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100 NXT for your opinion on marketing a book
« on: November 17, 2014, 02:01:21 pm »

I need some help for marketing a book on a dedicated website!

The author has written a book mainly about Durer's "MELENCOLIA § I". He decrypted this copper engraving scientifically. It's a sensation like Dan Brown's "Da Vinci Code" with the difference that his decryption is really true whereas Brown's book is fiction.

The problem however is that the author and the publisher are not at all popular. The book will cost 100EUR and is a long philosophically demanding read of 300 pages.

My idea to market it via the website was to just write down the main decryptions in detail in a short form so that everybody who takes an hour to read it will realize that the decryption is right. But the author is afraid that if I tell the whole punchline on the website nobody will buy the book anymore. My counterargument is that to get popular we have to tell AND SHOW the world without hurdles (difficult to read, expensive book at unknown publishing house) that he really found the right way to decypher the picture. Once we have gained some popularity we can still take down the detailed explanation from the website. I am afraid that it will take years or decades until his interpretation of Durer will become popular. I want it to become popular ASAP.

Everybody who gives me an advice that I value as helpful will get 100 NXT as a sign of my gratitude. Please help me!
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2014, 02:06:05 pm »

You need a good book critic to read the book and give some reviews on the book (try famous ppl, controversial authors, people, heck pay them to read if you need)and then get some really well published journal to read the book and again get some more reviews. And do some road shows in famous libraries in the world.
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Re: 100 NXT for your opinion on marketing a book
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2014, 03:44:52 pm »

You need a good book critic to read the book and give some reviews on the book (try famous ppl, controversial authors, people, heck pay them to read if you need)and then get some really well published journal to read the book and again get some more reviews. And do some road shows in famous libraries in the world.

Thx darkhorse! Just sent you 100 NXT. We already talked to famous people of the scene. They were not interested. Well paid museum directors and professional arthistorians don't need money to write a review. The problem is that the author's interpretation is in contradiction to the interpretation of the people from the scene. So they are not motivated to help us. Another problem with a peer review or a review in a newspaper is that we need to use a lot of pictures to show clearly and convincing that the author's interpretation is right. But newspapers and journals won't print so much pictures. The website would therefore be the best option IMO.

We are planning to do some "roadshows". Since we are from Germany and the book is in German and since the Durer-City Nurnberg with the big Durer museums is close by we start local.
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Re: 100 NXT for your opinion on marketing a book
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2014, 04:00:59 pm »

Get some people that are know in this field to write a review or mention it in interviews.
Give the big names a free copy of the book and as Darkhorse suggested offer to pay for a review.
If it's really an eyeopener, news will spread fast.

Don't post the complete decryptions and storyline on your website.
If people can read it all on your website why would they still buy the book?
Also even if you remove it later from your website, it will already be floating around on the internet and found on other websites.
Post snippets of the decryptions, without revealing the complete storyline.
Give people the feeling they want to read the rest.
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Re: 100 NXT for your opinion on marketing a book
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2014, 04:02:13 pm »

I can review it, interpretations against the dinosaurs are always welcome. My iconology specialisation lies 20-50 years after Durer, so if it was too out, I can contact some open minded colleagues. But  Iconography wasnt changed over those years, just the authors..
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Re: 100 NXT for your opinion on marketing a book
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2014, 04:27:54 pm »

Melencholia I features a famous, and particularly elegant magic square. I'm guessing the decryptions involve the properties of this magic square? You could make a flash site that visually highlights its properties. Let folks play around with it, and maybe drop hints about the code.
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 05:14:15 pm »

Don't post the complete decryptions and storyline on your website.
If people can read it all on your website why would they still buy the book?
Also even if you remove it later from your website, it will already be floating around on the internet and found on other websites.
Post snippets of the decryptions, without revealing the complete storyline.
Give people the feeling they want to read the rest.

