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Jean-Luc

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25020 on: October 11, 2015, 04:35:57 pm »

No, this will not be in the core.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25021 on: October 11, 2015, 04:38:54 pm »

No, this will not be in the core.

Thanks JL, I can do some update.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25022 on: October 11, 2015, 04:40:06 pm »

No, this will not be in the core.
Why not? This is brilliant! And seems not a big deal!
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25023 on: October 11, 2015, 04:51:39 pm »

Hello all, my first message in NXT forum. I believe, some of you may know me from BCT.

Looking at the developments and ready NXT ecosystem, NXT is quite cheap now.
I see a few reasons why the NXT price is moving downwards...
1) The interest in NXT is lessened, coz active marketing has gone quite low, and people forgetting about it.
2) Other few high volume coins are taking the whole attention, you know what I mean if you check Polo top 2 volume coins.
3) Need a new strategy for NXT, not anything used before.
4) I also suggest making a professional next-next-next-windows-style-installation for NXT. I know there is one, but does not work for 32 bit, and during the installation, the forms do not look good and professional.
5) When log on to the NXT, the passphrase scares the non-tech investors. I think we should really improve that part for grandma use. We have to really make this part very easy but also secure, preventing hijacking into accounts with bruteforce etc... Not sure how.

Best,

Welcome and thanks for reminding us of these issues.
Can you explain why they apply to NXT that would scare non-tech investors?
I don't see the much difference with other cryptos.

Yes, actually similar to other coins. But since it is unique to nxt and people may not be familiar for such login screens.
Not common as other accounts. Also other thing is that NXT must be different, I think having a similar thing with any other coin is not good in the first place, aint it ? :)

I guess Yassins's answer above clarified that there are some works in the place. Thanks all.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25024 on: October 11, 2015, 07:42:37 pm »

Shop till you drop for all items on the Digital Goods Store through Lompsa 0.4.9 (used to be mofowallet).

https://nxtforum.org/mofowallet-the-alternative-client/lompsa-0-4-9-released-(used-to-be-mofowallet)/

Or use it online: https://www.mofowallet.com/launch.html#/goods/nxt/listing
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25025 on: October 11, 2015, 07:47:30 pm »

Shop till you drop for all items on the Digital Goods Store through Lompsa 0.4.9 (used to be mofowallet).

https://nxtforum.org/mofowallet-the-alternative-client/lompsa-0-4-9-released-(used-to-be-mofowallet)/

Or use it online: https://www.mofowallet.com/launch.html#/goods/nxt/listing
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25026 on: October 12, 2015, 06:20:54 pm »

Well, the ideal is to fundraise in BTC/fiat, trade against BTC/fiat, and pay out in NXT :) Suck in the money from everywhere else.

Wouldn't it be possible to code a more flexible decentralized asset exchoange in the future? It's an open platform, so anyone could create a competitor to the secure asset exchange.

A NXT asset is nothing more than a ledger on the blockchain that records ownership of units of that Asset. The Asset can be valued against anything you want. Sure, in the AE it can only be traded against NXT. (wasn't there work on Asset to Asset trading?)

There are several assets that I know of off hand that automatically equate to some other value. The BTC bankroll for tothemoon is essentially equivalent to BTC. The USDBitFinex asset is equivalent to USD$. All the supernet (mgw) assets as backed with coins on another block chain.

To say that NXT is "tied up" in Assets is a fundamental misunderstanding of how equity shares work. There is no reason I can't sell a NXT asset for Gold or Silver or Matchsticks. Granted, this isn't natively directly supported on the NXT AE it is certainly doable especially using superNet. (Pegged assets has been talked about quite a lot by Mr. 777.)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25027 on: October 13, 2015, 07:36:06 am »

Proposal for New CoinexV2.0 Asset solving some complains about Current Coinex Asset.

