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Latest Nxt Client 1.11.12 - NEW RELEASE: Ardor 2.0.13 MAIN NET - The Ardor genesis block happened at 0:00 January 1st

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Author Topic: Re: NXTCrypto.org leased forging pool ~~now processing AMs for withdrawals~~  (Read 56436 times)

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thanks, but im spending all my time now on dev for a new system that will work on Ardor.  im completely redoing everything about everything -  instead of the mess of cron, perl, mysql, and php, itll be in java with its own h2 database, and probably jetty and JSP.  at some point id like to set it up as a plugin to NRS.

ill most likely keep this new one private for some time after ardor launch, since ive spent so much effort on it.

I did make the existing one public, some time ago, but it is such a convoluted mess how it worked that no one else ever got it to work.  im actually embarassed to an extent of the disarray that it operates in.  i dont even think the stuff I made public works anymore, there were some API changes made that caused me to have to redo some things.

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All,  im pleased to announce that the Ardor pool will be ready at genesis block.  The site is http://theardorpool.dynu.net and its currently running on the testnet blockchain.  Ive got everything completed except payouts programming logic.

I did the backend in java and h2,and the frontend in java servlets.  This is probably thousands of times more efficient than the old way I did it, with perl and mysql, and php frontend, and having the backend checking every single transaction of every single block that came in.

Also, with the new pool, only 720 blocks will be required for earnings to be classified as "confirmed".  And payout AMs wont need any number of confirmations, they will be immediate.

Im doing the payout part here last since it will be much more different - payout AMs have to be on the IGNIS chain, and those deal with bundlers and minimum rates, etc and so on.  So ill need to figure out the best way to handle it.  But ive got all this done now, the rest wont take much longer, will be 100% ready for production genesis.
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Nice to know and good work!

Could you make a leasing transaction to have the same effect as an AM transaction for the payout? That would be more optimal for the pool users and reduce the fees.
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im not quite sure what you mean?  do you mean if someone sends a new lease, then the pool should detect that and that should trigger the payoff?

thats interesting, I could probably work that in at some point in the near future.  maybe not by genesis though but its a good idea, i like it.

actually with IGNIS messages, fees should be very low.  i can prob just do payouts at the end of each lease period.  and continue to accept AMs as payment requests as well.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2017, 01:23:26 pm by forkedchain »
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im not quite sure what you mean?  do you mean if someone sends a new lease, then the pool should detect that and that should trigger the payoff?

This is exactly what I mean.
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ok i got it.  sounds like something I will try to get done.  heres the plan

when a user sends the lease out transaction, if they attach a message to the lease transaction where the message just includes a number, then if at the end of this *particular* lease period (and that particular lease period only), if they have that much Ardor to be paid after fees, then the pool will automatically send those earnings.

no promised yet, let me chew on this.
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^^ This would be neat.

Could also add that if the number attached is 0, then the pool should pay all what is due at the end of the lease.
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well, after looking into it, i don think itll be possible any time soon.  this will be VERY tricky.

its because Ardor fees are dynamic.  they change.  not sure why/when/what/how, but they do change around, even on main chain.  I think for now the best way is to continue to do it the same way.  at least with Ardor payouts from the pool, the IGNIS message fees will probably be very low.  What Ive done is provide the pool the ability to show what the current min fee is at any given time.  people can get this information and when the fee for the pool to transfer their Ardor to them is to their liking, they can send an IGNIS message (once again, this fee is very low) to the pool.  The new Ardor pool will immed send payouts.  no more waiting 1440 blocks!
« Last Edit: July 06, 2017, 03:05:03 am by forkedchain »
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is the nxt forging pool still up? i cant find any info on where to lease coins?

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yes its still running.

http://198.211.103.222/status.php

just lease to NXT-K5KL-23DJ-3XLK-22222 from your NRS client, and after 1440 blocks, youll show up in the list and start earning.
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Hello,

I have finished my lease around a week back; how do I get my rewards? (in the first place how do I know if I have had any?)

Thanks.
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http://198.211.103.222/confirmedearnings.php  look for your numeric account in that list, and it will tell you how much youve earned.

to requrest a payout, whatever earnings minus 1NXT fee for transfer will be sent to you if you sent an AM to the pool.  after AM is received by pool your payout comes in 1440 seconds.
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http://198.211.103.222/confirmedearnings.php  look for your numeric account in that list, and it will tell you how much youve earned.

to requrest a payout, whatever earnings minus 1NXT fee for transfer will be sent to you if you sent an AM to the pool.  after AM is received by pool your payout comes in 1440 seconds.

Thanks for the link, I earned less than 1 NXT, and after my lease expired I immediately sent a message (encrypted), but because I earned less than 1 NXT and minus 1 NXT is negative, the transaction will never be sent?
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right.  most people just lease for 65556 blocks repeatedly.
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When will you shut down this pool? Reason I'm asking is to decide whether it's worth it to continue leasing my balance to this pool.

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probably sometime in Jan

Ah ok. Thanks for the info. It should be safe to continue leasing to your pool. If I  understand things correctly it should not matter to the Ignis snapshot process if our balance is leased or not.

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Hey forkedchain, do you still plan on launching an Ardor forging pool in the coming year?

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YES! it will be forging at 0000utc

I came here to create a new topic on it, and saw your question first.  check back in a few minutes.
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YES! it will be forging at 0000utc

I came here to create a new topic on it, and saw your question first.  check back in a few minutes.

Cool, just found your new topic. I shall be leasing my balance as soon as the genesis block is forged.

I'm assuming the NXT pool will be shutdown soon? Or?
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