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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23620 on: July 06, 2015, 08:06:42 pm »

The more I learn about this stuff, the more I think it's fully unpredictable. Kinda like the toTheMoon-game - it's easy to fool yourself and think you can guess the next number. But explanations about Bitcoin price only ever come afterwards. Why Bitcoin fell for such a long time although all the fundamentals got sooo much better than two years ago, is still unexplained in my opinion.
Same for LTC and the rest. I.e. what was that freak rise in NXT and other 2.0 cryptos some weeks ago? Any explanation would lead one to think it should have happened again.
China is the next thing that's on the brink of madness. The government just pumped money in the stock market to prevent it from falling further. The mass media didn't seem to catch up to it yet - but this is way bigger than Greece. Who knows what that will lead to. I can only hope that the tech and community advantage of NXT plays out in the long term.
what search engine was first?
which one dominated
how much marketing/advertising did the winner do before it became the winner?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23621 on: July 06, 2015, 08:47:40 pm »

In general I see a lot of interest in many coins but not in Nxt. I keep repeating myself about the marketing but it seems Its just wasted air.
PPC and LTC have no marketing. It's irrelevant now. Being in the CMC-top is enough to get crypto-insiders to look at it.

I can only hope that the tech and community advantage of NXT plays out in the long term.
Price will follow value :)
« Last Edit: July 06, 2015, 08:49:59 pm by Peter2516 »
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23622 on: July 06, 2015, 10:14:11 pm »

In general I see a lot of interest in many coins but not in Nxt. I keep repeating myself about the marketing but it seems Its just wasted air.
PPC and LTC have no marketing. It's irrelevant now. Being in the CMC-top is enough to get crypto-insiders to look at it.

I can only hope that the tech and community advantage of NXT plays out in the long term.
Price will follow value :)
I just realized when many people talk about "marketing", they mean that the price isnt going up.
now that NXT is doing 10x the volumes it used to, the trolls can only complain that there is no marketing because NXT isnt pumped 50% for no reason

Actually the fact that NXT is stable during most all markets and immune to pumping due to its wide distribution is not such a bad thing. So we miss out on the 50% pumps, but we also miss out on the following dumps

People complain of crypto volatility, but NXT is pretty stable and now with quite a bit of volume. why not to complain that NXT will be deaded in 100,000 years?

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23623 on: July 06, 2015, 11:34:09 pm »

Would somebody kindly remind me, what is the fast way of updating one's nxt client. I mean the one that does not require reloading the entire blockchain.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23624 on: July 06, 2015, 11:35:17 pm »

Would somebody kindly remind me, what is the fast way of updating one's nxt client. I mean the one that does not require reloading the entire blockchain.

Download blockchain from peerexplorer.com
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23625 on: July 06, 2015, 11:57:15 pm »

Would somebody kindly remind me, what is the fast way of updating one's nxt client. I mean the one that does not require reloading the entire blockchain.

If you already have the blockchain downloaded just delete everything except the nxt_db folder. Copy the new version in and run it. It will use the existing data.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23626 on: July 07, 2015, 01:54:25 am »

O, thanks, Pilot. That did the trick!

Would somebody kindly remind me, what is the fast way of updating one's nxt client. I mean the one that does not require reloading the entire blockchain.

If you already have the blockchain downloaded just delete everything except the nxt_db folder. Copy the new version in and run it. It will use the existing data.

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23627 on: July 07, 2015, 02:08:45 am »

I'm just placing this here so you know there are possibilities.

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23628 on: July 07, 2015, 02:38:23 am »

The more I learn about this stuff, the more I think it's fully unpredictable. Kinda like the toTheMoon-game - it's easy to fool yourself and think you can guess the next number. But explanations about Bitcoin price only ever come afterwards. Why Bitcoin fell for such a long time although all the fundamentals got sooo much better than two years ago, is still unexplained in my opinion.
Same for LTC and the rest. I.e. what was that freak rise in NXT and other 2.0 cryptos some weeks ago? Any explanation would lead one to think it should have happened again.
China is the next thing that's on the brink of madness. The government just pumped money in the stock market to prevent it from falling further. The mass media didn't seem to catch up to it yet - but this is way bigger than Greece. Who knows what that will lead to. I can only hope that the tech and community advantage of NXT plays out in the long term.
what search engine was first?
which one dominated
how much marketing/advertising did the winner do before it became the winner?

You make an interesting point that Google was a private company until 2004.

Google had something better than marketing... they had word-of-mouth...
Because their search engine was clearly the BEST and FREE... people told their family and friends.

Now if you want to make a parallel argument for NXT...
NXT must give away something useful that's BEST and FREE.

Since NXT is not a general consumer product...
You have to target the right audience = "privacy" enthusiasts, file-sharing, VPN community = maybe 50,000,000 people...
That's the number of daily visitors Pirate Bay and similar sites were pulling in 2013.

What valuable thing could NXT give for FREE to this demographic?

Answer:  anon VPN

If downloading the NXT client gave you instant, one-click, anon-VPN-for-dummies...
With none of the current hassles with complexity, payment, logging, shadiness, DNS leaking, etc...
NXT would spread rapidly by word-of-mouth among those 50,000,000 people that matter  :D :D :D

With 1000s of downloads/day for the BEST and FREE consumer product...
The use of the rest of NXT platform (currency, assets, etc) would grow rapidly... and explode in value.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23629 on: July 07, 2015, 02:49:31 am »

The more I learn about this stuff, the more I think it's fully unpredictable. Kinda like the toTheMoon-game - it's easy to fool yourself and think you can guess the next number. But explanations about Bitcoin price only ever come afterwards. Why Bitcoin fell for such a long time although all the fundamentals got sooo much better than two years ago, is still unexplained in my opinion.
Same for LTC and the rest. I.e. what was that freak rise in NXT and other 2.0 cryptos some weeks ago? Any explanation would lead one to think it should have happened again.
China is the next thing that's on the brink of madness. The government just pumped money in the stock market to prevent it from falling further. The mass media didn't seem to catch up to it yet - but this is way bigger than Greece. Who knows what that will lead to. I can only hope that the tech and community advantage of NXT plays out in the long term.
what search engine was first?
which one dominated
how much marketing/advertising did the winner do before it became the winner?

