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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25460 on: November 09, 2015, 07:27:17 am »

If Supernet splits from NXT, it'll be Supernet that fails not NXT.

SuperNET is not going to 'split' from NXT. SuperNET will natively implement some functionality that it is currently accessing on the NXT API.

The assets and the fee, dividend and revenue stream structures remain.

Well why is James "rage selling" his NXT?

As was talked on slack, he is emotionally trying to show, that he can dump the price significantly, so this is a protest to core devs. Also consider the price of this millions, now he bids 20K NXT for BTC, no one will buy that, so for now this is just a protest.

A little hotheaded over an API change don't you think?  His blackmail attempts don't inspire a lot of confidence in him or his software.  Maybe we should just play out this game of mutually assured destruction that he's started and anybody who holds his assets should dump them.  A lot more NXTers hold his "assets" than he holds NXT.  Let's push the button and see who survives.  Hint: It won't be James or Supernet.

No, I think the truth is in remarks from both sides - core devs have made a mistake while changing API and so giving a reason to eveyone not to believe NXT at all and not to build serious corporative platforms on top of it. They should be considered like guys who have largest NXT stakes, so they are feeling technical and economical power (but saying that I am not going to hurt them, I respect their continous hardworking on the core features). And I should say, this facts could kill NXT. Like mentionally-caught parents could kill their child with infinite love.

Second side is James. He is advanced and very creative, open-mind dev of SuperNET, which could be considered like "such large corporative project on top of nxt" which is very useful and important for NXT platform. And after changing API - it fails. There is no matter, whether it is easy to fix or not (this is the argues of core devs, that the fixing is extremley simple). Now his work is failed due to risk of API changing, it will take him more work to fix the code and to put away some technical nxt dependancies.

SO. It is clear, that James is very important to our community, and thus, to a price o NXT, James will not leave SuperNET from NXT completley it is for sure, but this act of selling 20M nxt - is an act of protest and demand for core devs to mention and to respect the users of the core (cause building a systems on top of the nxt - it is also - a "using a system" of NXT). But his dumping... Don't like this to be real dump :)

So there is no need to talk about is he survives after his dump. I also think, that it is crucial for one man to rebuild the SuperNET, it is crucial for everybody - cause NXT platform and SuperNET - are losing clients and investors both. I think the way of both sides is to respect  each other and produce a synergy, not competition.

James is being too emotional and showing his immaturity.  He is costing NXT and SuperNet investors money because he is upset.  All of his investors are NXT investors also.  How is intentionally trying to suppress the price in anyone's best interest?

James is obviously too immature to handle this situation and the amount of money under his control.  I will never purchase an asset that is associated with James and if I hear anyone else thinking about purchasing any of his assets, I will strongly warn them against it.  James is only hurting himself with these hissy fits.  NXT will survive; James won't.

Agree. Glad I dumped my SN recently.  Keep in mind at time the SN idea was conceived, NXT with even less features, was over 6000 sat. BTC was about $480 USD, higher than today.   NXT does not need SN, even though it would be a big plus.  Perhaps SN does not need NXT either - only needs a scapegoat.  Hard to see how BTCD, or any other emerging tech, offer 100% backward compatibility unless development is on par with BTC.  I think he has been too harsh on the devs who have been delivering a very stable and featured software.

Also this temporary dumping is a good thing. It helps this "unfair" distribution.
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« Reply #25461 on: November 09, 2015, 07:46:08 am »

If Supernet splits from NXT, it'll be Supernet that fails not NXT.

SuperNET is not going to 'split' from NXT. SuperNET will natively implement some functionality that it is currently accessing on the NXT API.

The assets and the fee, dividend and revenue stream structures remain.

Well why is James "rage selling" his NXT?

As was talked on slack, he is emotionally trying to show, that he can dump the price significantly, so this is a protest to core devs. Also consider the price of this millions, now he bids 20K NXT for BTC, no one will buy that, so for now this is just a protest.

A little hotheaded over an API change don't you think?  His blackmail attempts don't inspire a lot of confidence in him or his software.  Maybe we should just play out this game of mutually assured destruction that he's started and anybody who holds his assets should dump them.  A lot more NXTers hold his "assets" than he holds NXT.  Let's push the button and see who survives.  Hint: It won't be James or Supernet.

