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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25980 on: December 21, 2015, 03:02:44 pm »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25981 on: December 21, 2015, 03:25:26 pm »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25982 on: December 22, 2015, 12:28:46 am »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25983 on: December 22, 2015, 01:40:56 am »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25984 on: December 22, 2015, 02:28:04 am »

so i guess at this point Supernet is pretty much dead on arrival?

i hope not, i`m using it currently, it will be good to see some development :D
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25985 on: December 22, 2015, 07:10:40 am »

BTC38.com become the NXT No.1 trading volume exchange,3 numbers are keep raise.

1) People who own NXT.
2) Total NXT in BTC38 stock.
3) Each people own NXT number.

I suppose that's a good thing.

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25986 on: December 22, 2015, 08:01:54 am »

It's still so common to see negative comments about NXT distribution. Someone will comment on a video 'hey what about NXT" and it will get down-voted and someone will hammer it with 'poor distribution' comments. I can see this taking 4 or 5 years to wear off no matter how good the distribution becomes. Fresh money and great tech will slowly solve this and I look forward to that time.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25987 on: December 22, 2015, 11:21:24 am »

BTC38.com become the NXT No.1 trading volume exchange,3 numbers are keep raise.

1) People who own NXT.
2) Total NXT in BTC38 stock.
3) Each people own NXT number.


So you mean that not only the number of people (1) but the average amount per person (3) is rising.
Do you have any idea of why NXT seems so fixed in terms of CNY price? There have been a few wobbles, but it is remarkably stable all things considered.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25988 on: December 22, 2015, 11:30:24 am »

So you mean that not only the number of people (1) but the average amount per person (3) is rising.
Do you have any idea of why NXT seems so fixed in terms of CNY price? There have been a few wobbles, but it is remarkably stable all things considered.

Yes for your first question.

The minimum change value of NXT/CNY is 0.001CNY,right now the price is 0.04,so minimum change value is 2.5%,that's maybe the reason why CNY price looks so stable to you.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25989 on: December 22, 2015, 12:18:28 pm »

So you mean that not only the number of people (1) but the average amount per person (3) is rising.
Do you have any idea of why NXT seems so fixed in terms of CNY price? There have been a few wobbles, but it is remarkably stable all things considered.

Yes for your first question.

The minimum change value of NXT/CNY is 0.001CNY,right now the price is 0.04,so minimum change value is 2.5%,that's maybe the reason why CNY price looks so stable to you.

Hm, ok. Just seems like NXT has been pretty much fixed in terms of CNY for quite a while. It sometimes changes, but then sticks at that level.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25990 on: December 22, 2015, 01:37:39 pm »

We should drop objective facts about NXT initial and actual distribution here and there in our marketing campaign. The prejudices are still floating around in the minds of people. They will not accept NXT as decentralized until they get educated about that. At the same time we must explain, why the rich don't get richer in our POS, but keep their percentage of forging power. People HAVE TO understand that in order to like NXT.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25991 on: December 22, 2015, 02:46:46 pm »

We should drop objective facts about NXT initial and actual distribution here and there in our marketing campaign. The prejudices are still floating around in the minds of people. They will not accept NXT as decentralized until they get educated about that. At the same time we must explain, why the rich don't get richer in our POS, but keep their percentage of forging power. People HAVE TO understand that in order to like NXT.

We used to have that great page of charts, showing current distribution etc.
Is it possible to set something like this up again?
Showing data visually so you can just link to a page always works better than saying it in words.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25992 on: December 22, 2015, 03:20:58 pm »

So you mean that not only the number of people (1) but the average amount per person (3) is rising.
Do you have any idea of why NXT seems so fixed in terms of CNY price? There have been a few wobbles, but it is remarkably stable all things considered.

Yes for your first question.

The minimum change value of NXT/CNY is 0.001CNY,right now the price is 0.04,so minimum change value is 2.5%,that's maybe the reason why CNY price looks so stable to you.

Do you have a contact there? I hear they have 70m NXT in a hot wallet, and we really don't want a repeat of BTER. Seems like they need a little guidance.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25993 on: December 22, 2015, 03:23:42 pm »

We should drop objective facts about NXT initial and actual distribution here and there in our marketing campaign. The prejudices are still floating around in the minds of people. They will not accept NXT as decentralized until they get educated about that. At the same time we must explain, why the rich don't get richer in our POS, but keep their percentage of forging power. People HAVE TO understand that in order to like NXT.

