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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25480 on: November 09, 2015, 09:35:01 am »


James is blackmailing NXT, dumping just to stamp his feet, and for what?  He could have fixed the problem. 

The truth is that James has been taking money from people for well over 1.5 years and delivered $#!+ all.  He makes asset after asset and promises people that if they buy, they will be rich, that his projects will have big returns.  In reality he acts like a little kid when it comes to an API code, blackmails people and dumps the price of NXT.  Does JL take lots of money from people making big promises to them?  No, he just codes solid code that actually works.  The differences between JL and James are night and day.  One deserves respect, and the other not.

Could you please elaborate a bit on the 'blackmailing' part?

I am not an insider and didn't read 58 pages of Slack conversation. hahahaha

I was mainly getting my info from this thread, from people I assumed had read or been witness to the conversation. 

So in earnestness if I was mislead and have misrepresented the situation, I am sorry.

If Supernet splits from NXT, it'll be Supernet that fails not NXT.

SuperNET is not going to 'split' from NXT. SuperNET will natively implement some functionality that it is currently accessing on the NXT API.

The assets and the fee, dividend and revenue stream structures remain.

Well why is James "rage selling" his NXT?

As was talked on slack, he is emotionally trying to show, that he can dump the price significantly, so this is a protest to core devs. Also consider the price of this millions, now he bids 20K NXT for BTC, no one will buy that, so for now this is just a protest.

A little hotheaded over an API change don't you think?  His blackmail attempts don't inspire a lot of confidence in him or his software.  Maybe we should just play out this game of mutually assured destruction that he's started and anybody who holds his assets should dump them.  A lot more NXTers hold his "assets" than he holds NXT.  Let's push the button and see who survives.  Hint: It won't be James or Supernet.

But if he has 20 million NXT up for sale (in theory rage dumping over this issue, not to just raise funds) and is dropping the price because he isn't getting his way, and would presumably pull those bids if he did get his way, what would you call it?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25481 on: November 09, 2015, 09:38:48 am »

Thanks LocoMB,

I really need your feedback, But let me know some questions:

1-Who is this Bytemaster that you referenced him? Sorry I don't know!
2-What wrong with the link you provided? I cannot understand carefully.
3-Same anointed ones also in NXT community! Bcnext Anointed them and they do what ever they wish to do! But in reality I have no problem with that! Let them do whatever they wish. What is important for one Un-anonited like me is that what services they give better and more. And they have some services better and more than NXT, so personally I may wish to give a it a try!

Let me know if you find me in wrong way.

Thanks,
Sepehr

1- Bytemaster is the founder and main dev of Bitshares Dan Larimer
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25482 on: November 09, 2015, 09:42:20 am »

Guys,

I understood that in bitshare it is possible to trade Asset to Assets.

This is very interesting and I may transfer some of my assets to bitshare.

Any feedback appreciated.

I asked several times this option from NXT Community but seems that big players don't like it!

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19806

Sure, go join the commies.  Nobody is going to use your Iranian crypto exchange anyway.

Let me know what you mean with Commies? Let me know please!
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25483 on: November 09, 2015, 09:46:42 am »

 

Sure, go join the commies.  Nobody is going to use your Iranian crypto exchange anyway.

Let me know what you mean with Commies? Let me know please!

He is a bit unprecise,
He means the fascist elitists that have built in all kind of methods to manipulate Bitshares, sort of like Wall Street and Federal Reserve.

Which is in the end the same as Stalin and his communist goons, because all they do is steal.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25484 on: November 09, 2015, 09:52:51 am »



Thanks LocoMB,

I really need your feedback, But let me know some questions:

1-Who is this Bytemaster that you referenced him? Sorry I don't know!
2-What wrong with the link you provided? I cannot understand carefully.
3-Same anointed ones also in NXT community! Bcnext Anointed them and they do what ever they wish to do! But in reality I have no problem with that! Let them do whatever they wish. What is important for one Un-anonited like me is that what services they give better and more. And they have some services better and more than NXT, so personally I may wish to give a it a try!

Let me know if you find me in wrong way.

Thanks,
Sepehr

There is huge difference between NXT devs and Bitshares devs.

Bitshares devs have built in mechanisms into Bitshares to *manipulate prices* of assets on their platform.
Nxt devs have not done such scams.
Also, Nxt devs have realized they made a mistake, and are implementing a mechanism of change in an open process.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25485 on: November 09, 2015, 09:55:15 am »



Thanks LocoMB,

I really need your feedback, But let me know some questions:

1-Who is this Bytemaster that you referenced him? Sorry I don't know!
2-What wrong with the link you provided? I cannot understand carefully.
3-Same anointed ones also in NXT community! Bcnext Anointed them and they do what ever they wish to do! But in reality I have no problem with that! Let them do whatever they wish. What is important for one Un-anonited like me is that what services they give better and more. And they have some services better and more than NXT, so personally I may wish to give a it a try!

Let me know if you find me in wrong way.

Thanks,
Sepehr

There is huge difference between NXT devs and Bitshares devs.