No, I think the truth is in remarks from both sides - core devs have made a mistake while changing API and so giving a reason to eveyone not to believe NXT at all and not to build serious corporative platforms on top of it. They should be considered like guys who have largest NXT stakes, so they are feeling technical and economical power (but saying that I am not going to hurt them, I respect their continous hardworking on the core features). And I should say, this facts could kill NXT. Like mentionally-caught parents could kill their child with infinite love.

Second side is James. He is advanced and very creative, open-mind dev of SuperNET, which could be considered like "such large corporative project on top of nxt" which is very useful and important for NXT platform. And after changing API - it fails. There is no matter, whether it is easy to fix or not (this is the argues of core devs, that the fixing is extremley simple). Now his work is failed due to risk of API changing, it will take him more work to fix the code and to put away some technical nxt dependancies.

SO. It is clear, that James is very important to our community, and thus, to a price o NXT, James will not leave SuperNET from NXT completley it is for sure, but this act of selling 20M nxt - is an act of protest and demand for core devs to mention and to respect the users of the core (cause building a systems on top of the nxt - it is also - a "using a system" of NXT). But his dumping... Don't like this to be real dump :)

So there is no need to talk about is he survives after his dump. I also think, that it is crucial for one man to rebuild the SuperNET, it is crucial for everybody - cause NXT platform and SuperNET - are losing clients and investors both. I think the way of both sides is to respect  each other and produce a synergy, not competition.

James is being too emotional and showing his immaturity.  He is costing NXT and SuperNet investors money because he is upset.  All of his investors are NXT investors also.  How is intentionally trying to suppress the price in anyone's best interest?

James is obviously too immature to handle this situation and the amount of money under his control.  I will never purchase an asset that is associated with James and if I hear anyone else thinking about purchasing any of his assets, I will strongly warn them against it.  James is only hurting himself with these hissy fits.  NXT will survive; James won't.

Saying you will "never" do something is outrageous and immature yourself. Why don't you just join the clown show? Oh, wait you just did.

If Supernet starts to deliver even 10% of its projects over the next 18 months, you'll be buying hand over fist. Will it happen? Who the hell knows. But as much as we don't need Devs acting like 4 year olds, we don't need you to either.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25462 on: November 09, 2015, 07:49:49 am »

If Supernet splits from NXT, it'll be Supernet that fails not NXT.

SuperNET is not going to 'split' from NXT. SuperNET will natively implement some functionality that it is currently accessing on the NXT API.

The assets and the fee, dividend and revenue stream structures remain.

Well why is James "rage selling" his NXT?

As was talked on slack, he is emotionally trying to show, that he can dump the price significantly, so this is a protest to core devs. Also consider the price of this millions, now he bids 20K NXT for BTC, no one will buy that, so for now this is just a protest.

A little hotheaded over an API change don't you think?  His blackmail attempts don't inspire a lot of confidence in him or his software.  Maybe we should just play out this game of mutually assured destruction that he's started and anybody who holds his assets should dump them.  A lot more NXTers hold his "assets" than he holds NXT.  Let's push the button and see who survives.  Hint: It won't be James or Supernet.

No, I think the truth is in remarks from both sides - core devs have made a mistake while changing API and so giving a reason to eveyone not to believe NXT at all and not to build serious corporative platforms on top of it. They should be considered like guys who have largest NXT stakes, so they are feeling technical and economical power (but saying that I am not going to hurt them, I respect their continous hardworking on the core features). And I should say, this facts could kill NXT. Like mentionally-caught parents could kill their child with infinite love.

Second side is James. He is advanced and very creative, open-mind dev of SuperNET, which could be considered like "such large corporative project on top of nxt" which is very useful and important for NXT platform. And after changing API - it fails. There is no matter, whether it is easy to fix or not (this is the argues of core devs, that the fixing is extremley simple). Now his work is failed due to risk of API changing, it will take him more work to fix the code and to put away some technical nxt dependancies.