100 NXT sent. Seems like it's a fine line we have to walk. But my idea with getting the whole "storyline" on the website was that this may be good for our brand resp. for the reputation of the author. I see this like branding a former unknown company. If you are the one who is publicly acknowledged as the guy who really found out what Durer meant, you will not have to worry about not selling books anymore. Imagine Albert Einstein thinking about how to show his newly found theory of relativity to the public. Wouldn't you just throw it out there for free and expect the rewards afterwards? This is not as easily verifiable as physics, of course. It's art history and philosophy, the realm of opinions. But still it is possible to show that the author is right. If I post only snippets, the reader of the website will not be so blown away by the whole decryption. All parts of the decryption build up on each other. Therefore with snippets we don't reach the goal of SHOWING that we offer the right interpretation.
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Re: 100 NXT for your opinion on marketing a book
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2014, 05:19:27 pm »

Have you considered writing a fiction book that cites the real book as the key to solving some mystery?
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Re: 100 NXT for your opinion on marketing a book
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2014, 05:21:42 pm »

I can review it, interpretations against the dinosaurs are always welcome. My iconology specialisation lies 20-50 years after Durer, so if it was too out, I can contact some open minded colleagues. But  Iconography wasnt changed over those years, just the authors..

100 NXT for you too, Salsa. The problem with the iconological and iconographical approach in this case is that with MELENCOLIA § I Durer wanted to create a new "icon". Therefore the iconology referring to the history of icons cannot explain it. That's why the picture has been a riddle for arthistorians ever since. Can you and your colleagues read a German book? I would be happy to send you some copies when the book is published (will take another month or so; hope we'll be ready before christmas.)
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2014, 05:30:54 pm »

Melencholia I features a famous, and particularly elegant magic square. I'm guessing the decryptions involve the properties of this magic square? You could make a flash site that visually highlights its properties. Let folks play around with it, and maybe drop hints about the code.

Indeed, Zahlen! 100 NXT going your way! The numbers and the magic square play a key role in the whole decryption. The magic square is even on the cover of the book that you can see here http://goo.gl/wQQFWD - just with other numbers ;)

Who could make such a flash site for me and how much would it cost?
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2014, 05:35:56 pm »

Have you considered writing a fiction book that cites the real book as the key to solving some mystery?

And 100 NXT for you! That's a good idea, but a lot of work. Won't be feasible in the short term for us. And won't help marketing the scientific book ASAP.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2014, 06:02:10 pm »

Durerus: sure, don't forget to contact me. And ofourse, without german and latin, it would be impossible to do any research.

The first thing I would try is to attend a conference and present there a short article based on that book. Article would be published in the reviewed journal then. It would be just a part of the book, so other puzzles will be revealed only in the book. Jan Bažant is doing this method..

Jan Bažant is also selling the e-book via Amazon, so it is very easy to buy and immediately read it at my Kindle/Tablet. There are 4 pages for free.
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2014, 06:33:45 pm »

Indeed, Zahlen! 100 NXT going your way! The numbers and the magic square play a key role in the whole decryption. The magic square is even on the cover of the book that you can see here http://goo.gl/wQQFWD - just with other numbers ;)

Who could make such a flash site for me and how much would it cost?

Thanks! If you do get such a site up, the math educator in me would like to make a further suggestion: You could introduce folks to magic squares in general, and maybe tell them a little about the painting.

I'm thinking something like after you've shown the cool stuff that's relevant to the book's contents and magic square and 'advertised' the book, you could transition (via snazzy animation) to Durer's square by subtracting 60 from those cells that were increased. Folks could click 'Investigate Further' or something like then, and the site could show fun things like how to construct magic squares. (I used to do this when I was young!) Durer's square could also transition to the painting. I'm not an art buff, but it looks like there's a lot to investigate in it. Visitors could mouseover objects and click to examine them further. (I guess this is what's meant by iconography?)
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2014, 02:17:14 am »

Thanks for the 100 nxt, man.

"Solve the magic square" would be an interesting campaign to give the book a good publicity if marketed properly. The result you want to see from the campaign is to make it viral. I think even common people are interested in solving their puzzles on their own. 
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2014, 02:23:18 pm »

yeah, real puzzle solving is very exciting - this summer I finally solved one little mystery in Vatican collections. I still need to get to one church in Rome, but it looks like the relief I was looking for was transferred to Vatican.
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2014, 04:01:06 pm »

Durerus: sure, don't forget to contact me. And ofourse, without german and latin, it would be impossible to do any research.

