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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26020 on: December 24, 2015, 09:15:32 am »

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you do realize that transparent forging isn't happening unless an 'economic cluster' is 'formed'. that is so far away, that transparent forging shouldn't even be on the roadmap. i don't think it helps to advertise that feature right now.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26021 on: December 24, 2015, 12:00:18 pm »

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you do realize that transparent forging isn't happening unless an 'economic cluster' is 'formed'. that is so far away, that transparent forging shouldn't even be on the roadmap. i don't think it helps to advertise that feature right now.

So we should not talk about and discuss the vision of NXT? And the grand vision of NXT is of no interest or use in marketing? Crypto folks are akin to grand visions I think.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26022 on: December 24, 2015, 01:12:16 pm »

idk, the whole bcnext cfb transparent forging thing only gets a yawn out of me. its been said so many times. i don't think it works as a headliner for advertising anymore. if i recall correct it was promised in a certain timeframe and not delivered (the code is there if im not mistaken, but its not activated) for whatever reason. just a guess, but maybe cfb didn't fully understand what he promised at the time or he overestimated the progress nxt would make in adoption.

there is nothing wrong in describing the vision ofc
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26023 on: December 24, 2015, 01:55:49 pm »

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you do realize that transparent forging isn't happening unless an 'economic cluster' is 'formed'. that is so far away, that transparent forging shouldn't even be on the roadmap. i don't think it helps to advertise that feature right now.

So we should not talk about and discuss the vision of NXT? And the grand vision of NXT is of no interest or use in marketing? Crypto folks are akin to grand visions I think.
Talk is cheap. Anyone can promise wonderful technology. At this point I'd say Nxt's USP is the technology it has actually delivered. Especially with 1.7, where account control and shuffling fill in two of the last important holes, and fixing the block-time algorithm removes one of the big headaches.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26024 on: December 25, 2015, 10:00:26 am »

because we discussed exchange / cold wallets some days ago and the distribution thing i started a small project listing all well known big wallets from exchanges or funds. maybe this way we are able to show the real distribution to the public. many people think the big wallets are whales dumping their coins.

as far i have this list which updates its balance every hour.
http://www.nxtcs.com/main/nxt_accounts_identified

i would be happy if someone also knows other accounts to show there. a good information text on top would also be nice.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26025 on: December 25, 2015, 11:35:17 am »

because we discussed exchange / cold wallets some days ago and the distribution thing i started a small project listing all well known big wallets from exchanges or funds. maybe this way we are able to show the real distribution to the public. many people think the big wallets are whales dumping their coins.

as far i have this list which updates its balance every hour.
http://www.nxtcs.com/main/nxt_accounts_identified

i would be happy if someone also knows other accounts to show there. a good information text on top would also be nice.

POLONIEX -  NXT-253H-ESRL-K87C-4R9FG
BTER COLD - NXT-R3V3-2S79-F3ZM-BVXKZ
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26026 on: December 25, 2015, 01:05:36 pm »

POLONIEX -  NXT-253H-ESRL-K87C-4R9FG
BTER COLD - NXT-R3V3-2S79-F3ZM-BVXKZ

thanks! i have added them to the list
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26027 on: December 25, 2015, 05:26:30 pm »

Happy Christmas. ladies and gentlemen !

Wishing all of the Nxt community a very happy seasonal feast, and lots of good stuff for the New Year.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26028 on: December 25, 2015, 07:23:44 pm »

Happy Christmas. ladies and gentlemen !

Wishing all of the Nxt community a very happy seasonal feast, and lots of good stuff for the New Year.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26029 on: December 25, 2015, 07:48:56 pm »

Happy Christmas. ladies and gentlemen !

Wishing all of the Nxt community a very happy seasonal feast, and lots of good stuff for the New Year.
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yes wish to you too guys!  ;D
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26030 on: December 25, 2015, 08:20:33 pm »

NXT gaining traction, great publicity on Daily Decrypt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui8FSXAeh1M
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26031 on: December 26, 2015, 08:38:58 am »

Maybe this could help.