SO. It is clear, that James is very important to our community, and thus, to a price o NXT, James will not leave SuperNET from NXT completley it is for sure, but this act of selling 20M nxt - is an act of protest and demand for core devs to mention and to respect the users of the core (cause building a systems on top of the nxt - it is also - a "using a system" of NXT). But his dumping... Don't like this to be real dump :)

So there is no need to talk about is he survives after his dump. I also think, that it is crucial for one man to rebuild the SuperNET, it is crucial for everybody - cause NXT platform and SuperNET - are losing clients and investors both. I think the way of both sides is to respect  each other and produce a synergy, not competition.

James is being too emotional and showing his immaturity.  He is costing NXT and SuperNet investors money because he is upset.  All of his investors are NXT investors also.  How is intentionally trying to suppress the price in anyone's best interest?

James is obviously too immature to handle this situation and the amount of money under his control.  I will never purchase an asset that is associated with James and if I hear anyone else thinking about purchasing any of his assets, I will strongly warn them against it.  James is only hurting himself with these hissy fits.  NXT will survive; James won't.

Agree. Glad I dumped my SN recently.  Keep in mind at time the SN idea was conceived, NXT with even less features, was over 6000 sat. BTC was about $480 USD, higher than today.   NXT does not need SN, even though it would be a big plus.  Perhaps SN does not need NXT either - only needs a scapegoat.  Hard to see how BTCD, or any other emerging tech, offer 100% backward compatibility unless development is on par with BTC.  I think he has been too harsh on the devs who have been delivering a very stable and featured software.

Also this temporary dumping is a good thing. It helps this "unfair" distribution.

I do not protect James. I hate his way of war with core devs - to dump the NXT by using money of his investors. He is destroying his reputation, absoluteley.

But. I've pointed, that every developer/investor/spin-offer could get on his place. Every serious platform (you may call SuperNET a joke, OK, but I mean, if we talking about other really serious fintech solution) would not ever been build if there appears sometime something like shaded changing of API. It is completeley unacceptable to do of what core devs did. And James is not apoint. He is just an example of what could be with other fintech solution.

The better, for trust, core devs should open the development, really never do that was done with fast and shaded changing of API (here I will be listening, that was not shaded, but, whaterver, it was). Cause, if they still wood be very mighty, they will have an ability to kicck off any other fintech, like SuperNET. It's not good for NXT platform at all. The most strongest side of any crypto - is decentralization, not features.

So like members of comminity we have to fight, not for James or his SuperNET, but for decentralization and our rights. It would be perfect to have a few other teams, which would work on alternative clients. This is really reasonble for platform.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25463 on: November 09, 2015, 07:52:04 am »

James is being too emotional and showing his immaturity.  He is costing NXT and SuperNet investors money because he is upset.  All of his investors are NXT investors also.  How is intentionally trying to suppress the price in anyone's best interest?

James is obviously too immature to handle this situation and the amount of money under his control.  I will never purchase an asset that is associated with James and if I hear anyone else thinking about purchasing any of his assets, I will strongly warn them against it.  James is only hurting himself with these hissy fits.  NXT will survive; James won't.

This is an absolute travesty coming from 2Kool4Skewl! James is exhausted from two years of constant effort, and he doesn't deserve to be called immature by the likes of you. What gives you the right to call anyone in crypto forums immature?  You've made yourself a humor troll, stick with the memes bro!

People are tired and stressed and that effects their decision making, but it's not fair to call anyone immature.

No matter what side you're on we should all show respect to Jean-Luc and jl777.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25464 on: November 09, 2015, 08:17:31 am »

Just to remind everyone, the entire story of the 1.6.2 issue can be found here:
https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-6-2/msg199422/#msg199422
I strongly suggest reading the Slack transcript, or at least the last 20 pages, to see exactly why the API changes were implemented, and why some users did not pick up on the changes until after the upgrade from 1.5.15.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25465 on: November 09, 2015, 08:32:48 am »

Just to remind everyone, the entire story of the 1.6.2 issue can be found here:
https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-6-2/msg199422/#msg199422
I strongly suggest reading the Slack transcript, or at least the last 20 pages, to see exactly why the API changes were implemented, and why some users did not pick up on the changes until after the upgrade from 1.5.15.

