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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #100 on: December 03, 2015, 08:30:38 pm »

You were certainly on a fork
- yes.

Let's compare forks, at height 487964 on testnet now I have block 11840617130451358839. What block do you have?
- I'm currently popOff-ed from 483001 and trying catch up.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2015, 04:12:44 am by abctc »
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #101 on: December 04, 2015, 03:17:52 am »

Shuffling 8550734408147511929 can't finish verify because NXT-T6TN-7FJS-G2XK-9PPJQ balance is 0? If so,this looks like a bug to me.

And I don't think it's fair,7 TestNXT fine is not enough,NXT-T6TN-7FJS-G2XK-9PPJQ shoud also pay for 4 other parties cost as well,which is 12*4=48 TestNXT.

And in my opinion,7 TestNXT fine should go to 4 other parties.

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2015-12-04 10:52:54 FINE: Account 16790638555743438320 registering for shuffling 8550734408147511929
2015-12-04 10:52:54 FINE: Accepted new transaction 5066373703959502921
2015-12-04 10:52:54 INFO: Started shuffler for account 16790638555743438320, shuffling 8550734408147511929
2015-12-04 10:54:06 FINE: Shuffling 8550734408147511929 entered stage PROCESSING, assignee 5685888008564907140, remaining blocks 10
2015-12-04 10:56:16 FINE: Shuffling participant 5685888008564907140 changed state to PROCESSED
2015-12-04 10:59:29 FINE: Shuffling participant 17158652599359757654 changed state to PROCESSED
2015-12-04 10:59:57 FINE: Shuffling participant 11274269400387066343 changed state to PROCESSED
2015-12-04 11:01:38 FINE: Shuffling participant 8881860613052863284 changed state to PROCESSED
2015-12-04 11:01:38 FINE: Account 16790638555743438320 processing shuffling 8550734408147511929
2015-12-04 11:01:38 FINE: Will broadcast new transaction later 2622830920101012849
2015-12-04 11:01:38 FINE: Average database transaction time is 0.031 seconds
2015-12-04 11:03:40 FINE: Shuffling participant 16790638555743438320 changed state to PROCESSED
2015-12-04 11:03:40 FINE: Shuffling participant 16790638555743438320 changed state to VERIFIED
2015-12-04 11:03:40 FINE: Shuffling 8550734408147511929 entered stage VERIFICATION, assignee 0, remaining blocks 15
2015-12-04 11:04:17 FINE: Shuffling participant 17158652599359757654 changed state to VERIFIED
2015-12-04 11:04:17 FINE: Shuffling participant 11274269400387066343 changed state to VERIFIED
2015-12-04 11:04:17 FINE: Shuffling participant 5685888008564907140 changed state to VERIFIED
2015-12-04 11:17:05 FINE: Participant 8881860613052863284 did not submit verification
2015-12-04 11:17:05 FINE: Shuffling penalty 1.750000 NXT awarded to forger at height 488414
2015-12-04 11:17:05 FINE: Shuffling penalty 1.750000 NXT awarded to forger at height 488413
2015-12-04 11:17:05 FINE: Shuffling penalty 1.750000 NXT awarded to forger at height 488412
2015-12-04 11:17:05 FINE: Shuffling penalty 1.750000 NXT awarded to forger at height 488415
2015-12-04 11:17:05 FINE: Shuffling 8550734408147511929 entered stage CANCELLED, assignee 8881860613052863284, remaining blocks 0
2015-12-04 11:17:05 FINE: Shuffling 8550734408147511929 was cancelled, blaming account 8881860613052863284
« Last Edit: December 04, 2015, 03:35:46 am by qq2536007339 »
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #102 on: December 04, 2015, 05:06:55 am »

One more thing,I notice when Shuffling CANCELLED,Recipient account can't use for another Shuffling anymore.
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #103 on: December 04, 2015, 05:33:12 am »

One more thing,I notice when Shuffling CANCELLED,Recipient account can't use for another Shuffling anymore.
The recipient accounts are created and their public keys announced as soon as the last participant completes processing. Even if the shuffling is cancelled after that, allowing them to be reused would reduce anonymity.
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #104 on: December 04, 2015, 05:41:01 am »

Shuffling 8550734408147511929 can't finish verify because NXT-T6TN-7FJS-G2XK-9PPJQ balance is 0? If so,this looks like a bug to me.
Verification is a transaction, it has a 1 NXT fee. It may also be needed to submit both verification and then cancellation, cancellation will cost another 1 NXT.

If the participant account runs out of balance to pay those fees, the shuffler will show a failure status, and will keep trying to resubmit verification after every block. With the 100 block deadline on production, the user still has time to fund his account again as long as he notices the failure, and then the transaction will go through.

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And I don't think it's fair,7 TestNXT fine is not enough,NXT-T6TN-7FJS-G2XK-9PPJQ shoud also pay for 4 other parties cost as well,which is 12*4=48 TestNXT.