EB105 – Vlad Zamfir: Bringing Ethereum Towards Proof-Of-Stake With Casper: https://epicenterbitcoin.com/podcast/105/

This is the last comment I got after mentioning NXT:

"You want respect for NXT? Here's what you need to do. Make a 30 minute, super detailed and easy to understand video about NXTs PoS system so that even a layman could understand it, because right now NO ONE can understand it. And that's the problem. Open source means nothing if no one can understand the code"

I don't have the knowledge to explain NXT but many do. Is there a video explaining NXT and POS? Just something for guys like this, someone who is interested but doesn't understand so they just keep bagging it because they are frustrated that no one can explain it. And comparisons/advantages with BTC, not dissing BTC but just objective discussions about advantages.

We must debunk and disprove all these monkeys on NXT's back in a professional manner. Ignorance about - Nothing at stake, distribution, staking, security,token supply etc.

If no one can point me to a video or explanation that a layman/general investor/user can understand then I'll be in touch with Evil Dave and work on getting something done.

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26032 on: December 26, 2015, 09:32:00 am »

No one can explain NXT and POS. What about that comparison of each coin to a small mining rig like POW in Bitcoin? The more coins, the more mining rigs, hashing power you get. Who has more hashing power has more chance to produce a block. What's so hard to grasp? The concept is simple.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26033 on: December 26, 2015, 11:52:35 am »

No one can explain NXT and POS.
I thinks NXT Core devs can,the key is whether they want to .
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26034 on: December 26, 2015, 01:41:46 pm »

No one can explain NXT and POS. What about that comparison of each coin to a small mining rig like POW in Bitcoin? The more coins, the more mining rigs, hashing power you get. Who has more hashing power has more chance to produce a block. What's so hard to grasp? The concept is simple.

Seems rather simple to me http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Whitepaper:Nxt#Nxt.E2.80.99s_Proof_of_Stake_Model
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26035 on: December 26, 2015, 05:39:27 pm »

No one can explain NXT and POS.
I thinks NXT Core devs can,the key is whether they want to .

This is one that goes over the basics of proof of stake and what the nothing at stake attack is.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pzIl3vmEytY

I made it a few months ago and it seems to explain decently.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26036 on: December 26, 2015, 09:42:25 pm »

No one can explain NXT and POS.
I thinks NXT Core devs can,the key is whether they want to .

This is one that goes over the basics of proof of stake and what the nothing at stake attack is.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pzIl3vmEytY

I made it a few months ago and it seems to explain decently.

See more recent discussion of the N@S attack and it's applicability to NXT here http://nxter.org/the-regulatory-process-if-youre-not-at-the-table-youre-on-the-menu/
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26037 on: December 26, 2015, 09:56:53 pm »

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you do realize that transparent forging isn't happening unless an 'economic cluster' is 'formed'. that is so far away, that transparent forging shouldn't even be on the roadmap. i don't think it helps to advertise that feature right now.

Can you or somebody else ELI5 why we need EC before we can punish a forger who skips his turn?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #26038 on: December 27, 2015, 06:52:30 am »

Nxt mentioned in the list of white papers to read:

http://startupmanagement.org/2014/12/16/the-ultimate-list-of-bitcoin-and-blockchain-white-papers/

Description: "NXT is attempting to build an ecosystem based on its own blockchain, and focused on trustless financial transactions. It includes its own (computing) client and online wallets."

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« Reply #26039 on: December 27, 2015, 10:50:28 am »

Nxt mentioned in the list of white papers to read:

http://startupmanagement.org/2014/12/16/the-ultimate-list-of-bitcoin-and-blockchain-white-papers/

Description: "NXT is attempting to build an ecosystem based on its own blockchain, and focused on trustless financial transactions. It includes its own (computing) client and online wallets."

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