my multiple requests for dividend payout since Aug. 1.  It was a weird coincidence that they delisted as soon as that XMR pump happened.  I still have not heard back from they why, but I'm guessing they're probably tired of having to distribute the dividend each month.
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2016, 12:07:17 am »

I know i'm your partner and everyone will say that i'm by your side regardless, but you actually spoke the truth here. Crypto markets are nuts. That's why i don't touch them...

The bot is doing more than fine, except for the major pump/dump problem. As soon as you manage to develop the algo that can resist that ... well, i see no obstacles from that point on.
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2016, 11:32:46 am »

Bad news. I hope you will keep going regardless. The fund is still profitable overall if you include the dividend payouts. You have more than enough to keep trading, that's all that matters.

I am sure you can find some solutions to the pump&dump problem. Don't trade on margin. Don't go all in on one coin. Set a more aggressive stop loss. Don't trade during periods of high volatility. Yes, this will reduce the profits, but it's better than losing almost everything at regular intervals. No one demanded the fund to grow 50% per month.

If the fund was liquidated at the current size of 77 BTC, each asset would be worth 0.00023 btc, way under the current market price. That's not a good resolution for investors.
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