You make an interesting point that Google was a private company until 2004.

Google had something better than marketing... they had word-of-mouth...
Because their search engine was clearly the BEST and FREE... people told their family and friends.

Now if you want to make a parallel argument for NXT...
NXT must give away something useful that's BEST and FREE.

Since NXT is not a general consumer product...
You have to target the right audience = "privacy" enthusiasts, file-sharing, VPN community = maybe 50,000,000 people...
That's the number of daily visitors Pirate Bay and similar sites were pulling in 2013.

What valuable thing could NXT give for FREE to this demographic?

Answer:  anon VPN

If downloading the NXT client gave you instant, one-click, anon-VPN-for-dummies...
With none of the current hassles with complexity, payment, logging, shadiness, DNS leaking, etc...
NXT would spread rapidly by word-of-mouth among those 50,000,000 people that matter  :D :D :D

With 1000s of downloads/day for the BEST and FREE consumer product...
The use of the rest of NXT platform (currency, assets, etc) would grow rapidly... and explode in value.
supermesh.io is planning to add VPN functions
i agree that word of mouth is the best form of marketing as it is free and most powerful

however the time for mass market is not quite yet. it is the crypto devs that are needed now and I think most all the devs that actually investigate NXT are giving positive feedbacks.

of course, the so called "devs" that put their agenda over facts will distort this word of mouth, but as NXT tech continues to improve, then there are no worries. When NXT gets mired into months long debates over whether to make a small change or not, that is the time to get worried

Now that Greece has shown what is in store for other fiats when the crisis hits the fan (30% bail-in) then the smart ones (usually wealthier) will start taking countermeasures. Now that I am finishing up the InstantDEX required SuperNET features, my next area to complete are the privacy functions.

less than 100,000 years left.

James
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23630 on: July 07, 2015, 03:22:05 am »

Answer:  anon VPN

If downloading the NXT client gave you instant, one-click, anon-VPN-for-dummies...
With none of the current hassles with complexity, payment, logging, shadiness, DNS leaking, etc...
NXT would spread rapidly by word-of-mouth among those 50,000,000 people that matter  :D :D :D

With 1000s of downloads/day for the BEST and FREE consumer product...
The use of the rest of NXT platform (currency, assets, etc) would grow rapidly... and explode in value.
supermesh.io is planning to add VPN functions
i agree that word of mouth is the best form of marketing as it is free and most powerful

however the time for mass market is not quite yet. it is the crypto devs that are needed now and I think most all the devs that actually investigate NXT are giving positive feedbacks.

of course, the so called "devs" that put their agenda over facts will distort this word of mouth, but as NXT tech continues to improve, then there are no worries. When NXT gets mired into months long debates over whether to make a small change or not, that is the time to get worried

Now that Greece has shown what is in store for other fiats when the crisis hits the fan (30% bail-in) then the smart ones (usually wealthier) will start taking countermeasures. Now that I am finishing up the InstantDEX required SuperNET features, my next area to complete are the privacy functions.

less than 100,000 years left.

James

As James said, SuperMesh.io nodes would be something you'd like to take a look at.
Here's SuperMesh Development task list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ya9fMS0Z0-xSew2rhLcHKbB9y4HVERwk9t-G1W4PzlY
Official Thread: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=9491.0

Cheers,
Satinder
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23631 on: July 07, 2015, 04:58:00 am »

Because you are a long term NXT investor vs. a short term LTC speculator. Be right and sit tight, jumping around can cause severe investment losses.

NXT,When will you wake up, 2020?
NXT appears to have marketing now
up 33% in minutes on btc38
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« Reply #23632 on: July 07, 2015, 05:07:31 am »

Because you are a long term NXT investor vs. a short term LTC speculator. Be right and sit tight, jumping around can cause severe investment losses.

NXT,When will you wake up, 2020?
NXT appears to have marketing now
up 33% in minutes on btc38

3+ million yuan worth of NXT changed hands.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23633 on: July 07, 2015, 05:18:11 am »

let's wear a parachute, this pump is insane
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« Reply #23634 on: July 07, 2015, 05:21:14 am »

Seeing this is always bitter sweet especially when you are intending to pick up more.
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« Reply #23635 on: July 07, 2015, 05:33:00 am »

Because you are a long term NXT investor vs. a short term LTC speculator. Be right and sit tight, jumping around can cause severe investment losses.

NXT,When will you wake up, 2020?
NXT appears to have marketing now
up 33% in minutes on btc38

3+ million yuan worth of NXT changed hands.
i think 3 million+ NXT, as 3 mil CNY -> 30 million NXT

it is all due to the massive marketing campaign started this afternoon
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23636 on: July 07, 2015, 05:33:47 am »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23637 on: July 07, 2015, 05:39:24 am »


Now that I am finishing up the InstantDEX required SuperNET features, my next area to complete are the privacy functions.

Financial privacy = killer app :)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #23638 on: July 07, 2015, 05:46:49 am »

I want to sell this domain name for 100k NXT.

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« Reply #23639 on: July 07, 2015, 05:50:44 am »

Nice to wake up to a volume of over 500 BTC worth in CNY on btc38 and 5th place on CMC!  ;D
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