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Re: Price speculation
April 20, 2017, 12:19:29 pm

Anyone have a theory as to why the price of Ardor has recently jumped above 3 cents, on high volume, and stayed there?

Because Ardor is groundbreaking tech...?  ;D

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Re: Price speculation
April 20, 2017, 01:26:21 pm

Anyone have a theory as to why the price of Ardor has recently jumped above 3 cents, on high volume, and stayed there?

Because Ardor is groundbreaking tech...?  ;D

But, but... we all know too well that tech has no effect on price in crypto markets ;D
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Re: Price speculation
April 20, 2017, 01:36:05 pm

Anyone have a theory as to why the price of Ardor has recently jumped above 3 cents, on high volume, and stayed there?

Because Ardor is groundbreaking tech...?  ;D

But, but... we all know too well that tech has no effect on price in crypto markets ;D

Haha, then the name Ardor must jump the price!  ;D

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Re: Price speculation
April 20, 2017, 03:18:02 pm

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Re: Price speculation
April 20, 2017, 05:08:16 pm

UNITY / SuperNET

Here's how to withdraw
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Great video and nice timing. This would be very helpful to a lot of people.

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Re: Price speculation
April 23, 2017, 09:21:38 am

It's been some really quite interesting weeks lately in crypto land. Scaling hasn't been much of topic for the last years - and boom - now it's front and center. Bitcoiners used to clobber anyone who thinks miners having different incentives than currency holders is a problem. Now it's suddenly consensus on r/bitcoin. Not only are there repeated threads saying a change of the Proof of Work algorithm might be necessary, I'm actually seeing more and more suggestions to switch to Proof of Stake! I can't believe my eyes! Just the mere mention of it even half a year ago would have brought you into downvote hell and 500 angry "nothing at stake" chants, before your post got shadow banned. I'm not saying that it's a majority position by any means, but what a difference!

The changing tides are sweeping a lot of money into the alts. The combined crypto cap is exploding:


While Bitcoin's share of it is decreasing. The pace is accelerating towards parity. That could be a huge deal with unclear implications (...but don't dare mention this on r/Bitcoin).


There is a major sea change going on. Props to the dev team to see this long ahead: Designing Ardor specifically around scaling capabilities, puts it in a position to take advantage of the situation. Now there is just the question if this can somehow get attention. So far it is always Ethereum that gets used as example for Proof of Stake. Once again, it took the spotlight. It also gobbled up the biggest gains. Ardor seemed to have merely been swept up with the tidal wave that took all alts along.

I don't know if all that will change to the best of Ardor and NXT. But I'm sure: This ain't over. And people are still either in denial or stuck in old ways of thinking.
  • The Bitcoin wars will get worse.
    First off, there is AsicBoost, which is worth millions in advantage for parasitic miners. Why would they give that up for anything? Higher market cap doesn't help their bottom line, they live of higher margins. A fork of some sort either will happen or must at least come close enough that these miners must fear trashing their hardware.
  • Disruption will be huge either way. The user experience will be a disaster. Alts will pick up refugees... but if Bitcoin suffers too much, all crypto will take a hit.
  • The miner problem is of course deeper anyways. It's an incentive problem that will return. Miners they only care about users and hodlers if it somehow helps their short term earnings.
  • What also clearly came to light is that the monopoly is even worse than anyone thought: It's the hardware! That's all done by basically one manufacturer in one location - with the ability to legally block supply for anyone who doesn't agree with their plans. Bitmain is abusing this already. That skews not just which miners can join, but also how much existing ones dare to contribute to debates.
  • People still don't understand the scaling issue. It seems bizarre to me that Ethereum/Monero/Dash are seen as solutions. All these have exponentially worse situations should they ever catch on remotely as much as Bitcoin.
    It's just that neither Ether or Litecoin are used enough to make clear to everyone that they have the exact problem Bitcoin has - or worse.

So there is Ardor, with an actual solution. My fear is that people might once again overlook it, just like NXT was laughed at when it pioneered what is now the altcoin standard. Maybe it's premature optimization. But it might be the right unique selling point at just the right time.

