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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27620 on: July 14, 2016, 09:48:55 am »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27621 on: July 14, 2016, 10:02:59 am »

is https://test.nxtportal.org/monitor/  in a fork??  :o :o :o

edit: never mind. I didnt realize that this is the testnet monitor..
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27622 on: July 14, 2016, 10:53:31 am »

Would it be possible for a large stakeholder to setup buy and sell options for ARDR assets? For example, one buy option gives the right to one ARDR asset on October 12 and one sell option gives the right to sell one ARDR asset on October 12. There could even be several buy and sell options, at different call levels. For example 10 buy options (1000, 2000, ..., 10000 Sats). Free market forces will define the prices of these options. I would certainly be interested in trading such options.
What I am suggesting is European-style options with a fixed maturity date on October 12 or 13, see: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/europeanoption.asp
Such a scheme would only work if there is a reliable and trustworthy stakeholder offering the call&put options. (unless some sort of smart contract could be written?)

Agreed. But that's not easy or we should saw bitcoin options already.

Maybe we should build a assets options exchange on top of AE.  ::)

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27623 on: July 14, 2016, 11:04:35 am »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27624 on: July 14, 2016, 11:16:07 am »

Wake up guys, price increase now ;)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27625 on: July 14, 2016, 12:28:31 pm »

Would it be possible for a large stakeholder to setup buy and sell options for ARDR assets? For example, one buy option gives the right to one ARDR asset on October 12 and one sell option gives the right to sell one ARDR asset on October 12. There could even be several buy and sell options, at different call levels. For example 10 buy options (1000, 2000, ..., 10000 Sats). Free market forces will define the prices of these options. I would certainly be interested in trading such options.
What I am suggesting is European-style options with a fixed maturity date on October 12 or 13, see: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/europeanoption.asp
Such a scheme would only work if there is a reliable and trustworthy stakeholder offering the call&put options. (unless some sort of smart contract could be written?)

Agreed. But that's not easy or we should saw bitcoin options already.

Maybe we should build a assets options exchange on top of AE.  ::)
I guess the core devs are busy with Ardor for the next 12-18 months, but maybe someone else with the required NXT API skills could develop something? In the beginning, we could start at a relatively small-scale, for example by limiting the number of ARDR call&put options to a reasonable amount (for example 100,000 or 1 million?) On the other hand, it does not have to be very complicated - the call&put options could just be normal asset on AE, but a thrustworthy stakeholder has to offer this (so that we can be sure that we will actually receive or can sell the ARDR assets in October). The call&put options could be priced in NXT.

I'd like to remind anyone who has the skills that they can contact the Core devs at any time about contributing to the Core software.
Send Riker or Jean Luc a PM to discuss these things and they will always listen. They will of course test your skills, but the Core is open to people joining and it's good to have new blood flowing in.

Don't be shy if you have the skills!
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27626 on: July 14, 2016, 12:31:05 pm »

Today NXT takes the 5k sat ground to never ever give it up again. Kick me in the balls if it doesn't :)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27627 on: July 14, 2016, 12:40:03 pm »

Today NXT takes the 5k sat ground to never ever give it up again. Kick me in the balls if it doesn't :)

Ok, can you PM me your address if I need to come to kick your genitals.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27628 on: July 14, 2016, 12:41:06 pm »

Today NXT takes the 5k sat ground to never ever give it up again. Kick me in the balls if it doesn't :)

Ok, can you PM me your address if I need to come to kick your genitals.

Nxt has a helpful community  ;D
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27629 on: July 14, 2016, 12:43:34 pm »

Today NXT takes the 5k sat ground to never ever give it up again. Kick me in the balls if it doesn't :)

Ok, can you PM me your address if I need to come to kick your genitals.

Oh you, of little faith! :)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27630 on: July 14, 2016, 02:27:50 pm »

Today NXT takes the 5k sat ground to never ever give it up again. Kick me in the balls if it doesn't :)
Do you have any analyses as to why you are so sure?

If I look at RSI, Volume, EMA's and VWAP: they are all over the place (yes yes, TA hocus-pocus  :D )
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27631 on: July 14, 2016, 02:33:18 pm »

Today NXT takes the 5k sat ground to never ever give it up again. Kick me in the balls if it doesn't :)
Do you have any analyses as to why you are so sure?

If I look at RSI, Volume, EMA's and VWAP: they are all over the place (yes yes, TA hocus-pocus  :D )

Just my gut feeling.
Analysis is for cowards :P
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27632 on: July 14, 2016, 04:40:09 pm »

Ardor Partytime! Snapshots started!!!

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27633 on: July 14, 2016, 06:05:53 pm »

Ardor Partytime! Snapshots started!!!



Time to sell your NXT
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27634 on: July 14, 2016, 08:54:26 pm »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27635 on: July 14, 2016, 09:29:47 pm »

Ardor Partytime! Snapshots started!!!



Time to sell your NXT

Not till october right?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27636 on: July 14, 2016, 09:31:53 pm »

2017, right.

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27637 on: July 14, 2016, 09:39:57 pm »

2017, right.

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No, the snapshots stop Oct 12, 2016 and the ARDOR assests are issued on NXT 1.x.

When Ardor actually launches in 2017 you exchange Ardor assets for Ardor coins (which is the parent chain token right?) Then NXT will become a child chain and you get 1 FNX for 2 NXT that you currently have on 1/7/2017.

At least that's how I read it all. But, I wouldn't be surprised if I have something wrong.

This: http://nxt.org/roadmap/

...really needs to be updated with correct names and dates.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #27638 on: July 15, 2016, 05:18:21 am »

Today NXT takes the 5k sat ground to never ever give it up again. Kick me in the balls if it doesn't :)

As usual I am either contrarianly right too early or completely wrong with predictions, depends how you look at it :D
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Re: Price speculation
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