The first thing I would try is to attend a conference and present there a short article based on that book. Article would be published in the reviewed journal then. It would be just a part of the book, so other puzzles will be revealed only in the book. Jan Bažant is doing this method..

Jan Bažant is also selling the e-book via Amazon, so it is very easy to buy and immediately read it at my Kindle/Tablet. There are 4 pages for free.
yeah, real puzzle solving is very exciting - this summer I finally solved one little mystery in Vatican collections. I still need to get to one church in Rome, but it looks like the relief I was looking for was transferred to Vatican.

The author has been attending conferences for over a decade and published articles in a philosophical journal. Always same conference and always same journal though. Attending dedicated arthistorian conferences in the future would be the way to go, yeah. The problem with e-book is that for the decryptions it is important to have the picture in the exact size in front of you so that you can take a compass and a ruler and check what the author is writing about. In e-book format this is not possible.

Great to hear that you are solving puzzles like this yourself. Would be interested to read your results once finished :)
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2014, 04:10:31 pm »

Indeed, Zahlen! 100 NXT going your way! The numbers and the magic square play a key role in the whole decryption. The magic square is even on the cover of the book that you can see here http://goo.gl/wQQFWD - just with other numbers ;)

Who could make such a flash site for me and how much would it cost?

Thanks! If you do get such a site up, the math educator in me would like to make a further suggestion: You could introduce folks to magic squares in general, and maybe tell them a little about the painting.

I'm thinking something like after you've shown the cool stuff that's relevant to the book's contents and magic square and 'advertised' the book, you could transition (via snazzy animation) to Durer's square by subtracting 60 from those cells that were increased. Folks could click 'Investigate Further' or something like then, and the site could show fun things like how to construct magic squares. (I used to do this when I was young!) Durer's square could also transition to the painting. I'm not an art buff, but it looks like there's a lot to investigate in it. Visitors could mouseover objects and click to examine them further. (I guess this is what's meant by iconography?)

Well it is not only that he added 60 to some of the numbers of Durer's magic square. The position of the other numbers changed too. The magic square has a very deep philosophical meaning. And it is also a mathematical riddle. Once you know the solution it looks very easy. But the difficulty is to find it by only being given the magic square of the picture. Nota bene I don't mean the properties of it you can read about in the Wikipedia or that are mentioned here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVx9xfOl10o This is just a cheap trick for snake oil salesman like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbRCZtLwGFM And the trick doesn't work for all numbers and his square doesn't have all of the Durer properties... Unfortunately I can't tell more.
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2014, 04:13:21 pm »

Thanks for the 100 nxt, man.

"Solve the magic square" would be an interesting campaign to give the book a good publicity if marketed properly. The result you want to see from the campaign is to make it viral. I think even common people are interested in solving their puzzles on their own.

Yeah, but to solve the problem without any hints is too difficult. And once you give only a little hint it becomes too easy. But what is the problem you may ask? If I name it, the solution would be easy too. So finding the problem is part of the riddle.
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2014, 09:05:13 pm »

Well it is not only that he added 60 to some of the numbers of Durer's magic square. The position of the other numbers changed too. The magic square has a very deep philosophical meaning. And it is also a mathematical riddle.

Ah, wasn't paying attention. Might take a crack at it, maybe over Christmas :)
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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2014, 06:23:07 pm »

This is just me, but I would read the book to see HOW he decrypted it if I knew it was already accurate. Market the book as the process of the decryption, a true story. People will want to know how he did it, how he came up with the idea, what inspired his methods, etc. Then, once it gains traction, as you said, you can take the information down because it is commonly known to be accurate.

An alternative to a book would be to shorten it and submit it to a scholarly journal for peer review that sells and makes money. It will get his name out there as an expert on the topic if it is accepted. THEN you can sell the book as another piece. The journal article would be more of the scientific proof and the book would be the story/philosophical implications of the research.
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2014, 01:32:14 pm »

This is just me, but I would read the book to see HOW he decrypted it if I knew it was already accurate. Market the book as the process of the decryption, a true story. People will want to know how he did it, how he came up with the idea, what inspired his methods, etc. Then, once it gains traction, as you said, you can take the information down because it is commonly known to be accurate.