One joker card might be the Lightning network, or the "sharding" that Buterin promises. Basically they could change the landscape of the scaling discussion - and make it a non-issue. It's just promises so for. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can shed some light one that angle.
Anyways, the potential in the upcoming year is huge - and that's what speculators are trading on.
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Re: Price speculation
April 23, 2017, 09:59:53 am

Sheep follow shepherds lol. Now that shepherds say that miners are not authority for consensus, overturning Satoshi's whitepaper, it is safe for sheep to change their "opinions". Breaking this dam of POW coins' elitism should be positive for Nxt and Ardor.
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Re: Price speculation
April 24, 2017, 06:26:10 pm

Should we sell NXT for Ardor Assets? or keep 50/50?

I don't know whats better....

what do you guys do?

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Re: Price speculation
April 24, 2017, 06:40:17 pm

Should we sell NXT for Ardor Assets? or keep 50/50?

I don't know whats better....

what do you guys do?

Toss a coin ;)
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Re: Price speculation
April 25, 2017, 09:23:05 am

Wisdom

Thanks for that post Thomas. Very much indeed.
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Re: Price speculation
April 25, 2017, 03:58:51 pm

Should we sell NXT for Ardor Assets? or keep 50/50?

I don't know whats better....

what do you guys do?

When Ignis starts, we will have three coins.  I'll be HODLing.  ARDOR was the best thing the devs could have done for value.

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Re: Price speculation
April 25, 2017, 04:07:35 pm

nice price raising today. i wait for the dump  ;D

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Re: Price speculation
April 26, 2017, 02:38:00 am

Investors are realizing that Bitcoin is losing its stability, so they are looking for other options, for the next rising star. I think that's why Ardor and some other contenders are going up in price.

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Re: Price speculation
April 27, 2017, 09:41:30 am

After Come-from-Beyond the 2nd blockchain song named Ardor Love by @wiremaster
https://soundcloud.com/user-154925558/ardor-love

"I had Linda on my mind
thinking that she was so nice
but I knew that she was in love
with an Ethereum Classic guy

That was no go
that was so bad
and I was feeling down

She was going always home
passing at 2 by my house
she was stopping by my window
but NXT was going high
Damn it, just now!
Common go out!
But I cannot right now

Then I met her once around
at the store behind my home
Spoke about NXT
but she didn’t seem electrified
I could not know
what was wrong
but I just don’t mind
la la la la la la
la la la la la la
la la la la la la la

She looked at me
she was lovely
and I was freaking out

then I asked her why she was
getting in love with a guy like me
she then told me that she wanted
a man with Ardor
how did she know
that was just me
and we are happy now
la la la la la la
la la la la la la
la la la la la"

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Re: Price speculation
April 30, 2017, 06:43:03 am

Amazing song!!! I love the lyrics too! Great job and very funny ahhaha
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Re: Price speculation
April 30, 2017, 10:59:01 am

Pavlov's and Schrödinger's Blockchains
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/pavlovs-schr%C3%B6dingers-blockchains-roberto-capodieci

Really good article!

Some of those exemple are mind-boggling

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Re: Price speculation
May 01, 2017, 07:06:23 am

Nxt news – May 2017 (I): Shortcuts Cause Long Delays


Here’s some of the latest news about Nxt over this past week:

NXT COMMUNITY

Nxt Foundation – Jelurida Joins the Supporter Program
Blockchain Forum by El Pais – Lior Yaffe Will Be a Speaker
Webit Festival Europe – Jelurida Was Well-Received
Adel – The ICO Begins
TheWireMaster – Ardor Song

DEVELOPMENT
Jelurida – Public License Proposal

NXT IN THE MEDIA

Steem Nation – Nxt and Ardor Are Presented
Neocash Radio – Nxt and Ardor

PRICE EVOLUTION
Weekly NXT/ARDR Price Evolution

https://www.nxter.org/nxt-news-may-2017-i-shortcuts-cause-long-delays/
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