Bitshares devs have built in mechanisms into Bitshares to *manipulate prices* of assets on their platform.
Nxt devs have not done such scams.
Also, Nxt devs have realized they made a mistake, and are implementing a mechanism of change in an open process.

Can you point me to the bolden part?

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25486 on: November 09, 2015, 09:57:38 am »

Saying you will "never" do something is outrageous and immature yourself. Why don't you just join the clown show? Oh, wait you just did.

If Supernet starts to deliver even 10% of its projects over the next 18 months, you'll be buying hand over fist. Will it happen? Who the hell knows. But as much as we don't need Devs acting like 4 year olds, we don't need you to either.

This is an absolute travesty coming from 2Kool4Skewl! James is exhausted from two years of constant effort, and he doesn't deserve to be called immature by the likes of you. What gives you the right to call anyone in crypto forums immature?  You've made yourself a humor troll, stick with the memes bro!

2Kool4Skewl is a textbook example of what is traditionally known as a "troll", so I am sure his opinions can be given appropriate worth.

Listen, I've known "James" way before any of you had ever even heard of him and before NXT even existed.  "James" was immature when I knew him back then too.  He seemed like a "good kid", but he was still a kid and obviously still is one.  Now, I'm never going to purchase any of "James" assets and I never have because of what I knew.  I did though give him the benefit of the doubt because you can't put an old head on young shoulders.  Right now his behavior is hurting all NXT holders, but mainly he's hurting his investors and himself.  This is unacceptable.  I am not going to sit here and lose money because he's upset.  Grow up "James".  People make mistakes get over it.  Right now, you're treading on some thin ice and if you don't pull those ask walls and start acting responsibly with your investors money, people are going to get really upset.

As for me being a "troll", the problem with some of you is that you take the inconsequential stuff too seriously and the serious stuff too lightly.  I'm more mature than the mass majority of you, but I know how to take a joke.  Get your priorities straight and lighten up.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25487 on: November 09, 2015, 11:13:10 am »


Saying you will "never" do something is outrageous and immature yourself. Why don't you just join the clown show? Oh, wait you just did.

If Supernet starts to deliver even 10% of its projects over the next 18 months, you'll be buying hand over fist. Will it happen? Who the hell knows. But as much as we don't need Devs acting like 4 year olds, we don't need you to either.

This is an absolute travesty coming from 2Kool4Skewl! James is exhausted from two years of constant effort, and he doesn't deserve to be called immature by the likes of you. What gives you the right to call anyone in crypto forums immature?  You've made yourself a humor troll, stick with the memes bro!

2Kool4Skewl is a textbook example of what is traditionally known as a "troll", so I am sure his opinions can be given appropriate worth.

Listen, I've known "James" way before any of you had ever even heard of him and before NXT even existed.  "James" was immature when I knew him back then too.  He seemed like a "good kid", but he was still a kid and obviously still is one.  Now, I'm never going to purchase any of "James" assets and I never have because of what I knew.  I did though give him the benefit of the doubt because you can't put an old head on young shoulders.  Right now his behavior is hurting all NXT holders, but mainly he's hurting his investors and himself.  This is unacceptable.  I am not going to sit here and lose money because he's upset.  Grow up "James".  People make mistakes get over it.  Right now, you're treading on some thin ice and if you don't pull those ask walls and start acting responsibly with your investors money, people are going to get really upset.

As for me being a "troll", the problem with some of you is that you take the inconsequential stuff too seriously and the serious stuff too lightly.  I'm more mature than the mass majority of you, but I know how to take a joke.  Get your priorities straight and lighten up.
I once saw you as a valuable member of the community. Today, you are just starting senseless discussions, introduce weird ideas and spread FUD. Really sad.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25488 on: November 09, 2015, 11:20:51 am »

I don't understand the drama about SuperNET selling NXT. People are yelling that there is a "dump", when it clearly is not. How many even checked the actual orders? People just spread these rumors and that is what is hurting NXT, BTCD and SuperNET price.

So the market price for NXT is 0.000017, and SuperNET is selling it from 0,00002 to 0,00005. I think the defenition of a dump is, that you sell a lot of it below market price.

So what does this tell us? SuperNET has decided to sell NXT during a long period of time. It will take months to sell all that. James clearly dosesn't want to sell it at these prices, but believes NXT price to raise.

If there is something that we should criticise James, is the lack of communication. There should be have been a "press release" prior to the sell orders.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25489 on: November 09, 2015, 11:22:30 am »


Saying you will "never" do something is outrageous and immature yourself. Why don't you just join the clown show? Oh, wait you just did.

If Supernet starts to deliver even 10% of its projects over the next 18 months, you'll be buying hand over fist. Will it happen? Who the hell knows. But as much as we don't need Devs acting like 4 year olds, we don't need you to either.

This is an absolute travesty coming from 2Kool4Skewl! James is exhausted from two years of constant effort, and he doesn't deserve to be called immature by the likes of you. What gives you the right to call anyone in crypto forums immature?  You've made yourself a humor troll, stick with the memes bro!