My advice too. Was a interesting read and I learned a lot about API's, software development and the reasons behind choices which were made.

So keep calm and read a book. ;)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25466 on: November 09, 2015, 08:36:46 am »

Guys,

I understood that in bitshare it is possible to trade Asset to Assets.

This is very interesting and I may transfer some of my assets to bitshare.

Any feedback appreciated.

I asked several times this option from NXT Community but seems that big players don't like it!

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19806

Hi sepehr,

I too think that this feature would be very usefull.

For NxtForex, we would like to be able to change directly NXTEUR into NXTCHF, or NXTEUR into NXTUSD (and vice-versa).

This means we could use directly the rates of the market (NXT rate would just disappear, this would make NXTEUR totally independant from the wild NXT gyrations that occurs currently !  For the moment, one NXT would still be used to pay for the transaction fee.

Of course, the perfect way would be to pay the transaction fee also using also a small portion of the asset that is being sold (but this is another story, ONE STEP AT A TIME).

A big +
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25467 on: November 09, 2015, 08:44:31 am »

Just to remind everyone, the entire story of the 1.6.2 issue can be found here:
https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-6-2/msg199422/#msg199422
I strongly suggest reading the Slack transcript, or at least the last 20 pages, to see exactly why the API changes were implemented, and why some users did not pick up on the changes until after the upgrade from 1.5.15.

My advice too. Was a interesting read and I learned a lot about API's, software development and the reasons behind choices which were made.

So keep calm and read a book. ;)

I learned this too: Jean-Luc is like the captain of the Enterprise and has the last word on decisions. This is ok in a military organization but is it sustainable in a community who likes to says itself "decentralized" ?

N.B.: JL makes an amazing work (the transcription attests this),. BUT the question of the leadership and decision making procedure is clearly an issue (probably same issue in SN when we see how James's state of mind induces such a mess)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25468 on: November 09, 2015, 08:47:13 am »

I learned this too: Jean-Luc is like the captain of the Enterprise and has the last word on decisions. This is ok in a military organization but is it sustainable in a community who likes to says itself "decentralized" ?
Yes, it is sustainable. In fact it's quite common practice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevolent_dictator_for_life

It's still possible to fire the dictator by forking the project. However, having a very skilled person on top is not a bad thing.
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« Reply #25469 on: November 09, 2015, 08:51:53 am »

James is being too emotional and showing his immaturity.  He is costing NXT and SuperNet investors money because he is upset.  All of his investors are NXT investors also.  How is intentionally trying to suppress the price in anyone's best interest?

James is obviously too immature to handle this situation and the amount of money under his control.  I will never purchase an asset that is associated with James and if I hear anyone else thinking about purchasing any of his assets, I will strongly warn them against it.  James is only hurting himself with these hissy fits.  NXT will survive; James won't.

This is an absolute travesty coming from 2Kool4Skewl! James is exhausted from two years of constant effort, and he doesn't deserve to be called immature by the likes of you. What gives you the right to call anyone in crypto forums immature?  You've made yourself a humor troll, stick with the memes bro!

People are tired and stressed and that effects their decision making, but it's not fair to call anyone immature.

No matter what side you're on we should all show respect to Jean-Luc and jl777.

James is blackmailing NXT, dumping just to stamp his feet, and for what?  He could have fixed the problem. 

The truth is that James has been taking money from people for well over 1.5 years and delivered $#!+ all.  He makes asset after asset and promises people that if they buy, they will be rich, that his projects will have big returns.  In reality he acts like a little kid when it comes to an API code, blackmails people and dumps the price of NXT.  Does JL take lots of money from people making big promises to them?  No, he just codes solid code that actually works.  The differences between JL and James are night and day.  One deserves respect, and the other not.
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« Reply #25470 on: November 09, 2015, 08:55:45 am »

I learned this too: Jean-Luc is like the captain of the Enterprise and has the last word on decisions. This is ok in a military organization but is it sustainable in a community who likes to says itself "decentralized" ?
Yes, it is sustainable. In fact it's quite common practice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevolent_dictator_for_life

It's still possible to fire the dictator by forking the project. However, having a very skilled person on top is not a bad thing.

good point :D
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« Reply #25471 on: November 09, 2015, 08:57:17 am »

James is being too emotional and showing his immaturity.  He is costing NXT and SuperNet investors money because he is upset.  All of his investors are NXT investors also.  How is intentionally trying to suppress the price in anyone's best interest?