"This way users that complaining that Coinex asset is big also can join. Also some confusing about Coinex will be solved. it's officially pegged to CNY."

https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/(ann)-(coinex)-coinex-ir-exchange-fund-raising/msg196476/#msg196476
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25028 on: October 13, 2015, 08:13:04 am »

Who is admin of nxtforum.org ? Thank you.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25029 on: October 13, 2015, 08:32:00 am »

Well, the ideal is to fundraise in BTC/fiat, trade against BTC/fiat, and pay out in NXT :) Suck in the money from everywhere else.

Wouldn't it be possible to code a more flexible decentralized asset exchoange in the future? It's an open platform, so anyone could create a competitor to the secure asset exchange.

A NXT asset is nothing more than a ledger on the blockchain that records ownership of units of that Asset. The Asset can be valued against anything you want. Sure, in the AE it can only be traded against NXT. (wasn't there work on Asset to Asset trading?)

There are several assets that I know of off hand that automatically equate to some other value. The BTC bankroll for tothemoon is essentially equivalent to BTC. The USDBitFinex asset is equivalent to USD$. All the supernet (mgw) assets as backed with coins on another block chain.

To say that NXT is "tied up" in Assets is a fundamental misunderstanding of how equity shares work. There is no reason I can't sell a NXT asset for Gold or Silver or Matchsticks. Granted, this isn't natively directly supported on the NXT AE it is certainly doable especially using superNet. (Pegged assets has been talked about quite a lot by Mr. 777.)

Just to be clear, I don't mean that NXT is 'tied up' in the assets themselves. It's tied up in the orderbook (specifically the bid side). The answer, as you've said, is to trade assets against something else. Numerous assets already trade against BTC on Polo. It's a great solution, as is enabling asset-to-asset trades using InstantDEX or similar.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25030 on: October 13, 2015, 08:41:50 am »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25031 on: October 13, 2015, 09:26:00 am »

Is there any (trusted) NXT Assets pegged with CNY?
So that anybody can deposit CNY from Chinese Bank accounts and receive related NXT Assets?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25032 on: October 13, 2015, 09:51:07 am »

Who is admin of nxtforum.org ? Thank you.

VanBreuk and I.  :)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25033 on: October 13, 2015, 10:58:51 am »

Is there any (trusted) NXT Assets pegged with CNY?
So that anybody can deposit CNY from Chinese Bank accounts and receive related NXT Assets?
Not sure about the peg or their trustworthness, but I found 3 assets (look up the details before using them):

digiCNY - 2818041024250603213
This asset is an another digital form of the CNY. It's covered by a diversified bank account net. See for more the divexchange alias.

DotpayCNY - 8421424071013119320
DotpayCNY is an asset that tied to CNY, one DotpayCNY equals one CNY, it will make NXT/CNY exchange possible in NXT asset exchange, it also help the value transfer in CNY in NXT network and among NXT network,ripple and fiat system. In and out asset exchange operation is carried out at dotpay.co. More info please see https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-general/dotpaycny/

ChinaCNY - 3331546410849496495
ChinaCNY is the asset of NxtChina Gateway issued by NxtChina(nxtchina.org).Each 1 ChinaCNY asset equals 1 CNY,and can be in-and out-exchanged at NxtChina Gateway: http://nxtchina.org/gateway
ChinaCNY asset aims to directly create NXT/CNY market on Nxt asset exchange system.
The objective of NxtChina Gateway is to provide safe,convenient and fast deposit and withdraw service.
NxtChina Gateway: http://nxtchina.org/gateway

Also, someone have created the CNY MS currency.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25034 on: October 13, 2015, 11:06:11 am »

Is there any (trusted) NXT Assets pegged with CNY?
So that anybody can deposit CNY from Chinese Bank accounts and receive related NXT Assets?
Not sure about the peg or their trustworthness, but I found 3 assets (look up the details before using them):

digiCNY - 2818041024250603213
This asset is an another digital form of the CNY. It's covered by a diversified bank account net. See for more the divexchange alias.