An alternative to a book would be to shorten it and submit it to a scholarly journal for peer review that sells and makes money. It will get his name out there as an expert on the topic if it is accepted. THEN you can sell the book as another piece. The journal article would be more of the scientific proof and the book would be the story/philosophical implications of the research.

The book is already written. The storyline is not his personal way of finding the solution but how Durer wanted the observer of the picture to decrypt it step by step. My idea was to give the scientific proof on the website for free. But the author is afraid that noone will buy the book then.
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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2015, 11:34:37 am »

Hello,

are you still interested in proposals?
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2015, 07:54:12 pm »

Sure, if it is a new and good idea, you get your 100 NXT :)
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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2015, 06:47:22 pm »

This may have suggested already as I briefly read a reply concerning a viral marketing campaign.

Reading the description of the book reminds me of reading about the Cicada 3301 recruitment puzzles (try a google search for "Cicada 3301" and give the article about the guy who solved puzzle a read.)  3301 has posted several extremely complex cryptography puzzles in an attempt to recruit "highly intelligent" people.  Their puzzles have gained notoriety and have been featured in news stories and BuzzFeed videos.

Perhaps something similar - a series of interactive cryptography puzzles - would be an interesting way to create buzz for the book and also help target a pretty narrow band of readers.  This sort of campaign would be pretty difficult to create and manage, but may provide a pretty wild and fun ride for those interested.  In the end you may have several more interesting stories to help market the book.

Perhaps the winners could get a signed copy of the book?

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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2015, 09:06:59 am »

Sure, if it is a new and good idea, you get your 100 NXT :)

Hi,

well I don't know if my thoughts bring about any great ideas, as I just think there is no "magic" to promote a book of this kind. But if you want to tip me, I'll message you my NXT address. So here's my opinion:

Publishing in a peer-reviewed journal would be important and helpful if he wants to be scientifically acknowledged later.

However, if this is not possible, then just publish by yourself at one of the many print-on-demand services/publishers which exist today. This means very low cost and it would be sufficient to prove later (e.g. with the ISBN Number and publication date) that it was his idea. This leaves also the option for an e-book, which would be cheaper for the readers but offer same income for the author. The readers who are not convinced could also first buy the cheap e-book, then later the printed version, if they are really convinced/further interested.

Marketing of this book is another thing. Don't expect too much for such a niche scientific work. It could be a success later, if it is accepted and offers a plausible explanation. But at first he has to secure his claim by just publishing it, regardless of success.

However, do not give away all the content in the advertising. An e-book is cheap enough and would do the advertising job in terms of content as well.

Thanks

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« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2015, 02:02:42 pm »

So, no opinion on my opinion?  ???
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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2015, 03:25:04 pm »

Sure, if it is a new and good idea, you get your 100 NXT :)

Hi,

well I don't know if my thoughts bring about any great ideas, as I just think there is no "magic" to promote a book of this kind. But if you want to tip me, I'll message you my NXT address. So here's my opinion:

Publishing in a peer-reviewed journal would be important and helpful if he wants to be scientifically acknowledged later.

However, if this is not possible, then just publish by yourself at one of the many print-on-demand services/publishers which exist today. This means very low cost and it would be sufficient to prove later (e.g. with the ISBN Number and publication date) that it was his idea. This leaves also the option for an e-book, which would be cheaper for the readers but offer same income for the author. The readers who are not convinced could also first buy the cheap e-book, then later the printed version, if they are really convinced/further interested.

Marketing of this book is another thing. Don't expect too much for such a niche scientific work. It could be a success later, if it is accepted and offers a plausible explanation. But at first he has to secure his claim by just publishing it, regardless of success.

However, do not give away all the content in the advertising. An e-book is cheap enough and would do the advertising job in terms of content as well.

Thanks

Hubus

The book is already printed, so print-on-demand is out of the question. We are sitting on 600 copies for 98 EUR fixed book price. E-book is something we are considering, but not at this point and not for advertising. Thanks for your thoughts though. We are starting with some lectures locally soon.
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« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2015, 04:01:39 pm »

Is the offer still available?  ;)
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