James is obviously too immature to handle this situation and the amount of money under his control.  I will never purchase an asset that is associated with James and if I hear anyone else thinking about purchasing any of his assets, I will strongly warn them against it.  James is only hurting himself with these hissy fits.  NXT will survive; James won't.

This is an absolute travesty coming from 2Kool4Skewl! James is exhausted from two years of constant effort, and he doesn't deserve to be called immature by the likes of you. What gives you the right to call anyone in crypto forums immature?  You've made yourself a humor troll, stick with the memes bro!

People are tired and stressed and that effects their decision making, but it's not fair to call anyone immature.

No matter what side you're on we should all show respect to Jean-Luc and jl777.

James is blackmailing NXT, dumping just to stamp his feet, and for what?  He could have fixed the problem. 

The truth is that James has been taking money from people for well over 1.5 years and delivered $#!+ all.  He makes asset after asset and promises people that if they buy, they will be rich, that his projects will have big returns.  In reality he acts like a little kid when it comes to an API code, blackmails people and dumps the price of NXT.  Does JL take lots of money from people making big promises to them?  No, he just codes solid code that actually works.  The differences between JL and James are night and day.  One deserves respect, and the other not.

No! This is a quote from slack, that I 100% agreed:

arkh [10:42 AM]:
the problem is about breaking 3rd party software without warning and by not following basic development guidelines
so stop saying james is dictating what to do to the dev team
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« Reply #25472 on: November 09, 2015, 08:57:32 am »

Guys,

I understood that in bitshare it is possible to trade Asset to Assets.

This is very interesting and I may transfer some of my assets to bitshare.

Any feedback appreciated.

I asked several times this option from NXT Community but seems that big players don't like it!

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19806



Sepehr- I strongly warn you against Bitshares. Consider this:




https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17354.0.html

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« Reply #25473 on: November 09, 2015, 09:00:02 am »

Here is the transcript of the Slack conversation on this issue. Read it carefully..... ;D

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4OEA-peIYHXd3JOTUY4VndQLW8/view?usp=sharing

It's only 58 pages.

1. If you believe in Nxt, reading this is a must... Thanks for this transparency...
2. We do not have to choose between jl777 and JL... and calling names is not solving the problem...
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« Reply #25474 on: November 09, 2015, 09:00:40 am »

I learned this too: Jean-Luc is like the captain of the Enterprise and has the last word on decisions. This is ok in a military organization but is it sustainable in a community who likes to says itself "decentralized" ?
Yes, it is sustainable. In fact it's quite common practice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevolent_dictator_for_life

It's still possible to fire the dictator by forking the project. However, having a very skilled person on top is not a bad thing.

good point :D

+1. Yes, this is what reality dictates to us. BDFL - is not so much bad, even could be good. But, strong step to decentralized future is to have a few teams, which are supporting forked alternative clients, so BFDL - is not bad, but not to have a dictator at all - is better.
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« Reply #25475 on: November 09, 2015, 09:01:45 am »


James is blackmailing NXT, dumping just to stamp his feet, and for what?  He could have fixed the problem. 

The truth is that James has been taking money from people for well over 1.5 years and delivered $#!+ all.  He makes asset after asset and promises people that if they buy, they will be rich, that his projects will have big returns.  In reality he acts like a little kid when it comes to an API code, blackmails people and dumps the price of NXT.  Does JL take lots of money from people making big promises to them?  No, he just codes solid code that actually works.  The differences between JL and James are night and day.  One deserves respect, and the other not.

Could you please elaborate a bit on the 'blackmailing' part?
 

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25476 on: November 09, 2015, 09:03:50 am »

Could all parties please act like grown ups and come to some sort of compromise? All NXT and SuperNet holders stand to lose from this kind of infighting. No-one wins here.

