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You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« on: October 10, 2014, 07:26:35 am »

So the NXT community has managed to spread my story, "The Mystery of the Missing 1,000,000 NXT" so far and so wide that my editors are trying to worm their way out of paying me for it, lol.

They accused EvilDave, CobaltSky, and other familiar names from the community as "being bots" because they can't understand why a community would want to market a story about being ripped off...

The state of journalism in our sector is sorely in need of an upgrade...

Mind you it's not about the money... it's the principal.
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2014, 07:29:00 am »

 ;D
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2014, 07:31:43 am »

Tell them if they don't pay you, you're going to write a story about them being scammers and we'll market that too.
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2014, 07:59:47 am »

You should thank bm too. That lunatic fuck really tried hard and made lots of topics on bitcointalk
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2014, 08:27:41 am »

The joke is they don't even count shares on Bitcointalk. I told them it would look even worse if they did. I am DOMINATING over there but the current logic they are presenting me with thus far is akin to, "It's not fair, you wrote a story that matters".

I mean... sorry no one reads your fluff piece that is essentially just a re-hash of the companies Press Release? Don't go peeing in my cheerios because I managed to rally an entire aggrieved community behind me though, lol.

Let's unpack it, the message here is... "don't write popular stories or we won't pay you"?

*facepalm*
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2014, 08:45:15 am »

If CoinTelegraph want to discuss this with the community, I'm sure we could arrange a Skype convo for them just to establish our non-bot status.
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2014, 08:50:30 am »

If CoinTelegraph want to discuss this with the community, I'm sure we could arrange a Skype convo for them just to establish our non-bot status.
Why not make guest appearances on the next NXT hangout.
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2014, 08:50:51 am »

Management is discussing it as a group now. Hopefully it doesn't come to this but a skyppe or email message from members of the community explaining the logic that, "This is a popular story because it matters to us" to them might do the trick.

It's annoying that they are even making me jump through hoops but I'm trying to be patient and understanding. Apparently this is the first time they've has an article be "too popular".
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2014, 09:04:54 am »

Management is discussing it as a group now. Hopefully it doesn't come to this but a skyppe or email message from members of the community explaining the logic that, "This is a popular story because it matters to us" to them might do the trick.

It's annoying that they are even making me jump through hoops but I'm trying to be patient and understanding. Apparently this is the first time they've has an article be "too popular".

Let me know if they don't pay you 100%, plz.
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2014, 09:08:14 am »

I'm also willing to prove my non-bot existence to them if needed.

There is a slight chance that if tempted I might do the Robot during a video conference, though.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2014, 10:06:18 am by Damelon »
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2014, 09:18:33 am »

...

They accused EvilDave, CobaltSky, and other familiar names from the community as "being bots" because they can't understand why a community would want to market a story about being ripped off...

...

NXT has a lot of community members that are not in it for the money. But truly like the idea of crypto technologies and PoS.
I would even go one step further and say NXT has probably the best community, because we (= a lot of us) don't want to sweep things under the rug just because the price could be negatively affected.
Yes we've been betrayed and yes some (including giant bter) have been hacked.
Personally I hate pumping/dumping and sockpuppetery and I hate it when half-truths and lies are being spread (e.g. Frictionlesscoin, Hazard, Bluemeanie or jgarzik). Of course I would love NXT to rise in price but only if it's legit and true, otherwise I prefer it to go to zero value and lose a lot of money.

Cointelegraph your mag is great and so is NXT community, very active and fair - please pay the author.

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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2014, 10:01:20 am »

Very sorry to have shared the story to 9000 people on twitter and 3000 on facebook

PMSL
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2014, 10:05:02 am »

I'm also willing to prove my non-bot existance to them if needed.

There is a slight chance that if tempted I might do the Robot during a video conference, though.

Hah that video could be even more popular than the BM article... next years summer hit the 'Bas-bot'
« Last Edit: October 10, 2014, 02:40:04 pm by chanc3r »
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2014, 10:28:48 am »

Well we are negotiating the issue now. They are trying to be amenable on some level but at the same time... they seem dead set on cutting me a low ball check.

If you wish to write to the person I am in talks with to convey your thoughts and support it's Allen - allen.cointelegraph (at) gmail.com



Oh and slight warning, I am a very, very good dancer. So if we all start doing the robot in here you're going to regret it.   8)
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2014, 12:44:26 pm »

I've worked in media for fifteen years and I fail completely to understand their logic.

They don't want repercussion? Doesn't make sense. They don't want to be associated with Nxt? Has bm threatened them to bring their involvement to the International Criminal Court?
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2014, 12:51:59 pm »

I've worked in media for fifteen years and I fail completely to understand their logic.

They don't want repercussion? Doesn't make sense. They don't want to be associated with Nxt? Has bm threatened them to bring their involvement to the International Criminal Court?

That's the only explanation I guess.  :P
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2014, 12:55:37 pm »

Love it. Journalist exposes scam. Is accused of scam.
If I was the kind of person who makes memes, I'd be making one now.
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2014, 01:43:06 pm »

Tell them if they don't pay you, you're going to write a story about them being scammers and we'll market that too.

lol
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2014, 01:46:58 pm »

I myself am less than happy that this is being discussed over our forums.

This is an internal matter, it seems, and I am less than happy we're being dragged into this.

I am not a party in this dispute and don't really like to be dragged into a dispute between you and your contractors.  :-\
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Re: You animals are all getting me in TROUBLE!
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2014, 02:03:04 pm »

Another writer from CT here. You guys may remember me as someone who has covered NXT in the past, blah blah. Remember how Coindesk got the Bter hack story all wrong and I reported on it responsibly? That was me. I also wrote the follow up, and an article when Multigateway launched, and. . . you get the point, I won't bore you with anymore.


So, I'm not going to get into a big argument in this highly unprofessional thread. But here is an example of some of the tweets the article received. https://twitter.com/A8Fatama/status/519681109529862144

Regardless of who is behind such tweets. CoinTelegraph isn't going to pay for fake tweets, especially since, as the author well knows, our pay structure is based on Social Media shares. Each fake tweet takes money out of the other writer's pockets, including mine. I certainly understand and appreciate any community support, including any crazy SM schemes that get us tons of tweets at someone else's expense. But robot tweets can't be used to determine pay, for obvious reasons.

I am posting this because I feel like I am a friend of the NXT community and as a writer for CoinTelegraph do not enjoy seeing our name dragged through the mud. I agree with Damelon that this is an internal CoinTelegraph matter, and I won't speak any further on it. Maybe my superiors will, I don't know, but I find this highly disappointing.


[Should also note that the above post has no connections with anyone else from CT, I have informed my superiors of this thread but posted the above on my own and it doesn't necessarily reflect anyone else's views. And no, they didn't ask me to add this disclaimer either]
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