2Kool4Skewl is a textbook example of what is traditionally known as a "troll", so I am sure his opinions can be given appropriate worth.

Listen, I've known "James" way before any of you had ever even heard of him and before NXT even existed.  "James" was immature when I knew him back then too.  He seemed like a "good kid", but he was still a kid and obviously still is one.  Now, I'm never going to purchase any of "James" assets and I never have because of what I knew.  I did though give him the benefit of the doubt because you can't put an old head on young shoulders.  Right now his behavior is hurting all NXT holders, but mainly he's hurting his investors and himself.  This is unacceptable.  I am not going to sit here and lose money because he's upset.  Grow up "James".  People make mistakes get over it.  Right now, you're treading on some thin ice and if you don't pull those ask walls and start acting responsibly with your investors money, people are going to get really upset.

As for me being a "troll", the problem with some of you is that you take the inconsequential stuff too seriously and the serious stuff too lightly.  I'm more mature than the mass majority of you, but I know how to take a joke.  Get your priorities straight and lighten up.
I once saw you as a valuable member of the community. Today, you are just starting senseless discussions, introduce weird ideas and spread FUD. Really sad.

My loyalties are with NXT.  I just thing we should eliminate anyone who intentionally attempts to sabotage us, regardless, if they have malice or just a crazy hair up their ass.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25490 on: November 09, 2015, 11:24:07 am »

COME ON BERZERK!!!! YOU CAN'T DELETE ALL MY POSTS!!!!


TRAITOR!!!! TRAITOR!!!! THE GLOBAL MOD BERZERK IS A TRAITOR TO FREEDOM AND NXT!!!!
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25491 on: November 09, 2015, 11:25:04 am »

COME ON BERZERK!!!! YOU CAN'T DELETE ALL MY POSTS!!!!


TRAITOR!!!! TRAITOR!!!! THE GLOBAL MOD BERZERK IS A TRAITOR TO FREEDOM AND NXT!!!!

I didn't deleted it. It's in the morque. ::)

I moved it, because it was spam. This thread is a spam thread, so it's ok if you write it here. But please stay sane. :)
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« Reply #25492 on: November 09, 2015, 11:26:24 am »

COME ON BERZERK!!!! YOU CAN'T DELETE ALL MY POSTS!!!!


TRAITOR!!!! TRAITOR!!!! THE GLOBAL MOD BERZERK IS A TRAITOR TO FREEDOM AND NXT!!!!

I didn't deleted it. It's in the morque. :)

WELL HERE'S THE LINK SO THEY CAN SEE YOU BEING SO IMPARTIAL AND CONDUCTING YOUR DUTIES WITH SUCH DILIGENCE!
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25493 on: November 09, 2015, 11:27:27 am »

COME ON BERZERK!!!! YOU CAN'T DELETE ALL MY POSTS!!!!


TRAITOR!!!! TRAITOR!!!! THE GLOBAL MOD BERZERK IS A TRAITOR TO FREEDOM AND NXT!!!!

I didn't deleted it. It's in the morque. :)

WELL HERE'S THE LINK SO THEY CAN SEE YOU BEING SO IMPARTIAL AND CONDUCTING YOUR DUTIES WITH SUCH DILIGENCE!

Ok. Please take a look here, while you are on a rampage: https://nxtforum.org/meta-forum/nxtforum-org-registration-agreement-june-2-2014/

Thanks. :)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25494 on: November 09, 2015, 11:43:56 am »

2kool2skewl, you say James is immature etc etc, but honestly dude, look at your own posts.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25495 on: November 09, 2015, 11:46:34 am »

It's 2kool2skewl's trademark, he is here to entertain/annoy/make us think.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25496 on: November 09, 2015, 11:46:41 am »

I asked several times this option from NXT Community but seems that big players don't like it!
- sorry, what YOU did for Nxt community?
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« Reply #25497 on: November 09, 2015, 12:04:18 pm »

I asked several times this option from NXT Community but seems that big players don't like it!
- sorry, what YOU did for Nxt community?


Let us not begin to create a caste system in Nxt.

Just being here and reading this thread is doing more for Nxt than 99.99999% of the world is doing right now  ;)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25498 on: November 09, 2015, 12:15:00 pm »

Crossposting from Slack as there are some very unhappy people around in both places.

From Eth:
https://sprnt.slack.com/archives/general/p1447070929002674
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Ok, after this relaxing, funny chat that lightened up a bit the spirit and on a bit more serious note:We are still waiting for a few individuals to voice themselves, then we'll have an announcement, please do not ask for ETAs as I cannot give these and only would serve to create more stress among the already stressed people.
Perhaps there are less reasons to do so that it looks like, so please, stay calm and do not expect apocalyptic stuff happening.

(The background, aside from the API issue, was a conversation about spooning started by Wesley, who has returned to corrupt our innocent minds.)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25499 on: November 09, 2015, 12:30:37 pm »

It's 2kool2skewl's trademark, he is here to entertain/annoy/make us think.

He is our happy troll.
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