In general, it is hard to reach a compromise when any party takes an absolute stance. So I would suggest all parties consider their position.

Why is jl777 silent in all of this? His actions seem to indicate that there is more to this than just the fact that API compability was broken. So I would hope that he fully explains his position. This seems to be some kind of power struggle over who controls the direction of NXT development.

2Kool4Skewl is a textbook example of what is traditionally known as a "troll", so I am sure his opinions can be given appropriate worth.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25477 on: November 09, 2015, 09:04:54 am »

Guys,

I understood that in bitshare it is possible to trade Asset to Assets.

This is very interesting and I may transfer some of my assets to bitshare.

Any feedback appreciated.

I asked several times this option from NXT Community but seems that big players don't like it!

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19806

Hi sepehr,

I too think that this feature would be very usefull.

For NxtForex, we would like to be able to change directly NXTEUR into NXTCHF, or NXTEUR into NXTUSD (and vice-versa).

This means we could use directly the rates of the market (NXT rate would just disappear, this would make NXTEUR totally independant from the wild NXT gyrations that occurs currently !  For the moment, one NXT would still be used to pay for the transaction fee.

Of course, the perfect way would be to pay the transaction fee also using also a small portion of the asset that is being sold (but this is another story, ONE STEP AT A TIME).

A big +

If this option which is I think very easy to be add in the core added I think a lot of attention will attracted again to NXT.

I agree a lot with you.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25478 on: November 09, 2015, 09:16:34 am »

And concerning price speculation, do some of you believe that we can regain the 10th position on CMC before or after reaching the 12th ?

Just for fun... ;D ;D ;D

Whatever, Nxt remains a great and beautifull tool !
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25479 on: November 09, 2015, 09:17:03 am »

Guys,

I understood that in bitshare it is possible to trade Asset to Assets.

This is very interesting and I may transfer some of my assets to bitshare.

Any feedback appreciated.

I asked several times this option from NXT Community but seems that big players don't like it!

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19806



Sepehr- I strongly warn you against Bitshares. Consider this:




https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17354.0.html

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What are Brownie Points Good for?

Technically all Brownie Points mean is that you are on my good side.  Brownie Points are not redeemable for anything and do not create any obligations between me and anyone else.   BROWNIE.PTS is a tool that allows me to keep track of everyone who is in my good favor and to what extent.   You will want to make sure you claim your BROWNIE.PTS because it would just be rude to refuse the BROWNIE.PTS and one day you may regret it; Karma can be a Bitch.       

No Obligations

BROWNIE.PTS is merely a tool for my own use and I may choose to stop issuing brownie points at any time for any reason.   I may reward them (or not) as I see fit, in the amounts I see fit, for the reasons I see fit.   I may also seize brownie points from any account if you fall out of favor and anyone who complains in any way about how Brownie Points are issued or how I use Brownie Points is certainly not in my favor and may lose any Brownie Points they have earned.   



And this:


https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19042.msg244950.html#msg244950

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I did not contact that particular exchange individually. 

We gave the whole world NOTICE 30 days in advance and made posts on the proper threads where all upgrade announcements are posted.

[translation:]
 How ​dare​ those impertinent imbeciles not​ follow our most generously timed proclamations!!

NO BROWNIE POINTS!!!


Meaning that Bitshares is nothing but an inherently flawed corporate token that is peddled by a bunch of really arrogant elitists.

In the Bitschares design, there are delegates, and there are lesser participants.

Which begs the question: Who are these anointed ones? And who anoints them?

Thanks LocoMB,

I really need your feedback, But let me know some questions:

1-Who is this Bytemaster that you referenced him? Sorry I don't know!
2-What wrong with the link you provided? I cannot understand carefully.
3-Same anointed ones also in NXT community! Bcnext Anointed them and they do what ever they wish to do! But in reality I have no problem with that! Let them do whatever they wish. What is important for one Un-anonited like me is that what services they give better and more. And they have some services better and more than NXT, so personally I may wish to give a it a try!

Let me know if you find me in wrong way.

Thanks,
Sepehr
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