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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28020 on: September 30, 2016, 09:06:20 am »

Thats why i think NXT will be priced higher till a small period before live mainnet of Ardor.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28021 on: September 30, 2016, 05:00:38 pm »

I despise people who buy and sell crypto for only profit.  They don't care about the real reason behind crypto and the independence from government it represents.  They are parasites and I have no use for them. 
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28022 on: September 30, 2016, 06:51:11 pm »

I despise people who buy and sell crypto for only profit.  They don't care about the real reason behind crypto and the independence from government it represents.  They are parasites and I have no use for them.

I must disagree wholeheartedly.  The people who buy and hold with no other contributions are the parasites.

Traders serve a very useful function.  They provide market liquidity, minimize spreads, and create volume.  What use is a cryptocurrency without usable markets?  And if they make some money while doing it, is that really so bad?

Traders exist to make a profit, yes.  Does this make them inherently evil or against cryptocurrency ideals? —NO!
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28023 on: September 30, 2016, 07:24:04 pm »

I despise people who buy and sell crypto for only profit.  They don't care about the real reason behind crypto and the independence from government it represents.  They are parasites and I have no use for them.

I must disagree wholeheartedly.  The people who buy and hold with no other contributions are the parasites.

Traders serve a very useful function.  They provide market liquidity, minimize spreads, and create volume.  What use is a cryptocurrency without usable markets?  And if they make some money while doing it, is that really so bad?

Traders exist to make a profit, yes.  Does this make them inherently evil or against cryptocurrency ideals? —NO!

Also traders are currently the biggest crowd of "success stories" in the crypto scene. Which is needed in order to attract more people into the scene.

But I do also not agree with the "buy and hold with no other contributions". There are always investors with a long-term perspective but other things in mind. They invested and will look back in the future how developments are going. They provide the scarcity of the Token and will inform themselves here and then, what is the problem?

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28024 on: September 30, 2016, 07:34:18 pm »

But I do also not agree with the "buy and hold with no other contributions". There are always investors with a long-term perspective but other things in mind. They invested and will look back in the future how developments are going. They provide the scarcity of the Token and will inform themselves here and then, what is the problem?

Fair enough.  Long term hold is a viable trading strategy as well.  But let's not kid ourselves, these people are in it for profit, too.  I meant no disrespect, just that if we are throwing the 'parasite' label around that's where I'd personally stick it.

What I meant with "no other contributions" is just that.  Everyone has a talent, whether programming, marketing/design, business creation, etc.  If you are a serious long term holder in a cryptocurrency, I encourage active participation rather than just a "wait and see" attitude.

Cheers to all!
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28025 on: September 30, 2016, 08:01:08 pm »

I despise people who buy and sell crypto for only profit.  They don't care about the real reason behind crypto and the independence from government it represents.  They are parasites and I have no use for them.

I must disagree wholeheartedly.  The people who buy and hold with no other contributions are the parasites.

They hold the risk by holding the coin, relieving those that spend it.

If you hold on an investment, you hold the risks too, if you cashout and spend it, then you relinquish the risk.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28026 on: September 30, 2016, 09:33:29 pm »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28027 on: October 01, 2016, 12:29:42 pm »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28028 on: October 01, 2016, 02:00:03 pm »

Those who are purists (for lack of a better word) want to trade crypto for goods and services, not dollars or other monetary devices.  Trading for "things" creates a market and increases the acceptance of the medium.  I contend that those who buy low and sell high only to "cash out" don't care about crypto for any other reason than to make fiat money.  They give crypto a bad name to outsiders who see it more as a gamble than a movement.  Those that really care about crypto talk about it and promote it as a substitute for fiat, not a vehicle to get more fiat.