We used to have that great page of charts, showing current distribution etc.
Is it possible to set something like this up again?
Showing data visually so you can just link to a page always works better than saying it in words.

Yeah, we should do that. But D'Angelo's point was: All these anonymous accounts could be the Chinese gov. We should therefore also address how the vision of TF helps to convince honest forgers to assume that the accounts belong to different persons. And how the forgers can still keep their anonymity. This is a complex issue. But crypto people are capable to understand such things. The problem of real decentralization is getting more and more popular. So NXT's solution should too.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25994 on: December 22, 2015, 03:56:06 pm »

We should drop objective facts about NXT initial and actual distribution here and there in our marketing campaign.

Is it worth it? Nothing has been discussed more than the distribution. Also I think anonymity or pseudoanonymity is one of the most important features of cryptos. Being able to know or estimate who owns how much goes against that idea.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25995 on: December 22, 2015, 04:24:28 pm »

We should drop objective facts about NXT initial and actual distribution here and there in our marketing campaign.

Is it worth it? Nothing has been discussed more than the distribution. Also I think anonymity or pseudoanonymity is one of the most important features of cryptos. Being able to know or estimate who owns how much goes against that idea.

We talked about distribution in a CfB-marketing way. Let's talk about it in a professional marketing way now, since we have the right people and the funds.

Transparent forging makes NXT forging transparent and anonymous at the same time. Transparent is the pubkey. Anonymous is the reallife ID of the owner of the corresponding privkey. He can be punished if he acts strange. That solves D'Angelo's problem with BTC. Not knowing which pubkey owns how much NXT is against the idea of blockchain ;)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25996 on: December 22, 2015, 06:02:50 pm »

we must explain, why the rich don't get richer in our POS, but keep their percentage of forging power. People HAVE TO understand that in order to like NXT.
I think that's mostly the PoW crypto crowd, the (ex-)miners, get rich quick. Although not to be neglected, imo that's not what NXT should focus on. I find these discussions about mining/forging and about distribution to be quite distracting from the interesting topics. The main topic should be the possibilities of using crypto-tokens to do innovative things in a dev-friendly way. Would be great to connect to the XDA crowd for example. And maybe also emphasize the 'greenness' of NXT, it runs on a RaspberryPi. No huge Chinese server farms wasting precious energy. I'm sure that's important to a lot of people too.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25997 on: December 22, 2015, 06:03:38 pm »

We should drop objective facts about NXT initial and actual distribution here and there in our marketing campaign.

Is it worth it? Nothing has been discussed more than the distribution. Also I think anonymity or pseudoanonymity is one of the most important features of cryptos. Being able to know or estimate who owns how much goes against that idea.

Let's talk about it in a professional marketing way now, since we have the right people and the funds.


I'll restate that I think it's a bad idea. Saying anything about the distribution highlights one of the problems with currect blockhain technology. Also Coin shuffling will provide a partial fix to that problem. Note that the traditional banking system doesn't publish everybody's account balances.

Somebody asks: I heard that the distribution is bad, is that true?
Answer: We don't know anymore, because we have Coin shuffling. I you wish, I can provide you some historical information. I also don't know how many dollars my bank has in each account. That's the way money works.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25998 on: December 22, 2015, 06:31:31 pm »

An article about Nxt on le-coin-coin.fr:

https://le-coin-coin.fr/3276-nxt-en-fete-interview-de-ludom/
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25999 on: December 22, 2015, 11:50:56 pm »

This is the last comment I got after mentioning NXT:

"You want respect for NXT? Here's what you need to do. Make a 30 minute, super detailed and easy to understand video about NXTs PoS system so that even a layman could understand it, because right now NO ONE can understand it. And that's the problem. Open source means nothing if no one can understand the code"

I don't have the knowledge to explain NXT but many do. Is there a video explaining NXT and POS? Just something for guys like this, someone who is interested but doesn't understand so they just keep bagging it because they are frustrated that no one can explain it. And comparisons/advantages with BTC, not dissing BTC but just objective discussions about advantages.

We must debunk and disprove all these monkeys on NXT's back in a professional manner. Ignorance about - Nothing at stake, distribution, staking, security,token supply etc.

If no one can point me to a video or explanation that a layman/general investor/user can understand then I'll be in touch with Evil Dave and work on getting something done.

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