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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25440 on: November 08, 2015, 09:28:17 pm »

If I get out of this alive, I might write a book. Got enough material..... ;D
Your GF might kill you for staying in front of a computer for too long. Other than that I don't think you are at risk.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25441 on: November 08, 2015, 11:33:44 pm »

wow. i forgot about nxt. i still have a few coins. i been out of the game for the past 8 months or so. can someone summarize the last 8 months of activity? what have you seen and where do you see nxt in 2016?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25442 on: November 09, 2015, 12:05:38 am »

wow. i forgot about nxt. i still have a few coins. i been out of the game for the past 8 months or so. can someone summarize the last 8 months of activity? what have you seen and where do you see nxt in 2016?

summarize the last 8 months.....?


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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25443 on: November 09, 2015, 12:26:03 am »

wow. i forgot about nxt. i still have a few coins. i been out of the game for the past 8 months or so. can someone summarize the last 8 months of activity? what have you seen and where do you see nxt in 2016?

Especially in these days and minutes is very hard to say, where we can see NXT in 2016, I assume. I'm really curious, what about partnership between NXT and SuperNet, what does it mean the dump of 5 (or 20) million NXT coins now, if it is related with the price fall of NXT in last hours (probably it is, at least partially), etc ...
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25444 on: November 09, 2015, 01:11:31 am »

The reason for BTC price up. :)
Two russians' company in China got illegal profit 2B in stock market,and want to exchange for BTC to transfer to oversea.
http://wallstreetcn.com/node/225794

Is it a serious info ? I don't read Chinese.
Yes,serious.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25445 on: November 09, 2015, 03:21:53 am »

Who is in charge to change news,the suggest update in the forum front page is still 1.5.15.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25446 on: November 09, 2015, 03:25:40 am »

Seems investors lost confidence in NXT with the action of devs.   :(
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25447 on: November 09, 2015, 03:58:20 am »

Seems investors lost confidence in NXT with the action of devs.   :(

Dev's way of doing things is core of having confidence in any software or tech company. This applies to crypto applications, as they are similar.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25448 on: November 09, 2015, 04:10:27 am »

I crack open a 40 for my homies.

Godspeed
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25449 on: November 09, 2015, 05:20:23 am »

If Supernet splits from NXT, it'll be Supernet that fails not NXT.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25450 on: November 09, 2015, 06:00:40 am »

If Supernet splits from NXT, it'll be Supernet that fails not NXT.

SuperNET is not going to 'split' from NXT. SuperNET will natively implement some functionality that it is currently accessing on the NXT API.

The assets and the fee, dividend and revenue stream structures remain.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25451 on: November 09, 2015, 06:04:58 am »

If Supernet splits from NXT, it'll be Supernet that fails not NXT.

SuperNET is not going to 'split' from NXT. SuperNET will natively implement some functionality that it is currently accessing on the NXT API.

The assets and the fee, dividend and revenue stream structures remain.

Well why is James "rage selling" his NXT?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25452 on: November 09, 2015, 06:14:43 am »

If Supernet splits from NXT, it'll be Supernet that fails not NXT.

SuperNET is not going to 'split' from NXT. SuperNET will natively implement some functionality that it is currently accessing on the NXT API.

The assets and the fee, dividend and revenue stream structures remain.

Well why is James "rage selling" his NXT?

As was talked on slack, he is emotionally trying to show, that he can dump the price significantly, so this is a protest to core devs. Also consider the price of this millions, now he bids 20K NXT for BTC, no one will buy that, so for now this is just a protest.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25453 on: November 09, 2015, 06:24:46 am »

If Supernet splits from NXT, it'll be Supernet that fails not NXT.

SuperNET is not going to 'split' from NXT. SuperNET will natively implement some functionality that it is currently accessing on the NXT API.

The assets and the fee, dividend and revenue stream structures remain.

Well why is James "rage selling" his NXT?

As was talked on slack, he is emotionally trying to show, that he can dump the price significantly, so this is a protest to core devs. Also consider the price of this millions, now he bids 20K NXT for BTC, no one will buy that, so for now this is just a protest.

A little hotheaded over an API change don't you think?  His blackmail attempts don't inspire a lot of confidence in him or his software.  Maybe we should just play out this game of mutually assured destruction that he's started and anybody who holds his assets should dump them.  A lot more NXTers hold his "assets" than he holds NXT.  Let's push the button and see who survives.  Hint: It won't be James or Supernet.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25454 on: November 09, 2015, 06:44:10 am »

The reason for BTC price up. :)
Two russians' company in China got illegal profit 2B in stock market,and want to exchange for BTC to transfer to oversea.
http://wallstreetcn.com/node/225794

Is it a serious info ? I don't read Chinese.
Yes,serious.

Thanks a lot for the info allwelder! :-*
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« Reply #25455 on: November 09, 2015, 06:50:51 am »

If Supernet splits from NXT, it'll be Supernet that fails not NXT.

SuperNET is not going to 'split' from NXT. SuperNET will natively implement some functionality that it is currently accessing on the NXT API.

The assets and the fee, dividend and revenue stream structures remain.

Well why is James "rage selling" his NXT?

As was talked on slack, he is emotionally trying to show, that he can dump the price significantly, so this is a protest to core devs. Also consider the price of this millions, now he bids 20K NXT for BTC, no one will buy that, so for now this is just a protest.

A little hotheaded over an API change don't you think?  His blackmail attempts don't inspire a lot of confidence in him or his software.  Maybe we should just play out this game of mutually assured destruction that he's started and anybody who holds his assets should dump them.  A lot more NXTers hold his "assets" than he holds NXT.  Let's push the button and see who survives.  Hint: It won't be James or Supernet.