And in my opinion,7 TestNXT fine should go to 4 other parties.
I hope on production shufflings fail so rarely that it doesn't matter, the point of the penalty is to prevent intentional sabotage.
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #105 on: December 04, 2015, 06:10:27 am »

Verification is a transaction, it has a 1 NXT fee. It may also be needed to submit both verification and then cancellation, cancellation will cost another 1 NXT.

If the participant account runs out of balance to pay those fees, the shuffler will show a failure status, and will keep trying to resubmit verification after every block. With the 100 block deadline on production, the user still has time to fund his account again as long as he notices the failure, and then the transaction will go through.

I hope when a account don't have enough NXT,NRS should prevent this account participate Shuffling.
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #106 on: December 08, 2015, 11:20:45 am »

Shuffling 13783739157332794324 (created before the testnet hardfork) has started processing, NXT-3KHJ-TT7K-CDNJ-GN43L must get online and submit processing transaction.
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #107 on: December 08, 2015, 11:37:08 am »

Started shuffling 18164557942644489547 with 5 participants for 10 NXT
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #108 on: December 08, 2015, 02:03:48 pm »

Started shuffling 18164557942644489547 with 5 participants for 10 NXT

This one worked nicely, started 599494087262983210 with 10 participants for 11 NXT
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #109 on: December 09, 2015, 05:58:30 am »

Shuffling 13783739157332794324 (created before the testnet hardfork) has started processing, NXT-3KHJ-TT7K-CDNJ-GN43L must get online and submit processing transaction.

Sorry,other things happened,and I didn't get online in time.
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #110 on: December 12, 2015, 01:30:21 pm »

Hey!! Here is my new video calling for testers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKoOXVQycHQ

I'm getting ready for tomorrow  ;D

Can I have some nxttest please: NXT-CRPE-VQ5C-BEP9-A9UA3

Some questions:

1) Do I need to change some configs file in order to be on testnet?

2) Do I need "real" NXT?

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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #111 on: December 12, 2015, 02:06:56 pm »

NXT-CRPE-VQ5C-BEP9-A9UA3
- some testNXT coins sent.

1) Do I need to change some configs file in order to be on testnet?
2) Do I need "real" NXT?
1) plz see here:
... How to setup testnet node: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=4332.msg78507#msg78507
Another TestNet gude: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=7260.msg145208#msg145208
2) No
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #112 on: December 12, 2015, 10:40:41 pm »

Thank you abctc!! I received the testNXT.

Now I would like to join this transaction: 14731757229304179065

but it asks me:

1) Recipient Passphrase

2) Passphrase

Where do I find 1) ?

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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #113 on: December 12, 2015, 11:46:24 pm »

1) is determined by you - it is a new passphrase for a never used account - type carefully ... and test and proofread repeatedly
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #114 on: December 13, 2015, 05:48:58 am »

i set the adminpass in conf and i still get this error

Cannot check shuffler status. Incorrect administrator password. (the specified password does not match nxt.adminPassword)
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #115 on: December 13, 2015, 06:58:56 am »

i set the adminpass in conf and i still get this error
- since you can reach your Nxt server from different computers you need to specify the matching adminpass in NRS's settings (under the cogwheel).
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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #116 on: December 13, 2015, 12:13:03 pm »

just reporting my successful shuffle (15348144445445675912)

2015-12-13 09:26:11 FINE: Account 9269331474830941868 registering for shuffling 15348144445445675912
2015-12-13 09:26:11 INFO: Started shuffler for account 9269331474830941868, shuffling 15348144445445675912
2015-12-13 11:36:51 FINE: Shuffling 15348144445445675912 entered stage PROCESSING, assignee 10045189023320066985, remaining blocks 10
2015-12-13 11:46:35 FINE: Shuffling 15348144445445675912 entered stage VERIFICATION, assignee 0, remaining blocks 15
2015-12-13 11:46:35 FINE: Account 9269331474830941868 verifying shuffling 15348144445445675912
2015-12-13 11:48:04 FINE: Shuffling participant 9269331474830941868 changed state to VERIFIED

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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #117 on: December 13, 2015, 01:55:31 pm »

this time I initiated the shuffle (10604797217301105869):

2015-12-13 13:16:58 FINE: Accepted new transaction 10604797217301105869
2015-12-13 13:19:10 INFO: Started shuffler for account 9269331474830941868, shuffling 10604797217301105869
2015-12-13 14:00:20 FINE: Account 9269331474830941868 processing shuffling 10604797217301105869
2015-12-13 14:07:56 FINE: Shuffling 10604797217301105869 entered stage VERIFICATION, assignee 0, remaining blocks 15
2015-12-13 14:07:56 FINE: Account 9269331474830941868 verifying shuffling 10604797217301105869
2015-12-13 14:10:50 FINE: Shuffling 10604797217301105869 entered stage DONE, assignee 0, remaining blocks 0
2015-12-13 14:10:50 FINE: Shuffling 10604797217301105869 was distributed

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Re: Shuffling party time
« Reply #118 on: April 11, 2016, 01:51:41 pm »

Is there a detailed coin shuffling tutorial (or video) somewhere? I still don't understand the process.
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