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Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
« on: January 19, 2015, 08:08:38 pm »

Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
and I'm here to hack your coin
white hat
promise!
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Re: Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2015, 08:12:26 pm »

There's probably a bounty on that :)
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Re: Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2015, 08:12:32 pm »

Welcome!  ;D ;D

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Re: Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2015, 08:14:26 pm »

Hello and welcome cynicSOB

@nxt community: here is the link to the BTT thread that cynicSOB started about attacking PoS coins
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=897493.0

Curious about your findings!

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Re: Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2015, 08:17:56 pm »

Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
and I'm here to hack your coin
white hat
promise!

Hey, you made it from bitcointalk :)

Welcome.

In addition to your white hat, I'd like to offer you a tinfoil one, too.
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Re: Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2015, 08:18:46 pm »

Welcome, thanks and good luck!
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Re: Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2015, 08:20:27 pm »

Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
and I'm here to hack your coin
white hat
promise!

Hey, you made it from bitcointalk :)

Welcome.

In addition to your white hat, I'd like to offer you a tinfoil one, too.

thanks, I may need it :)
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Re: Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2015, 08:21:43 pm »

Hah....I was just about to start a thread on cynicSOB and his doings.....

Keeping it short, myself and others have seen cynicSOB carry out a successful attack on a PoS coin (only Apexcoin, but its a start), and we'd like him to have a go at NXT, using the TestNet.

CynicSOB may need some technical support (and definitely a big handful of TestNXT) to carry out his attack, so I'd like to ask the NXT community to help him out wherever possible.

First thing that needs to be done is to get some more TestNet nodes up......I'll spin up my VPS as Testnet in the next hour or so, it's been on mainnet for a few weeks.
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Re: Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2015, 08:23:25 pm »

I want him to attack the real Nxt, too. Of course, let him practice on testnet.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2015, 08:26:44 pm »

Hah....I was just about to start a thread on cynicSOB and his doings.....

Keeping it short, myself and others have seen cynicSOB carry out a successful attack on a PoS coin (only Apexcoin, but its a start), and we'd like him to have a go at NXT, using the TestNet.

CynicSOB may need some technical support (and definitely a big handful of TestNXT) to carry out his attack, so I'd like to ask the NXT community to help him out wherever possible.

I was reading about his doings over at BTT (with a bowl of popcorn, of course!) Didn't a Nxt dev offer up 10% of the Nxt testnet coins for this, and also claim that about 30% of testnet coins are forging?

I hope you get it.  It also may seem odd to say that I hope you suceed but TF is suppose to fix this.  A sucessful attack on the test net will likely get us one step closer to TF.  (Hooray!)
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2015, 08:28:19 pm »

I want him to attack the real Nxt, too. Of course, let him practice on testnet.

Only in Nxt do prominent Nxt user's want to see their coin hacked!  We know our deva can innovate past any verified flaw! ;D
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Re: Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2015, 08:29:39 pm »

@BCP
A real NXT attack will require substantial investment, which would be good for the price, but not very practical.
Using TestNet is a bit cheaper...... ;D

@RLH
Yeah, there have been a couple of offers for bounty.....we need to get them all lined up, and have a good discussion about possible Community Funds bounty before cynicSOB starts putting serious time into this.
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Re: Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2015, 08:47:25 pm »

@BCP
A real NXT attack will require substantial investment, which would be good for the price, but not very practical.

Ah, u spoiled the fun.
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Re: Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2015, 08:51:08 pm »

Hah....I was just about to start a thread on cynicSOB and his doings.....

Keeping it short, myself and others have seen cynicSOB carry out a successful attack on a PoS coin (only Apexcoin, but its a start), and we'd like him to have a go at NXT, using the TestNet.

CynicSOB may need some technical support (and definitely a big handful of TestNXT) to carry out his attack, so I'd like to ask the NXT community to help him out wherever possible.

I was reading about his doings over at BTT (with a bowl of popcorn, of course!) Didn't a Nxt dev offer up 10% of the Nxt testnet coins for this, and also claim that about 30% of testnet coins are forging?

I hope you get it.  It also may seem odd to say that I hope you suceed but TF is suppose to fix this.  A sucessful attack on the test net will likely get us one step closer to TF.  (Hooray!)

That was only me, I wrote:

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I hereby pledge 20k Nxt if you can pull off your attack on the Nxt testnet.

Conditions:

You get 10% of all testnxt
at least 30% of all testnxt has to be forging during your attack
Reorg must be 20 blocks or more
Reorg has to be verified by multiple parties
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2015, 08:56:37 pm »

Hah....I was just about to start a thread on cynicSOB and his doings.....

Keeping it short, myself and others have seen cynicSOB carry out a successful attack on a PoS coin (only Apexcoin, but its a start), and we'd like him to have a go at NXT, using the TestNet.

CynicSOB may need some technical support (and definitely a big handful of TestNXT) to carry out his attack, so I'd like to ask the NXT community to help him out wherever possible.

I was reading about his doings over at BTT (with a bowl of popcorn, of course!) Didn't a Nxt dev offer up 10% of the Nxt testnet coins for this, and also claim that about 30% of testnet coins are forging?

I hope you get it.  It also may seem odd to say that I hope you suceed but TF is suppose to fix this.  A sucessful attack on the test net will likely get us one step closer to TF.  (Hooray!)

That was only me, I wrote:

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I hereby pledge 20k Nxt if you can pull off your attack on the Nxt testnet.

Conditions:

You get 10% of all testnxt
at least 30% of all testnxt has to be forging during your attack
Reorg must be 20 blocks or more
Reorg has to be verified by multiple parties

I'll pledge 20k as well under same conditions.
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2015, 10:45:35 pm »

TwinWinNerd also expressed a desire on BTT to contribute something, the bounty fund is already at 40,000 NXT (+Twins contribution).

I've started a thread in the TestNet section for technical discussion of TestNet setup for CynicSOBs attacks:
https://nxtforum.org/testnet/nxt-security-audit-attack-simulations-on-testnet/
TL:DR: we need more nodes, more forging accounts and some TestNXT re-distribution

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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2015, 11:29:52 pm »

My bounty is for real NXT blockchain. I know how buggy(?) NXT testnet is.

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Re: Hi! I'm cynicSOB and I'm a cynical SOB
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2015, 11:31:21 pm »

My bounty is for real NXT blockchain. I know how buggy(?) NXT testnet is.

Maybe a bounty in BTC would be better, then.
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2015, 11:41:42 pm »

My bounty is for real NXT blockchain. I know how buggy(?) NXT testnet is.

Maybe a bounty in BTC would be better, then.

sure, 0.5 BTC from me.

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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2015, 12:35:41 am »

Welcome to the matrix.  8)
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