No, I think the truth is in remarks from both sides - core devs have made a mistake while changing API and so giving a reason to eveyone not to believe NXT at all and not to build serious corporative platforms on top of it. They should be considered like guys who have largest NXT stakes, so they are feeling technical and economical power (but saying that I am not going to hurt them, I respect their continous hardworking on the core features). And I should say, this facts could kill NXT. Like mentionally-caught parents could kill their child with infinite love.

Second side is James. He is advanced and very creative, open-mind dev of SuperNET, which could be considered like "such large corporative project on top of nxt" which is very useful and important for NXT platform. And after changing API - it fails. There is no matter, whether it is easy to fix or not (this is the argues of core devs, that the fixing is extremley simple). Now his work is failed due to risk of API changing, it will take him more work to fix the code and to put away some technical nxt dependancies.

SO. It is clear, that James is very important to our community, and thus, to a price o NXT, James will not leave SuperNET from NXT completley it is for sure, but this act of selling 20M nxt - is an act of protest and demand for core devs to mention and to respect the users of the core (cause building a systems on top of the nxt - it is also - a "using a system" of NXT). But his dumping... Don't like this to be real dump :)

So there is no need to talk about is he survives after his dump. I also think, that it is crucial for one man to rebuild the SuperNET, it is crucial for everybody - cause NXT platform and SuperNET - are losing clients and investors both. I think the way of both sides is to respect  each other and produce a synergy, not competition.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25456 on: November 09, 2015, 06:57:44 am »

Guys,

I understood that in bitshare it is possible to trade Asset to Assets.

This is very interesting and I may transfer some of my assets to bitshare.

Any feedback appreciated.

I asked several times this option from NXT Community but seems that big players don't like it!

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19806

« Last Edit: November 09, 2015, 07:02:03 am by sepehr »
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25457 on: November 09, 2015, 07:11:34 am »

@XIII,

read the full conversation that EvilDave posted. NXT devs admitted their communication could have been better and they are taking steps to improve it in the future. The API changes themselves are very small but necessary to move on to the next fork in January. James is acting like a prima donna rather than spend a couple of hours to copy-paste the new API call parameter into his code and be done with it. His acting is based on absolutely nothing, has he delivered any working product to date? NXT devs constantly deliver, James on the other hand, not so much. What are his coding achievements? Don't tell me 100k lines of C code. You can experience JeanLuc's coding achievements every day, James' - not so much. He made too many promises he can't keep. Now this bullying tactics and trying to leverage his investors to influence NXT devs to go his way absolutely proves to me he is going to bail. Supernet won't happen with or without NXT, mark my words.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25458 on: November 09, 2015, 07:13:46 am »

If Supernet splits from NXT, it'll be Supernet that fails not NXT.

SuperNET is not going to 'split' from NXT. SuperNET will natively implement some functionality that it is currently accessing on the NXT API.

The assets and the fee, dividend and revenue stream structures remain.

Well why is James "rage selling" his NXT?

As was talked on slack, he is emotionally trying to show, that he can dump the price significantly, so this is a protest to core devs. Also consider the price of this millions, now he bids 20K NXT for BTC, no one will buy that, so for now this is just a protest.

A little hotheaded over an API change don't you think?  His blackmail attempts don't inspire a lot of confidence in him or his software.  Maybe we should just play out this game of mutually assured destruction that he's started and anybody who holds his assets should dump them.  A lot more NXTers hold his "assets" than he holds NXT.  Let's push the button and see who survives.  Hint: It won't be James or Supernet.

No, I think the truth is in remarks from both sides - core devs have made a mistake while changing API and so giving a reason to eveyone not to believe NXT at all and not to build serious corporative platforms on top of it. They should be considered like guys who have largest NXT stakes, so they are feeling technical and economical power (but saying that I am not going to hurt them, I respect their continous hardworking on the core features). And I should say, this facts could kill NXT. Like mentionally-caught parents could kill their child with infinite love.

Second side is James. He is advanced and very creative, open-mind dev of SuperNET, which could be considered like "such large corporative project on top of nxt" which is very useful and important for NXT platform. And after changing API - it fails. There is no matter, whether it is easy to fix or not (this is the argues of core devs, that the fixing is extremley simple). Now his work is failed due to risk of API changing, it will take him more work to fix the code and to put away some technical nxt dependancies.

SO. It is clear, that James is very important to our community, and thus, to a price o NXT, James will not leave SuperNET from NXT completley it is for sure, but this act of selling 20M nxt - is an act of protest and demand for core devs to mention and to respect the users of the core (cause building a systems on top of the nxt - it is also - a "using a system" of NXT). But his dumping... Don't like this to be real dump :)

So there is no need to talk about is he survives after his dump. I also think, that it is crucial for one man to rebuild the SuperNET, it is crucial for everybody - cause NXT platform and SuperNET - are losing clients and investors both. I think the way of both sides is to respect  each other and produce a synergy, not competition.

James is being too emotional and showing his immaturity.  He is costing NXT and SuperNet investors money because he is upset.  All of his investors are NXT investors also.  How is intentionally trying to suppress the price in anyone's best interest?

James is obviously too immature to handle this situation and the amount of money under his control.  I will never purchase an asset that is associated with James and if I hear anyone else thinking about purchasing any of his assets, I will strongly warn them against it.  James is only hurting himself with these hissy fits.  NXT will survive; James won't.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25459 on: November 09, 2015, 07:15:58 am »

Guys,

I understood that in bitshare it is possible to trade Asset to Assets.

This is very interesting and I may transfer some of my assets to bitshare.

Any feedback appreciated.

I asked several times this option from NXT Community but seems that big players don't like it!

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19806

Sure, go join the commies.  Nobody is going to use your Iranian crypto exchange anyway.
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