And I'm a hard-core capitalist.  I love money.  That is not what crypto is about, IMHO.  It's about freedom from government.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28029 on: October 01, 2016, 02:25:33 pm »

Dividend day!  :)

FARLAWEB (17491339106794048806) Total issued assets: 10000000, Assets to be distributed to: 107999.8088
Summary of proposed distribution of 14558.37422624 NXT to the 494 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp 90037312
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28030 on: October 01, 2016, 03:51:38 pm »

Those who are purists (for lack of a better word) want to trade crypto for goods and services, not dollars or other monetary devices.  Trading for "things" creates a market and increases the acceptance of the medium.  I contend that those who buy low and sell high only to "cash out" don't care about crypto for any other reason than to make fiat money.  They give crypto a bad name to outsiders who see it more as a gamble than a movement.  Those that really care about crypto talk about it and promote it as a substitute for fiat, not a vehicle to get more fiat.

And I'm a hard-core capitalist.  I love money.  That is not what crypto is about, IMHO.  It's about freedom from government.
In the special case of crypto I would even say that people who see a deeper meaning in their efforts for crypto need pure speculators to get adoption of their coin. If everybody was giving time and work, but nobody money, the whole effort wouldnt be sustainable. I want to make fiat with crypto. But I only want to make fiat, because right now and in the foreseeable future fiat will be the generally used medium of exchange. What is wrong with that? Dont you need stuff? Dont you do economical calculations? Is everybody bad who is trying to make fiat to pay his bills? Why is working in a job to get fiat better than speculating with crypto to make fiat? The potential of crypto to become a substitute for fiat is the main driver behind bitcoin speculation. But there is no contradiction to participate in that speculation and to cash out in fiat as long as fiat is what buys things you need. This is just the smart thing to do. Smart people will diversify anyway and not go all in fiat ;)

Looking at reality fiat is still the most generally used medium of exchange, measuring stick and store of value. It is the value index function of fiat that leads rational crypto investors to measure their holdings in fiat. As a hardcore capitalist you should share the view that the "invisible hand" will take care of the common good, if people try to increase individual gains measured in the most widely and commonly used measuring stick, which as a matter of fact is fiat. Without thinking in fiat terms economic calculation wouldnt be possible, i.e. the beneficial effects of the invisible hand wouldnt take place.

Now I know that fiat is devilish, because it has negative effects on natural social order. But I doubt that you will end up at "freedom from government" by new tech, even if it is monetary tech in accordance with Austrian School. The demand for aggressive authority (now in the form of soft dictatorship), that most people have, is a psychological or pedagogical problem that is not easy to solve and will not go away once we are using Bitcoin, just as it was still there when we were using gold. Sure: A transition to crypto as medium of exchange would be better for us in the long term. And again the only way to reach this practically starting now is people speculating with it using fiat as value index for their economic calculations. But the old Adam within that created all this mess would still be there. People will find ways to suppress and kill each other even with sound money in their pockets or on their smartphones. I dont say you cant get rid of the old Adam. Just saying that sound money is not the way. And it is the old Adam within us that constitutes "government". If it was us against "government", "government" wouldnt exist by tomorrow.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28031 on: October 03, 2016, 07:18:46 am »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28032 on: October 03, 2016, 07:26:26 am »

You are wrong folks, POS is not green! Because to buy your stake you need money, which you got from work that has cost you energy ;D
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wolffang

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28034 on: October 04, 2016, 05:43:49 am »

The first Buy Orders for $ARDR are placed on #Nxt #Asset #Exchange. In about 1 week #Ardor #tokens can be traded!
https://www.mynxt.info/asset/12422608354438203866
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28035 on: October 04, 2016, 05:51:15 am »


If we'll start at $0.01 per ARDOR (means $10mio marketcap), it can be success - in the intentions, how few amount of people knows anything about NXT, ARDOR, PoS ... (the same is valid for most altcoins, I guess).


have you seen how strong the nxt price correlates with the ardor distribution? everything under 0.04$ would be weird
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28036 on: October 04, 2016, 11:25:21 am »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28037 on: October 04, 2016, 03:27:23 pm »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28038 on: October 04, 2016, 05:00:51 pm »

The first Buy Orders for $ARDR are placed on #Nxt #Asset #Exchange. In about 1 week #Ardor #tokens can be traded!
https://www.mynxt.info/asset/12422608354438203866

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #28039 on: October 04, 2016, 05:13:46 pm »

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