DotpayCNY - 8421424071013119320
DotpayCNY is an asset that tied to CNY, one DotpayCNY equals one CNY, it will make NXT/CNY exchange possible in NXT asset exchange, it also help the value transfer in CNY in NXT network and among NXT network,ripple and fiat system. In and out asset exchange operation is carried out at dotpay.co. More info please see https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-general/dotpaycny/

ChinaCNY - 3331546410849496495
ChinaCNY is the asset of NxtChina Gateway issued by NxtChina(nxtchina.org).Each 1 ChinaCNY asset equals 1 CNY,and can be in-and out-exchanged at NxtChina Gateway: http://nxtchina.org/gateway
ChinaCNY asset aims to directly create NXT/CNY market on Nxt asset exchange system.
The objective of NxtChina Gateway is to provide safe,convenient and fast deposit and withdraw service.
NxtChina Gateway: http://nxtchina.org/gateway

Also, someone have created the CNY MS currency.

Brilliant Answer! Thank you! :D

And unfortunately non of them is working now! :( :o
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25035 on: October 13, 2015, 11:42:21 am »


And unfortunately non of them is working now! :( :o

Guys! I'm very frustrated to see there exist no active CNY pegged Asset in NXT yet! :-\
There exist one in Bitshares and seems pretty active:

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/bitcny/
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25036 on: October 13, 2015, 11:45:30 am »


And unfortunately non of them is working now! :( :o

Guys! I'm very frustrated to see there exist no active CNY pegged Asset in NXT yet! :-\
There exist one in Bitshares and seems pretty active:

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/bitcny/
SuperNET folks are working on peggy, which will be functionally equivalent to BitXXX and NuBits.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25037 on: October 13, 2015, 12:16:17 pm »


And unfortunately non of them is working now! :( :o

Guys! I'm very frustrated to see there exist no active CNY pegged Asset in NXT yet! :-\
There exist one in Bitshares and seems pretty active:

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/bitcny/

I'd be a little cautious comparing with BitShares. Last I checked it was impossible to buy their BitUSD for $1, which kind of defeats the point. 
Might be worth asking coinomat to take a look at this, since he already runs CoinoUSD. Ultimately SuperNET should provide a fully decentralised alternative, but available volumes will grow with use over time so it won't be ready for a while.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25038 on: October 13, 2015, 12:34:43 pm »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #25039 on: October 13, 2015, 03:41:21 pm »

Is there any (trusted) NXT Assets pegged with CNY?
So that anybody can deposit CNY from Chinese Bank accounts and receive related NXT Assets?
Not sure about the peg or their trustworthness, but I found 3 assets (look up the details before using them):

digiCNY - 2818041024250603213
This asset is an another digital form of the CNY. It's covered by a diversified bank account net. See for more the divexchange alias.

DotpayCNY - 8421424071013119320
DotpayCNY is an asset that tied to CNY, one DotpayCNY equals one CNY, it will make NXT/CNY exchange possible in NXT asset exchange, it also help the value transfer in CNY in NXT network and among NXT network,ripple and fiat system. In and out asset exchange operation is carried out at dotpay.co. More info please see https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-general/dotpaycny/

ChinaCNY - 3331546410849496495
ChinaCNY is the asset of NxtChina Gateway issued by NxtChina(nxtchina.org).Each 1 ChinaCNY asset equals 1 CNY,and can be in-and out-exchanged at NxtChina Gateway: http://nxtchina.org/gateway
ChinaCNY asset aims to directly create NXT/CNY market on Nxt asset exchange system.
The objective of NxtChina Gateway is to provide safe,convenient and fast deposit and withdraw service.
NxtChina Gateway: http://nxtchina.org/gateway

Also, someone have created the CNY MS currency.

It's amazing to me that with stuff like this people don't realize that with the AE and MS systems NXT can do the same things that Ripple can do. The only difference is there aren't any "trusted gateways" type implementation.

But a NXT Asset or MS could represent any type of real or digital good, and your ownership of the asset indicates owner ship of the good. Of course, currently this is limited to commodities. It would be nice if there was some way to have a NXT system that ties an Asset or "something" to a physical good, like a specific Gold Coin, that could be warehoused somewhere and just traded on the AE. 
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